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Explorer 4x4'r
10-05-2007, 06:40 AM
Oct. 4, 2007, 10:42PM
Verdict over illegal downloads is a costly one
Jury says Minnesota woman must pay $222,000 to six recording companies

By JOSHUA FREED
Associated Press


DULUTH, MINN. — The recording industry won a key fight Thursday against illegal downloading when a federal jury said a Minnesota woman must pay $222,000 for sharing copyrighted music online.

The jury ordered Jammie Thomas, 30, to pay the six record companies that sued her $9,250 for each of 24 songs they focused on. They had alleged she shared 1,702 songs online in violation of their copyrights.

"She was in tears. She's devastated," Thomas' attorney, Brian Toder, said. "This is a girl that lives from paycheck to paycheck, and now all of a sudden she could get a quarter of her paycheck garnished for the rest of her life."

Richard Gabriel, attorney for the companies, said, "This does send a message, I hope, that downloading and distributing our recordings is not OK."

He said no decision had yet been made about what the record companies would do, if anything, to pursue collecting the money from Thomas.

Toder said the plaintiff's attorney fees are automatically awarded in such judgments under copyright law, meaning Thomas could owe as much as a half-million dollars. However, he said he suspected the companies "will probably be people we can deal with."

Jurors didn't comment.

No Kazaa account, she says
In the first such lawsuit to go to trial, the record companies accused Thomas of downloading the songs without permission and offering them online through a Kazaa file-sharing account. Thomas denied wrongdoing and testified that she didn't have a Kazaa account.

Record companies have filed some 26,000 lawsuits since 2003 over file-sharing, which has hurt sales because it allows people to get music for free instead of paying for recordings in stores. Many other defendants have settled by paying the companies a few thousand dollars.

The Recording Industry Association of America says the lawsuits have mitigated illegal sharing, even though music file-sharing is rising overall. The group says the number of households that have used file-sharing programs to download music has risen from 6.9 million monthly in April 2003, before the lawsuits began, to 7.8 million in March 2007.

During the three-day trial, the record companies presented evidence they said showed the copyrighted songs were offered by a Kazaa user under the name "tereastarr." Their witnesses, including officials from an Internet provider and a security firm, testified that the Internet address used by "tereastarr" belonged to Thomas.

'We don't know'
Toder said in his closing that the companies never proved "Jammie Thomas, a human being, got on her keyboard and sent out these things."

"We don't know what happened," Toder told jurors.

Copyright law sets a damage range of $750 to $30,000 per infringement, or up to $150,000 if the violation was "willful." Jurors ruled that Thomas' infringement was willful but awarded damages of $9,250 per song; Gabriel said they did not explain to attorneys how they reached that amount.

Thomas works for the Mille Lacs Band of Ojibwe's Department of Natural Resources.

There have been no claims that Thomas' two children, ages 11 and 13, were involved in sharing music.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/04/national/main3330186.shtml
AP) The recording industry won a key fight Thursday against illegal music downloading when a federal jury found a Minnesota woman shared copyrighted music online and levied $222,000 in damages against her.

Jurors ordered Jammie Thomas, 30, to pay the six record companies that sued her $9,250 for each of 24 songs they focused on in the case. They had alleged she shared 1,702 songs online in violation of their copyrights.

Thomas and her attorney, Brian Toder, declined comment as they left the courthouse. Jurors also left without commenting.

"This does send a message, I hope, that downloading and distributing our recordings is not OK," said Richard Gabriel, the lead attorney for the music companies.

In the first such lawsuit to go to trial, six record companies accused Thomas of downloading the songs without permission and offering them online through a Kazaa file-sharing account. Thomas denied wrongdoing and testified that she didn't have a Kazaa account.

Record companies have filed some 26,000 lawsuits since 2003 over file-sharing, which has hurt sales because it allows people to get music for free instead of paying for recordings in stores. Many other defendants have settled by paying the companies a few thousand dollars.

We think we're in for a long haul in terms of establishing that music has value, that music is property, and that property has to be respected.
Cathy Sherman, RIAA President
The RIAA says the lawsuits have mitigated illegal sharing, even though music file-sharing is rising overall. The group says the number of households that have used file-sharing programs to download music has risen from 6.9 million monthly in April 2003, before the lawsuits began, to 7.8 million in March 2007.

During the three-day trial, record companies presented evidence they said showed the copyrighted songs were offered by a Kazaa user under the name "tereastarr." Their witnesses, including officials from an Internet provider and a security firm, testified that the Internet address used by "tereastarr" belonged to Thomas.

Toder had argued at closing that record companies never proved that "Jammie Thomas, a human being, got on her keyboard and sent out these things."

"We don't know what happened," Toder told jurors. "All we know is that Jammie Thomas didn't do this."

Gabriel called that defense "misdirection, red herrings, smoke and mirrors."

He told jurors a verdict against Thomas would send a message to other illegal downloaders.

"I only ask that you consider that the need for deterrence here is great," he said.

Copyright law sets a damage range of $750 to $30,000 per infringement, or up to $150,000 if the violation was "willful." Jurors ruled that Thomas' infringement was willful, but awarded damages in a middle range.

Before the verdict, an official with an industry trade group said he was surprised it had taken so long for one of the industry's lawsuits against individual downloaders to come to trial.

Illegal downloads have "become business as usual, nobody really thinks about it," said Cary Sherman, president of the Recording Industry Association of America, which coordinates the lawsuits. "This case has put it back in the news. Win or lose, people will understand that we are out there trying to protect our rights."

Thomas' testimony was complicated by the fact that she had replaced her computer's hard drive after the sharing was alleged to have taken place - and later than she said in a deposition before trial.

The hard drive in question was not presented at trial by either party, though Thomas used her new one to show the jury how fast it copies songs from CDs. That was an effort to counter an industry witness's assertion that the songs on the old drive got their too fast to have come from CDs she owned - and therefore must have been downloaded illegally.

Record companies said Thomas was sent an instant message in February 2005, warning her that she was violating copyright law. Her hard drive was replaced the following month, not in 2004, as she said in the deposition.

The record companies involved in the lawsuit are Sony BMG, Arista Records LLC, Interscope Records, UMG Recordings Inc., Capitol Records Inc. and Warner Bros. Records Inc.

Jolie Rouge
10-05-2007, 02:56 PM
Woman to pay downloading award herself
By JOSHUA FREED, AP Business Writer
1 hour, 1 minute ago

MINNEAPOLIS - Jammie Thomas makes $36,000 a year but says she's not looking for a handout to pay a $222,000 judgment after a jury decided she illegally shared music online and did it on purpose.

"I'm not going to ask for financial help," she told The Associated Press on Friday. But she added, "If it comes, I'm not going to turn it down, either."

Record labels have sued more than 26,000 people they accuse of sharing music online in violation of copyright laws.

Thomas was the first person to fight back all the way to a trial. Six major record companies accused Thomas of offering 1,702 songs on the Kazaa file-sharing network. The trial focused on 24 songs. On Thursday, jurors decided Thomas willfully violated the copyright on all 24 and recommended she pay damages of $9,250 per song, or $222,000.

Thomas has denied that the Kazaa account was hers.

She said people have been leaving messages on her MySpace page offering to help.

"I guess it's my Native pride," said Thomas, who is a member of the Mille Lacs Band of Ojibwe. "Up until this point I have not held my hand out and asked for financial assistance from anyone."

Thomas, 30, works for the Mille Lacs band coordinating a federal grant for cleaning up contaminated land. She said she doesn't have the means to pay.

"I am a single mother of two boys. I make $36,000 a year at my job," she said. "At best they could try and get a court order garnishing my wages."

Her attorney, Brian Toder, said that copyright law automatically awards court costs and attorney fees to the winning party. Paying those too could push the total judgment against Thomas as high as a half-million dollars.

The lawsuits were brought by individual record companies and coordinated by the Recording Industry Association of America, where spokeswoman Cara Duckworth declined to comment on the group's plans for enforcing the judgment.

Thomas questioned whether the record companies will be able to enforce the verdict because she is an enrolled member of the Mille Lacs band, lives on its land and works for the band.

But Kevin Washburn, who teaches American Indian Law as a visiting associate professor at Harvard Law School, said tribal courts generally enforce judgments from other courts. And since this is a federal verdict, the tribal courts might not even have a say in enforcing the verdict. "One way or another she's got to pay," he said.

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I know there was a thread discussing this case when it was preparing to go to trail ... maybe a year ago ... lost in the ether, I guess

ahippiechic
10-05-2007, 03:42 PM
This had already been posted, so I merged the 2 posts into 1 thread.........

Jolie Rouge
10-05-2007, 08:28 PM
This had already been posted, so I merged the 2 posts into 1 thread.........

Thank you - I didn't see Explorer's post until after I had submitted mine.

( Explorer - ya' scooped me again !! )

Jolie Rouge
10-15-2007, 09:07 PM
Judge asked to reconsider $222,000 award
Mon Oct 15, 6:33 PM ET

INNEAPOLIS - A woman facing a $222,000 music-sharing verdict asked a judge on Monday to overturn it.

Jurors in a case that six record companies brought against Thomas found she violated the companies' copyrights by offering 24 songs over the Kazaa file-sharing network. They ordered Thomas, a mother of two who makes $36,000 a year, to pay the companies $222,000.

Thomas's attorney, Brian Toder, did not argue in a motion filed Monday on Thomas's behalf that she hadn't violated the copyrights. But he said that, because the songs could have been purchased online for about $24, the $222,000 verdict is disproportionate and amounts to punitive damages.

Toder asked for a new trial to determine damages or for a finding that the $222,000 verdict is unconstitutional.

Copyright law allows damages of $750 to $150,000 per song; the jury awarded the record companies $9,250 per song. Toder argued they suffered actual damages of less than $151.20 in all.

About 26,000 similar lawsuits have been filed by music companies against individuals. They have been coordinated by the Recording Industry Association of America, which issued a statement Monday.

"We seek to resolve this case in a fair and reasonable manner," the industry group said. "It is unfortunate that the defendant continues to avoid responsibility for her actions. We will continue to defend our rights."

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