This is so true !!!!!!!!!!!! about illegal immigration.....

[starduster31]

hi, all, i got this in my email earlier today. i think it is so true !!!!!!!!

Dear President Bush:
I'm about to plan a little trip with my family and extended family, and I would like to ask you to assist me. I'm going to walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico, and I need to make a few arrangements. I know you can help with this.
I plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws. I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here.
So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Vicente Fox, that I'm on my way over? Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:
1. Free medical care for my entire family.
2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.
3. All government forms need to be printed in English.
4. I want my kids to be taught by English-speaking teachers.
5. Schools need to include classes on American culture and history.
6. I want my kids to see the American flag flying on the top of the flag pole at their school with the Mexican flag flying lower down.
7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch.
8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.
9. I do not plan to have any car insurance, and I won't make any effort to learn local traffic laws.
10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from Pres. Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that all police officers speak English.
11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.
12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, and don’t enforce any labor laws or tax laws.
13. Please tell all the people in the country to be extremely nice and never say a critical word about me, or about the strain I might place on the economy.
I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all the people who come to the U.S. from Mexico. I am sure that Pres. Fox won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.
However, if he gives you any trouble, just invite him to go quail hunting with your V.P.
Thank you so much for your kind help.

[IthinkNOT!]

rotflmao!!

[vicky122]

What hog wash. Wow to think of all the Americans that go over to get thier stuff cheap to bring back to the USA.

[starduster31]

you are only allowed to bring back so much, you cant haul it back by the truck load. i know this because my uncle had a gift store and he would go get Mexican pottery and stuff like that, and he was allowed only so many of each item, like 4 or 5. thats not making a lot of dough !

[vicky122]

He must of done ok if he would keep going back. And then I wonder how much of a mark he did when he sold it.

[IthinkNOT!]

Strange, what has buying stuff in mexico and bringing it back to the united states have to do with illegal immigration????

[vicky122]

Because they way people are always making jokes about Mexicans but yet they sure like going into Mexico for cheap stuff.

[IthinkNOT!]

We can legally go to mexico and buy merchandise, and bring it back and do whatever we choose to do with it. It's not like we go over there and steal there stuff. And no one is cracking a joke about the mexicans, they are stating fact. Mexicans can illegaly come to this country and do whatever they choose. I think it is time to put a stop to it. If they want to be here so bad then they need to do it legally!

[lizmolik]

:rolling That is so true, that is so true. Thanks for sharing!

[ahippiechic]

Great post, thanx!

[vicky122]

We can legally go to mexico and buy merchandise, and bring it back and do whatever we choose to do with it. It's not like we go over there and steal there stuff. And no one is cracking a joke about the mexicans, they are stating fact. Mexicans can illegaly come to this country and do whatever they choose. I think it is time to put a stop to it. If they want to be here so bad then they need to do it legally!

If that stuff would be fact then ok but it is not and Mexicans are not over here demading that everything get handed to them. But the American people do they want everything handed to them plus a medical card free housing. Free lunch program stamps.
Check out Mexico they don't get nothing handed to them they work for it and try to better thier life unlike a lot of Americans who also think nothing about selling drugs or stealing.
Thats how I fell about. I sure this will get some of you all going. Because after all isn't this place so much better then the other place where here we can feel like we feel and everyone acts like adults. But I am bored so bring it on. I am Mexican and so very proud of it!!!!!!:dancing:

[IthinkNOT!]

If that stuff would be fact then ok but it is not and Mexicans are not over here demading they are handed anything. But the Americanpeople do they want everything handed to them plus a medical card free housing. Free lunch program stamps.
Check out Mexico they don't get nothing handed to them they work for it and try to better thier life unlike a lot of Americans who also think nothing about selling drugs or stealing.
Thats how I fell about. I sure this will get some of you all going. Because after all isn't this place so much better then the other place where here we can feel like we feel and everyone acts like adults. But I am bored so bring it on. I am Mexican and so very proud of it!!!!!!:dancing:

They are here illegally! That should be enough said. There is nothing wrong with someone from another country coming here and wanting to better there life, thats how america started out. But why can't they do it legally? And if they want to be here so bad, then why not learn our language and be able to speak to us? Why come here and expect us to press 2 for english? I compare it to someone breaking into my home, they break into my home and expect me to learn their language, and expect me not to say anything because they are just trying to better themselves? Right, wonder what would happen if I tried this, my neibor (sp) has a nicer home than me, think I'll go next door and break into his home, and when the police get here, I'll just tell them well I wanted a better life, wonder what they would do to me?

[ahippiechic]

No one cares if you are Mexican or not. Unless you're illegal, then you can the frick back.

Ithinknot, you might want to save your breath, she just likes to ignore any and all constructrive debate about the issue and post things that have nothing to do with other's post. Guess it's time to put her back on ignore.

[vicky122]

No one cares if you are Mexican or not. Unless you're illegal, then you can the frick back.

Ithinknot, you might want to save your breath, she just likes to ignore any and all constructrive debate about the issue and post things that have nothing to do with other's post. Guess it's time to put her back on ignore.

Oh man put me on ignore. Wow not sure if I will sleep tonight. How is it a debate if I have to agree with what you say? Opps forgot this place is better then the other place huh. lol

[vicky122]

They are here illegally! That should be enough said. There is nothing wrong with someone from another country coming here and wanting to better there life, thats how america started out. But why can't they do it legally? And if they want to be here so bad, then why not learn our language and be able to speak to us? Why come here and expect us to press 2 for english? I compare it to someone breaking into my home, they break into my home and expect me to learn their language, and expect me not to say anything because they are just trying to better themselves? Right, wonder what would happen if I tried this, my neibor (sp) has a nicer home than me, think I'll go next door and break into his home, and when the police get here, I'll just tell them well I wanted a better life, wonder what they would do to me?

Oh boy here we go with breaking in again. Mexicans don't go into any company and say put things in Spanish or call up companies and say your phones need to be in Spanish. A company does that for business plain and simple they want to sell a product and they will do what it takes. How is that the Mexicans fault? Why not call up the companies and say you lost my business unless you go back to all English. Blame it on the company that does it.

[IthinkNOT!]

Oh man put me on ignore. Wow not sure if I will sleep tonight. How is it a debate if I have to agree with what you say? Opps forgot this place is better then the other place huh. lol

your maturity is showing!

[vicky122]

your maturity is showing!

As your is.

[boopster]

Thank you starduster! It brings to light what is happening in this country but it is not only those from mexico that come here illegal. This country does not treat it's citizens fairly and one example is the medical system. An example of this was in our newspapers a few months ago regarding 2 people who had spent time in a hospital. One man, a US citizen could not afford medical insurance and had a diabetic episode where he spent 4 days in the hospital and left the hospital with a bill for $10,000 yep 10 THOUSAND dollars :( The second man was here illegally, got drunk and rolled into a bonfire. His injuries were severe and he might end up losing his leg. His stay in the hospital will be extended beyond the 4 days that the US citizen spent in a hospital and include more extensive medical expertise, services etc. His medical bill will be $0.00 Yep that's ZERO. This is just one aspect that should concern all legals in this country. Just think one day you might have a medical need and you might have to do without it because you lack the resources but if you were here illegally, you would be able to get these services at no cost.

[vicky122]

Thank you starduster! It brings to light what is happening in this country but it is not only those from mexico that come here illegal. This country does not treat it's citizens fairly and one example is the medical system. An example of this was in our newspapers a few months ago regarding 2 people who had spent time in a hospital. One man, a US citizen could not afford medical insurance and had a diabetic episode where he spent 4 days in the hospital and left the hospital with a bill for $10,000 yep 10 THOUSAND dollars :( The second man was here illegally, got drunk and rolled into a bonfire. His injuries were severe and he might end up losing his leg. His stay in the hospital will be extended beyond the 4 days that the US citizen spent in a hospital and include more extensive medical expertise, services etc. His medical bill will be $0.00 Yep that's ZERO. This is just one aspect that should concern all legals in this country. Just think one day you might have a medical need and you might have to do without it because you lack the resources but if you were here illegally, you would be able to get these services at no cost.
How did he get service at no cost? Is there a story on it?
But you are right about it not being just Mexicans but that mostly all they post about.

[ahippiechic]

your maturity is showing!

LMAO< I can see that since you quoted it! :D

And no, everyone doesn't have to agree, but it's hard to debate when someone calls everyone else liars etc and is purposely obtuse, ignoring information not just from us, but from the news services as well. She says she doesn't see any of it, implying that because she doesn't personally see it, it doesn't exist.

It is very hard to hold a debate with posts like that to work with.

[freeby4me]

LMAO< I can see that since you quoted it! :D

And no, everyone doesn't have to agree, but it's hard to debate when someone calls everyone else liars etc and is purposely obtuse, ignoring information not just from us, but from the news services as well. She says she doesn't see any of it, implying that because she doesn't personally see it, it doesn't exist.

It is very hard to hold a debate with posts like that to work with.


I agree with you. Vicky, it seems there is no point in debating or argueing with you. Your mind is made up, no changing it, with that being said, DONT TRY AND CHANGE OURS. Thanx.

[vicky122]

LMAO< I can see that since you quoted it! :D

And no, everyone doesn't have to agree, but it's hard to debate when someone calls everyone else liars etc and is purposely obtuse, ignoring information not just from us, but from the news services as well. She says she doesn't see any of it, implying that because she doesn't personally see it, it doesn't exist.

It is very hard to hold a debate with posts like that to work with.

So as I said I don't agree with everything that is said. And your problem is what???? And I thought you was putting me on your ignore list. Did you forget to hit that button. Or do you enjoy this as much as me/ lol

[IthinkNOT!]

:amen
LMAO< I can see that since you quoted it! :D

And no, everyone doesn't have to agree, but it's hard to debate when someone calls everyone else liars etc and is purposely obtuse, ignoring information not just from us, but from the news services as well. She says she doesn't see any of it, implying that because she doesn't personally see it, it doesn't exist.

It is very hard to hold a debate with posts like that to work with.

[vicky122]

I agree with you. Vicky, it seems there is no point in debating or argueing with you. Your mind is made up, no changing it, with that being said, DONT TRY AND CHANGE OURS. Thanx.

How am I trying to change your mind? Where in my post said I am upset you don't think like me? You guys are the ones upset that you can't change my mind. I don't care how you feel. But I will say what I think about it. And oh well if you guys don't like it.

[okie]

If that stuff would be fact then ok but it is not and Mexicans are not over here demading they are handed anything. But the Americanpeople do they want everything handed to them plus a medical card free housing. Free lunch program stamps.
Check out Mexico they don't get nothing handed to them they work for it and try to better thier life unlike a lot of Americans who also think nothing about selling drugs or stealing.
Thats how I fell about. I sure this will get some of you all going. Because after all isn't this place so much better then the other place where here we can feel like we feel and everyone acts like adults. But I am bored so bring it on. I am Mexican and so very proud of it!!!!!!:dancing:

First of all, anyone who is here in this country illegally should not be getting any help at all from our government. What is sad is that someone who barely makes minimum wage can't get any assistance but damn if our government doesn't give out as much as they can to some damn illegal person. Thank God our Governor is putting a stop to all government funds going to any illegal person in Oklahoma. So vicky if you are here illegally don't bother coming here because you won't get jack! The government needs to start loading them all up at these rallies they attend and give them a ride back to Mexico. Or better yet, send them to Iraq!

[IthinkNOT!]

:yeah ITA!!!!



First of all, anyone who is here in this country illegally should not be getting any help at all from our government. What is sad is that someone who barely makes minimum wage can't get any assistance but damn if our government doesn't give out as much as they can to some damn illegal person. Thank God our Governor is putting a stop to all government funds going to any illegal person in Oklahoma. So vicky if you are here illegally don't bother coming here because you won't get jack! The government needs to start loading them all up at these rallies they attend and give them a ride back to Mexico. Or better yet, send them to Iraq!

[freeby4me]

How am I trying to change your mind? Where in my post said I am upset you don't think like me? You guys are the ones upset that you can't change my mind. I don't care how you feel. But I will say what I think about it. And oh well if you guys don't like it.

How nice. Im done, I wont be back in this thread again, I dont feel like having my every post being attacked. If I wanted that, I'd just go stir up something with DtroitPunk.

[vicky122]

First of all, anyone who is here in this country illegally should not be getting any help at all from our government. What is sad is that someone who barely makes minimum wage can't get any assistance but damn if our government doesn't give out as much as they can to some damn illegal person. Thank God our Governor is putting a stop to all government funds going to any illegal person in Oklahoma. So vicky if you are here illegally don't bother coming here because you won't get jack! The government needs to start loading them all up at these rallies they attend and give them a ride back to Mexico. Or better yet, send them to Iraq!

Wow maybe they should come here because all them Americans that can't get anything sure can come to Il. and get it.

[vicky122]

I agree with you. Vicky, it seems there is no point in debating or argueing with you. Your mind is made up, no changing it, with that being said, DONT TRY AND CHANGE OURS. Thanx.

Excuse me but did't you address this to me? Looks like my name. So now your every post is being attacked??? OMG

[IthinkNOT!]

How nice. Im done, I wont be back in this thread again, I dont feel like having my every post being attacked. If I wanted that, I'd just go stir up something with DtroitPunk.


speaking of dtroitpunk, where is he? I think we could match those 2 together and sit back with some popcorn.........

[boopster]

How did he get service at no cost? Is there a story on it?
But you are right about it not being just Mexicans but that mostly all they post about.

It was in the jounal news (westchester county, NY) and I can't find a way to get any back articles. The US citizen had been in White Plains Hospital and the illegal was in Westchester Medical Center.

As far as free services it is a known fact that public hospitals have to take care of anyone who comes into their hospital regardless of their ability to pay. If a person is here illegally, they have no proof that they work or own anything and therefore they can not be charged. I have personally seen people register at the hospital and when asked if they had insurance, the person shrugged. The hospital worker continued to ask questions and many times received shrugs as answers. It was almost comical at one point when the employee asked for a phone number and the person shook their head meaning that they did not have a phone.......and then their cell phone rang. The hospital employee finally gave up and filled out the forms and let the person continue on to get their needs taken care of. Then it was my turn. All the forms got filled out and then I was pointed toward the cashier so that I could pay my co-pay. Sad commentary.

[vicky122]

***As far as free services it is a known fact that public hospitals have to take care of anyone who comes into their hospital regardless of their ability to pay.*****
So if a public hospital has to take any one why didn't the other persen get help? So they turn down Americans but only take illegals?

[vicky122]

speaking of dtroitpunk, where is he? I think we could match those 2 together and sit back with some popcorn.........

Oh ya someone else who has a mind of thier own and you guys can't handle it. Why evan bring that persons name into it when has not evan been in here and posted. Talk about being grown up.

[okie]

speaking of dtroitpunk, where is he? I think we could match those 2 together and sit back with some popcorn.........

He'd probably use too big of words for her to understand!

[okie]

It was in the jounal news (westchester county, NY) and I can't find a way to get any back articles. The US citizen had been in White Plains Hospital and the illegal was in Westchester Medical Center.

As far as free services it is a known fact that public hospitals have to take care of anyone who comes into their hospital regardless of their ability to pay. If a person is here illegally, they have no proof that they work or own anything and therefore they can not be charged. I have personally seen people register at the hospital and when asked if they had insurance, the person shrugged. The hospital worker continued to ask questions and many times received shrugs as answers. It was almost comical at one point when the employee asked for a phone number and the person shook their head meaning that they did not have a phone.......and then their cell phone rang. The hospital employee finally gave up and filled out the forms and let the person continue on to get their needs taken care of. Then it was my turn. All the forms got filled out and then I was pointed toward the cashier so that I could pay my co-pay. Sad commentary.

That's sad!

[vicky122]

He'd probably use too big of words for her to understand!

Hey if you got something to say? Say it. For one I am not Forking stupid are you? Don't start throwing crap because I can throw it right back. Man how sad it is that it drives you guys nuts that I don't think like you guys. I am not mindless as some.

[ahippiechic]

It was in the jounal news (westchester county, NY) and I can't find a way to get any back articles. The US citizen had been in White Plains Hospital and the illegal was in Westchester Medical Center.

As far as free services it is a known fact that public hospitals have to take care of anyone who comes into their hospital regardless of their ability to pay. If a person is here illegally, they have no proof that they work or own anything and therefore they can not be charged. I have personally seen people register at the hospital and when asked if they had insurance, the person shrugged. The hospital worker continued to ask questions and many times received shrugs as answers. It was almost comical at one point when the employee asked for a phone number and the person shook their head meaning that they did not have a phone.......and then their cell phone rang. The hospital employee finally gave up and filled out the forms and let the person continue on to get their needs taken care of. Then it was my turn. All the forms got filled out and then I was pointed toward the cashier so that I could pay my co-pay. Sad commentary.

Yeah, When I was in the ER last year, it was the same way.

[boopster]

***As far as free services it is a known fact that public hospitals have to take care of anyone who comes into their hospital regardless of their ability to pay.*****
So if a public hospital has to take any one why didn't the other persen get help? So they turn down Americans but only take illegals?

The other person did get help but at a cost of $10000. Why? Because he happens to be a US citizen and has assets...for example: documented employment. He will have to pay this off in time. It is NOT free for him as it is for anyone who is here illegally. Now do you understand?

[okie]

Hey if you got something to say? Say it. For one I am not Forking stupid are you? Don't start throwing crap because I can throw it right back.

Yeah, if you are going to live in this country then learn to speak correctly.

[IthinkNOT!]

Yeah, if you are going to live in this country then learn to speak correctly.



:yeah :thankyou :dito:

I was wondering where she learned her grammar from myself.....

[vicky122]

Yeah, if you are going to live in this country then learn to speak correctly.

Oh man so all you guys who don't cross your t's or dot your I you can she how Okie really feels about you. You must speak correctly. Why are you evan posting if it bothers you so much. Do you pay for my internet srevice or any of my bills??? I think not so I will speak or type how I d@mn well feel.
Also how would you know if I wasn't in some type of class in school? Or you all so heartless you enjoy making fun of people? Does it make you feel good? I mean really what do you get out of it?

[vicky122]

:yeah :thankyou :dito:

I was wondering where she learned her grammar from myself.....

Il. great school systems. Wow how many people on here do you guys make fun of behind thier back?? And what you use spell check and I don't.

[IthinkNOT!]

no, actually I rarely ever use spell check. I grew up without spell check, therefore I had to learn how to spell. And by the way, no one is making fun of you behind your back, it is all right here for you to read.

[okie]

Oh man so all you guys who don't cross your t's or dot your I you can she how Okie really feels about you. You must speak correctly. Why are you evan posting if it bothers you so much. Do you pay for my internet srevice or any of my bills??? I think not so I will spek or type how I d@mn well feel.

It just bothers me when someone comes over here and can't even make a sentence that makes any sense.

[vicky122]

It just bothers me when someone comes over here and can't even make a sentence that makes any sense.

Oh man here we go. Lets see Sterling Il. last time I looked was in the USA. I could be wrong being dumb in all.

[IthinkNOT!]

Hey if you got something to say? Say it. For one I am not Forking stupid are you? Don't start throwing crap because I can throw it right back. Man how sad it is that it drives you guys nuts that I don't think like you guys. I am not mindless as some.


you asked for it....


Oh man so all you guys who don't cross your t's or dot your I you can she how Okie really feels about you. You must speak correctly. Why are you evan posting if it bothers you so much. Do you pay for my internet srevice or any of my bills??? I think not so I will speak or type how I d@mn well feel.
Also how would you know if I wasn't in some type of class in school? Or you all so heartless you enjoy making fun of people? Does it make you feel good? I mean really what do you get out of it?


And we probably just a$$umed you weren't in any kind of school because you seem to think you are an expert.....

[vicky122]

you asked for it....




And we probably just a$$umed you weren't in any kind of school because you seem to think you are an expert.....

No I think it is you who thinks you are an expert.....
But you know I meet a lot of stupid and rude people. I always amazes me when they show thier true self. But it doesn't stop me from posting. It never has before and it won't now. So it really doesn't matter if you think you have to make me feel small in order for you to feel big.

[IthinkNOT!]

Oh man here we go. Lets see Sterling Il. last time I looked was in the USA. I could be wrong being dumb in all.



according to wikapedia Il can refer to alot of things....


IL may refer to:

Israel, ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 country code
Illinois, United States postal abbreviation
Ilmenau, vehicle registration plate code for Ilmenau, a town in Thuringia, Germany (newer plates obtain code for district KI, Kreis Ilmenau)
Lankair, IATA airline designator
Ilyushin, Russian design bureau and aircraft manufacturer, i.e. aircraft or aircraft type of this making (plural for these: ILs)
International League, Class AAA league in North American Minor League Baseball
IL Protocol, a.k.a. Internet Link protocol, developed originally as part of Plan 9 from Bell Labs
the following singular IL abbreviations may have as plural ILs:

Intermediate language, usually the Common Intermediate Language (CIL), in computer science
Introgression line, in plant genetics
Interleukin, a family of cytokines, in biochemistry
Ionic liquid, in chemistry including pharmaceutics, food science
il can be:

the third-person singular masculine personal pronoun he, or the expletive pronoun it (pronoun) (as in 'it rains', il pleut), in French language
one of the masculine definite articles in Italian language
the term for 'province' in Turkey, see Provinces of Turkey
.il is the Internet TLD for Israel



BTW I borrowed someones PHD...lol

[freeby4me]

Excuse me but did't you address this to me? Looks like my name. So now your every post is being attacked??? OMG

OK Just one more...I cant help it LOL

As far as "my every post being attacked" I was using this as a pre-curser as to what will happen. So far, every person who comes in this thread and says "boo" you JUMP down their throat for having an opinion that differs, as far as DtroitPunk and myself...well thats our own business, something that goes back a long ways (well many posts anyways)
Oh, one more thing. Its EVEN.....EVAN is a name, just thought you might like to know.

[vicky122]

OK Just one more...I cant help it LOL

As far as "my every post being attacked" I was using this as a pre-curser as to what will happen. So far, every person who comes in this thread and says "boo" you JUMP down their throat for having an opinion that differs, as far as DtroitPunk and myself...well thats our own business, something that goes back a long ways (well many posts anyways)
Oh, one more thing. Its EVEN.....EVAN is a name, just thought you might like to know.

If you go back I only went and took a quote from people who have done the same to me. So they can quote me but I am not to say anything. As far as Dtroitpunk where did I say anything about him and you? You are the one who said something in you post.
Thanks for the spell check.
Well it has been fun. But 5 am will be here and I do work. Why I don't know when I could be sitting in some public aid office asking for a hand out of food stamps and housing plus a medical card.

[onfire4god57]

Well actually getting back to the original post.............

I have read this before, I agreed with it before and I still agree with it now.

In no other country would we as USA citizens be allowed to go and demand the rights that people from Mexico have demand (and yes they have demanded) from the USA.

No other citizens from other countries other than Mexico have ever demanded that their country's flag be flown with ours, or in the place of our flag.

No non citizen, or illegal citizen should ever be able to demand "rights" in our country.

I have no problem with people coming here from any country as long as they do it legally. And learn the LANGUAGE!!!!!!! That is by the way in the papers they sign when they become legalized citizens. Which makes me wonder how so many people can pass this test but still can't speak the language.

We should not have to "Press 1" for English, it should be standard on all phone calls.

We should not have to go to the store and try to figure out what we're trying to buy because it's not written in English. Hey I guess if we can figure it out by the pictures on the packages when it's written spanish, then that means that instead of being written in spanish it should be written in English and those that can't read it look at the pictures!

How come because of our last name we don't get our foodstamps until the 7th of the month, but if you're a "migrant worker" they get theirs on the 1st of the month. I guess we don't get as hungry as they do.

Like I said I have no problem with people from other countries coming here to make a better life, just do it legally and LEARN THE LANGUAGE!!!!

Oh, and I don't even know how to use the spell checker :star:

[IthinkNOT!]

Very well said! Thank you for putting into words what I could not!

[onfire4god57]

Thanks for the compliment, but I'm sure that before long I will be getting the 3rd degree for it. :slap

[IthinkNOT!]

maybe not, the main campainer has gone to bed, so you should be fine till tomorow!

[mamalamas]

Thanks for the post .. surely got a chuckle out of it ... only because of the sheer honesty the words contain.


If people from other countries want to come here to make a better life ... I am all for that .... HOWEVER ... I must agree ... learn the language! Come here legally ... and for the love of pete ... if you don't like it here ...



GO HOME!!!!!!!!!!

[LuvBigRip]

Vicky, I don't think anyone would care if you have a dissenting opinion, if (big IF) you actually put something intellegent behind your rants.

1.) Illegals do not belong here, they committed a crime.
2.) They drain far more in cost than any benefit they provide.
3.) They do not do work we jobs we will not, they do it for less than we wil.
4.) They are afforded aide, when many of our own Citizens go without because of them.
5.) They get medical care for free because they cannot be traced, hospitals write off their bills, because the ID and SSN number they provided are false/stolen, whereas the one a Citizen would provide is not and can be tracked. (Many times the actual owner of the SSN is tracked down and held responsible for the cost of treatment)
6.) Their children are being educated at a cost of 1/3 to 1/2 more than a Citizen's child. that is money that could be spent to educate our own kids.
7.) Many are illeducated in their own language, and refuse to learn ours.
8.) All are criminals by their very first act. All perpetuate the crimes by obtaining false/stolen ID's or work under the table. The owner of the SSN is held responsible for taxes and their lives can be destroyed.
9.) Neighborhoods and communities are destoyed by influxes of illegals due to crime, drugs and a lack of respect for property.

Notice, no where in this post did I mention a race or nationality. I could care less what the race or country of origin are, if they came here illegally, they need to leave. Now.

[DezaRay24]

I have a few questions...and some comments...

How come when a cop pulls over a person that is here illegally they aren't sent back to their country?

Also when an illegal person goes to the hospital or to the state to ask for help why isn’t a red flag sent out and they put back on the next bus, plane or train home?

The things that make me really mad is when they do get caught being here illegally or having stolen ID, SSN etc and they act dumb like they didn’t know what they were doing was wrong! Did it somehow slip their minds that they gave someone money for those things and their name isn’t the same?? They cry and beg to stay here. Again if any American was to steal an ID or SSN are butts would be in jail so fast we wouldn’t have time to cry and beg..

Also, if I didn’t have health insurance as an American and went to the doctor I’m sent to a collection agency for the balance. Illegal people get off with no bill because there is no SSN or ID# to send them to collections. And all's they would have to do is go back to their home country or buy a new ID/SSN. But I’m in debt for years..NOT FAIR IMO!

It also makes me made I’ve lived here all my life and I work hard for my broken down 1994 Trooper and my basement apt I live in and I’m happy with it but would love to have better for myself and my son someday, but it ticks me off that Illegal people with in about 1 year of being in the US can have brand new trucks and brand new houses to live in & still be illegal!!! WTF???

I totally agree with the very first posted letter because all that stuff is very much alive and true! I live in UT and I see it on a daily basis you got to Wal-Mart and I swear you’re in a foreign country!

Here in UT its very true that they put “their” flag above the American flag & even know I’m young and have never fought in a war when I hear/say the pledge of allegiance or sing/hear our national anthem or even see our American flag at half staff I tear up because I know how many peoples lives were lost for our freedom and I’m very thankful! I don’t think people from other countries truly understand just how thankful & prideful us Americans can get sometimes. They do take advantage of the fact that Americans are so willing to help them and its like the word spreads like a wild fire and they all come running over here. If we don’t do something to crack down on it there will be no more money/help to go around for ANYONE! And sad but true I do believe a US citizan should get help before an illigal. Look at how low our American dollar is getting. The UK dollar is stronger than ours because ours is going to fight a war that isn’t doing the US any good and to feed, provide medical and housing for people that are here illegally.

I just don’t get if illegal people are so darn proud of their home country why don’t they fight like we did for freedom? Nobody said it was easy for us to do but we did it.

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[Jolie Rouge]

Dear President Bush:

I'm about to plan a little trip with my family and extended family, and I would like to ask you to assist me. I'm going to walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico, and I need to make a few arrangements. I know you can help with this.

I plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws. I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here.

So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Vicente Fox, that I'm on my way over? Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:

1. Free medical care for my entire family.

2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.

3. All government forms need to be printed in English.

4. I want my kids to be taught by English-speaking teachers.

5. Schools need to include classes on American culture and history.

6. I want my kids to see the American flag flying on the top of the flag pole at their school with the Mexican flag flying lower down.

7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch.

8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.

9. I do not plan to have any car insurance, and I won't make any effort to learn local traffic laws.

10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from Pres. Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that all police officers speak English.

11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.

12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, and don’t enforce any labor laws or tax laws.

13. Please tell all the people in the country to be extremely nice and never say a critical word about me, or about the strain I might place on the economy.

I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all the people who come to the U.S. from Mexico. I am sure that Pres. Fox won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.

However, if he gives you any trouble, just invite him to go quail hunting with your V.P.

Thank you so much for your kind help.

Mexico’s Glass House.
Someone over at the Center for Security Policy has written the first in a series of articles about the Mexican government and THEIR immigration policies. The first one, which I’ve linked to, points out what the Mexican constitution says on that regard, and how much more harsh it is than OUR current laws.

Every country has the right to restrict the quality and quantity of foreign immigrants entering or living within its borders. If American policymakers are looking for legal models on which to base new laws restricting immigration and expelling foreign lawbreakers, they have a handy guide: the Mexican constitution.

Promulgated in 1917, the constitution of the United Mexican States borrows heavily from American constitutional and legal principles. It combines those principles with a strong sense nationalism, cultural self-identity, paternalism, and state power.

Mexico's constitution contains many provisions to protect the country from foreigners, including foreigners legally resident in the country and even foreign-born people who have become naturalized Mexican citizens. The Mexican constitution segregates immigrants and naturalized citizens from native-born citizens by denying immigrants basic human rights that Mexican immigrants enjoy in the United States. By making increasing demands that the U.S. not enforce its immigration laws and, indeed, that it liberalize them, Mexico is throwing stones within its own glass house. This paper, the first of a short series on Mexican immigration double-standards, examines the Mexican constitution's protections against immigrants, and concludes with some questions about U.S. policy.


( way to much to C&P - hit the site and read in it's entirety for yourself ... http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.o... &newsid=11942 )

The summary....

Immigrants and foreign visitors are banned from public political discourse.

Immigrants and foreigners are denied certain basic property rights.

Immigrants are denied equal employment access.

Immigrants and naturalized citizens will never be treated as real Mexican citizens.

Immigrants and naturalized citizens are not to be trusted in public service.

Immigrants and naturalized citizens may never become members of the clergy.

Private citizens may make citizens arrests of lawbreakers (i.e., illegal immigrants) and hand them to the authorities.

Immigrants may be expelled from Mexico for any reason and without due process.


[quote=whatever]don't kill the messenger
http://www.bigbigforums.com/news-information/548596-dont-kill-messenger.html

Check out these figures!! Has the U.S. Government gone mad, or is it just the people who are running it....

So often, we get caught up in a debate over political semantics and end up ignoring the hard-shell realities of what we're talking about. According to http://www.ImmigrationCounters.Com here are some of the realities that the Flake-Gutierrez Bill would airbrush out of the picture:

Number of Illegal Aliens in the Country 20,807,645

Money Wired to Mexico City since January, 2006 $22,213,001,672.00

Cost of Social Security Services for Illegal Aliens since 1996 $397,450,739,563.00

Number of Children of Illegal Aliens in Public Schools 3,958,789

Cost of Illegal Aliens in K-12 Since 1996: $13, 965,063,431.00

Number of Illegal Aliens Incarcerated 332,594

Cost of Incarcerations Since 2001 $1,398,127,429.00

Number of Illegal Aliens Fugitives 642,799

Skilled Jobs Taken by Illegal Aliens 9,872,838


Figures can trick your eyes. Take particular note that items 2,3,5, and 7 reflect BILLIONS not millions of dollars -- and that item 3 exceeds one-third of a TRILLION] dollars.

Can you imagine how much it will cost taxpayers if we triple the number of Illegals entering this country!!

[DBackFan]

OMG Jolie those are some frightening figures!

I have 2 Mexican foster daughters (their Mother is legal) but I still have NO sympathy for an illegal now........no matter what. GO HOME.

[Quaker_Parrots]

I was in the grocery this weekend and saw something that really irritated me. Kraft foods had a parmesean cheese display with coupons. On the coupons, the first line was huge bold spanish "bubble print" telling what the savings were. In small plain print was details in english savings. It kinda shows you what this country is going to. Even business is pandering to them.

[vicky122]

Lol. This is so funny.

[PrincessArky]

Well actually getting back to the original post.............

I have read this before, I agreed with it before and I still agree with it now.

In no other country would we as USA citizens be allowed to go and demand the rights that people from Mexico have demand (and yes they have demanded) from the USA.

No other citizens from other countries other than Mexico have ever demanded that their country's flag be flown with ours, or in the place of our flag.

No non citizen, or illegal citizen should ever be able to demand "rights" in our country.

I have no problem with people coming here from any country as long as they do it legally. And learn the LANGUAGE!!!!!!! That is by the way in the papers they sign when they become legalized citizens. Which makes me wonder how so many people can pass this test but still can't speak the language.

We should not have to "Press 1" for English, it should be standard on all phone calls.

We should not have to go to the store and try to figure out what we're trying to buy because it's not written in English. Hey I guess if we can figure it out by the pictures on the packages when it's written spanish, then that means that instead of being written in spanish it should be written in English and those that can't read it look at the pictures!

How come because of our last name we don't get our foodstamps until the 7th of the month, but if you're a "migrant worker" they get theirs on the 1st of the month. I guess we don't get as hungry as they do.

Like I said I have no problem with people from other countries coming here to make a better life, just do it legally and LEARN THE LANGUAGE!!!!

Oh, and I don't even know how to use the spell checker :star:

very well said and ITA!!!

[okie]

Lol. This is so funny.

Yeah, it's real funny that my taxes are going to illegals when that money could be going to our troops, roads, healthcare, etc. Maybe you would like to support them all since you seem to be the only one that supports them being here.

[PrincessArky]

Yeah, it's real funny that my taxes are going to illegals when that money could be going to our troops, roads, healthcare, etc. Maybe you would like to support them all since you seem to be the only one that supports them being here.

you will do better just to put her on ignore. It is impossible to have an intelligent debate with her because...........well she lacks the intelligence to see the other person's side

[boopster]

As the Nazis were 'cleaning' out Europe, people were attempting to escape torture and death. The multitude of people were educated and skilled and came from many different walks of life. One of their destinations was the US and it was not for the purpose of making money to send home while not paying their share by way of taxes. The way Hitler was annihilating people, there would most likely not be any relatives alive to send that money to. I won't go into the atrocities committed against these innocent people: men, women and children. This country's politicians did NOT open their arms and welcome these people to their bosom as some politicians today want to do for all illegals. For those wanting to immigrate here, they had to follow procedures which included filling out forms, living in camps in Europe where they had to learn English and finding someone who would become their sponsor before they could even put one foot on American soil. A sponsor was legally, morally, and monetarily responsible to any immigrant they accepted. Sponsorship was created so that these immigrants would not become a drain on the American citizens/taxpayers. Organizations created 'schools' for these immigrants to assist them in becoming acclimated with American culture including educating them in many aspects that were foreign to these newcomers. These 'schools' were funded with donations and staffed with volunteers. These people brought their pride with them along with respect for their 'new' country and did their utmost to make America proud of them. To allow illegals to become legal is an insult to those from yesterday and today who have followed the law of the land to become viable citizens who respect and honor the law.

[nightrider127]

I just wanted to thank Boopster for the nice reply.

The way it was in the past is the way it ought to be now.

[vicky122]

Yeah, it's real funny that my taxes are going to illegals when that money could be going to our troops, roads, healthcare, etc. Maybe you would like to support them all since you seem to be the only one that supports them being here.

Yeah and it is real funny all the lazy Americans who sit on thier butts while my taxes are for them. So they can have food stamps free medical and free housing.
It isn't evan with it. It just kills you guys that someone don't agree. It doesn't really matter what the subject is about if it is differant then what you say then all you know how to do is make fun of people slam them.
But as you can see I could careless. When you start paying my bills the I will worry about it. Oh and by the way I had and have many family members in the service.
Will I had all day at a computer butsome of us work for a living.

[freeby4me]

Yeah and it is real funny all the lazy Americans who sit on thier butts while my taxes are for them. So they can have food stamps free medical and free housing.
It isn't evan (EVEN, didnt we talk about this??) with it. It just kills you guys that someone don't agree. It doesn't really matter what the subject is about if it is differant then what you say then all you know how to do is make fun of people slam them.
But as you can see I could careless.(you mean CARE LESS, 2 words, and yea we can see how much you dont care cause you've posted how many times now in here, Yup, guess you just dont care!) When you start paying my bills the I will worry about it. Oh and by the way I had and have many family members in the service.
Will I had all day at a computer butsome of us work for a living(that I dont even know what it is you're trying to say) . Want to explain? ^^^^^^ READ ABOVE POST THOUROUGHLY

[andreame70]

The last time we had a heated debate about illegal immigration someone here posted what I thought was an excellent idea that would take care of several problems at once. This is not my idea, I wish I could take credit for it, but I thought I would pass it on to those of you who did not see it the first time.


Three problems exist:

Illegals crossing the Mexican border

Levies damaged in Louisiana

Alligator attacks in Florida


Simple solution:

Dig a moat the span of the entire border

Send the dirt to Louisiana to sure up the levies

Go to Florida, capture the gators, bring them to the border and fill up the moat

Problems solved

[IthinkNOT!]

Yeah and it is real funny all the lazy Americans who sit on thier butts while my taxes are for them. So they can have food stamps free medical and free housing.
It isn't evan with it. It just kills you guys that someone don't agree. It doesn't really matter what the subject is about if it is differant then what you say then all you know how to do is make fun of people slam them.
But as you can see I could careless. When you start paying my bills the I will worry about it. Oh and by the way I had and have many family members in the service.
WELL I had all day at a computer butsome of us work for a living.


Think you meant WELL, WILL is a name, just like EVAN, lol

[IthinkNOT!]

The last time we had a heated debate about illegal immigration someone here posted what I thought was an excellent idea that would take care of several problems at once. This is not my idea, I wish I could take credit for it, but I thought I would pass it on to those of you who did not see it the first time.


Three problems exist:

Illegals crossing the Mexican border

Levies damaged in Louisiana

Alligator attacks in Florida


Simple solution:

Dig a moat the span the entire border

Send the dirt to Louisiana to sure up the levies

Go to Florida, capture the gators, bring them to the border and fill up the moat

Problems solved
Great Idea!

[Angelseyes28]

The last time we had a heated debate about illegal immigration someone here posted what I thought was an excellent idea that would take care of several problems at once. This is not my idea, I wish I could take credit for it, but I thought I would pass it on to those of you who did not see it the first time.


Three problems exist:

Illegals crossing the Mexican border

Levies damaged in Louisiana

Alligator attacks in Florida


Simple solution:

Dig a moat the span the entire border

Send the dirt to Louisiana to sure up the levies

Go to Florida, capture the gators, bring them to the border and fill up the moat

Problems solved


Thank you soooooooo much for posting this. I got it in an email but deleted it and I couldn't remember exactly how it went. The only things I could remember was louisiana, dirt and gators LOL

[andreame70]

You are welcome Angelseyes, was it you that posted it in the other heated immigration thread that was here a couple of weeks ago?

I could not remember for the life of me who it was, I just remembered what it said. Glad I could help you out since you accidentally deleted it.

Andrea

[ahippiechic]

The last time we had a heated debate about illegal immigration someone here posted what I thought was an excellent idea that would take care of several problems at once. This is not my idea, I wish I could take credit for it, but I thought I would pass it on to those of you who did not see it the first time.


Three problems exist:

Illegals crossing the Mexican border

Levies damaged in Louisiana

Alligator attacks in Florida


Simple solution:

Dig a moat the span the entire border

Send the dirt to Louisiana to sure up the levies

Go to Florida, capture the gators, bring them to the border and fill up the moat

Problems solved

Love this, great idea!

Carlos Mencia had a good idea too. Hire illegals to watch the border, give them some land and a house, make them legal, BUT if they let any anyone get across the border, they have to give their house, land and job to the person they let get across and go back to Mexico! He said that would take care of the problem, lol!

[vicky122]

Do you really think I care how you pick my post apart? I am still here. What you need to do is get a gripe. Grow up and accept the fact that I am so much better then you for not going down to your level. But like I said you have to put down people to make your ownself feel good. How sad of a life you must have.
Boy freeby4me for someone that isn't coming back you sure have been back a lot. What no job or are one of the people that live off pubic aid? Also I thinknot do you feel like a big person? I am so glad I could help you out.

[freeby4me]

Meh....:getyou :slap

[IthinkNOT!]

Do you really think I care how you pick my post apart? I am still here. What you need to do is get a gripe. Grow up and accept the fact that I am so much better then you for not going down to your level. But like I said you have to put down people to make your ownself feel good. How sad of a life you must have.
Boy freeby4me for someone that isn't coming back you sure have been back a lot. What no job or are one of the people that live off pubic aid? Also I thinknot do you feel like a big person? I am so glad I could help you out.
http://www.rogerdarlington.me.uk/punctuation.html

http://www.espindle.com/news/learn_to_spell.html

[Angelseyes28]

Love this, great idea!

Carlos Mencia had a good idea too. Hire illegals to watch the border, give them some land and a house, make them legal, BUT if they let any anyone get across the border, they have to give their house, land and job to the person they let get across and go back to Mexico! He said that would take care of the problem, lol!

Now that's a great idea too!!!!!!

Oh and nope andreame it wasn't me that posted it but I sure am glad you remembered it lol.

[okie]

Yeah and it is real funny all the lazy Americans who sit on thier butts while my taxes are for them. So they can have food stamps free medical and free housing.
It isn't evan with it. It just kills you guys that someone don't agree. It doesn't really matter what the subject is about if it is differant then what you say then all you know how to do is make fun of people slam them.
But as you can see I could careless. When you start paying my bills the I will worry about it. Oh and by the way I had and have many family members in the service.
Will I had all day at a computer butsome of us work for a living.

For your information I have a job, go to college and have two kids whom I raise without the assistance of any government money. My husband also works. So you are not supporting anyone in this household.

You might want to check this website out.
http://www.m-w.com/

[okie]

The last time we had a heated debate about illegal immigration someone here posted what I thought was an excellent idea that would take care of several problems at once. This is not my idea, I wish I could take credit for it, but I thought I would pass it on to those of you who did not see it the first time.


Three problems exist:

Illegals crossing the Mexican border

Levies damaged in Louisiana

Alligator attacks in Florida


Simple solution:

Dig a moat the span the entire border

Send the dirt to Louisiana to sure up the levies

Go to Florida, capture the gators, bring them to the border and fill up the moat

Problems solved

Sounds good to me!

[boopster]

Good idea BUT..... the I-love-Illegals-organizations will be out in number using the legal aid society (paid for my the eternally abused taxpayer) to sue all Americans just for the thought of putting their lives in danger by being here illegally. Probably in their lawsuit they will request free safe passage into the US for their extended families in additional to a monetary compensation for the trauma that alligators and moats have brought down on them.......and if a judge can ask for $64 million for a pair of pants then I am sure that they feel that $64 trillion per person might be sufficient. Then again...if this moat is built then the US government can fire the illegals who are building the fence to keep illegals out ..... and hire these same illegals to dig the moat! Egad - this country is in big big trouble!

[okie]

Good idea BUT..... the I-love-Illegals-organizations will be out in number using the legal aid society (paid for my the eternally abused taxpayer) to sue all Americans just for the thought of putting their lives in danger by being here illegally. Probably in their lawsuit they will request free safe passage into the US for their extended families in additional to a monetary compensation for the trauma that alligators and moats have brought down on them.......and if a judge can ask for $64 million for a pair of pants then I am sure that they feel that $64 trillion per person might be sufficient. Then again...if this moat is built then the US government can fire the illegals who are building the fence to keep illegals out ..... and hire these same illegals to dig the moat! Egad - this country is in big big trouble!

What's sad is that I can really see this happening and you are right, we are in big trouble. Atleast that judge had some common sense.

[boopster]

That judge didn't want common 'cents', he wanted it in common 'dollars'! :) Hopefully someone straightened him out and explained that he has to put one leg in his pants at a time BEFORE he tries to pull up his zipper. Otherwise something is going to get caught......

[PrincessArky]

The last time we had a heated debate about illegal immigration someone here posted what I thought was an excellent idea that would take care of several problems at once. This is not my idea, I wish I could take credit for it, but I thought I would pass it on to those of you who did not see it the first time.


Three problems exist:

Illegals crossing the Mexican border

Levies damaged in Louisiana

Alligator attacks in Florida


Simple solution:

Dig a moat the span of the entire border

Send the dirt to Louisiana to sure up the levies

Go to Florida, capture the gators, bring them to the border and fill up the moat

Problems solved


I believe it was Pepper that posted this one now we just gotta get our shovels :)

[PrincessArky]

I have a few questions...and some comments...

How come when a cop pulls over a person that is here illegally they aren't sent back to their country?

Also when an illegal person goes to the hospital or to the state to ask for help why isn’t a red flag sent out and they put back on the next bus, plane or train home?

The things that make me really mad is when they do get caught being here illegally or having stolen ID, SSN etc and they act dumb like they didn’t know what they were doing was wrong! Did it somehow slip their minds that they gave someone money for those things and their name isn’t the same?? They cry and beg to stay here. Again if any American was to steal an ID or SSN are butts would be in jail so fast we wouldn’t have time to cry and beg..

Also, if I didn’t have health insurance as an American and went to the doctor I’m sent to a collection agency for the balance. Illegal people get off with no bill because there is no SSN or ID# to send them to collections. And all's they would have to do is go back to their home country or buy a new ID/SSN. But I’m in debt for years..NOT FAIR IMO!

It also makes me made I’ve lived here all my life and I work hard for my broken down 1994 Trooper and my basement apt I live in and I’m happy with it but would love to have better for myself and my son someday, but it ticks me off that Illegal people with in about 1 year of being in the US can have brand new trucks and brand new houses to live in & still be illegal!!! WTF???

I totally agree with the very first posted letter because all that stuff is very much alive and true! I live in UT and I see it on a daily basis you got to Wal-Mart and I swear you’re in a foreign country!

Here in UT its very true that they put “their” flag above the American flag & even know I’m young and have never fought in a war when I hear/say the pledge of allegiance or sing/hear our national anthem or even see our American flag at half staff I tear up because I know how many peoples lives were lost for our freedom and I’m very thankful! I don’t think people from other countries truly understand just how thankful & prideful us Americans can get sometimes. They do take advantage of the fact that Americans are so willing to help them and its like the word spreads like a wild fire and they all come running over here. If we don’t do something to crack down on it there will be no more money/help to go around for ANYONE! And sad but true I do believe a US citizan should get help before an illigal. Look at how low our American dollar is getting. The UK dollar is stronger than ours because ours is going to fight a war that isn’t doing the US any good and to feed, provide medical and housing for people that are here illegally.

I just don’t get if illegal people are so darn proud of their home country why don’t they fight like we did for freedom? Nobody said it was easy for us to do but we did it.

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I think it has something to do with it being a Federal crime and not local or state which is total BS if you ask me

[LuvBigRip]

Do you really think I care how you pick my post apart? I am still here. What you need to do is get a gripe. Grow up and accept the fact that I am so much better then you for not going down to your level. But like I said you have to put down people to make your ownself feel good. How sad of a life you must have.
Boy freeby4me for someone that isn't coming back you sure have been back a lot. What no job or are one of the people that live off pubic aid? Also I thinknot do you feel like a big person? I am so glad I could help you out.

Never have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

[freeby4me]

Never have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

So true :rolling

[PrincessArky]

Never have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

Thats why that ignore button is great you only see what those ppl write if someone copies and pastes it here

[lisahiser]

We can legally go to mexico and buy merchandise, and bring it back and do whatever we choose to do with it. It's not like we go over there and steal there stuff. And no one is cracking a joke about the mexicans, they are stating fact. Mexicans can illegaly come to this country and do whatever they choose. I think it is time to put a stop to it. If they want to be here so bad then they need to do it legally!

ITA

[IthinkNOT!]

ITA
Thank you! Glad someone around here does...

[freebielover]

Yeah and it is real funny all the lazy Americans who sit on thier butts while my taxes are for them. So they can have food stamps free medical and free housing.
It isn't evan with it. It just kills you guys that someone don't agree. It doesn't really matter what the subject is about if it is differant then what you say then all you know how to do is make fun of people slam them.
But as you can see I could careless. When you start paying my bills the I will worry about it. Oh and by the way I had and have many family members in the service.
Will I had all day at a computer butsome of us work for a living.


First let me say I like the original post, it's so true. And Vicky, I don't think ANY of us here agree with the lazy people who sit on their butt and get aid, most people on this board work very hard to provide for their families. I am on the computer pretty much all day, thats because I work 12 hour shifts so I have 3-4 days a week off, we all have different situations. I think people abusing the welfare system is a separate post which has been hashed out on this board time and time again. There are millions US citizens who work very hard for their money and struggle to get by. There are people from all over, citizens and illegals that cheat the system. So it's ok for illegals to cheat the system but not for citizens?

[IthinkNOT!]

First let me say I like the original post, it's so true. And Vicky, I don't think ANY of us here agree with the lazy people who sit on their butt and get aid, most people on this board work very hard to provide for their families. I am on the computer pretty much all day, thats because I work 12 hour shifts so I have 3-4 days a week off, we all have different situations. I think people abusing the welfare system is a separate post which has been hashed out on this board time and time again. There are millions US citizens who work very hard for their money and struggle to get by. There are people from all over, citizens and illegals that cheat the system. So it's ok for illegals to cheat the system but not for citizens?
Hon, just save your breath, might need it later, especially dealing with her. IMO if she wants to talk about lazy americans, then she needs to start a thread about that, this one is about immigration.

[freebielover]

Hon, just save your breath, might need it later, especially dealing with her. IMO if she wants to talk about lazy americans, then she needs to start a thread about that, this one is about immigration.


Lol ITA :)