Police in Phoenix

[ahippiechic]

Last night, one of my friends was stabbed in the parking lot and when the cops got here, they didn't even go over to question the guys that did it! I was so pissed and got a little smart-ass with one of the cops and he threatened to take me to jail. F-N HELLO! I am on the ground, in a pool of blood, holding someone's folded up T-shirt on this man's stab wound, and the people who did it are just STANDING next door watching and you are threatening to take ME to jail??? Sometimes, the cop here in Phoenix are just useless!

On a better note, my friend is out of surgery, minus part of his liver, but is doing ok.

[Pepsi4me]

OMG! :stunned


Do you know the person who did this? That's a scary situation to be in.

[ahippiechic]

My friend (& neighbor) and some guys were hanging out in front of their apt, drinking and some skinheads (who I think live in the complex next door) came by and started yelling racist insults and a fistfight got started. And my friend got stabbed. His wife came beating on my door telling me to call 911 and after I did I went out there. when the cops got there, everyone in the parking lot was telling the cops that those were some of the people who were involved in it, but it was like they just weren't listening! I left after the paramedics left and the police left with ambulance. Maybe they questioned them later, (which I doubt) but why not when they were all just standing there, easy to talk to??

[Fred12]

I am glad your friend is going to be okay. The way the police handled that, is unreal! :mad:

[Bahet]

I'd go talk to the press about it. Sometimes I wonder if the heat melts some of the officer's brains down here.

2 years ago our next door neighbor beat his wife to death. He stomped her head and crushed her skull. Then, while she was still alive, he had the morons who lived on the other side of us help him load her into their car. He then proceeded to drive her, semi conscious and barely alive, and their 3 kids - ages 8, 4, and 2 to CA. I found out what happened a few days later from another neighbor. Even though I lived right between the 2 *$^$@!~! the police NEVER asked me if I heard or saw anything! They never even came over to question us at all or ask us to call them if the other neighbor came home as he had fled and the police were looking for him.

One day about 2 weeks later I saw the other idiots car in his driveway and called the police. It's a good thing other people in the neighborhood knew about it or I wouldn't have known to call them when he was home.

[Shann]

Bahet has a great idea, I cannot believe the police wouldn't want to talk to them especially if people SAW them involved.. WTH is the matter w/ them? :mad: Maybe a nice lil chat w/ the police chief is in order as well...

I'm glad your friend is doing all right, I hope he makes a fast recovery.

[LuvBigRip]

Sadly, the press in Phoenix wouldn't care much either. I didn't have alot of respect for the police in Phoenix when I lived there. I lived in a border area. The corner I lived on was County, across the street was Glendale, 1/2 a block the other way is Tolleson. They used to fight over who had to show up for Fire/Police/Ambulance. I had a Phx Police officer tell me I was lucky he even showed up.

[ahippiechic]

Sadly, the press in Phoenix wouldn't care much either. I didn't have alot of respect for the police in Phoenix when I lived there. I lived in a border area. The corner I lived on was County, across the street was Glendale, 1/2 a block the other way is Tolleson. They used to fight over who had to show up for Fire/Police/Ambulance. I had a Phx Police officer tell me I was lucky he even showed up.

Yeah, they act like that here too, that we're just lucky they showed up. They said since my friend couldn't indentify the one who did the stabbing, only the ones who were in involved in the fight, that they really couldn't do anything about it. so I guess that means they aren't supossed to try??

I've lived here 6 years and haven't really had any trouble with skinheads until these moved into the complex next door. They hang out by the gate and yell things when I'm walking to the Circle K. (and I look white) They've been absent the last few nights tho, since the stabbing, because my friend's borthers have been looking for them.

[Johnsmom]

Unless someone is bleeding or dying, the Phoenix police don't show up (or they come several hours later). That's why there's so much property crime and the like, no one gets caught or in trouble because the police don't come. We need more police.

[ahippiechic]

That's true Johnsmom. But I just thought that since they were there, they would have at least asked questions. One of them put gloves on and kneeled down beside me and asked if it was bad. I told him I couldn't really see the wounds well because of his shirt and the blood and that there was a lot of bleeding. And he said. "ok the paramedics are on the way' and got up. WTF???

They won't come over here when called if it's a single officer. He'll stop in the Circle K parking lot and wait for backup, then they'll both come into the complex. Several cops have been beaten up over here and a few years ago one was shot and killed, so they don't take any chances. But really, they're supossed to 'protect and serve' everyone, no matter what kind of neighborhood it is.

[Johnsmom]

That's true Johnsmom. But I just thought that since they were there, they would have at least asked questions. One of them put gloves on and kneeled down beside me and asked if it was bad. I told him I couldn't really see the wounds well because of his shirt and the blood and that there was a lot of bleeding. And he said. "ok the paramedics are on the way' and got up. WTF???

They won't come over here when called if it's a single officer. He'll stop in the Circle K parking lot and wait for backup, then they'll both come into the complex. Several cops have been beaten up over here and a few years ago one was shot and killed, so they don't take any chances. But really, they're supossed to 'protect and serve' everyone, no matter what kind of neighborhood it is.

You're right...and considering someone got stabbed, you'd *think* an investigation was in order. The more they let people get away with, the worse it will get. I live in a not so hot area, although my immediate neighborhood is OK, for now. I have noticed a huge increase in grafitti over the last 6 months. It just looks run down everywhere you go. They tell you to call 911 if you see someone in the act of making grafitti, but I don't imagine the person would wait around for hours for the police to come arrest them. It doesn't comfort me at all that they didn't question the people who stabbed your friend. That's just wrong. I hope he's doing OK.

[ahippiechic]

I have to admit, that this area isn't as bad as it was a few years ago. They have cleaned up quite a bit, both on how the apts look and the crime rate. But it could be a LOT better! And I thought it WAS a lot better when we moved here. Found out pretty quick I was wrong.

I used to be an apt manager on 27th ave and Glendale and we had a special grafitti # to call when we saw someone tagging and and I have never once, in the 4 years I worked there, seen anyone come out after we called.

[PrincessArky]

oh I really hope your friend a fast and quick healing

[Johnsmom]

My brother used to live in an apt on 27th around Glendale, maybe Northern. It didn't seem too bad. I have called the Grafitti Busters that come and paint over it. I think they should have a uniform color on all the walls along the streets because now there's blocks of different colors over where the grafitti was.

[LuvBigRip]

I lived out at 91st ave and Camelback. If we wanted grafitti painted over, we had to do it ourselves. Not once in the 2 years i lived there did they respond

[Johnsmom]

I lived out at 91st ave and Camelback. If we wanted grafitti painted over, we had to do it ourselves. Not once in the 2 years i lived there did they respond

I don't live far from there at all. I think one of the ford dealers here does the graffiti painting on a volunteer basis. At the rate it's going, they can't keep up. It is so frustrating. I hate looking at it everwhere I go.

[LuvBigRip]

I don't live far from there at all. I think one of the ford dealers here does the graffiti painting on a volunteer basis. At the rate it's going, they can't keep up. It is so frustrating. I hate looking at it everwhere I go.

I know it was getting bad when I left there two years ago. My Mom, Aunt and Sister still live in Phoenix. They say it is looking more like Lost Angeles all the time. Between the illegals, gangs, grafitti, crappy schools and crime you couldn't pay me to live there again. I will take my little town in Colorado TYVM.

[Johnsmom]

I know it was getting bad when I left there two years ago. My Mom, Aunt and Sister still live in Phoenix. They say it is looking more like Lost Angeles all the time. Between the illegals, gangs, grafitti, crappy schools and crime you couldn't pay me to live there again. I will take my little town in Colorado TYVM.

Yep, it does look like LA now. Every time we go to CA, someone talks about their friends that moved to PHX because it was so cheap. So, we really are getting like LA unfortunately. I am so tired to the illegals and the graffiti and the people who move here and don't give a darn what their property looks like. I have lived in Phoenix all my life and it is sad to see what is happening. Too bad the city govt doesn't care enough to change things. If Guiliani can manage the broken window theory in NYC, then certainly it could be done here.

[ahippiechic]

We have new groundskeepers at my complex and they stay pretty much on top of keeping it painted over, but the paint is a lighter color, so you can still tell where it was. They just painted the whole building last year, so how hard could it have been to order a little extra matching paint for touchups?

[galeane29]

Stories like this make me glad that I live in the country although I do have to deal with rednecks...but oh well. At least there are no drive by shootings and stabbings. I use to live in El Paso Texas...oh my GOD that was a hell hole.

[janelle]

Who can blame the cops? Each time they rush in to help they are the ones who get sent to jail for doing something wrong to the bad guys.

I think the police have given up or at least they can only do defensive policing. When your own city and boss won't support you when you go into a life and death situation I wouldn't do much either, who would?

[ahippiechic]

I blame the cops.

If they aren't going to do the job they are getting paid for, then they need to be fired. If they don't want to be shot at etc, they need to find another profession.

[janelle]

Well New York had a horrible crime problem but when Rudy Giuliani became mayor he cleaned it up cause he supported the police. If Phoenix would do he same thing the police would do the job they were hired to do.

I hope they come back and get the creeps who hurt your friend. Personally I would move to a safer area if there is one in Phoenix.

[Johnsmom]

Well New York had a horrible crime problem but when Rudy Giuliani became mayor he cleaned it up cause he supported the police. If Phoenix would do he same thing the police would do the job they were hired to do.

I hope they come back and get the creeps who hurt your friend. Personally I would move to a safer area if there is one in Phoenix.

I totally agree about Guiliani. He had the broken window theory and he was exactly right. I don't think the mayor here cares as much. I personally would love to move to a better area, but thanks to all the CA people buying up the real estate here, the prices are often out of range. We are trying to save up to move to a nicer area.