My In-laws SUCK

[DIRKSWIFE4]

We got informed tonight my inlaws are selling the house. They bought it (no credit here) and we were supposed to make the payments, then when we get moved in they say they are gonna buy it and sell it to us. OK. Well DH and his mom have been arguing over her trying to run our house (telling DH what to waer, where to go, to cut his hair) and shes giving me all kind of grief. So now out of the blue they are putting the house on the market, we've been here nearly 7 years!!!!

[okie]

That sucks big time! Are they atleast waiting until the holidays are over?

[gmyers]

Sounds like if she couldn't control ya'll then you can't live there. Thats terrible!

[mirage7000]

That's aweful! My boyfriends mother is also a control freak. Haven't seen or spoken to her for years. It has taken a toll on our relationship. Don't get to be with him for holidays and even his birthday. She has control over that. Wish you luck!

[hblueeyes]

Check with a lawyer. Some states, Illinois is one, where they MUST offer you the house first. If they sell it without offering it to you first, you may be entitled to damages. Wouldnt that be a nice pay back. I cannot stand crappy people.

Me

[Army-Mom]

I'm sorry this is happening to you and your family..sending hugs and prayers.

[dor1969]

Hopefully it's just talk and they won't really sell the house. If they do put the house up for sale, depending on how the real estate market is in your area, it could take a year or more before it sells. And chances are they are going to lose a ton of money. If I were in your shoes, I would NOT go out of my way to make sure the house looks perfect for showings. hblueeyes offered some great advice...definitely check with a lawyer. I wish you the best of luck!!

[Bahet]

Oh man. I'd be making fish stew and boiled cabbage before every showing and feed the baby some spaghetti when they get there.

[dor1969]

Oh man. I'd be making fish stew and boiled cabbage before every showing and feed the baby some spaghetti when they get there.

Good one!! :rolling :stir

[Shann]

what a truly crappy thing for them to do. I'd actually be surprised if they were able to sell it w/in a few months w/ the way the market is going, but if that's how his mom would want to play, I think I'd be more than happy to find another place where she couldn't hold her finger over us. GL

[JewRican]

I have a great Bacalao (Puerto Rican cod fish served hot or cold) recipe that is guaranteed to stink up the house! It uses a dried salted cod that you have to boil the hell out off. :innocent

[hblueeyes]

I just do not see what benefit it is to them to sell. It may be a way to control. Why not get the classifieds and start out reading them with a pen and coffee and say things like, here dear, this one sounds nice and it is in our price range. I'll make an appointment to see it and if I like it I'll get u to see it.

Maybe she'll change her mind about selling. It sure shut my mom up when she started pulling that, "MY HOUSE" crap. (although my name is on it too). It has been awhile since she said it but hubby recently tapped the phone number of 2 cab companies by the fridge. She asked about it and he told her that she;ll need them when we move. Oh man did she get upset. But we needed to let her know moving for us is no problem. But if we move she will be the one who is in need.

Me

[tracey74]

anyone that does come look at the house tell them whats"wrong" with it and that it tends to be haunted and what not lmao. thats what I would do that way most people wont want it anyway. it will give you time to find something until then hopefully. then Id tell her where to go.JMO

[tigger4]

Knowing where you live they will be hard pressed to sell their house and make a profit. My little brother and Grandmother live not far from you and the housing market there isn't all that great.

I hope they change their minds though.

[DIRKSWIFE4]

what a truly crappy thing for them to do. I'd actually be surprised if they were able to sell it w/in a few months w/ the way the market is going, but if that's how his mom would want to play, I think I'd be more than happy to find another place where she couldn't hold her finger over us. GL

thats what we said, we want to leave now well not really because of packing unpacking etc.... but the thought of her not controling anything is so freeing (sp) we also think it will stop alot of the arguments we have

[DIRKSWIFE4]

I just do not see what benefit it is to them to sell. It may be a way to control. Why not get the classifieds and start out reading them with a pen and coffee and say things like, here dear, this one sounds nice and it is in our price range. I'll make an appointment to see it and if I like it I'll get u to see it.

Maybe she'll change her mind about selling. It sure shut my mom up when she started pulling that, "MY HOUSE" crap. (although my name is on it too). It has been awhile since she said it but hubby recently tapped the phone number of 2 cab companies by the fridge. She asked about it and he told her that she;ll need them when we move. Oh man did she get upset. But we needed to let her know moving for us is no problem. But if we move she will be the one who is in need.

Me


no no she doesnt live here with us, they bought the house they live in Dayton.

[DIRKSWIFE4]

Check with a lawyer. Some states, Illinois is one, where they MUST offer you the house first. If they sell it without offering it to you first, you may be entitled to damages. Wouldnt that be a nice pay back. I cannot stand crappy people.

Me

theyd want such a big down payment we couldnt do it anyway.

[DIRKSWIFE4]

To clarify, they bought the house we were to make payments, then when we moved in we were trying to find out pmts etc.. they THEN inform us no we are buying the house and then selling it to you two. so thats the way its been until last night.........

DH says if they do this hes done with them, they wont know where we live phone # nothing. Then he walked over took their pic off the wall and threw it away.

[ilovecats]

So sorry!I have an estranged SIL(my husbands choice)He wants her to know nothing about us because of some of the things she has done.We have not spoken to her in years.Some of the things she is missing out on;My oldest is in Marine bootcamp,My oldest DD is planning to go to college for forensic pathology,I have A 12 yr old who is A beautiful,wonderful person;I have an almost 3 yr old she never met(I don't even Know if she knows he exists),Her loss!If your MIL is going to be A b$%#@,she loses out!

[hblueeyes]

If you have been living there and paying the mortgage etc., you have a great leg to stand on. I'd see a lawyer, you could see one for free, tell them your situation and they would offer advice. As far as a large down payment, it would not matter if they listed it with a real estate company. Plus I would think you have 7 years invested and can ask how much has been set aside for your down payment. Since they are changing the agreement in mid stream you may be able to get that $$$$ from them. Talk to a broker and lawyer. I bet you will be surprised at what they tell you.

Me

[pepperpot]

If you have been living there and paying the mortgage etc., you have a great leg to stand on. I'd see a lawyer, you could see one for free, tell them your situation and they would offer advice. As far as a large down payment, it would not matter if they listed it with a real estate company. Plus I would think you have 7 years invested and can ask how much has been set aside for your down payment. Since they are changing the agreement in mid stream you may be able to get that $$$$ from them. Talk to a broker and lawyer. I bet you will be surprised at what they tell you.

Me

Not only has she paid the mortgage for seven years with the promise of being able to one day own the house......she never received any interest credit for her taxes (first part of the mortgage is always interest with very low principal payments). The in-laws probably took advantage of the interest credit....wonder if they declared their income (your 'rental payments') on their taxes too? Probably not. They might just have it listed as a second home with no income generated.......IRS does not like that.;)

Hmm...wonder if their mortgage company knew this was a 'rental property'.....they would be entitled to a higher interest rate.....Mortgage companies do not like to lose $$$ from people's fraud......There could possibly be repercussions with the mortgage company.

Also, if you have state taxes, usually a rental property has a higher rate than if it were your residence as well......BTW, that's tax deductible for them as well.

[mosdata1]

Did you get anything from them in writing? Unfortunately, in most states the only verbal contracts that are null are real estate ones. Most states say that all real estate contracts must be written. That being said, if you don't have anything in writing, but have some witnesses to your conversations, that may help you. As a renter/tenant you really don't have many rights to their property.
Did they say if any of your rent payments would go towards a down payment? If so, you could get them for breach of contract & demand that they return the amount that was supposed to go towards that, and have a little extra $$ to put towards your move.
Good luck. As dark as things seem now, just know that unless they are willing to sell the house at a large markdown, it won't move too quickly & you should be able to save some cash to get a better place for your family. Many homeowners are more willing to rent w/option to buy since the market is so slow; some are even willing to hold a mortgage for you - this way they make more interest from you than they could from a bank, and the have the comfort of knowing that they still own the deed on the home - so they can't really lose.

[PrincessArky]

To clarify, they bought the house we were to make payments, then when we moved in we were trying to find out pmts etc.. they THEN inform us no we are buying the house and then selling it to you two. so thats the way its been until last night.........

DH says if they do this hes done with them, they wont know where we live phone # nothing. Then he walked over took their pic off the wall and threw it away.

I am a bit confused but that doesnt take much these days lol so where you guys making payments or not? If not I sure hope you have been able to bank some money over the years and just be done with them. I know a girl here who's mom bought her house free and clear but she is very in control of her, hubby, and the kids so not worth it :(

[maddysmom]

i personally think its all a bunch of bullcrap. shes crazy it hasnt been just since youve been married mom its been since i can remember that she has been crazy lol. everything will be okay

[hblueeyes]

Not only has she paid the mortgage for seven years with the promise of being able to one day own the house......she never received any interest credit for her taxes (first part of the mortgage is always interest with very low principal payments). The in-laws probably took advantage of the interest credit....wonder if they declared their income (your 'rental payments') on their taxes too? Probably not. They might just have it listed as a second home with no income generated.......IRS does not like that.

Hmm...wonder if their mortgage company knew this was a 'rental property'.....they would be entitled to a higher interest rate.....Mortgage companies do not like to lose $$$ from people's fraud......There could possibly be repercussions with the mortgage company.

Also, if you have state taxes, usually a rental property has a higher rate than if it were your residence as well......BTW, that's tax deductible for them as well.


Boy do you have the upper hand here. The IRS will not only make them pay what is owed but also tack on huge penalties and interest and other fees. This could end up costing them tens of thousands of dollars and more.

My Mom pulled that on my Brother and sister. She went to the bank bought their note and had the bank handle all payments and deposit the $$$ into her account. They did it for a $5 fee. Sis caught on a few years before her condo was paid off. My brother found out when he went for a home improvement loan and discovered he did not have a mortgage, he got even by not paying the note any more and told her that she better claim the income because he was claiming the interest and taking the tax break. Then he went and got a mortgage to buy her out but added to the contract that she was then paid in full so he got a free new car plus other borrowed money from it. I told my sis to sue the bank but she would not do it because it may hurt Mom. Piss on Mom she screwed you and had always treated her like an endentured slave. I would not have been so nice.

Why do adult children whose parents treat them worse than nobodys always try to please them? I dont get it. I mean if you dont have their unconditional love by now you never will so why try?

Me

[Chelle66]

cant say I get along with my mil either , but lately she has been earily nice to me,its starting to freak me out LOL

[bears984]

OMG do we have the same inlaws??? Sounds just like mine we finally had to get a PO against them just so they would leave us alone

[okie]

OMG do we have the same inlaws??? Sounds just like mine we finally had to get a PO against them just so they would leave us alone

I don't think that even a PO would keep my inlaws away. I thought about moving out of state! Hell, they'd be vacationing at my home then.

[Bliss]

To clarify, they bought the house we were to make payments, then when we moved in we were trying to find out pmts etc.. they THEN inform us no we are buying the house and then selling it to you two. so thats the way its been until last night.........

DH says if they do this hes done with them, they wont know where we live phone # nothing. Then he walked over took their pic off the wall and threw it away.


Have you made any payments in 7 years to your in-laws? If they were selling it to you, do you have any proof in writing?

I have a hard time understanding your posts.

I, personally would never get involved with family whne it comes to money, property or anything of value. You'll be screwed in the end.

[flute]

cant say I get along with my mil either , but lately she has been earily nice to me,its starting to freak me out LOL

OMG ME TOo! freaked me out so much I missed a church meeting back in june or july when it began!!

I've come to the realization though that with the birth of the 2nd baby she believes I'll stay with her son. I think she was really afraid I'd leave him & break his heart. If it's something else I dont' think I wanna know. My head hurts just thinking what it does......

((((dirkswife4)))) I have no advice but good luck!

[PrincessArky]

Have you made any payments in 7 years to your in-laws?


thats exactly what I tried to figure out lol

[flute]

she paid the mortgage for seven years


did everybody miss this post?
I am assuming here Pepperpot knows the OP IRL.

[Chelle66]

I wish I had advise for you, we were renting to own on a land contract and paid into it for 2 years or so and then we found out we were deposting into her account for her to make the payment and she was spending it and the house was going to get forclosed! Well to make a long story short we got the Heck out of there! I asked an attorney about all of the money we had into it including improvements and he basically said we were sol without having an attorney draw up paperwork :( Now we are doing a land contract for this house but we had an attorney draw up the paperwork on this one, once burned .....

[PrincessArky]

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did everybody miss this post?
I am assuming here Pepperpot knows the OP IRL.

maybe she is just assuming that she paid......I was just wondering because OP never said she did or didnt just hoping that if they haven't that they have been banking some money so they can afford to get out of there

[flute]

Well that could be too.

[pepperpot]

We got informed tonight my inlaws are selling the house. They bought it (no credit here) and we were supposed to make the payments, then when we get moved in they say they are gonna buy it and sell it to us. OK. Well DH and his mom have been arguing over her trying to run our house (telling DH what to waer, where to go, to cut his hair) and shes giving me all kind of grief. So now out of the blue they are putting the house on the market, we've been here nearly 7 years!!!!


PrincessArky[/B]]maybe she is just assuming that she paid......I was just wondering because OP never said she did or didnt just hoping that if they haven't that they have been banking some money so they can afford to get out of there


Well that could be too.

That's it ;), don't know the OP, just assuming, for who would not pay 'rent/mortgage payments' for almost 7 years and be surprised when their 'landlord' tells them they must leave?

If they haven't paid for seven years.....then they are way overdue to be put to the curb....

[hblueeyes]

I assumed they did pay since they also paid the taxes while the in-laws took the deduction more than likely without claiming the rent as income. This is where the tenants have the upper hand. It may not be in writing which is required for real estate transactions but they would have proof of paying the taxes and proof that they did not take the deduction. If inlaws were taking the deduction and not claiming the rent as income (capital gains) then they not only owe back taxes but also fees,penalities and fines and interest to the IRS which after 7 years would be quite substantial. I bet in laws write a contract with them for full credit before getting involved with the IRS in such an obvious act of fraud.

Me

[PrincessArky]

I assumed they did pay since they also paid the taxes while the in-laws took the deduction more than likely without claiming the rent as income. This is where the tenants have the upper hand. It may not be in writing which is required for real estate transactions but they would have proof of paying the taxes and proof that they did not take the deduction. If inlaws were taking the deduction and not claiming the rent as income (capital gains) then they not only owe back taxes but also fees,penalities and fines and interest to the IRS which after 7 years would be quite substantial. I bet in laws write a contract with them for full credit before getting involved with the IRS in such an obvious act of fraud.

Me



I guess I missed where the op posted that they paid the taxes.......god my eyes must be going......its only Monday and already a long week lol

[Bliss]

That's it ;), don't know the OP, just assuming, for who would not pay 'rent/mortgage payments' for almost 7 years and be surprised when their 'landlord' tells them they must leave?

If they haven't paid for seven years.....then they are way overdue to be put to the curb....

I'm sure there are a whole lotta people who would sponge off their relatives and then be pissed when the relative desides to sell.

I got the impression the OP hasn't paid anything at all - since the in-laaw is telling the ops husband what to do.. If it's true, I can totally understand why the in-law is selling. There comes a time when people need to do for themselves and not expect a free ride...If that is the case.

[DIRKSWIFE4]

I'm sure there are a whole lotta people who would sponge off their relatives and then be pissed when the relative desides to sell.

I got the impression the OP hasn't paid anything at all - since the in-laaw is telling the ops husband what to do.. If it's true, I can totally understand why the in-law is selling. There comes a time when people need to do for themselves and not expect a free ride...If that is the case.

we havent sponged shit off them, when we moved here it was stated WE (me and DH ) would make the payments, then when the first payment was coming around in-laws tell us and I quote, :" WE are going to buy the house and sell it to you" You live here for upkeep, and believe me its NOT been cheap, we had a mold problem and had to re-do the WHOLE batheroom tearing out walls to the frame work, then we put in all new carpet, tile, ceiling fans etc... DH put on nearly a whole roof because of leaking.We have put ALOT of money in this place house and yard too. We have paid to live here. We havent sponged NOTHING. I know WHY they did it the way they did. DH has been married 3 other times, they wanted to leave the house to him in their WILL so I couldnt touch it. Now that DH wont listen to his mom (hes growing his hair out, shes having a cow) all hell is breaking loose, we dont appreciate anything etc.... She doing basically the same BS to DD (DH daughter/ their granddaughter) We pay all utilities. THEY changed the deal AFTER we moved in, so we thought we were going to buy the house from them, that is exact words. Its a way to control us, and since DH wont let her anymore I guess the deal is off.

AS for the remark about sponging, not taking responsibility, that pisses me off, we have put so much money in this house and the yard (landscaping etc) weve taken care of anything thats gone wrong with the house (like when the central air thingy in the backyard got hit by lightening that wasnt free to replace) We were under the impression we were going to buy the house from them.

[PrincessArky]

we havent sponged shit off them, when we moved here it was stated WE (me and DH ) would make the payments, then when the first payment was coming around in-laws tell us and I quote, :" WE are going to buy the house and sell it to you" You live here for upkeep, and believe me its NOT been cheap, we had a mold problem and had to re-do the WHOLE batheroom tearing out walls to the frame work, then we put in all new carpet, tile, ceiling fans etc... DH put on nearly a whole roof because of leaking.We have put ALOT of money in this place house and yard too. We have paid to live here. We havent sponged NOTHING. I know WHY they did it the way they did. DH has been married 3 other times, they wanted to leave the house to him in their WILL so I couldnt touch it. Now that DH wont listen to his mom (hes growing his hair out, shes having a cow) all hell is breaking loose, we dont appreciate anything etc.... She doing basically the same BS to DD (DH daughter/ their granddaughter) We pay all utilities. THEY changed the deal AFTER we moved in, so we thought we were going to buy the house from them, that is exact words. Its a way to control us, and since DH wont let her anymore I guess the deal is off.

AS for the remark about sponging, not taking responsibility, that pisses me off, we have put so much money in this house and the yard (landscaping etc) weve taken care of anything thats gone wrong with the house (like when the central air thingy in the backyard got hit by lightening that wasnt free to replace) We were under the impression we were going to buy the house from them.

Holy crap girl sounds like such a mess between you guys and the in laws :( I sure hope that you are able to either work something out with them or better yet get them out of your lives completely.....who knows maybe they are the reason you hubby was married so many times before......I know if I had to live near my MIL hubby and I would have never even gotten married lol There have been many times that my MIL has offered to help us with them and I said no thank you cause I learned a long time ago it comes with strings :(

[earnhardt1]

good luck........ glad i have a great mil

[PrincessArky]

good luck........ glad i have a great mil

mine is great too........as long as she is 9000 miles away lol

[Bliss]

we havent sponged shit off them, when we moved here it was stated WE (me and DH ) would make the payments, then when the first payment was coming around in-laws tell us and I quote, :" WE are going to buy the house and sell it to you" You live here for upkeep, and believe me its NOT been cheap, we had a mold problem and had to re-do the WHOLE batheroom tearing out walls to the frame work, then we put in all new carpet, tile, ceiling fans etc... DH put on nearly a whole roof because of leaking.We have put ALOT of money in this place house and yard too. We have paid to live here. We havent sponged NOTHING. I know WHY they did it the way they did. DH has been married 3 other times, they wanted to leave the house to him in their WILL so I couldnt touch it. Now that DH wont listen to his mom (hes growing his hair out, shes having a cow) all hell is breaking loose, we dont appreciate anything etc.... She doing basically the same BS to DD (DH daughter/ their granddaughter) We pay all utilities. THEY changed the deal AFTER we moved in, so we thought we were going to buy the house from them, that is exact words. Its a way to control us, and since DH wont let her anymore I guess the deal is off.

AS for the remark about sponging, not taking responsibility, that pisses me off, we have put so much money in this house and the yard (landscaping etc) weve taken care of anything thats gone wrong with the house (like when the central air thingy in the backyard got hit by lightening that wasnt free to replace) We were under the impression we were going to buy the house from them.

I didn't say "You" were sponging off your MIL. I said, "I'm sure there are a whole lotta people who would sponge off their relatives and then be pissed when the relative desides to sell." I didn't say, "Dirkswife was sponging off the MIL."

Granted you put money into the house for repairs and such. It really doesn't matter in the end, unless you have everything in writting; bills, receipts, & etc. It's your word against the MIL. While in your thoughts you've paid since you paid for repairs it still doesn't replace the rent or mortgage for the past 7 years. I'm sorry your MIL is putting your family through this mess over something stupid. Stupid shit is what causes families to hold grudges and act like assholes.

[cinnamonch]

we havent sponged shit off them, when we moved here it was stated WE (me and DH ) would make the payments, then when the first payment was coming around in-laws tell us and I quote, :" WE are going to buy the house and sell it to you" You live here for upkeep, and believe me its NOT been cheap, we had a mold problem and had to re-do the WHOLE batheroom tearing out walls to the frame work, then we put in all new carpet, tile, ceiling fans etc... DH put on nearly a whole roof because of leaking.We have put ALOT of money in this place house and yard too. We have paid to live here. We havent sponged NOTHING. I know WHY they did it the way they did. DH has been married 3 other times, they wanted to leave the house to him in their WILL so I couldnt touch it. Now that DH wont listen to his mom (hes growing his hair out, shes having a cow) all hell is breaking loose, we dont appreciate anything etc.... She doing basically the same BS to DD (DH daughter/ their granddaughter) We pay all utilities. THEY changed the deal AFTER we moved in, so we thought we were going to buy the house from them, that is exact words. Its a way to control us, and since DH wont let her anymore I guess the deal is off.

AS for the remark about sponging, not taking responsibility, that pisses me off, we have put so much money in this house and the yard (landscaping etc) weve taken care of anything thats gone wrong with the house (like when the central air thingy in the backyard got hit by lightening that wasnt free to replace) We were under the impression we were going to buy the house from them.

Do you have receipts for all this? If so, I would look into filing a lean against the property for the amount of these items. This means, they can't sell the house until they settle up with you. This would at least give you the money to get your own place

[mosdata1]

One good thing - since you didn't have a 'rental' agreement, then they can't evict you for non-payment. Stop paying for major repairs, and save your $$. This way you should be able to afford to put a down payment on your own place. Sorry your in-laws are being pains, but I'm sure that things will work for the best for all of you. This is actually a pretty good time to be a buyer - you should be able to find a good deal out there.
Good luck!

[maddysmom]

i dont kow maybe if everyone new the whole story about dirkswife4 MIL they would understand a whole lot more. considering the fact that her MIL is my grandmother and i see what she is doing to our family and ive been around it my whole life. They woman is cuckoo for coco puffs okay literally. seh is trying to do the same things to me as she did to my dad as far as trying to tell me how to live my life cut my hair what to wear, etc. she has even went as far as threating me if i didnt tell her things that go on at my parent shouse since my dad isnt speaking o her. now tell me that doesnt sound a little bit freaking crazy to you????? to threating her 6 month pregnant granddaughter. my parent s have put up with alot of shit over the past 7 years. and i remember when the house was bought and the agreements were suppossed to be made. my grandparents went back on there word it has nothing to do with my parents not paying for 7 years it has to do with the fact that my grandma is a psycho looney nut and tries to control everyones lives and when she doesnt get her way she'll hit you where it hurts the most even if it means throwing you outta your house. my parents never sponged shit off of anyone they have always worked for everything that they have and that we have had growing up and for someone to say that not even knowing my parents or anything just by what a post said is ridiculous you should ask the person before making accusations about them or there situation.

[4maxnrob]

MY MIL IS WONDERFUL!!!! I dont care what anyone else says about theirs but mine does not suck!! She is so loving and all she ever wants from me is for me to be there with her....Its too close to my hubby coming home for me to go live over there with her, but believe me if I have to next year I will be there. My MIL is so wonderful to me, I dont know what I would do without her...I mean I know I can call and ask her for a favor, I know if I needed something for my son or husband or even myself she would jump up in a heartbeat for me....IDK maybe I am living one of those dreams that just doesnt seem real until you fall off the bed and realize but my MIL is just wonderful to me and I love her for that...

[hblueeyes]

4maxnrob, you are very fortunate to have a MIL like yours and that you feel about ther the way you do. My MIL was a piece of work and so is my mother. I would not give you 2 cents for either one. Since my mom moved in, I have seen how she is crazy, cranky, self serving and absorbed, selfish and demanding and how she treats those around her and I must say, my MIL was better than her. But that is not saying much.

As for maddysmom grandparents they will get theirs either thru the IRS or another way because I believe in Karma. Your parents will find a nice place and then they will be on the outside looking in.

Me

[SLance68]

DirksWife - you can take the receipts for the stuff and try to claim a lien on the house - but it will be thrown out in court. There are time limits on filing a mechanics lien. You have lived in a house for 7 years rent free - yes you made repairs - if you did not get reimbursed by the home owner then that is your fault. They can counter for the 7 years of rent that was not paid and probably get that so just don't waste your time on that - let it go.

So I would just look for a place to live that was away from that nut (your MIL). She sounds like a control freak out of control. Even if it costs you more to rent a place it will be worth the money to be rid of her.

[hblueeyes]

They can counter for the 7 years of rent that was not paid and probably get that

I doubt it. Since they have nothing in writing the in laws would be out of luck for no rent as well as long as they allowed it to go on. No lease means a month to month tenancy. Either party can give 30 days notice. Since the in laws never filed for a non payment eviction then they are out of luck. Here thought the tenants paid the taxes, insurance and all repairs. Since paying for repairs, taxes homeowners insurance etc. is not customary for tenants who rent, an argument could be made they they were buying from the in laws. The in laws would also find themselves in a mess when they claimed the taxes paid yet not the interest on the loan.

Me

[tigger4]

In the state of Ohio, the laws are bent in favor of the owner/landlord big time. If you are a renter you are pretty much screwed. I have fought several landlords in Ohio and even had fair housing helping me fight them because I was in the right. The fair housing lawyers represented me in court because I was right and the judge still ruled in favor of the landlord. These landlords broke numerous state and city laws and the judge didn't care.

So, I wouldn't count on the courts helping you much if you are a renter in Ohio.