Honest Opinions Wanted.....please?

[keen9801]

I am wanting to know what all you thought about this idea I come up with.

Tonight is the parade for our state fair. My kids and I plan on going to it, but I wanted to see what all of you thought about my daughter dressing up nice and handing out flyers to the ppl walking in the parade to sponsor her. I put in a copy of the flyer, the only different about it will be the pic she has a different pic that we are going to put on it, this is a rough copy of it.

Anyway just thought I would ask and see what everyone here thought.

thanks

[JKATHERINE]

This might not be what you're looking for or what you want to hear, but honestly, I think it's wrong to put 4 year olds in beauty pageants/contest...jmho

[JKATHERINE]

Also, I don't think it's very safe to put a picture of your child and your child's full name and location on a website with almost 30,000 registered members (and who knows how many lurkers)...

[catssass]

I find this disturbing, you are giving her name and location on a certain, specific date out to hundreds ( maybe thousands) of strangers, one of whom might be a child molester, you just never know what they might do...

[Donnagg123]

It is a good idea, however instead of handing them to random people, take the papers to local businesses (usually bigger ones are better) and you would have a better chance of getting money. Maybe you could offer to mention them as your sponsor in the name booklet as well. Good Luck! :) (ps. she's a cutie ans sure to win first place!)

[buttrfli]

I guess I will jump in as well.

I have to agree that its not safe to post this info for thousands of people to see.. its very dangerous. I know you were looking to "us" for advice, but you have to remember that ANYONE can view this site, they don't have to be a member.

As far as the pagent goes... I don't think putting makeup on babies and parading them around is right. Thats TOTALLY my opinion. I am not sure where you live, but in our state we have several pagents and some of them no not allow any type of make-up or anything that alters the child natural look (extentions etc)

I know kids love to do them, but theres just something not right about children being made up to look like adults. I know a lot of pagents offer scholarships etc, but the child should win them on their OWN natural beauty, not a bunch of make-up and stuff.

I personally would never put my girls in one... they need to know that they get by in this world by whats in their head, not on their face.

kind of off the sub... there was a HBO original show a few years back called "Living Dolls" it followed a little girl through the pagent process... I was shocked at what all the family and this girl went through just to win a trophy.

I know there are decent, honest and real pagents out there... if your DD wants to be inone, maybe you can check into seeing if there are any natural pagents close to you?

[Momof2totsand1teen]

I agree with butterfli, make up on kids is wrong. Let them be kids and show their natural beauty.

If I was walking in a parade, I would not want someone handing me anything. I would want to focus on the parade and only that. I think that would be rude and tacky.

If you need money, I think your best bet would go to businesses in person.

[Kelsey1224]

I'm jumping on the bandwagon here. You daughter is absolutely beautiful...but she doesn't look 4 to me. That is the face of a teenager. Four year old LITTLE GIRLS do not need makeup on them.

I also find it disturbing to put your daughter's identifying information out there for thousands of strangers to read. There are pedophiles all around us and they are on the look out for stuff like this.

Also...if you need sponsors to afford this pageant thing...then perhaps you need to find a more affordable hobby for your daughter.

You asked...

[Sweetberries]

I personally think your daughter has too much makeup on for a 4 year old :eek: jmo

[keen9801]

I totally completely forgot I took the info off!! Thank you for saying that thank thank you thank you, gosh thank you!!!!!!!

[cinnamonch]

My question is what is the purpose of the pageant? She is 4 years old and already being defined by her looks? And the make-up? we wont even go there.

I think there are other things that you could get your 4 year old involved in that will help her grow into the young lady she is to become.

buttrfli, I remember that special you are talking about and what I got out of it, it was the parents that were driven to have their children be involved and not the girls wanting to be in it.

[JKATHERINE]

You're right, Cinnamonch. Pageants, especially at this young of an age, are for the parent's benefit, not the child. Much like the casting call that I recently brought my daughter to for LL Bean. That was TOTALLY for me. A v e r y (lol...she's only 1) had nothing to do with the decision. However, it was not a contest, so to speak, and she wore no make up. She didn't even get in to be seen because there were sooooooo many people there. Oh well. Anyhow, my point is, that you're right. It's all about the parents...no matter what way you put it.

[buttrfli]

buttrfli, I remember that special you are talking about and what I got out of it, it was the parents that were driven to have their children be involved and not the girls wanting to be in it.


yep.. that was it.. it was very said. Little girls who get 2 or 3 hours of sleep and have to wear fake teeth... one of the moms promised her DD $50 if she wouldn't wiggle her loose tooth and make it fall out until after the pagent.

Little girls should be just that.. little girls!

My girls and I play "beauty shop" all the time and they love to wear make-up, but its a game... I would never allow them out of the house wearing it.

[Hillbilly]

I also wouldn't hand out personal info on my daughter,way too dangerous! I don't see anything wrong with putting a little girl in a pageant as long as she wants to do it.I don't like alot of make-up on the kids though.Our local fair is having a pageant this week and they don't want make-up on the kids.They want them to be in casual clothes too.I think that's how it ought to be.I remember watching the series Showbiz Mom's and Dad's and the little girl that's mom entered her in all those pageants...I could not believe how that mother pushed and bribed her daughter to participate.I thought it was sickening.Alot of times the little girl would cry and I wanted to reach through the tv and smack the mother.If the kid doesn't want to do it,they definately shouldn't be forced.
Good luck to your daughter,I hope she wins. :)

[Denise1972]

Keen, believe it or not, there are ALOT of pedophiles around our area. I would be careful.

Go to this website and put in sangamon county or your zip. You will be shocked to see how many crazy people are in our area.

http://www.isp.state.il.us/sor/sor.cfm

[keen9801]

Thank you for you opinions, I would like to say I do not do this for my own satisfaction, my daughter loves doing it. If she doesn't win, I will not and will never yell at her, bribe her or be angry with her, rather her and I will be happy and smile and walk out that door cause we had a good time. She isn't being forced into anything, if she doesn't want to do it, well thats that, she doesn't want to do it. But for now she enjoy's herself, who knows someday she could become a famous person, she could become a doctor, she could become a teacher, regardless of where she takes her life she isn't being forced into anything. Yes she plays dress up and plays make-up just like every other little girl, but no I do not take her to the grocery store with make-up on, I don't put make-up her everyday. Yes I agree there are other pageants that do and don't require make-up. As far as me putting make-up on her for a pageant, oka some agree its ok and some don't but I am not doing anything permant, it washes off, she isn't getting tattooed and it isn't hurting her. Pageants are not judged soley on beauty. They are based on talent, personality, etc. When she graduates from High School and has things too look back on in her life she will be proud. She is only 4 and has been in 2 pageants, she has been in cheerleading, she has been in dance, she is going into gymnastics. Each yes even the pageants that will help her feel better about herself, make her proud to be who she is, understand the importance of making good grades, to become successful in life. No not the pageant itself will do all that for her, but is certainly will not make her turn to drugs or bad grades etc. The day she comes to me and says mom I don't want to be in anymore pageants I will reply with, that is fine with me sweetie, what would you like to be in! Once again I will never force this on her, I will never make her do anything she does not want to do. I have watched shows with the mothers and fathers yell, scream, and sometimes even punish their daughters cause they didn't hold their head right, they didn't stand right, but that will never be me, her father, nor will it be anyone in our family.
I do apprecaite you comments, your concerns and will never be angry about anything anyone says, i asked for honest opinions, that is what I got..... and I appreciate that! But I do want you to know that I don't force this upon my daughter and she will never be seen crying or upset cause she didn't win a pageant or she wasn't "perfect"