Another Pit Bull Attack.

[aussiegirl]

There was another pit bull attack today in my area. A 7-year old had part of her face taken off. But I am SO SURE THAT IT WAS THE OWNERS FAULT AND NOT THE FXXXXXX DOGS.
Please no one reply regarding how wonderful these piece of shit dogs are. Just send a check to the little girl so she doesnt have to go through life scared.

[earnhardt1]

awww poor lil girl.............
no tgoing into the pittbull thing again so i hope she is ok and can get the help needed to fix the damage if able to be fixed

[Njean31]

there was another one last week here but i didn't post it. poor little girl. hope they killed the dog.

[msginna]

:( poor baby.... I hope they put that dog to sleep! Am shaking my head... how many people have to be hurt?

[DBackFan]

I am so sorry to hear of yet another SENSELESS and BRUTAL attack by these loving dogs....NOT

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/oct2004/20041028_pitbull1.jpg

Makes me want to get my gun just looking at one anymore.

[evrita]

Makes me wanna get my damn gun everytime i hear of a senselees beating done by the hand of a stupid human too gee think I will F$%%^&& start and take out the whole damn whorld so every kid wont be scarred for DAMN life

[Specialk]

OMG!!! That poor little girl, bless her heart!!!! I just wanna hug and hold her for what shes gone through!!!! (Shaking my head and near tears)!!!!! :(

[aussiegirl]

I am so sorry to hear of yet another SENSELESS and BRUTAL attack by these loving dogs....NOT

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/oct2004/20041028_pitbull1.jpg

Makes me want to get my gun just looking at one anymore.

sorry- I misunderstood

[earnhardt1]

omg i was gonna stay away but for real not every pitt is gonna attack their family adn the kids

[earnhardt1]

Makes me wanna get my damn gun everytime i hear of a senselees beating done by the hand of a stupid human too gee think I will F$%%^&& start and take out the whole damn whorld so every kid wont be scarred for DAMN life

ita everyone is freaking bout the pittbulls but not everyday is someone posting about parents that hurt and scar their kids for life go figure... wait now someone will same not the same thing


http://www.comcast.net/news/national/index.jsp?cat=DOMESTIC&fn=/2007/05/09/658437.html&cvqh=itn_vegans

[lameduch27]

Poor baby...but, I wonder why they nobody ever posts anything about the little piece of crap dogs that send kids in for stitches, just as often, and scare the little kids JUST AS BAD! A dog attack is a dog attack...no matter the size...and usually a dog attacking ANYONE is the result of some STUPID ASS OWNER!!!

*aaahh...I'll get off my soapbox now

[aussiegirl]

I am so sorry to hear of yet another SENSELESS and BRUTAL attack by these loving dogs....NOT

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/oct2004/20041028_pitbull1.jpg

Makes me want to get my gun just looking at one anymore.

grab 2 guns- We'll have a good time!!!!!

[NYY420]

i hate pitbulls.... i love dobermans, german sheppards, and labs

[aussiegirl]

i hate pitbulls.... i love dobermans, german sheppards, and labs

Me too! I would destroy the entire race if I was in charge.

[earnhardt1]

dobies can be just as mean sometimes worse

[aussiegirl]

Poor baby...but, I wonder why they nobody ever posts anything about the little piece of crap dogs that send kids in for stitches, just as often, and scare the little kids JUST AS BAD! A dog attack is a dog attack...no matter the size...and usually a dog attacking ANYONE is the result of some STUPID ASS OWNER!!!

*aaahh...I'll get off my soapbox now

Yea, your right. A couple of stiches is probably just as bad as having half your face ripped off.

[freeby4me]

Me too! I would destroy the entire race if I was in charge.

Careful what you say.....Hitler said the same thing. Just a thought.

[NYY420]

right on aussie girl;)

[earnhardt1]

ANY dog can do that not just a pittbull,why cant ppl understand tey can be a loving animal

[aussiegirl]

Careful what you say.....Hitler said the same thing. Just a thought.

Then call me the Hitler of the pitbull breed. Gosh, I cant believe I just wrote that. Thats horrible. I just hate those dogs.

[aussiegirl]

ANY dog can do that not just a pittbull,why cant ppl understand tey can be a loving animal

Ok, lets reverse this on you. (yea, the pit bull defender) If you needed your dog to attack and kill someone who was trying to harm you or your family, would you go with the pittbull or poodle?

[earnhardt1]

thats is a different subject.. but i would not pick the pitt i would pick the dobie becasue all of them i have seen are meaner than the pitt

[earnhardt1]

oh and yes i am the pitt defender my son is 7.5 and is still here

[aussiegirl]

Do you own a pitt now?

[aussiegirl]

thats is a different subject.. but i would not pick the pitt i would pick the dobie becasue all of them i have seen are meaner than the pitt

Dobie wasnt an option- pitt or poodle (those are usually the dogs that cause stitches)

[lameduch27]

Ok, lets reverse this on you. (yea, the pit bull defender) If you needed your dog to attack and kill someone who was trying to harm you or your family, would you go with the pittbull or poodle?

It's funny that you brought up poodles...(wish my brother was here to tell the story) because it was a POODLE that attacked my brother when he was little, and everyone else who tried to get the things teeth out of my brother...more than a couple of stitches. You just hate pitbulls and have probably never been around one.

[earnhardt1]

no mine was stolen,he plays with a female pitt everyday next door and my mom has one

i would pick the pitt it will defend the family it loves and is trained to protect
you could not pay me to take or own a poodle

[earnhardt1]

It's funny that you brought up poodles...(wish my brother was here to tell the story) because it was a POODLE that attacked my brother when he was little, and everyone else who tried to get the things teeth out of my brother...more than a couple of stitches. You just hate pitbulls and have probably never been around one.


very well said

[aussiegirl]

It's funny that you brought up poodles...(wish my brother was here to tell the story) because it was a POODLE that attacked my brother when he was little, and everyone else who tried to get the things teeth out of my brother...more than a couple of stitches. You just hate pitbulls and have probably never been around one.

That why I mentioned poodles. They cause many bites but I have never, and I could be wrong, read an article stating that a poodle ever killed anyone. Please I have a very open mind. If you are able to find an article on killer poodles let me know. Yea, your right I avoid pitbulls the same way I avoid, oh lets say serial killers.

[evrita]

Closed minded people still wont listen it is like talking to a wall

[lameduch27]

Closed minded people still wont listen it is like talking to a wall

ITA

[earnhardt1]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A64465-2002Dec16
http://katzdawgs.tripod.com/attacks.htm
http://www.igorilla.com/gorilla/animal/2000/dog_kills_baby_los_angeles.html

[aussiegirl]

ITA

Well, stop being so close minded

[Pepsi4me]

Almost every few weeks you hear of another pittbull attack. It's just sickening.


You always hear an owner say but the dog(pittbull) was always nice before.
So doesnt it go to show that even if a pittbull is raised right they can still attack.

[lameduch27]

Well, stop being so close minded

I'm not being closed minded...I love animals....pitbulls, poodles, kitties...you name it...YOU are the one who started this thread not wanting to hear from pitbull lovers

[earnhardt1]

no owner is gonna say they mistreated the dog(pittbull)which most due. you cant put a dog in a closed room alone,or lock it up and not interact with it and want it to love you

[aussiegirl]

Almost every few weeks you hear of another pittbull attack. It's just sickening.


You always hear an owner say but the dog(pittbull) was always nice before.
So doesnt it go to show that even if a pittbull is raised right they can still attack.

Well said. I totally Agree. Never heard one of those owners say, Yea, he was pretty aggresvie.

[freeby4me]

I personally dont think its the breed but the owners of the dog. Aussiegirl, I wasnt trying to be mean or anything with my statement, I was just saying its not fair to dispise a certain race/breed.
Im currently trying to be the proud owner of a Staffordshire Bull Terrier but they're very hard to find not to mention they might be "blacklisted" due to being a miniature pitbull (they're not like a "pitbull" ) Its from people who dont know the difference between the breeds of pits who put the staffy's in that catagory.

[aussiegirl]

I'm not being closed minded...I love animals....pitbulls, poodles, kitties...you name it...YOU are the one who started this thread not wanting to hear from pitbull lovers

I started the thread to VENT, about a seven year old girl who lost half her face. I am not debating these fxxx dogs, we have had way to many threads on pitt bulls, you either love em or hate em. Personally, I think it would be a safer world without terrorists or pitbulls. It's that simple.

[aussiegirl]

I personally dont think its the breed but the owners of the dog. Aussiegirl, I wasnt trying to be mean or anything with my statement, I was just saying its not fair to dispise a certain race/breed.
Im currently trying to be the proud owner of a Staffordshire Bull Terrier but they're very hard to find not to mention they might be "blacklisted" due to being a miniature pitbull (they're not like a "pitbull" ) Its from people who dont know the difference between the breeds of pits who put the staffy's in that catagory.

No, I didnt take it like you were trying to mean at all. I thought it was pretty funny. It did sound pretty bad. Thanks for putting me in check.

[aussiegirl]

no owner is gonna say they mistreated the dog(pittbull)which most due. you cant put a dog in a closed room alone,or lock it up and not interact with it and want it to love you

Why do you think most pitbull owners mistreat their dogs. You are saying in the above quote. "mistreated the dog(pitbull)which most due". Are YOU saying something about people that own pitbulls?
Hold your thought, I'm going to eat dinner

[lameduch27]

There was another pit bull attack today in my area. A 7-year old had part of her face taken off. But I am SO SURE THAT IT WAS THE OWNERS FAULT AND NOT THE FXXXXXX DOGS.
Please no one reply regarding how wonderful these piece of shit dogs are. Just send a check to the little girl so she doesnt have to go through life scared.

Ok...I have studying to do...keep on with your thread that nothing to do with your hate of a doggy...;)

[earnhardt1]

hopefully one day the haters will learn they can be wrong

[aussiegirl]

Ok...I have studying to do...keep on with your thread that nothing to do with your hate of a doggy...;)

whatcha studying? Have a good night. It's been fun. :) :)

[aussiegirl]

hopefully one day the haters will learn they can be wrong

Hopefully one day, pitbulls will be extinct. ;)

[earnhardt1]

Why do you think most pitbull owners mistreat their dogs. You are saying in the above quote. "mistreated the dog(pitbull)which most due". Are YOU saying something about people that own pitbulls?
Hold your thought, I'm going to eat dinner

ok this is my last comment for tonight i have to put my lil guy to bed...
do you read how many plp get them beacsue they are so called"cool" dogs.. these lil thugs get them to fight and then dont treat them right it is a known fact so YOU can stop with the whole YOU thing, i am saying there are ppl who dont deserve ANy animal but esp. a dog(pittbull or any)

[earnhardt1]

Hopefully one day, pitbulls will be extinct. ;)

the same for haters who dont know shit about the pittbull and the true nature of the dog,not just the talk and crap... but there are certain ppl who will never understand the love of an animal... guess ppl should start being killed off beacause they dont all deservee kids either

[aussiegirl]

ok this is my last comment for tonight i have to put my lil guy to bed...
do you read how many plp get them beacsue they are so called"cool" dogs.. these lil thugs get them to fight and then dont treat them right it is a known fact so YOU can stop with the whole YOU thing, i am saying there are ppl who dont deserve ANy animal but esp. a dog(pittbull or any)

That is why that breed is to far gone. They have been breed by people who want "cool" (I would have used the word "killer", but if you want we can say "cool") dogs. Now, I guess with your tone we arn't going on our roadtrip anymore. :( Have a good night. Hope the lil guy goes to sleep ok.
p.s. I bet you post one more time tonite:)
dont take things so personally- chill a little. I was just having fun. Oh, maybe that cuz Im drinking a margaretta. nite nite

[aussiegirl]

the same for haters who dont know shit about the pittbull and the true nature of the dog,not just the talk and crap... but there are certain ppl who will never understand the love of an animal... guess ppl should start being killed off beacause they dont all deservee kids either

WOW- thats a little over the top, dont you think?

[Njean31]

. Yea, your right I avoid pitbulls the same way I avoid, oh lets say serial killers.


you ain't the only one.

[DBackFan]

Hopefully one day, pitbulls will be extinct. ;)

I so totally agree with you here. It will happen too! More and more areas are banning the breed. I haven't seen any poodle banning cities.

[msginna]

poodles weren't bread to fight either lol

[stresseater]

I'm still waiting for a news story. I usually wonder what the kid was doing to the dog. I have seen it go down many times kids walking home from school walking by a fence and taunting the dogs on the other side. Then everyone is surprised when the dog attacks the kid. Just wondering what the case was here. :confused:

[MistyWolf]

Here is the news thread:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/wews/20070509/lo_wews/13285321


And here is what I have to say .. Here we go again! .. Can someone please stop this merry-go-round so I can get off?

[evrita]

Stupid people who breed should be killed off and I am glad you avoid serial killers because I can can BET my life on it you have walked by or up to a serial killer and not known it. Do you judge every book by its cover?

[DBackFan]

A family in Lorain is praying for a 7-year-old girl who was mauled by a pit bull, police said.

Police said Georgia Rice was playing at a friend's house when she got tangled in the dog's chain that was attached to a tree in the back yard.

The dog bit off chunks of the girl's face, officials said.

She was taken to an area hospital. The girl had surgery on her face and is in fair condition.

The pit bull's owner gave the county custody of the animal. It will likely be euthanized.


So so sad :(

[owl_cat]

the last link posted states she got tangled in the dog's chain - you cannot keep a large dog chained up or confined to a small backyard and expect it to be tame and gentle. my cousin had a rottweiler he kept on a chain in his backyard he never bothered with that had to be put down because it became vicious in that situation. a friend of mine has a rottweiler, and it's the friendliest dog you could hope to meet because it's not confined and she takes time to interact with the dog. (i know this post is abotu pitbulls, but rottweilers tend to have the same reputation.) it is terrible when children are attacked, but it's really up to the parents to educate their children on how to approach a dog and realize if the dog is happy, angry, etc., to supervise their children around dogs they are not familiar with, and to teach them not to hit/tease any dog. i do think, because of the types of people who are taking pitbulls as pets, there should be some type of application process to go through to help lower the number of irresponsible people owning such powerful dogs and training them to fight or just leaving them pinned up.

[MistyWolf]

Parents should educate their kids (and I am not saying this is the fact in this case cause I have no idea if the parents educated this poor little girl or not). I often walk my dog to the school to get my kids and when other kids pet him a lot of the kids will ask first can I pet your dog and what is his name? .. And before anyone asks, no he isn't a pitt, but that isn't the point I am trying to make.

[evrita]

Parents should educate their kids (and I am not saying this is the fact in this case cause I have no idea if the parents educated this poor little girl or not). I often walk my dog to the school to get my kids and when other kids pet him a lot of the kids will ask first can I pet your dog and what is his name? .. And before anyone asks, no he isn't a pitt, but that isn't the point I am trying to make.

Funny you know we will have kids run up to Ali and want to pet her and if the kid cant talk the parent will does she bite and I will say not normally but she might scratch or lick you to death. Most parents will grab their child if it comes running to my dog and I keep her leashed and when i see her around other dogs I short leash her because I dont know what she will do.

[MistyWolf]

I keep Reilly short leashed as well when I have him at the school .. and if too many kids have their hands trying to pet him, I always stick my hand on his face towards my leg. I don't want him to get scared .. I don't think he will, but you never know. I have kids and parents as well asking if he bites.

[janelle]

I know of a mastiff who is kept in a small yard and is a gentle giant. He could jump the fence and kill little animals but he stays in the yard. When people walk by they talk to him and he comes over to the fence and leans on it to be petted. They are not as hyper as a pitt.

BUT I also know dogs are territorial so they can and will defend their place and owners if they feel threatened.

Of course,, owners think their dog is nice and wouldn't hurt anyone. The dog never would act aggressive toward the owner but would try to kill an intruder. That is their nature, to protect the pack.

I still say own a dog who might cause a scar on a child's face and not one who can take it off or kill.

[evrita]

Ateention all horse owners and any other large animal owners now hear this because it can take off your childs face you must not own it. Shoot it now shoot anything that can harm your child.

[earnhardt1]

WOW- thats a little over the top, dont you think?

no i dont think my comment is over the top,there are ppl who dont derserve a worm let alone take care of a child
do you know how many animals turn because they are abused? same reason ppl grow up to be serial killers and rapists and child abusers.

[MistyWolf]

Just seen this story on the morning news. The yard the dog was kept in looks very unkept (has one of those plastic igloo looking dog houses) and no fence around the yard. They still haven't decided whether or not to put the dog down.

Didn't say how the girl was doing, just that she had injuries to her face and neck.

[lameduch27]

do you know how many animals turn because they are abused? same reason ppl grow up to be serial killers and rapists and child abusers.

Exactly...when serial killers, rapists and child abusers are caught...what's the first thing the authorities do?...check into their childhood, how they were raised, if they were abused....most were.

[freeby4me]

Just seen this story on the morning news. The yard the dog was kept in looks very unkept (has one of those plastic igloo looking dog houses) and no fence around the yard. They still haven't decided whether or not to put the dog down.

Didn't say how the girl was doing, just that she had injuries to her face and neck.

Again, that sounds like the Owner and not the dog is at fault. I personally am scared of Pitbulls and Rotties but I would NEVER wish anything ill on the animals.

[mosdata1]

I have 2 dogs, an ACD & a Shepard/chow mix, both well trained. When walking my dogs, & people ask me if they bite, I tell them so far they haven't, but they are dogs, and you never really know how they will react. I have never had them lunge at anyone, and believe that I can predict their reposnes very well, but choose to not take chances. Both love people & children, but every once in a while, someone will walk past me & they will both start to growl (I trust their instincts better than my own0. I never leave them around children unattended (except my own).

I pray that child heals quickly & well, and is not too scarred mentally.

[lameduch27]

Last I saw she was stable. Poor baby will be scarred for life and will probably be scared of dogs for the rest of her life. I couldn't imagine going through that as an adult, let alone being a 7 year od baby.

[earnhardt1]

my little cousin was attacked by her babysitters pittbull and it went for her face 3 days of surgery adn now she has very few scars....but the pitt was treated very wrong it was fed raw meat and gun powder,chained in a room,and whatever else......this was 17 years ago but my point mistreating the animal is asking for trouble. the pitt in the case broke out of the room it was kept in and attacked my cousin while she was sleeping on the couch

[Pepsi4me]

my little cousin was attacked by her babysitters pittbull and it went for her face 3 days of surgery adn now she has very few scars....but the pitt was treated very wrong it was fed raw meat and gun powder,chained in a room,and whatever else......this was 17 years ago but my point mistreating the animal is asking for trouble. the pitt in the case broke out of the room it was kept in and attacked my cousin while she was sleeping on the couch


Im sorry but if I knew the dog was mistreated I would never allow my child to be around that dog let alone have the owner babysit my child in their home with the dog there.

[PrincessArky]

love em or hate them how about sending your thoughts and prayers to this little girl and her family

[earnhardt1]

Im sorry but if I knew the dog was mistreated I would never allow my child to be around that dog let alone have the owner babysit my child in their home with the dog there.


no one knew about the dog unitl after it happened that was why they would hide the dog from my aunt

[aussiegirl]

no one knew about the dog unitl after it happened that was why they would hide the dog from my aunt

Did your Aunt sue the hell out of the women. First thing I ask people when I go to someones home (if I have never been there before) if they have a dog and what kind.

[cutie76]

I am praying for this poor little girl. I myself own 3 pittbulls but I dont let all the neighborhood kids in my backyard to play unless my dogs know them really well. All of my dogs are very gentle and loving ofcourse that is because we dont mistreat them. I am also a firm believer in it is all about how you raise them. I agree with whoever said you cant just chain them up and not take care of them and expect them to be gentle ofcourse they are going to turn mean!! That said when I was a kid my dog attacked the little girl next door...and he was a schnauzer of however you spell it and ripped her face apart....but her and her sister used to tease him through the fence!! One day we went out there to play and he knocked her down on the slide and just went for her face. Now he wasnt a big dog and that just shows what a smaller dog can do too if it is teased through the fence. We ended up having to put him down because my brother and I couldnt even go in the backyard anymore because he became mean!

[Njean31]

First thing I ask people when I go to someones home (if I have never been there before) if they have a dog and what kind.

yeah, me too. i work for hospice and go to many different people's homes. we always put an alert on the main sheet that everyone gets if the family has dogs. i've never encountered a pitt at anyone's house, but i think i would refuse to go if someone had one. they'd have to get rid of the dog or atleast put it far away when i visited.

[aussiegirl]

yeah, me too. i work for hospice and go to many different people's homes. we always put an alert on the main sheet that everyone gets if the family has dogs. i've never encountered a pitt at anyone's house, but i think i would refuse to go if someone had one. they'd have to get rid of the dog or atleast put it far away when i visited.

ITA

[evrita]

Shoot them all every damn one of the evil thing heck why not start a new rage if someone looks evil just shoot em if a dog looks scary lets shoot them if a bird poops on you shoot the damn thing if a cat scratched you shoot it if someone looks at you wrong SHOOT THEM.

[pepperpot]

Shoot them all every damn one of the evil thing heck why not start a new rage if someone looks evil just shoot em if a dog looks scary lets shoot them if a bird poops on you shoot the damn thing if a cat scratched you shoot it if someone looks at you wrong SHOOT THEM.

See, if we ban guns, then this couldn't happen either........:p


j/k

[freeby4me]

See, if we ban guns, then this couldn't happen either........:p


j/k

:eek: lol

[aussiegirl]

Shoot them all every damn one of the evil thing heck why not start a new rage if someone looks evil just shoot em if a dog looks scary lets shoot them if a bird poops on you shoot the damn thing if a cat scratched you shoot it if someone looks at you wrong SHOOT THEM.

Now your talking. Evrita for President

[earnhardt1]

i think this is crazy a poor lil girl is hurt and all ppl can do is blame the dog.... blame THE OWNER and where were her parents? im sorry but my son does not play outside alone and he is almost 8, as a matter of fact he just got done feeding katie(the loving pittbull next door)

[msginna]

wow I see some people here that say their dogs are nice and so on. That is not the norm... these dogs were bread to fight and kill. I think, yes I THINK ie. MY opinion. is yes these dogs need to be put down. I personally have known of at least 4 dogs that were treated like ANGELS and they snapped. It is in their breed. If you take a wild animal and raise it and it might be ok, or it might turn on you and follow its insticts. I know you love your animals as do I . But, just because yours hasn't snapped doesn't mean that good raising is the key to these dogs being non violent. I do think people need to teach their kids about animals that aren't theirs, not just because most dogs could bite a stranger , but some dogs could kill.........


****my sis in law had 2 and a friend had 2 all were treated as queens (and one king)

[DBackFan]

wow I see some people here that say their dogs are nice and so on. That is not the norm... these dogs were bread to fight and kill. I think, yes I THINK ie. MY opinion. is yes these dogs need to be put down. I personally have known of at least 4 dogs that were treated like ANGELS and they snapped. It is in their breed. If you take a wild animal and raise it and it might be ok, or it might turn on you and follow its insticts. I know you love your animals as do I . But, just because yours hasn't snapped doesn't mean that good raising is the key to these dogs being non violent. I do think people need to teach their kids about animals that aren't theirs, not just because most dogs could bite a stranger , but some dogs could kill.........


****my sis in law had 2 and a friend had 2 all were treated as queens (and one king)


Thank you msginna....a woman here who makes sense!

[Willow]

A year or so ago I posted an article about a man that was killed by his best friend (his pit bull) and his family and neighbors were shocked because they said that it was a nice, friendly dog and they never would have expected that to happen. The dog all of a sudden turned on him for no apparent reason. I read somewhere that pit bulls have a tendency to have "springer rage". I'm not exactly sure what it is or how they get it but it's supposed to be some type of neurological condition where the dog gets confused and attacks and then goes back to normal again.

[owl_cat]

all pet animals are bred from the wild, so any pet could turn at any time. my mom had a cocatoo of all things that attacked me when i was younger. the bird clawed/bit one place on my shoulder so bad i almost ended up with stitches. i had a hamster who was fine, then one day latched onto my hand and wouldn't let go. it took us five minutes to get it off, and i have a scar now. we had a shitzu who was vicious, and i knew a lady who had a poodle that tried to attack anyone who came near her. both dogs ended up being put down. it's not just pits and rots, they're just the ones you hear about most due to their size and the way some are mistreated.

[aussiegirl]

wow I see some people here that say their dogs are nice and so on. That is not the norm... these dogs were bread to fight and kill. I think, yes I THINK ie. MY opinion. is yes these dogs need to be put down. I personally have known of at least 4 dogs that were treated like ANGELS and they snapped. It is in their breed. If you take a wild animal and raise it and it might be ok, or it might turn on you and follow its insticts. I know you love your animals as do I . But, just because yours hasn't snapped doesn't mean that good raising is the key to these dogs being non violent. I do think people need to teach their kids about animals that aren't theirs, not just because most dogs could bite a stranger , but some dogs could kill.........


****my sis in law had 2 and a friend had 2 all were treated as queens (and one king)


very well said

[aussiegirl]

A year or so ago I posted an article about a man that was killed by his best friend (his pit bull) and his family and neighbors were shocked because they said that it was a nice, friendly dog and they never would have expected that to happen. The dog all of a sudden turned on him for no apparent reason. I read somewhere that pit bulls have a tendency to have "springer rage". I'm not exactly sure what it is or how they get it but it's supposed to be some type of neurological condition where the dog gets confused and attacks and then goes back to normal again.

very well said

[aussiegirl]

i think this is crazy a poor lil girl is hurt and all ppl can do is blame the dog.... blame THE OWNER and where were her parents? im sorry but my son does not play outside alone and he is almost 8, as a matter of fact he just got done feeding katie(the loving pittbull next door)

Hey, do you think If I could get you a lion cub and you raised it with loving care, it would be a social lion?

[earnhardt1]

a pittbull is not a wild animal it is a dog.... D O G... family pet
comparing a lion to a dog is not the same

[janelle]

It's sad when an eight year old can't play outside alone.

When I was little we had neighbors who had two boxers. One day my brother and I went into their yard to ask if their son could play. The one boxer took me down and growled in my face. The owner came to the door and yelled at it so it stopped. You can be sure we didn't go into their yard ever again.

Now I am wondering if it had been a pitbull I may have had been injured really bad with scars today to show for it. Kids need to stay away from big dogs.

I use to talk to the dogs through the fence and the son use to open his gate and let the dogs run in our yard to be funny at times but his parents got on him for doing it. One time I was on the swing and one ran under it. It threw me up in the air really high but I held on and wasn't thrown off.

But I played in my neighborhood and was never afraid of dogs. When I saw big dogs we left them alone. AND we never had the trouble these pitbulls are today. I don't think we had them. :confused:

Are they being breed more now for being cool dogs? People who have them need to keep them in their yard. They are attacking even adults so of course we are all afraid of them.

[andreame70]

Here are some facts, not just statistics or speculation. The author of this study tracked dog attack deaths and maimings in the US and Canada from Sept. of 1982 to Nov. 13 2006. In those 24 years that he followed every single incident of attack, he documented the breed, # of attacks that caused bodily harm, the number of those that were children, the number that were adults, how many resulted in death and how many resulted in maimings. This is what he found:

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Attacks%201982%20to%202006%20Clifton.pdf
The numbers speak for themselves.

Andrea

[aussiegirl]

Here are some facts, not just statistics or speculation. The author of this study tracked dog attack deaths and maimings in the US and Canada from Sept. of 1982 to Nov. 13 2006. In those 24 years that he followed every single incident of attack, he documented the breed, # of attacks that caused bodily harm, the number of those that were children, the number that were adults, how many resulted in death and how many resulted in maimings. This is what he found:

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Attacks%201982%20to%202006%20Clifton.pdf
The numbers speak for themselves.

Andrea

Guess that says it all. Yes, all dogs can bite and harm people. But the pitbull does it a hell of alot more.

[DBackFan]

Wow Andrea! THAT is an amazing piece of information and YES the numbers speak VOLUMES!

[MistyWolf]

all pet animals are bred from the wild, so any pet could turn at any time. my mom had a cocatoo of all things that attacked me when i was younger. the bird clawed/bit one place on my shoulder so bad i almost ended up with stitches. i had a hamster who was fine, then one day latched onto my hand and wouldn't let go. it took us five minutes to get it off, and i have a scar now. we had a shitzu who was vicious, and i knew a lady who had a poodle that tried to attack anyone who came near her. both dogs ended up being put down. it's not just pits and rots, they're just the ones you hear about most due to their size and the way some are mistreated.

Exactly!

[evrita]

OH NO I better go load my gun my dog had a high number on that list :p Wait the neighbor looked at me funny today and thay bluejay ate too much bird food SHOOT EM ALL

[PrincessArky]

wow lots of interesting facts

[lameduch27]

Guess that says it all. Yes, all dogs can bite and harm people. But the pitbull does it a hell of alot more.

Because, being born within the 'fighting dog' breed, born with extremely strong jaw muscles...so many IDIOTS acquire them, and TEACH them to to fight to win, be mean, agressive...IDIOTS do this.

[DestinysGrandma]

I was not going to post but, as i read i wonder if some people have read the news story about the little girl. She was playing with another child and her foot got wrapped in the dogs chain and the dog attacked her and BIT CHUNKS OFF HER FACE. The owner gave the dog up to be put down.

[freeby4me]

I was not going to post but, as i read i wonder if some people have read the news story about the little girl. She was playing with another child and her foot got wrapped in the dogs chain and the dog attacked her and BIT CHUNKS OFF HER FACE. The owner gave the dog up to be put down.

Why was she allowed to play right by a CHAINED up dog? Not a "leashed" dog but CHAINED. That says alot.

[earnhardt1]

AGAIN where were her parents????? or the owner? or was the dog babysitting

[aussiegirl]

Where was the local neighbor with a loaded 38 to shot the fxxn dog!!!!! If I witnessed something like that, I can promise you I would take pleasure in putting a bullet in that dogs head.

[DBackFan]

OH NO I better go load my gun my dog had a high number on that list :p Wait the neighbor looked at me funny today and thay bluejay ate too much bird food SHOOT EM ALL

tip toeing by evrita.....ssshhhhh...she is off her meds and has a loaded gun! :eek: :eek: :p :p

[aussiegirl]

tip toeing by evrita.....ssshhhhh...she is off her meds and has a loaded gun! :eek: :eek: :p :p

SO IS AUSSIE

[DBackFan]

SO IS AUSSIE

LMAO...for that matter so am I! Well the gun isn't loaded because of foster care but I sure as hell know where to find it if I ever see a Pitt anywhere near my property or my kids!

[aussiegirl]

AGAIN where were her parents????? or the owner? or was the dog babysitting

The parents were probably at home, she was at a friends house. I'm guessing there was an adult nearby or the child would probably be dead now, instead of just a piece of her face missing.

[Pepsi4me]

Here are some facts, not just statistics or speculation. The author of this study tracked dog attack deaths and maimings in the US and Canada from Sept. of 1982 to Nov. 13 2006. In those 24 years that he followed every single incident of attack, he documented the breed, # of attacks that caused bodily harm, the number of those that were children, the number that were adults, how many resulted in death and how many resulted in maimings. This is what he found:

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Attacks%201982%20to%202006%20Clifton.pdf
The numbers speak for themselves.

Andrea



Amazing info!




Proof that pitbulls/pitbull mix do attack more than any other breed.

[Njean31]

Where was the local neighbor with a loaded 38 to shot the fxxn dog!!!!! If I witnessed something like that, I can promise you I would take pleasure in putting a bullet in that dogs head.

me too! and they could fine me or put me in jail after the fact......i wouldn't give a shit as long as the dog was dead and the kid was alive. i've seen them in action, nothing but a bullet will stop them when they are in fight mode, or the prey is dead, or they just give out i guess.

[evrita]

Do you know why there are no reports of killer poodles who really wants to tell someone they were killed by a poodle???? I posted in the last killer Pitbull thread about a small dog that killed someone and you guys laughed me off ha ha ha that was like 6 years ago big deal. It is nature of the beast dogs kill humans kill and people go off their meds and kill.

After the fact we sit back and get pissed and ask why this happened. How many times did someone walk by that damn dog CHAINED and not report the owners? How many people leave babies alone in cars on hot days or dogs and dont report it. How mnay people see a parent treat the kid like crap and dont report it. How many kids in school get bullied to the point where they walk in the school and start shooting people.

We live in a screwed up world people if it is a pitt who turned because some jackass had the dog and shouldnt be having animals and heck if they have kids i say they should be removed from the home and then have the parents put down and shot for breathing air and being stupid.

If you own an animal dont be an idiot if you have a child talk to them and ask them ow their day went and school and dont accecpt the ahh it was ok you know the same things.

Also SHOOT EM ALL :p

[earnhardt1]

i just posted a link yesterday about several small horrible dogs but no one cared about that

[Pepsi4me]

i just posted a link yesterday about several small horrible dogs but no one cared about that



Where's the link?

[freeby4me]

i just posted a link yesterday about several small horrible dogs but no one cared about that

Me Me! I read it. Sorry if I didnt comment, it was quite interesting and helpful.

[earnhardt1]

lol

[earnhardt1]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A64465-2002Dec16
http://katzdawgs.tripod.com/attacks.htm
http://www.igorilla.com/gorilla/animal/2000/dog_kills_baby_los_angeles.html

here it is

[Pepsi4me]

After the fact we sit back and get pissed and ask why this happened. How many times did someone walk by that damn dog CHAINED and not report the owners?


Since when is illegal to have a dog chained in your backyard?

[DestinysGrandma]

i just posted a link yesterday about several small horrible dogs but no one cared about that

I read this too. A lot of times i don't post for many reasons. Don't have time, cooking dinner, don't think people want my opinion.....i care, i love dogs. I love kids too.

[freeby4me]

Since when is illegal to have a dog chained in your backyard?

I dont think its illegal anywhere. Its just not good to have a dog Chained all the time, thats more about what we're talking about. Its usually those dogs who turn very mean. (and the ones running UN-leashed)

[aussiegirl]

here it is

Yea, Yea, I read them also. Your right, other dogs can be harmful but looked at the stats. Pit Bulls are by far the WORST. They are vicious. Funny thing, I was just at Softball practice with my dd and I spoke to a cop regarding vicious dogs. Said he doesnt worry about them, since he would put a bullet in the dogs head. Even cops dont want to mess with pitts.

[msginna]

compairing a wild lion to a pit is the same well maybe not so much on lions part. With a raised lion you know that it could attack and with a pit there is so much of "it is the owners fault the dog did this" that some seem to have BLINDERS on about the breed. Forget it is in there blood.... forget their past.... and continue to put pits in to a regular dog catagory. And I will quote myself


" But, just because yours hasn't snapped doesn't mean that good raising is the key to these dogs being non violent. I do think people need to teach their kids about animals that aren't theirs, not just because most dogs could bite a stranger , but some dogs could kill........."


there are the facts that these "dogs" were bread to be violent. That will never change no matter how much loving you give your pit. There visciousness will not go away because you love your dog..... These dogs will continue to kill and continue to be violent until we do something. I think we as a society are slowly but surely taking care of it. It is sad that they were bread like that on purpose period....

[Njean31]

compairing a wild lion to a pit is the same well maybe not so much on lions part. With a raised lion you know that it could attack and with a pit there is so much of "it is the owners fault the dog did this" that some seem to have BLINDERS on about the breed. Forget it is in there blood.... forget their past.... and continue to put pits in to a regular dog catagory. And I will quote myself


" But, just because yours hasn't snapped doesn't mean that good raising is the key to these dogs being non violent. I do think people need to teach their kids about animals that aren't theirs, not just because most dogs could bite a stranger , but some dogs could kill........."


there are the facts that these "dogs" were bread to be violent. That will never change no matter how much loving you give your pit. There visciousness will not go away because you love your dog..... These dogs will continue to kill and continue to be violent until we do something. I think we as a society are slowly but surely taking care of it. It is sad that they were bread like that on purpose period....

how did you put my words into your writing??????????? ITA

[freeby4me]

True....Pits were bred to fight Lions and Bears....and Staffy's were bred because regular pits killed the lions and bears too fast, the smaller dogs kept the "games" going longer :rolleyes:

I personally feel like its not the dogs fault now-a-days. MOST of these attacks are from bad training of the dogs. If you are a master and have control of your animal properly and they are trained then you run a minimal risk of something happening. Any animal is a danger in the wrong hands (ie bad owner) just like a gun....or even a book (giving someone an "idea")

I think enforcing animal laws and making better ones would be alot better than banning certain animals. There are many animals that are big babies no matter what the breed. Just my thoughts though.....

[lameduch27]

I'd also like to see the living conditions of the dog in this case. Personally, I hate to see a dog chained. IMO, their social interaction is highly reduced when they are chained. Who knows how much this dog had. Add to that, kids running around, squealing little girl voices, and then this poor baby getting tangled up in it's chain...I would also think this dog probably felt attacked at that point (and I am in NO WAY saying it was that baby's fault). I watch those Animal Cop shows, and they encounter dogs (all types) chained, emaciated, and 'vicious' all the time. Dehydration alone can cause any animal, including humans, to become delirious and confused. But, most of the time, I will go as high as say 98% of the time, these same dogs are rehabilitated with just their basic needs being met...food, water, and love. So, I have to wonder about how much of his basic needs were met.

[Vixen]

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/OtherBreedBites/2005/June2005/Poodleremainsvicious0605.pdf

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/OtherBreedBites/2005/August2005/GAIncident0805.pdf

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/OtherBreedBites/2006/Februrary2006/Bulldog0206.pdf

http://thepoodleanddogblog.typepad.com/the_poodle_and_dog_blog/2006/04/tiny_pomeranian.html

[freeby4me]

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/OtherBreedBites/2005/June2005/Poodleremainsvicious0605.pdf

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/OtherBreedBites/2005/August2005/GAIncident0805.pdf

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/OtherBreedBites/2006/Februrary2006/Bulldog0206.pdf

http://thepoodleanddogblog.typepad.com/the_poodle_and_dog_blog/2006/04/tiny_pomeranian.html

Those are quite interesting as well. The first one definately has a problem. The last one, the pomeranian just goes to show you that it doesnt matter the size or breed. The owners probably let the dog do whatever and PROBABLY never disciplined it.

[MistyWolf]

Since when is illegal to have a dog chained in your backyard?

It may not be illegal to chain your dog in the backyard, but it's immoral when you arent taking care of that dog and just leaving it chained up outside. When I lived in AZ the ppl behind us left there dog out in the hot sun all day and the Sheriff's said the couldn't do anything about it .. it was very very sad. The dog actually dug a huge pit to try to keep cool! Do you ever watch animal rescue shows on Animal Planet? .. They show horrible conditions of dogs who are just left outside chained and damn near starving, covered in ticks and fleas. It sickens me .. not just anyone should be able to own a pet, just like not just anyone should be able to have kids!

[aussiegirl]

True....Pits were bred to fight Lions and Bears....and Staffy's were bred because regular pits killed the lions and bears too fast, the smaller dogs kept the "games" going longer :rolleyes:

I personally feel like its not the dogs fault now-a-days. MOST of these attacks are from bad training of the dogs. If you are a master and have control of your animal properly and they are trained then you run a minimal risk of something happening. Any animal is a danger in the wrong hands (ie bad owner) just like a gun....or even a book (giving someone an "idea")

I think enforcing animal laws and making better ones would be alot better than banning certain animals. There are many animals that are big babies no matter what the breed. Just my thoughts though.....

Bad Training? Isn't bad training when a dog poops and pees in the house, chews shoes and toys, can't walk on a leash without pulling. Well, at least thats I think bad training is, not taking peoples lives.

[MistyWolf]

Bad Training? Isn't bad training when a dog poops and pees in the house, chews shoes and toys, can't walk on a leash without pulling. Well, at least thats I think bad training is, not taking peoples lives.

Bad training is not just a dog pooping and peeing in the house, chewing shoes and toys. I don't have a "mean vicious" dog and I took him to dog training because he was wild, jumping all over, chasing the kids (he's part collie and they "herd" things (the kids) like they were little sheep .. lol .. Anyway, he was taught respect in obedience school and that I am his owner, he is not mine. Dogs look at us as big dogs and I showed mine that I am the leader of the pack.

There is a lot more to owning a dog than just house breaking him.

Shouldn't you be sleeping Aussiegirl? ;)

And Lameduch, I seen the house this dog lived at (the yard) and they weren't good conditions at all.

[msginna]

you can't take the wild or meaness out of pits you may be able to surpress it for a while... as did the owners that I new. But the true nature of the breed can come out and hurt and kill, and have NOTHING to do with ownership. I see that MOSTELY. Of course you do see the occational bad owner. But that isn't the norm. and we can vent and we can rant how they are treated wrong and are good loving animals. But it doesn't change the facts. I do feel bad for those pit owners that have never been violent and think the breed is unfairly treated. I feel soooooo bad that they were ever bread and I hope the people that bread them to fight are not in a good place now. My SIL didn't like putting "her babies" down. She had no choice though. I guess I can't comment enough about the nature, biological nature this breed has. you can talk about poodles all ya want, the facts are out there and these dogs are dangerous. and you can say how cruel everyone is for not liking these teddy bears. well, they are banning them slowly but surely. and hopefully we can rectify what earlier man has messed with!

[killbarney]

You CANNOT ignore the fact that the viscousness is inbred in pits. It is to a lesser degree inbred in other breeds as well, but the pit has the unfortunate problem of being a major killer-between the jaws designed to never let go, the muscles, and the plain killer instinct this dog is a killer and always will be.

Arguing with those facts is useless, I'm sorry. Certain dogs were bred for certain things and will ALWAYS be that way. You cannot breed it out of them.

Examples of what I'm talking about certain traits being inborn and unchangeable for a breed as a WHOLE:

Chihuaha's-yippy and hyper

Bloodhounds-tracking dogs

Retrievers-bred for hunting

Sheepdogs-inbred sense of herding anything, including kids ;)

ETC

Most all fighting dogs were ALL selectively bred to....FIGHT TO THE DEATH. It's the ONE trait that they must have and unfortunately the one trait the pit has an over abundance of. While all animals have the ability to bite/attack, fighting dogs are doing one thing, and one thing only-trying to KILL what they are attacking. And pits are like alligators-when they clamp down, they don't let go, they are built so that it's damned near impossible to MAKE them.

How many of you that have pits around your children would let an alligator loose in your home? A pit viper? A black bear? A white tiger? A scorpion? A tarantula? A 10 foot python? These are pets, too-and a lot of people swear they aren't dangerous.

[YankeeMary]

You CANNOT ignore the fact that the viscousness is inbred in pits. It is to a lesser degree inbred in other breeds as well, but the pit has the unfortunate problem of being a major killer-between the jaws designed to never let go, the muscles, and the plain killer instinct this dog is a killer and always will be.

Arguing with those facts is useless, I'm sorry. Certain dogs were bred for certain things and will ALWAYS be that way. You cannot breed it out of them.

Examples of what I'm talking about certain traits being inborn and unchangeable for a breed as a WHOLE:

Chihuaha's-yippy and hyper

Bloodhounds-tracking dogs

Retrievers-bred for hunting

Sheepdogs-inbred sense of herding anything, including kids ;)

ETC

Most all fighting dogs were ALL selectively bred to....FIGHT TO THE DEATH. It's the ONE trait that they must have and unfortunately the one trait the pit has an over abundance of. While all animals have the ability to bite/attack, fighting dogs are doing one thing, and one thing only-trying to KILL what they are attacking. And pits are like alligators-when they clamp down, they don't let go, they are built so that it's damned near impossible to MAKE them.

How many of you that have pits around your children would let an alligator loose in your home? A pit viper? A black bear? A white tiger? A scorpion? A tarantula? A 10 foot python? These are pets, too-and a lot of people swear they aren't dangerous.

We had a "pet" tarantula. He stayed in his cage unless I was there and the boys or I had on welding gloves...lol.


I do not want my children to be around a pittbull of any kind at any time. Thats just my preferance. I am not saying to kill them off, I just choose not to have my kids around them. When my boys were young their personal wrestling coach had 2 pitts. They were huge slobbering babies, to this day to the best of my knowledge they have never hurt anyone. Back then I didn't know a pitt from a poodle..lol. But I was totally clueless of the damage these dogs are able to cause. Had I known, there is no way we would have ever been at that mans house, especially with him wrestling around with my kids. I just thank God that those 2 dogs didn't decide that my kids were trying to hurt their master, God only knows what the out come would have been. I shudder just thinking about it. I truly don't know the answer to the problem of the pitts, I feel sorry for the owners that love their dogs but I feel more sorry for the parents of young children that are being attacked and killed by this breed. I am just thankful that I am not the one that has to decide to kill off the breed or not. The only thing I know to do is keep my kids from them and keep my dogs in their own yard and pray that no ones pitt is able to get in our fence and hurt our dogs.

[Quaker_Parrots]

Do you know why there are no reports of killer poodles who really wants to tell someone they were killed by a poodle????

I hate to tell you, but dead men tell no tales. If they were killed by a poodle, they aren't telling anybody.....

[earnhardt1]

place blame where blame belongs and that is with the damn owners taht dont treat animals the right way.... again... "cleaned the shotgun so the next thime that rabid chipmunk walks by i can shoot it"

[freeby4me]

I hate to tell you, but dead men tell no tales. If they were killed by a poodle, they aren't telling anybody.....

LOL I can see it now "225 pound man killed by viscous poodle" ....not the typical headline for sure.
As far as being properly trained, I've been reading up on the Staffordshire Bull Terriers and how to properly train them and that means obedience training and all sorts of stuff. What I notice as one of the problems is people seem to think pits are "cool" so they run right out and buy them or they're good "defense" dogs so "hurry hurry I need one now" and they give no thought on what kind of dogs they actually are, If treated PROPERLY and trained (obedience) then YES they can be big babies and another member of your family.

It just hurts me inside when I hear people wanting to ban "pits" because the dog I wish to have is "put in the catagory" unfairly. If anyone is actually interested I'll post some info (good or bad) about the Staffy's.

[Pepsi4me]

I dont like Pitbulls or Rottwelliers(sp?). Especially PitBullls because they are very unpredictable. There are just too many cases where they attack for no apparant reason.


My bro-in-law has 3 Rottwelliers that he has has for yrs then one day 2 gang up on & killed it.

These dogs were treated like babies & in the house most of the time.

[Pepsi4me]

place blame where blame belongs and that is with the damn owners taht dont treat animals the right way.... again... "cleaned the shotgun so the next thime that rabid chipmunk walks by i can shoot it"



I think people are saying that it's not really blaming anyone but just how the breed was raised from the beginning. They were breed to fight way back then & its in their blood & instinct. They can be treated like the best pet in the world but they are wired that way from birth/from heritage.


When people start to realize this then maybe less people will be hurt or killed by this breed.


Its the owners responsibility to do research & realize that Pitbulls were breed from the start to be fighting dogs & nothing can change that no matter how well you treat them their is always the chance that the instinct will kick in. Then someone or another animal will be hurt or killed.


It's the owners decision to own an animal that may or may not turn at any moment.
I would never take that chance that I could be responsible for someone being seriously injured or killed.




Again it's the way Pitbulls started out & it's still in their blood/instinct so its nothing anyone can change even with all the love in the world.

[pepperpot]

I'd also like to see the living conditions of the dog in this case. Personally, I hate to see a dog chained. IMO, their social interaction is highly reduced when they are chained. Who knows how much this dog had. Add to that, kids running around, squealing little girl voices, and then this poor baby getting tangled up in it's chain...I would also think this dog probably felt attacked at that point (and I am in NO WAY saying it was that baby's fault). I watch those Animal Cop shows, and they encounter dogs (all types) chained, emaciated, and 'vicious' all the time. Dehydration alone can cause any animal, including humans, to become delirious and confused. But, most of the time, I will go as high as say 98% of the time, these same dogs are rehabilitated with just their basic needs being met...food, water, and love. So, I have to wonder about how much of his basic needs were met.


Hmm....I better go drink some water....

:p

[lameduch27]

Hmm....I better go drink some water....

:p

lol...HURRY!

[cathych]

Where I live it most definately illegal to have a dog chained in your backyard. You have to have him fenced. The dog cannot be chained or tied in any way.

[evrita]

So what your saying let me get this right is kill off the breed right because if it is evil to begin with then it has no right to live. So if a woman was raped by an inmate or a rapist or a murderer then that baby has no right to live because the father was an evil SOB and then therefore that child is BRED to be evil it is in its genes right ???

Parrot person you are so right forgive me oh wise one dead man tell no tale but heck this board will sure tell the tale of what happend. it wont be a killer poodle it will be a pittbull instead just to hype up the story and make it sound good.

As I said before SHOOT THEM ALL !!

[MistyWolf]

So what your saying let me get this right is kill off the breed right because if it is evil to begin with then it has no right to live. So if a woman was raped by an inmate or a rapist or a murderer then that baby has no right to live because the father was an evil SOB and then therefore that child is BRED to be evil it is in its genes right ???



Flame away, but I totally agree with you on this Evrita! .. You made a very good point.

[aussiegirl]

So what your saying let me get this right is kill off the breed right because if it is evil to begin with then it has no right to live. So if a woman was raped by an inmate or a rapist or a murderer then that baby has no right to live because the father was an evil SOB and then therefore that child is BRED to be evil it is in its genes right ???

Parrot person you are so right forgive me oh wise one dead man tell no tale but heck this board will sure tell the tale of what happend. it wont be a killer poodle it will be a pittbull instead just to hype up the story and make it sound good.

As I said before SHOOT THEM ALL !!

OBJECTION! You are getting alittle carried away here. People and animals are different. People were not breed to be killers. Pitt bulls were it is the way it is, that is truth. I dont care if you love them, have 15 of them, they were originally breed to kill to the death. End of story. People go bad.

[PrincessArky]

Ppl have lobbied in the past to have laws passed to protect children from pedaphiles (sorry have NO idea how to spell lol), rapists and just plain freaks of the world........so why don't all the ppl that have a problem with pits just go and start lobbying your local and state officals to do something about the problem. It is easy to sit on the net and complain takes a much stronger person to actually get up and do something about it

[aussiegirl]

I Hate Pitt Bulls And Everyone Of You Pitt Bull Lovers Why Don't You Get A Box Of Cards And Send One To Each And Every Child Or Adult That Is Attacked This Year And Explain To Them That It Was Not The Fxxxin Dogs Fault But The Owners. I Will Do The Same For All Attacks Made By Poodles And Other Dogs Not Breed To Kill

[aussiegirl]

Ppl have lobbied in the past to have laws passed to protect children from pedaphiles (sorry have NO idea how to spell lol), rapists and just plain freaks of the world........so why don't all the ppl that have a problem with pits just go and start lobbying your local and state officals to do something about the problem. It is easy to sit on the net and complain takes a much stronger person to actually get up and do something about it

Actually I have. I live in a city were pitt bulls are not allowed. When a neighbor moved in down the street with one, I called my councilmen and had the fxxsn thing taken away.

[pepperpot]

I got me some water because I just keep seeing these 'dejavu' postings.....:confused:


Dehydration alone can cause any animal, including humans, to become delirious and confused.

Why don't we all have some water....there's a 'dehydration' epidemic! :eek:

[PrincessArky]

Actually I have. I live in a city were pitt bulls are not allowed. When a neighbor moved in down the street with one, I called my councilmen and had the fxxsn thing taken away.

good for you, I gotta love anyone that is true to their convictions :)

[aussiegirl]

good for you, I gotta love anyone that is true to their convictions :)

You have no idea how true I am to my convictions and always have been. Probably what gets me in trouble.

[PrincessArky]

You have no idea how true I am to my convictions and always have been. Probably what gets me in trouble.

better to get in trouble for what you believe in rather just being a pain lol I know there are times that something hits me really hard and I won't back down and it sort of embarrasses my hubby but I don't really care :)

[evrita]

I Hate Pitt Bulls And Everyone Of You Pitt Bull Lovers Why Don't You Get A Box Of Cards And Send One To Each And Every Child Or Adult That Is Attacked This Year And Explain To Them That It Was Not The Fxxxin Dogs Fault But The Owners. I Will Do The Same For All Attacks Made By Poodles And Other Dogs Not Breed To Kill

So did a dog bite you in a past life is that why you dont like them ??

Exteme NO people can be evil and they are BORN evil so you didnt answer my question shall we just kill them off before they coome into this world???

[aussiegirl]

So did a dog bite you in a past life is that why you dont like them ??

Exteme NO people can be evil and they are BORN evil so you didnt answer my question shall we just kill them off before they coome into this world???

Nope, never been bitten by a dog in my life. I was also never sexual molested but I dont like Sexual molesters either. Should I give them a chance?

[DBackFan]

Actually this thread just made me write a letter to the editor of our local paper. The idea has been tossed around in the past on banning pit bulls here and now I want to gather the strength and support to GET IT DONE. The more cities and towns across our country that ban them the more will jump on the bandwagon and do the same.

I also have never been bitten but there are NO pit bulls allowed in the Mobile Home Park we own nor any of our rentals. Owning one is cause for eviction per their rental agreements.

[Pepsi4me]

Comparing dogs to people is just insane & people can sometimes be cured with therapy & help.

You can not take a dog to therapy & get it help. Just like you cant punish a dog after they do something bad. You must catch them in the act or else they dont realize what they did wrong if you reprimand them 20 mins later.

[MistyWolf]

For all you dog haters, here is info on a bullmastiff that many mistake for a pitt .. you would judge this dog and shoot it and that would be a shame!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullmastiff

The Bullmastiff is a powerful dog, said to be a cross between the English Mastiff and the Bulldog. Originally bred to find and immobilise poachers, the breed has proved its value as a family pet.

The Bullmastiff is 60% Mastiff and 40% Bulldog and was first recognized in 1924. It is powerfully built and symmetrical, showing great strength, but not cumbersome; it is sound and active.

Color
Any shade of brindle, fawn, or red is allowed as long as the color is pure and clear. In the United States, however, there is no mention in the standard of the color being "pure and clear". The fawn is a light tan or blond color, while the red is a richer, red-brown. This can range from a deep red to a light red merging with the fawn sometimes described as a red-fawn. A slight white marking on the chest is permissible, but other white markings are undesirable. A black muzzle is essential, toning off towards the eyes, with dark markings around eyes contributing to the expression.

Temperament
The Bullmastiff is courageous, loyal, calm, and loving with those it knows. It has a very strong protective instinct and will defend its owners against anything it perceives as a threat. However, it does not normally attack to protect. Instead, it simply knocks the intruder over with its massive size and pins them to the ground, or, will simply stand in front of the stranger/intruder and refuse to let them pass. Bullmastiffs become intensely attached to their families and do best when they can live inside with them. Their protective instinct combined with their great size and natural wariness of strangers means that early socialization is a must. The Bullmastiff may or may not get along well with other dogs. Often, male Bullmastiffs do not tolerate other males, regardless of breed. Occasionally, females are also intolerant of other females. The Bullmastiff, in general, does get along well with children and is very loving towards them. Parental supervision should be maintained when they are with children because these dogs are so big that they may accidentally knock smaller children down.


Health
Bullmastiffs are prone to certain hereditary diseases. These include:

Hip dysplasia
Elbow dysplasia
Entropion
Hypothyroidism
Lymphoma cancer

History

Working life
With its handsome and powerful appearance, along with surprising speed, coupled with incredible strength and endurance, Bullmastiffs can overtake and capture intruders without mauling them. These traits make the Bullmastiff appear to be an excellent choice for a guard dog; however, a stubborn streak makes the animal somewhat resistant to obedience training and they can be overly protective of their human family. Due to this, the breed has been overtaken by others, more popular as guard dogs. Bred to sneak up on poachers, the Bullmastiff barks much less often than other breeds, but when they bark they will make your head turn, as it is dark and hollow sounding. The Bullmastiff was recognized as a pure-bred dog in 1924 by the English Kennel Club. In October, 1933, The American Kennel Club recognized the Bullmastiff. The foundation breeding was 60% Mastiff and 40% Bulldog (which was the Old English Bulldog, not the modern short English Bulldog of today).


http://www.i-love-dogs.com/dog-breeds/images/Bullmastiff.jpg

[lameduch27]

I Hate Pitt Bulls And Everyone Of You Pitt Bull Lovers Why Don't You Get A Box Of Cards And Send One To Each And Every Child Or Adult That Is Attacked This Year And Explain To Them That It Was Not The Fxxxin Dogs Fault But The Owners. I Will Do The Same For All Attacks Made By Poodles And Other Dogs Not Breed To Kill

For someone who is SO OPEN-MINDED, and you care so much for your convictions...I think you should follow your own advice.

[cubsgirl21]

Yea, Yea, I read them also. Your right, other dogs can be harmful but looked at the stats. Pit Bulls are by far the WORST. They are vicious. Funny thing, I was just at Softball practice with my dd and I spoke to a cop regarding vicious dogs. Said he doesnt worry about them, since he would put a bullet in the dogs head. Even cops dont want to mess with pitts.

I work for animal control and many of our officers use pitbulls as their partners. We've never had a problem with any of the pits.

[earnhardt1]

OBJECTION! You are getting alittle carried away here. People and animals are different. People were not breed to be killers. Pitt bulls were it is the way it is, that is truth. I dont care if you love them, have 15 of them, they were originally breed to kill to the death. End of story. People go bad.

dogs go bad also same thing

[freeby4me]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staffordshire_Bull_Terrier

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/12/StaffBullTerr7_wb.jpg

This is a Staffordshire Bull Terrier (mini-pit)
These are not mean dogs but because its a "pitbull" breed, people want them banned.

I have other pictures but I cant get them to come up :(

[MistyWolf]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staffordshire_Bull_Terrier

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/12/StaffBullTerr7_wb.jpg

This is a Staffordshire Bull Terrier (mini-pit)
These are not mean dogs but because its a "pitbull" breed, people want them banned.

I have other pictures but I cant get them to come up :(

Yet another point being made .. not all of these dogs are pits .. but if you were to walk down the street you'd think it was a pit and want it destroyed! That to me is inhumane!

[DBackFan]

I work for animal control and many of our officers use pitbulls as their partners. We've never had a problem with any of the pits.

I would love to know what city you live in so this can be verified.

[MistyWolf]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perro_de_Presa_Canario

http://www.pitprintsrescue.com/images/breedinfo/presa.jpg

[MistyWolf]

Why don't we get rid of these too? They are known as the most powerful dog on earth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_Mastiff

http://www.alanarnette.com/images/nimumate.jpg


a tibetan mastiff can fight 11 wolves
their head looks like bear's head
Marco Polo described it as "tall as a donkey with a voice as powerful as that of a lion."

Brave and fearless when properly socialized. Somewhat strong-willed and very determined

The Tibetan Mastiff is a powerful dog with a sturdy bone structure. It is a very large dog with a broad, massive head and a heavy, dense, medium-length coat. The bear-like head is wedged-shaped with a wide, blunt muzzle. The upper lip usually covers the lower lip. The nose is large and generally black. The teeth form a scissors or level bite. The v-shaped, thick-leathered ears hang down. Mature dogs, particularly males, tend to have moderate dewlap. The body is slightly longer than tall and the legs are heavy-boned and powerful. Marco Polo described it as "tall as a donkey with a voice as powerful as that of a lion." The muzzle is lighter than that of the English Mastiff, with an extremely strong jaw. Rear dewclaws should be removed, but front dewclaw removal is optional. The coat forms a heavy ruff around the neck. The hair on the head is short. The plumed tail curls over the back in Spitz fashion. The Tibetan Mastiff is usually black, sometimes with gold or tan markings, though he may also come in chocolate, blue & tan, sable, gold, cream, or red, with or without tan markings. Some also have white markings.

The Tibetan Mastiff is very protective and territorial. Even-tempered, calm and thoughtful. Dignified and very loyal to its own family. It is by and large loving with children but, distrusts and is reserved with strangers. Brave and fearless when properly socialized. Somewhat strong-willed and very determined, but with a desire to please. Patient and highly intelligent it was bred to take initiative. Tibetan Mastiffs should be supervised when introduced to other animals, but can do well if it is raised with them. If the owner wishes to add a second dog to the household, a mellow individual of the opposite sex, spayed or neutered, preferably of a non-dominant breed, is recommended. This breed, though highly-valued as a guard in his homeland, does not have a history of close association with people. The Tibetan Mastiff must be thoroughly socialized and trained to become the fine family guard and companion he can be. It comes naturally to this Mastiff to guard its family and their property. This special dog has to be raised to adulthood in a careful well-balanced manner. Strong words and readiness to hit the dog will only cause it to ignore its handler even more. The objective in training this dog is to achieve a bond of mutual respect, which can only be accomplished by showing respect. b!tches usually only have one heat per year, most commonly between October and December. In most other breeds, two heats are the rule. It is easy to housebreak. The few individuals that remain in Tibet are ferocious and aggressive, unpredictable in their behavior, and very difficult to train. But the dogs bred by the English are obedient and attached to their masters. The Tibetan Mastiff is an outstanding sheepdog and is ferocious against wolves or leopards that try to approach its flock. It is also an excellent guard of both entire villages and isolated houses. The Tibetan Mastiff comes to adulthood somewhat later than other breeds.

[PrincessArky]

oh wow Misty that is an awesome looking dog

[Quaker_Parrots]

Parrot person you are so right forgive me oh wise one dead man tell no tale but heck this board will sure tell the tale of what happend. it wont be a killer poodle it will be a pittbull instead just to hype up the story and make it sound good.

I hope I didn't upset you, I was just trying to lighten the mood, and get a laugh, unfortunately at your expense :D

[earnhardt1]

why not just kill them all since ppl seem to think that is humane... while we are at add cats they scratch and can cause harm to pregant women..... and birds becasue they shit on my car everytime i wash it.... but hey dont say killing rapists and serial killers is a good thing or abusive parents becasue then you go to far....bullshit its all the same,ppl who are quick to judge the pittbull are often those who never interact or have had one

[Pepsi4me]

why not just kill them all since ppl seem to think that is humane... while we are at add cats they scratch and can cause harm to pregant women..... and birds becasue they shit on my car everytime i wash it.... but hey dont say killing rapists and serial killers is a good thing or abusive parents becasue then you go to far....bullshit its all the same,ppl who are quick to judge the pittbull are often those who never interact or have had one



We had a neighbor who had a pitbull. They would let it get loose & it would run all over the neighorhood. It seemed very friendly but, the fact is Pitbulls are more prone to attack then any other breed.

Just look at the study someone posted a few pgs back. It's not a quick judgement when there are studies about dogs attacking & pitbulls have the most victims.
Im sorry but when it comes to a human life,a child getting mangaled thats is more important than a dog. I love dogs & cats...all animals but it really has gotten out of control w/all the pitbull attacks your hear about.

[earnhardt1]

ok so hw many times do you hear of ppl fighting poodles or other ankle biters?
never only the big dogs then when those dogs turn and go mean ppl blame the dog,this is where my theory on what are these lil thugs and hoodlums doing to these innocent animals that they portray as family pets? does it make it the dogs fault? no not at all.. if someone chained you in a yard all day adn didnt feed you what woudl you do? i would find a way to get something to eat,any dog can only take so much beofre it snaps as well ...

i know i am wasting my time because all the pitt haters are still goin to find 100000's of reason that they should be extinct....

[MistyWolf]

oh wow Misty that is an awesome looking dog

I know .. very sharp looking dog! .. I'd love to see one in person.

[Pepsi4me]

ok so hw many times do you hear of ppl fighting poodles or other ankle biters?
never only the big dogs then when those dogs turn and go mean ppl blame the dog,this is where my theory on what are these lil thugs and hoodlums doing to these innocent animals that they portray as family pets? does it make it the dogs fault? no not at all.. if someone chained you in a yard all day adn didnt feed you what woudl you do? i would find a way to get something to eat,any dog can only take so much beofre it snaps as well ...

i know i am wasting my time because all the pitt haters are still goin to find 100000's of reason that they should be extinct....




Where do you think the so-called lovable pits come from? Im sure somewhere in their bloodline one of their relatives was treated badly & breed to fight. So wouldnt that be passed on to an offspring possibly the one you or someone else has that is so loveable. Dogs cant go to therapy to work this out of them & that makes them unpredictable.

No it's not the dogs fault at all but owners must realize that their pitbull is more prone to attacking then others & must be responsible. They cant go saying after their pitbull went crazy attacking someone that the dog was always so sweet when all this info is available about them.

For me I would never own a dog like that but that's just me. You have a right to own one but I just wish all people who want to own one would realize that they can be very angerous.

[aussiegirl]

Actually this thread just made me write a letter to the editor of our local paper. The idea has been tossed around in the past on banning pit bulls here and now I want to gather the strength and support to GET IT DONE. The more cities and towns across our country that ban them the more will jump on the bandwagon and do the same.

I also have never been bitten but there are NO pit bulls allowed in the Mobile Home Park we own nor any of our rentals. Owning one is cause for eviction per their rental agreements.

Good for you. Way to go!!!!!

[aussiegirl]

I would love to know what city you live in so this can be verified.

I so DONT believe that, either.

[earnhardt1]

there are alot of cities that use pittbulls and rotties if you research it you will see that

[aussiegirl]

there are alot of cities that use pittbulls and rotties if you research it you will see that

I am not wasting my time on that nonsence. I'll bet more cities have these dogs banned. I dont believe any city uses them to work. Your not confused with the little rascals are you? That was just TV

[MistyWolf]

Aussie, I came by your house with my dog before but I don't think you were home!

[aussiegirl]

Aussie, I came by your house with my dog before but I don't think you were home!

I was shopping for bullets. I am going hunting tonite. It's Pitt Bull season.
I'm a women on the edge.

[MistyWolf]

I was shopping for bullets. I am going hunting tonite. It's Pitt Bull season.
I'm a women on the edge.

What about the dogs I posted that LOOK like pits and aren't? .. You'd wrongfully kill them when they are good dogs? I would own a bullmastiff in a heartbeat.

[DBackFan]

there are alot of cities that use pittbulls and rotties if you research it you will see that

OK I DID research it and buried among 100's of articles against this breed was ONE I found from Kansas City. They have a pitbull alliance and yes they take them out in the community BUT they are muzzled and used as EXAMPLES! This is from their site:

An association of local animal welfare organizations and concerned individuals working together to address the over-population of bully breed dogs in the greater Kansas City area and to mitigate the negative image associated with bully breeds through training and education.

[DBackFan]

By the way I thank you for linking some of those articles. It has actually helped my cause. These dogs WILL be banned from our Country in the not to distant future IMO. As for the dogs who look like Pits? Well ask the Americans who look or ARE Arabic or Muslim how it feels.

[aussiegirl]

What about the dogs I posted that LOOK like pits and aren't? .. You'd wrongfully kill them when they are good dogs? I would own a bullmastiff in a heartbeat.

Well I guess those dogs will just have to take one for the home team.

[MistyWolf]

By the way I thank you for linking some of those articles. It has actually helped my cause. These dogs WILL be banned from our Country in the not to distant future IMO. As for the dogs who look like Pits? Well ask the Americans who look or ARE Arabic or Muslim how it feels.

So what does that have to do with Arabic's or Muslim's? ... I think that comment is totally uncalled for and racist!

[cathych]

I am going to report this thread to a mod. It is totally out of control & needs to be closed.

[MistyWolf]

I am going to report this thread to a mod. It is totally out of control & needs to be closed.

Yes it does need to be closed .. it is out of control .. please do report it to a mod!

[aussiegirl]

I am going to report this thread to a mod. It is totally out of control & needs to be closed.

why do you think this is out of control. We are simply discussing our thoughts on dogs. Isn't that what this is suppose to be all about?

[Pepsi4me]

I agree,whats out of control about it? We are debating back & forth.

[andreame70]

I don't hate any dogs, I have a lab/chow mix that I adore and we take very good care of her. Even as much as I love her, if she were to ever act aggressively or threaten anyone in my family or let's say a friend that happened to stop by, she would have to go. My family's safety has to be top priority.

I don't believe that all pit bull attacks are the fault of the breed. There could be many reasons why they are the breed that most often attacks. Maybe it isn't the fault of the dog, maybe the owner has not trained them properly. We could speculate on why this happens for weeks and months to come...
The fact is that it does happen and it happens way too often with this particular breed.

Since it is not possible to check the credentials of every single person who chooses to have this type of dog, what options are left to ensure that no more babies, toddlers, children and adults are attacked, maimed or killed?

Doing nothing is not helping...every few days there is another story in the paper of a pit bull attacking someones child or family member.

I don't even begin to think I know all the answers. I just know that something has to be done because this threat is completely out of control. I read an article just this morning on WebMd which stated, "The chances that a victim of a fatal dog attack will be a burglar are one in 177; the odds that it will be a child are 7 out of 10." And yes, it could be an attack from any breed, but if you look at the 24 year long study that was done, http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Attacks%201982%20to%202006%20Clifton.pdf, you will see that the two breeds who did this most often were the pit and the rot.

It doesn't really matter why they attack, the facts are that they do. Once a child's face is ripped off, or someone's baby is killed, it is a little too late at that point to say, "it wouldn't have happened if they had trained the dog better." I honestly believe that dogs who attack like this have probably shown aggressive behavior in the past that was either ignored or in some cases encouraged.

Just my thoughts on it.

Andrea

[aussiegirl]

I am going to report this thread to a mod. It is totally out of control & needs to be closed.

Maybe you need to turn the channel.

[DBackFan]

I want to apologize if my post was "misunderstood". I was NOT being racist..far from it. All I meant was there are people too who "take the heat" for "looking" like someone else. I have a wonderful Arabic family as renters and they are wonderful people but a lot of folks treat them badly because of how they look. Its a fact of life, sadly.

Now back to the dogs....

[Njean31]

I want to apologize if my post was "misunderstood". I was NOT being racist..far from it. All I meant was there are people too who "take the heat" for "looking" like someone else. I have a wonderful Arabic family as renters and they are wonderful people but a lot of folks treat them badly because of how they look. Its a fact of life, sadly.

Now back to the dogs....

i understood completely what you meant from the start. it wasn't that hard to get and it didn't in the least sound racist to me. that's what happens to me alot on here..........my words get turned around because someone is trying SO hard to argue when all i'm trying to do is debate an issue........start getting called words like ignorant etc.........frankly, i'm sick of it. that's why i've shy'd away from here for a bit........well atleastt the debates.

[freeby4me]

When I was 7 years old I had my ear "pierced" by a cat that was fighting with another animal. I picked it up and it turned around and bit right through my ear. It appeared to the cat that I was "attacking" it so it defended itself. Should that cat have been killed for doing that?? Absolutely not. Should we start banning cats cause they might go crazy some day?
btw, I do have a House Cat. He does not go outside because here we have city laws about animals running loose.

Any animal can go crazy. As a PET owner you have to be responsible and understand that and train accordingly. Any dog should NEVER be allowed to run free (except in a fenced in yard)
Instead of banning, we need to make people be more responsible pet owners. That includes documented vaccines and maybe even a certificate from a dog training course.

[cathych]

If people are just discussing things, fine, I have no problem with that. But, when people start saying evil things I think I should be closed. Apparently I am not the only one that thinks this way, several ppl sent me pms agreeing with me.

[janelle]

I think we can all agree that certain dogs are breed for certain reasons. Not the dogs fault.

Pits were breed to fight and protect their territory. They served their purpose. They still do.

Owners need to know what their pets were breed to do. My cats won't fight and protect me or my property. They run and hide at the first sign of trouble. Birds are not breed but they won't attack people unless you disturb their nests. And then they can't do much harm to you---that is only in the movies.

So we now have dogs who were breed to kill if the need arises being turned into lap dogs. Unless and until those breeds have the fighting trait breed out of them, there will be more kids and people killed. Simple as that.

I agree, not the dogs fault. The fault of people thinking guard dogs can be made into tiny, non-aggressive little dogs. Not gonna happen.

So unless you want to have one and dedicate your life to be there at all times with it to handle it then they will be banned because of careless owners who get lazy and ignorant about what their dog is capable of doing.

[Pepsi4me]

If people are just discussing things, fine, I have no problem with that. But, when people start saying evil things I think I should be closed. Apparently I am not the only one that thinks this way, several ppl sent me pms agreeing with me.

We are discussing our opinions & obviously you are bothered by this thread so maybe you shouldnt be in this thread.

Im not trying to be mean but you said we are saying evil things. Thats your opinion. Others may not think that way.

[aussiegirl]

If people are just discussing things, fine, I have no problem with that. But, when people start saying evil things I think I should be closed. Apparently I am not the only one that thinks this way, several ppl sent me pms agreeing with me.

several? the only one I see that agreed with you was Misty

[MistyWolf]

First off I am not saying anyone specifically is racist .. I said the comment sounds racist! .. I have worked with Arabic's for a long time and get very defensive when ppl talk crap.

And NJean I am not twisting anyone's words around as you so politely state.

I am done with this thread .. You guys can say whatever you want about dogs, people, wild animals .. whatever .. I don't care!

And for those PM'ing complaining about the thread .. why come in and read it if it so offends or bothers you?

Happy Friday!

[aussiegirl]

Misty dont go bye-bye
It won't be the same without you

[MistyWolf]

Misty dont go bye-bye
It won't be the same without you

I am not leaving BBS .. I am just leaving this thread.

Now quit posting to me here ;) :D

[aussiegirl]

I am not leaving BBS .. I am just leaving this thread.

Now quit posting to me here ;) :D

You posted again----- I know you could never leave BBS, it's to addicting

[freeby4me]

You posted again----- I know you could never leave BBS, it's to addicting

U got that right. I go through withdrawls if its out for an hour :p

[evrita]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/evrita/bentleedad.jpg

What kind of dog is this??

[stresseater]

Ummm a boxer? ;) I also thought I'd post this nifty , handy definition so next time someone sees the word Arabic in one they may recognize what it is.
a·nal·o·gy (ə-năl'ə-jē) pronunciation
n., pl. -gies.

1.
1. Similarity in some respects between things that are otherwise dissimilar.
2. A comparison based on such similarity. See synonyms at likeness. OK ding ding next round may begin. ;) :D

[aussiegirl]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/evrita/bentleedad.jpg

What kind of dog is this??

Looks like the one I just shoot down the street. If it look like a pitt, walks like a pitt, then I guess it must be a pitt. But, I'll guess since you posted it, it's not. And your point is?

[evrita]

Are you sure and why are we talking about 7-11 owners again?

[evrita]

Looks like the one I just shoot down the street. If it look like a pitt, walks like a pitt, then I guess it must be a pitt. But, I'll guess since you posted it, it's not. And your point is?

:eek: OMG you just killed a boxer you profiler :eek:

[earnhardt1]

Looks like the one I just shoot down the street. If it look like a pitt, walks like a pitt, then I guess it must be a pitt. But, I'll guess since you posted it, it's not. And your point is?

thats mean.... so if it walks like a man and talks like a man guess its a rapist??? doubt that..... evrita is that your boxer?

[evrita]

That is the father to my brothers boxer he is a brindle boxer but to look at him you would assume he was a pitt by his size and color and he is AKC certified papers and all

This is Bently my brother baby http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/evrita/DSC02247.jpg

[earnhardt1]

awww i knew he was a boxer :)
so beautiful.................

[andreame70]

You know just doing a quick search on google I found several more pit bull attacks that have happened just since this post was started on 5/09/07.

Canada 5/09/07 http://www.640toronto.com/news/metro.cfm?cat=7428109912&rem=64878&red=80110923aPBIny&wids=410&gi=1&gm=metro.cfm
TORONTO/AM 640 TORONTO - An woman is in hospital after being attacked by pit bulls in north Scarborough. The woman was walking her dog with a friend near Finch and Neilson Rd. when the pit bulls broke through a chain link fence and attacked her poodle. When she tried to stop them, the dogs bit her hand and arms. Her dog was killed.

Indianapolis 5/09/07 61 year old man attacked http://www.theindychannel.com/news/13283272/detail.html

Boston area 5/10/07, 2 year old toddler
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/05/10/toddler_hospitalized_after_attack_by_pit_bull/

Another one from Boston 5/10/07 Less than 24 after the last one. 7 year old boy
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/city_region/breaking_news/2007/05/another_child_r.html

Columbus, Ohio 5/10/07 7 year old boy
http://www.10tv.com/?sec=news&story=sites/10tv/content/pool/200705/103365816.html

Fontana, California (today) 5/11/07 87 year old man chased and attacked
http://cbs2.com/local/local_story_131150023.html

It used to be that we heard about these attacks a couple of times a month. Lately, it seems to be happening practically every day.

Andrea

[aussiegirl]

You know just doing a quick search on google I found several more pit bull attacks that have happened just since this post was started on 5/09/07.

Canada 5/09/07 http://www.640toronto.com/news/metro.cfm?cat=7428109912&rem=64878&red=80110923aPBIny&wids=410&gi=1&gm=metro.cfm
TORONTO/AM 640 TORONTO - An woman is in hospital after being attacked by pit bulls in north Scarborough. The woman was walking her dog with a friend near Finch and Neilson Rd. when the pit bulls broke through a chain link fence and attacked her poodle. When she tried to stop them, the dogs bit her hand and arms. Her dog was killed.

Indianapolis 5/09/07 61 year old man attacked http://www.theindychannel.com/news/13283272/detail.html

Boston area 5/10/07, 2 year old toddler
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/05/10/toddler_hospitalized_after_attack_by_pit_bull/

Another one from Boston 5/10/07 Less than 24 after the last one. 7 year old boy
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/city_region/breaking_news/2007/05/another_child_r.html

Columbus, Ohio 5/10/07 7 year old boy
http://www.10tv.com/?sec=news&story=sites/10tv/content/pool/200705/103365816.html

Fontana, California (today) 5/11/07 87 year old man chased and attacked
http://cbs2.com/local/local_story_131150023.html

It used to be that we heard about these attacks a couple of times a month. Lately, it seems to be happening practically every day.

Andrea

Did you find a poodle attacks???? I bet not

[aussiegirl]

Are you sure and why are we talking about 7-11 owners again?

I don't get the 7-11 owner comment. Sorry about shooting the boxer eek:
Oh well, I should have been in the house being loved by it's owner.

[aussiegirl]

thats mean.... so if it walks like a man and talks like a man guess its a rapist??? doubt that..... evrita is that your boxer?

No, not necessarilly. But I bet if it walks like a man and talks like a man chances are he has balls. Hope that doesnt offend anybody. Just trying to make a point.

[aussiegirl]

You know just doing a quick search on google I found several more pit bull attacks that have happened just since this post was started on 5/09/07.

Canada 5/09/07 http://www.640toronto.com/news/metro.cfm?cat=7428109912&rem=64878&red=80110923aPBIny&wids=410&gi=1&gm=metro.cfm
TORONTO/AM 640 TORONTO - An woman is in hospital after being attacked by pit bulls in north Scarborough. The woman was walking her dog with a friend near Finch and Neilson Rd. when the pit bulls broke through a chain link fence and attacked her poodle. When she tried to stop them, the dogs bit her hand and arms. Her dog was killed.

Indianapolis 5/09/07 61 year old man attacked http://www.theindychannel.com/news/13283272/detail.html

Boston area 5/10/07, 2 year old toddler
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/05/10/toddler_hospitalized_after_attack_by_pit_bull/

Another one from Boston 5/10/07 Less than 24 after the last one. 7 year old boy
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/city_region/breaking_news/2007/05/another_child_r.html

Columbus, Ohio 5/10/07 7 year old boy
http://www.10tv.com/?sec=news&story=sites/10tv/content/pool/200705/103365816.html

Fontana, California (today) 5/11/07 87 year old man chased and attacked
http://cbs2.com/local/local_story_131150023.html

It used to be that we heard about these attacks a couple of times a month. Lately, it seems to be happening practically every day.

Andrea


This is so sad. I can't believe that people just don't get it. Can we get a profile on the owners, cuz after all it was there fault not the stupid dogs.

[cubsgirl21]

I so DONT believe that, either.

You can believe whatever you want, I don't care. I've worked for animal control for years, and I think I know what dogs our officers go out with. We do have many officers that have pitbulls as their partners. They come from very specific breeders and go through the same training as German Shephards. The officers and pits are used to bust dog fighting cases and gang cases.

[pepperpot]

You can believe whatever you want, I don't care. I've worked for animal control for years, and I think I know what dogs our officers go out with. We do have many officers that have pitbulls as their partners. They come from very specific breeders and go through the same training as German Shephards. The officers and pits are used to bust dog fighting cases and gang cases.

Kind of fighting fire with fire?

[cubsgirl21]

No. Our officers work undercover and say that they have access to purebred male pits. We have actually had gang members approach undercover officers with the pits asking where the dog was bred.

[janelle]

That is my point. Police use them to break up gang fights and dog fights. They do not make them lap dogs. They do not keep them around small kids or animals.

Gangs want them for use as fighting dogs and use them to protect them from other gangs. Nuff said. They don't use poodles, etc.

[pepperpot]

No. Our officers work undercover and say that they have access to purebred male pits. We have actually had gang members approach undercover officers with the pits asking where the dog was bred.

So the undercover use them as 'bait' as they would by saying they have access to say 'illegal drugs', guns, etc.?

[cubsgirl21]

Our trained pits go home daily with our officers. They are with our officers 24/7. Some of our officers have children, and all of our officers have other pets. There has never been any problems with any of our dogs. We use pits and not poodles because pits pass temperament tests with much better scores than poodles do.

[cubsgirl21]

Our dogs are never used to break up dog fights. Our dogs are never used for fighting. The dogs help us get access to people that are running dog fighting rings.

[janelle]

How? By taking them down and licking them until they comply?

[pepperpot]

Our trained pits go home daily with our officers. They are with our officers 24/7. Some of our officers have children, and all of our officers have other pets. There has never been any problems with any of our dogs. We use pits and not poodles because pits pass temperament tests with much better scores than poodles do.

And these undercover officers, who pose as 'criminals' (some of which have children and other pets)....try to portray themselves on the job as a criminal themselves? (Possibly unkept, unshaven, etc., 'street/gay' attire, vicious dog(s), slovenly behavior, etc.)

And the dogs they bring along (and to their home) must pass a 'temperament' test. (They're screened.)

Point is.....pit bulls are a 'fighting breed' to start with, and with the 'wrong' owner can be deadly. The criminal element has pursued this breed for it's 'killer qualities' and have ruined it's reputation as being the 'family dog'.

While I do not believe that ALL pit bulls should be 'put down'....there should be 'special' licensing and requirements for owning them. I do not believe the breed should be extinguished outright, but they shouldn't be allowed to be 'owned' by the 'general public' without restrictions.

They too should pass a 'temperament test' to be 'owned' by anyone.

[DestinysGrandma]

How? By taking them down and licking them until they comply?
:D :D :D :D :D that deserves 5 smileys!!

[cubsgirl21]

Out of all the dogs that our shelter adopts out, pits pass temperament tests with the highest scores. And these are dogs that have been through some of the worst abuse. They score better than beagles, labs, poodles, and the list goes on. The dogs are microchipped and monitored and not one has shown any aggression. We know this because we follow up with house visits. My two pits were skin and bones when they were rescued. They're not aggressive at all, in fact they're very submissive dogs. I was raised around pits, and when I have children they'll be raised with pits as pets too.

So only pit owners should be required to have special licensing? I trust pits before other breeds anyday.

[earnhardt1]

This is so sad. I can't believe that people just don't get it. Can we get a profile on the owners, cuz after all it was there fault not the stupid dogs.

its kinda rude to call the dog stuipd when it is not HUMAN or comparable to a human right. anyways the videos posted in the snake topic were very upsetting and ppl wonder why these animals get a bad rap? take a look and see why see how they are abused and mistreated

[earnhardt1]

Out of all the dogs that our shelter adopts out, pits pass temperament tests with the highest scores. And these are dogs that have been through some of the worst abuse. They score better than beagles, labs, poodles, and the list goes on. The dogs are microchipped and monitored and not one has shown any aggression. We know this because we follow up with house visits. My two pits were skin and bones when they were rescued. They're not aggressive at all, in fact they're very submissive dogs. I was raised around pits, and when I have children they'll be raised with pits as pets too.

So only pit owners should be required to have special licensing? I trust pits before other breeds anyday.


i agree 100% with you!!!! my son is wanting another pitt soo bad but i am wanting a rottie so we are stuck on who gets what!!!! lol but i woudl NEVER own a yappy poodle or any of those of hyper ankle biters

[aussiegirl]

Kind of fighting fire with fire?

ITA

[aussiegirl]

That is my point. Police use them to break up gang fights and dog fights. They do not make them lap dogs. They do not keep them around small kids or animals.

Gangs want them for use as fighting dogs and use them to protect them from other gangs. Nuff said. They don't use poodles, etc.

Very well said. ITA

[stephanyb]

I think that whatever dog is the fad at the time is the dog that you hear about causing the most injuries. It's not actually the purebreed pittbull that is doing all these attacks you hear about. The purebreed American pittbull is actually a smaller dog. The pitts you see and hear about now have crossbreed with bigger dogs. The American pitt used to be known as the "Amercian" dog because of its gentleness and loyalty to it's family. It's picture was on flags. I hate hearing people say we should get rid of all pitts when they don't even know what a pitt is. It scares me that the bannning of animals is actually a reality. I own a rottie, great dog, like most are. The top three breeds that are being banned are pitts, rotties, and german shephards. Which is kinda weird cause the malumute, huskies, and dalmations are more likely to bite. My sister was attacked by a doberman, and yes she is scarred from it, should we also ban dobermans? Why not just ban all big dogs that way we just don't have to worry about it. What do you think will happen if pitts no longer exist? These horrible people will just go out and get the next biggest dog and train it to be mean, maybe it'll be the golden retriever. Then you'll hear about them attacking people all the time. Then they'll get banned, then what dog will it be? I'd go to jail before I'd put my rottie down because of someone else's bad deeds. I imagine that the good people who own the purebreed pitts feel the same way.

[Rosina823]

Very well said Stephanyb .. of course your point will be totally missed here!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwI_qlq5vHs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjZks...elated&search=

Oh and don't they use German Shepard's as police dogs and did you ever see a video of their training .. pretty viscious! I sure wouldn't want to be on the other end of the dog.

[earnhardt1]

I think that whatever dog is the fad at the time is the dog that you hear about causing the most injuries. It's not actually the purebreed pittbull that is doing all these attacks you hear about. The purebreed American pittbull is actually a smaller dog. The pitts you see and hear about now have crossbreed with bigger dogs. The American pitt used to be known as the "Amercian" dog because of its gentleness and loyalty to it's family. It's picture was on flags. I hate hearing people say we should get rid of all pitts when they don't even know what a pitt is. It scares me that the bannning of animals is actually a reality. I own a rottie, great dog, like most are. The top three breeds that are being banned are pitts, rotties, and german shephards. Which is kinda weird cause the malumute, huskies, and dalmations are more likely to bite. My sister was attacked by a doberman, and yes she is scarred from it, should we also ban dobermans? Why not just ban all big dogs that way we just don't have to worry about it. What do you think will happen if pitts no longer exist? These horrible people will just go out and get the next biggest dog and train it to be mean, maybe it'll be the golden retriever. Then you'll hear about them attacking people all the time. Then they'll get banned, then what dog will it be? I'd go to jail before I'd put my rottie down because of someone else's bad deeds. I imagine that the good people who own the purebreed pitts feel the same way.

HELL YEAH finally someone else who would go to bat for their rottie or pitt.....

[YankeeMary]

This is one of our 2 "big" dogs...lol...isn't he goofy. His name is Pluto...should have been named goofy. He is looking for a squirrel.
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1468/7356915/14010829/252043277.jpg

[YankeeMary]

This is our other dog Sally. She is a Golden Retreiver.
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1468/7356915/14010829/252043285.jpg

[aussiegirl]

This is one of our 2 "big" dogs...lol...isn't he goofy. His name is Pluto...should have been named goofy. He is looking for a squirrel.
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1468/7356915/14010829/252043277.jpg

Now those are some cute dogs. How nice, I could bring my kids around them and not have to worry about the ER visit after the visit

[aussiegirl]

Very well said Stephanyb .. of course your point will be totally missed here!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwI_qlq5vHs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjZks...elated&search=

Oh and don't they use German Shepard's as police dogs and did you ever see a video of their training .. pretty viscious! I sure wouldn't want to be on the other end of the dog.

Sorry, not missed, just taken with a grain of salt

[earnhardt1]

Sorry, not missed, just taken with a grain of salt

is that because it is easier to blame a breed and hate a breed than possibly learn facts about the animal most people fear the unknown (in this case the pitt bull)

[aussiegirl]

is that because it is easier to blame a breed and hate a breed than possibly learn facts about the animal most people fear the unknown (in this case the pitt bull)

I am not blaming the "breed" I am looking at the facts. Facts are facts. Cities dont allow them, you pay more for home insurance in some areas. They are being banned more and more. Perhaps you should take a look at the facts. Then go get one if you want, get a pit and rot. Train them well, wish you the best

[mamalamas]

That why I mentioned poodles. They cause many bites but I have never, and I could be wrong, read an article stating that a poodle ever killed anyone. Please I have a very open mind. If you are able to find an article on killer poodles let me know. Yea, your right I avoid pitbulls the same way I avoid, oh lets say serial killers.


OMG!!!! YOU ARE TOOOOO FUNNY AUSSIE!


And my grandparents had a poodle when we were kids ... I rather be around my uncles pitt bulls than my granparents poodle anyday!

[Quaker_Parrots]

We had a rottie when I was growing up. Best dog you would ever want to be around, unless you were the electric meter reader. That dog knew when that man was coming. We lived out in the country, and Tag-a-long would start barking as soon as he heard the truck at the house up the road. Why did he hate this man so much? Because the dirty SOB sprayed him with mace and Tag wasn't doint anything to him, he was pinned near the box, but not where he could get the man. After that, it didnt matter who was reading the meter, Tag knew the truck, and wouldn't shut up till they were gone.

He was a sweatheart. There was one incident with a friend of mine, he thought she was threatening me, and he nipped her leg, without breaking the skin or doing any damage at all, to warn her, and that was the only time the whole time we had him that anything like that ever happened. he would even follow my dad out on the watershed and lay on a log in the water while dad fished from the boat. I miss that old boy, havent thought about him in years.

[earnhardt1]

We had a rottie when I was growing up. Best dog you would ever want to be around, unless you were the electric meter reader. That dog knew when that man was coming. We lived out in the country, and Tag-a-long would start barking as soon as he heard the truck at the house up the road. Why did he hate this man so much? Because the dirty SOB sprayed him with mace and Tag wasn't doint anything to him, he was pinned near the box, but not where he could get the man. After that, it didnt matter who was reading the meter, Tag knew the truck, and wouldn't shut up till they were gone.

He was a sweatheart. There was one incident with a friend of mine, he thought she was threatening me, and he nipped her leg, without breaking the skin or doing any damage at all, to warn her, and that was the only time the whole time we had him that anything like that ever happened. he would even follow my dad out on the watershed and lay on a log in the water while dad fished from the boat. I miss that old boy, havent thought about him in years.



awww my rotties were awesome the first one i had she was awesome but when she got pregant she got real sick and the pups drained ehr of her energy and wouldnt let her feed and if we took her away from them she wouldnt eat adn the vet told us there was nothing we could do that some dogs just dont make it after tehy have babies,and 2 dasy later i went out to where her adn her pups were and she was dead with the pups sleeping on her....... so i kept 1 pup and she was the greatest ,every morn at 6:30 she would bark the neighbors called her the alarm clock dog, she protected my son and myself,we had a prowler once and we knew he would not get our yard with her out there but she hated to be indoors so the summer she got to spend out side and in the winter she came indoors.... then one day we woke up and there was a landslide in our back yard and her dog house flipped over on her and killed her... i was devastated that was 4 years ago and am now fianlly looking for a new rottie

[stephanyb]

I would in this day and age hope people wouldn't watch the news and assume everything they hear on it is a fact. The facts are...pitts and rotts combined only count for 3% of all dog bites. That's it. More people are in the emergency room for small dog bites on a daily basis. Yes, if you train your pitt or rott to be mean, or you neglect them as so many people do, the chances are you will get hurt worse from their bite. But, if people are gonna say we should ban these dogs, then I think fair is fair, the little dogs should be banned also, as they do bite more often. And for a child, it is tramatic no matter what bites them. It always amazes me that everytime i hear a story about a child being attacked by a pitt, you also hear of the horrible ways these dogs are forced to live. Abuse, neglect....it's a shame. Then you hear of these stories where dogs are being banned. There was a search and rescue rottie that had to be put down because of BSL and this dog had saved hundreds of lives. A couple of the dogs that were there for 9-11 had to be put down. They did more for people than most people do for people, sorry you feel these dogs are bad or dangerous.

[msginna]

"is that because it is easier to blame a breed and hate a breed than possibly learn facts about the animal most people fear the unknown (in this case the pitt bull)"

It is easier because it is factual and the people debating these facts or throw out info about other breeds likr the killer poodles (to take light off the pits) don't want to see them becasuse then their doggies at home might be seen in a diferent light. We know some of you have pits that haven't atacked. Again these breeds were designed, ie. bread to FIGHT. There is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO way around that. A fact is a FACT. So yes rally for your pets if you must but know that these breeds are not like any other pets and they will never be. No matter how much love you give your pits they could turn at a moments notice because of theit breed. facts again. I am glad your pits are ok, for now. But don't come in here complaining that something set them off and they bit as they were intended to do by breading.

[lameduch27]

The REASON they were 'bred' to fight, is because they have VERY powerful jaw muscles...THAT is what they are born with, and WHY they were the desirable breed for fighting...they were/are TAUGHT to fight and attack

[Qtxann315]

Pitbulls are dangerous and vicious. It's in their nature to protect themselves first. I don't think we should completely wipe out the pitbulls, not all of them are vicious. I think it's seriously how they are trained, because all dogs can be trained to not attack kids. I mean what are we to do, I know that pitbulls won't be completely wiped out no matter what. There are pitbulls lovers out there.

[aussiegirl]

The REASON they were 'bred' to fight, is because they have VERY powerful jaw muscles...THAT is what they are born with, and WHY they were the desirable breed for fighting...they were/are TAUGHT to fight and attack

Thats what makes these dogs so dangerous. They should not be allowed to be breed for all the reasons you listed above.

[lameduch27]

Thats what makes these dogs so dangerous. They should not be allowed to be breed for all the reasons you listed above.

All the reasons? :D

[Pepsi4me]

The people who own these dogs will not change their opinion. They hear of another pitbull attack & they say my dog isnt like that or that dog had to be abused. Not every pitbull that attacked or killed someone was mistreated. Just like you im sure some treated their pitbull like a family member & showered it with love. Then it attacks & they say but he was so lovable.


Owning a pitbull is taking a chance in my opinion. They are unpredictable & I know I would never take that chance especially when I have children.

[Trishntx]

My neighbor's pit bull (one year old) ran over to us as we were getting out of our truck this weekend. I immediately climbed into the bed of the truck and my hubby stook there and began to pet him. The dog was so anxious and unsure of my hubby petting him. His ower came over and said he was kind of hyper since they took the shock collar off of him. WTH??? then why is he letting him run up to his neighbors. I was scared to death, this dogs head is twice the size of his body and could have devoured my husbands whole arm. This neighbor has three small children of his own and I have a gut feeling there is an accident just waiting to happen with this dog and it also better not be an incident with my cat. UGH!

[pepperpot]

Owning a pitbull is taking a chance in my opinion. They are unpredictable & I know I would never take that chance especially when I have children.

ITA

[mamalamas]

I am sure there are pitts that have owners that take excellent care of them .. and they still attack. I think a lot has to do with how they are bred ... not just how they are raised. I also think you take a chance with any dog that you own ... any animal can turn on you or someone else ... especially when provoked. Yes, there are a lot of known cases of pitts attacking people ... and as sad as that is ... how many cases do you not hear about with other breeds? It is just always known when it is a pitt. I do not think anyone should be allowed to own these types of dogs. People that get them and train them to attack ... they should be at fault .. not the animal. The animal is just doing what it is taught to do ... if animal owners took more responsibility for their own actions maybe it would cut down on us hearing of such sad stories!

[aussiegirl]

My neighbor's pit bull (one year old) ran over to us as we were getting out of our truck this weekend. I immediately climbed into the bed of the truck and my hubby stook there and began to pet him. The dog was so anxious and unsure of my hubby petting him. His ower came over and said he was kind of hyper since they took the shock collar off of him. WTH??? then why is he letting him run up to his neighbors. I was scared to death, this dogs head is twice the size of his body and could have devoured my husbands whole arm. This neighbor has three small children of his own and I have a gut feeling there is an accident just waiting to happen with this dog and it also better not be an incident with my cat. UGH!

I would call your cities animal warden or city hall. Make sure vicious dogs are allowed in your city, if not have the damn thing removed. You should not have a loose pit bull next door to you. That just sucks. I would be a nervous wreck. Good Luck.

[sdisco]

Pitbull are very dangerous animals, they would even eat their own babies. Hope that the child is ok

[evrita]

Cars are dangerous drunk people behind the wheel are.People who are drunk with guns are hell walking across the street is. Lets just SHOOT THEM ALL

[stephanyb]

My neighbors have a Lab that runs loose all the time. This dog is huge. Hmmm.....it could be dangerous....I don't think I want my son out there riding his bike in case this dog decides to be mean and bite. I think I'll go to my county commissioners meeting and ask for Labs to be banned....I mean...this one owner is a bad owner..and the dog could be mean...and I have heard of other Labs biting...so that must mean that all lab owners are bad and all labs are mean and bite....so I want all Labs and any dog that looks like a lab to be banned from my county....then I won't have to worry about it anymore. Oh and sorry to all those who own Labs that have never biten or shown any aggression....but the potential is there...so you'll just have to deal with it.


Does this sound stupid to you?