Are there any laws that just really bug you?

[Kyla Kym]

One that really bugs me is the fact that I will get a ticket and a speech if caught without my seatbelt in my big metal Jeep vehicle that has a metal roof on it, It's like being in a huge metal box. Yet Mr. motorcycle rider can wave at me as the cop gives me a ticket and he is flying down the rode on the equivalent of a metal bar stool doing 55 mpr and a flash light in his hand. Nothing strapping him down on this narrow 2 tiny wheels thing or making him more visible to me on the road. Matter of fact, most of them wear black, so it's like even harder to notice them on the hwy. No helmet, not even a knee pad for protection. And that is just fine and dandy, but I'm made to feel almost ashamed of myself for even considering not wearing a seat belt. :rolleyes:

I think they should have to at least wear bright orange and have one of those bus flashing lights on a pole waving up in the air on their bikes so I see them coming! :D

Arkansas use to have to wear helmets on bikes, about the time they passed the seatbelt law was when they passed the law that bikers don't have to wear the helmets anymore. :rolleyes:

[Bud_Girl76]

One that really bugs me is the fact that I will get a ticket and a speech if caught without my seatbelt in my big metal Jeep vehicle that has a metal roof on it, It's like being in a huge metal box. Yet Mr. motorcycle rider can wave at me as the cop gives me a ticket and he is flying down the rode on the equivalent of a metal bar stool doing 55 mpr and a flash light in his hand. Nothing strapping him down on this narrow 2 tiny wheels thing or making him more visible to me on the road. Matter of fact, most of them wear black, so it's like even harder to notice them on the hwy. No helmet, not even a knee pad for protection. And that is just fine and dandy, but I'm made to feel almost ashamed of myself for even considering not wearing a seat belt. :rolleyes:

I think they should have to at least wear bright orange and have one of those bus flashing lights on a pole waving up in the air on their bikes so I see them coming! :D

Arkansas use to have to wear helmets on bikes, about the time they passed the seatbelt law was when they passed the law that bikers don't have to wear the helmets anymore. :rolleyes:


I totally agree with you on this.. I think it's a stupid law that they don't have to wear there helmet's. But we have to be in a seatbelt :rolleyes:

[Freebeemom]

Personally I always wear my seatbelt. If someone is going to take the risk to be on something that is unprotected (Like a motorcycle) then they are taking their own risks. THere are many activist motorcyclists (A B A T E for one) who try to make sure that they don't have to wear helmets. Again, I don't agree with that. After being in the ER seeing car accidents and morotcycle accidents, there is no way that just because one is not required to do it, I don't have to. Sorry, but law or not....I always wear my seatbelt.

[gobs101]

I believe the laws should change regarding who family members are when a man or woman is in the Service. Seems if the person is married the spouce is only one considered the relative and the heck with the parents who raised them and made them into the person they were. We had them longer and loved them just as much. The benefits for the burial should be given to the one who plans and arranges the funeral and to make sure the money is used as such. We as his parents didnt recieve a dime for anything but did have to pay for things the goverment didnt,hench the extra 12,000 for expences the spouce recieved. I think the laws should change the way they hand out this money. Its a sad thing when someone is made "rich" on the death of your child while parents struggle not only with coping with the death of their child but the expences also.

[schsa]

I think that everyone should have to wear a seat belt. It's just common sense. People on motorcycles should have to have helmets. I'd rather not see your brains splattered across the highway when some moron hits you.

I think that people who cannot pass a writted and an actual driver's test should not be issued a driver's license. If you need ID get a state issued identification card.

And I think that a police officer driving a police car and doesn't obey basic driving rules like turning on your signals when you make turns or change lanes, should be ticketed by the rest of us who see you doing this sort of thing.

[iluvmybaby]

They call motorcycles around here, "Donor cycles" There are SOOO many motorcycle fatalities, some ppl that I know...or knew.... :(

[delSol]

the ones that are not enforced...

[lisahiser]

And I think that a police officer driving a police car and doesn't obey basic driving rules like turning on your signals when you make turns or change lanes, should be ticketed by the rest of us who see you doing this sort of thing.


I so agree with this, for some reason here in my small town, the police think it is ok not to use a turn signal, nor to stop completely at any stop sign. Its like some one gave them a badge to break the basic traffic laws.

I also believe that some one should wear a seat belt. I know it has saved many of my family members lives. I always wear mine and make anyone in my car put theirs on, and if they don't the car does not move until they do. I have always been a safe driver, I have never had an accident or a ticket. I just want the ones who are with me to be safe from the crazies out there.

[newwiccan]

My husband has a motorcycle and has to go by military laws no matter where he's riding it. He has to wear a helmet, reflective vest and long sleeves and pants EVERY time he goes anywhere. It's common sense. I don't know why everyone isn't made to do the same thing. We also wear seatbelts every time we go anywhere. If we were in a wreck and it could be proved we weren't wearing it, the military will not pay the medical bills.

[impatient]

I believe the laws should change regarding who family members are when a man or woman is in the Service. Seems if the person is married the spouce is only one considered the relative and the heck with the parents who raised them and made them into the person they were. We had them longer and loved them just as much. The benefits for the burial should be given to the one who plans and arranges the funeral and to make sure the money is used as such. We as his parents didnt recieve a dime for anything but did have to pay for things the goverment didnt,hench the extra 12,000 for expences the spouce recieved. I think the laws should change the way they hand out this money. Its a sad thing when someone is made "rich" on the death of your child while parents struggle not only with coping with the death of their child but the expences also.

Sorry for your loss!!! My prayers are with you!
My son is over there now. Just got off the phone with him~love talking to him.
I assumed that when they did the paper work for the insurance and all the others ,that the soilder wrote out who was to get what? And if the spouse recieved it why didn't she pay for any of it?
But I agree with you, the one who pays should get it.

[Willow]

My brother lives in Florida and they don't have the helmet law there. We have it in Mass so when he comes up to visit he has to use one. I don't like how they mess my hair up but I would never ride without one.

[justme23]

Well... I personally don't see anything wrong w/ the no helmet law... it used to annoy the piss out of me... but if you think about it, in 99.9% of motorcycle involved accidents, the ONLY purpose that helmet serves is to keep the head in one piece, it doesn't save lives like seatbelts do... and in most states, they are required to carry extra insurance if they choose to go w/out the helmet, so they are well aware of the dangers involved... however, I DO agree that they should be required to wear bright colors w/ more distinguising lights on the motorcycles.

[Night Wolf]

I always wear my seatbelt, always have, even before they passed the law.
I think they should have to wear a helmet but at the same time, they know what they danger is and if they choose not to wear one and scatter their brains all over the place it is their own fault for not wearing one.
Just like it would be my own fault if I don't wear a seatbelt and fly out the car window, I would not expect anyone else to be blamed, even if they hit my vehicle.

[YNKYH8R]

Well it isn’t actually a law but I think it would be nice if instead of a death sentence being just electrocution or lethal injection there should be organ removal as a choice. Prisoners could choose to donate their organs to the donor bank (they’d have to sign a waiver first) and let them die on the operating table. At least their lives would bring about some good for the bad they cause other people through their actions.

[YNKYH8R]

Another law they should instate is that new hand gun technology law. There is this new technology (that was shot down by the NRA no surprise) that would make it so that when you buy a gun the only person that could fire it would be the purchaser. Anyone else who tries to fire it not function.

[Njean31]

I believe the laws should change regarding who family members are when a man or woman is in the Service. Seems if the person is married the spouce is only one considered the relative and the heck with the parents who raised them and made them into the person they were. We had them longer and loved them just as much. The benefits for the burial should be given to the one who plans and arranges the funeral and to make sure the money is used as such. We as his parents didnt recieve a dime for anything but did have to pay for things the goverment didnt,hench the extra 12,000 for expences the spouce recieved. I think the laws should change the way they hand out this money. Its a sad thing when someone is made "rich" on the death of your child while parents struggle not only with coping with the death of their child but the expences also.


i'm sorry about your loss but do not understand. did his spouse not arrange and pay for his burial? why on earth would you be expected to pay? my husband is in the military reserves and has the 250,000.00 life insurance policy from the government (on top of his insurance from his reg job). if he made his parents beneficiaries of any of his policies, i would surely divorce him because it would prove to me he didn't love me and care about me and his childrens futures if anything were to happen to him. and if something did happen to him, i would NEVER expect his parents to cover his funeral expenses.........they could help with ideas/suggestions....but i would not take any money from them.

my daddy did that very thing to my mother. he left his ENTIRE estate to his mother (he had 7 children by 2 wives) and none of us ever saw a dime. she died the very next year and all of his monies and property went to HIS brothers and sisters :mad: i seriously hate them.........they had the gall to ask my mom if she wanted to buy some of his stuff (they were divorced).

[Njean31]

Well it isn’t actually a law but I think it would be nice if instead of a death sentence being just electrocution or lethal injection there should be organ removal as a choice. Prisoners could choose to donate their organs to the donor bank (they’d have to sign a waiver first) and let them die on the operating table. At least their lives would bring about some good for the bad they cause other people through their actions.


omg, ita with you for once :D

[justme23]

YNKYH8R, I agree w/ both of your posts.

[YNKYH8R]

omg, ita with you for once :D
Hey, I'mnot allll evil. :cool:

[lisahiser]

I believe that if you are sentenced to death. then you should die within a year. that is 1 year. not 7, 15, or 25 years down the road. Once you are given a sentence, then a date should be set a year from then, that will give you plenty of time for appeals, if any should need be. I do realize that there are some people who are wrongly accused, but with all the DNA tech. and all the technology they have out there, we should be able to have things figured out fast. and honestly if people were to start dieing when they are given a death sentence I honestly think that people who stop doing what they are doing, as long as it is enforced. If no one enforces it, who is going to be scared.



Also, I have one more,

why is that child molesters are allowed to walk free? I don't care how much time you spent in prison, you stole someone's life, their innocence, you have no reason to live or have the same rights as your victims. Once you have taken something from another human life, then yours should be done.

I am sorry but this one hits home hard for me. I would love to kill, the animal that hurt my nephews and niece.


ok getting off my soap box.......................

[YNKYH8R]

I believe that if you are sentenced to death. then you should die within a year. that is 1 year. not 7, 15, or 25 years down the road. Once you are given a sentence, then a date should be set a year from then, that will give you plenty of time for appeals, if any should need be. I do realize that there are some people who are wrongly accused, but with all the DNA tech. and all the technology they have out there, we should be able to have things figured out fast. and honestly if people were to start dieing when they are given a death sentence I honestly think that people who stop doing what they are doing, as long as it is enforced. If no one enforces it, who is going to be scared.



Also, I have one more,

why is that child molesters are allowed to walk free? I don't care how much time you spent in prison, you stole someone's life, their innocence, you have no reason to live or have the same rights as your victims. Once you have taken something from another human life, then yours should be done.

I am sorry but this one hits home hard for me. I would love to kill, the animal that hurt my nephews and niece.


ok getting off my soap box.......................

Well, that idea is certainly admirable about one year death sentences, except that the courts are so backed up that sometimes appeals aren’t heard for years. So if you have 500 hundred people nation wide that need to have appeals heard they have to stand in line like everyone else for their appeals. And that includes all federal appeals for all federal crimes ranging from grand theft auto to embezzlement.

[LoveBugg]

I cant think of a law that bugs me yet.... But... Everytime I am in my old city, cops are pulling people over for no reason. You actually have to be driving the speed limit (not over or under) or you better be in traffic, or they are going to pull your butt over. Luckily they havent pulled me over yet.. Thank goodness.

[lisahiser]

Well, that idea is certainly admirable about one year death sentences, except that the courts are so backed up that sometimes appeals aren’t heard for years. So if you have 500 hundred people nation wide that need to have appeals heard they have to stand in line like everyone else for their appeals. And that includes all federal appeals for all federal crimes ranging from grand theft auto to embezzlement.


oh I know....... its just seems like there should be more of prority on somethings than others. I just heard of a case ( i don't know where I read it but it was online somewhere) where a lady was suing her neighbor for damages because her neighbor's dog did his business on her lawn and now her lawn has a bare spot in it and she wants her to pay for it, well needless to say this was just a waste of tax payers money and the lady lost her case, due to the fact that she couldn't say for sure that it was her neighbors dog that did it, so she is appealing it??????? :eek: Sometimes I just don't understand the legal system.

[3lilpigs]

I'd like to know why its a law (in most places) that a dog must be on a leash.......but not a freaking cat!!! :mad:

why is it a law that you must pooper scoop after your dog when walking it, but cats can feel free to crap anywhere and everywhere! (including on my front step!!! :eek: )

why is it a law that i cant have my stereo turned up after 10pm, but my neighbors can leave their dog out ALL DAY AND NIGHT barking for no reason!!??
(i dont do that with my stereo, thats just an example)

[Bud_Girl76]

I'd like to know why its a law (in most places) that a dog must be on a leash.......but not a freaking cat!!! :mad:

why is it a law that you must pooper scoop after your dog when walking it, but cats can feel free to crap anywhere and everywhere! (including on my front step!!! :eek: )

why is it a law that i cant have my stereo turned up after 10pm, but my neighbors can leave their dog out ALL DAY AND NIGHT barking for no reason!!??
(i dont do that with my stereo, thats just an example)


OMG I totally agree with you on this.. We have so many neighbor hood cats and they come and pee all over my tires and stuff outback of my home and than my car smells like cat pee which is a horrible smell :o

[mimi37]

I think it is wrong that when a child is put in foster care because their parents screwed up, that their other relatives (aunts, uncles, grandparents) aren't ever allowed to see them again. My brother's children got taken away 5 years ago because his girlfriend abused their son. We haven't been allowed to see them or even send them a card because "extended family has no rights." It's not fair that we are expected to turn off our feelings and the kids are supposed to think we don't care about them.

[MamaFairal]

How about the law where ya cant run around naked!

Im sorry but i just dont like to wear clothes all the time.....lol

[kygirl71]

I'd like to know why...If I put my kids in a car without a seatbelt, I'll get a ticket but the school system can stick them on a bus without a seatbelt. Not a single school bus in ths town has seatbelts. :mad:

[gwens29]

thi sis to the thread started i read ur post and it made me smile i total agree with you lol they should have to abide by better laws :)

[Peanut818]

I believe the laws should change regarding who family members are when a man or woman is in the Service. Seems if the person is married the spouce is only one considered the relative and the heck with the parents who raised them and made them into the person they were. We had them longer and loved them just as much. The benefits for the burial should be given to the one who plans and arranges the funeral and to make sure the money is used as such. We as his parents didnt recieve a dime for anything but did have to pay for things the goverment didnt,hench the extra 12,000 for expences the spouce recieved. I think the laws should change the way they hand out this money. Its a sad thing when someone is made "rich" on the death of your child while parents struggle not only with coping with the death of their child but the expences also.


I'm sorry for your loss, but I must ask even though I probably shouldn't, but what kind of wife let's her husbands parents make the funeral arrangements? Give input fine, but to plan and pay for??????????/ :rolleyes: :confused: I'll tell ya what if my DH or DS passed tomorrow no one but me would be making the arrangements or paying for it.

[Peanut818]

Another law they should instate is that new hand gun technology law. There is this new technology (that was shot down by the NRA no surprise) that would make it so that when you buy a gun the only person that could fire it would be the purchaser. Anyone else who tries to fire it not function.


I don't agree, my DH has used my brothers guns to make sure he likes shooting them before he buys one, so that has saved a heck of a lot of money and furthermore, DH works second shift and I have no interest in guns, but I know how to use them and by damned if someone broke into my house while DH wasn't here and I had to protect my DS and me the gun BETTER work.

[Kyla Kym]

Now ain't that something. :mad: The goverment expects up to give up our children and they can do us that way!?! To me it's like they are sending kids and not men over there anyway. My son will be 18 before I know it, and if the goverment thinks he is still to much of a baby to drink for another 3 years, then in my opinion he is still to young to lay down his life. I want Bush to send his little spoiled girls over their. They are plenty old enough to fight in this war. His daughters are no better than my son. If he wants kids to be shot at, then he can send them first! :mad:

gobs you are so right!! And I hate it so much that you have had to deal with all this. I can't imagine how much you must suffer. :(

[Peanut818]

I'd like to know why its a law (in most places) that a dog must be on a leash.......but not a freaking cat!!! :mad:

why is it a law that you must pooper scoop after your dog when walking it, but cats can feel free to crap anywhere and everywhere! (including on my front step!!! :eek: )

why is it a law that i cant have my stereo turned up after 10pm, but my neighbors can leave their dog out ALL DAY AND NIGHT barking for no reason!!??
(i dont do that with my stereo, thats just an example)


I agree with you on the cat thing, I had a cat crap on one of my outside christmas decorations, but my real beef is I live in amish country you know the horse and buggies? I have to clean up after my dog, but the horses can crap wherever and whenever and they don't have to clean it up even though it is where I walk my dog????? FAIR?????????? I DON'T THINK SO

[Peanut818]

I think it is wrong that when a child is put in foster care because their parents screwed up, that their other relatives (aunts, uncles, grandparents) aren't ever allowed to see them again. My brother's children got taken away 5 years ago because his girlfriend abused their son. We haven't been allowed to see them or even send them a card because "extended family has no rights." It's not fair that we are expected to turn off our feelings and the kids are supposed to think we don't care about them.


I AGREE 100% with you, this is not right

[Peanut818]

Now ain't that something. :mad: The goverment expects up to give up our children and they can do us that way!?! To me it's like they are sending kids and not men over there anyway. My son will be 18 before I know it, and if the goverment thinks he is still to much of a baby to drink for another 3 years, then in my opinion he is still to young to lay down his life. I want Bush to send his little spoiled girls over their. They are plenty old enough to fight in this war. His daughters are no better than my son. If he wants kids to be shot at, then he can send them first! :mad:

gobs you are so right!! And I hate it so much that you have had to deal with all this. I can't imagine how much you must suffer. :(


I think it's crazy kids are old enough to vote, smoke, buy lottery tickets and be sent into war, but not drink, there is something wrong there. :confused:

[Peanut818]

I'd like to know why...If I put my kids in a car without a seatbelt, I'll get a ticket but the school system can stick them on a bus without a seatbelt. Not a single school bus in ths town has seatbelts. :mad:


If you wouldn't have brought it up I would have, it's crazy we get fined for not having our seatbelts on or having the kids in car seat till they are 8, we have to wear seat belts and peddle bike riders have to wear helmets, but kids don't wear seatbelts on the school bus and motorcyclist don't have to wear helmets?

[tracey74]

well as for the running around naked law some people I know that if they could run around naked would scare me and Id spend the rest of my life in therapy.and I cant afford therapy lmao.thats why they have nudist colonies.so some people who wed rather not see naked can be lol(im just joking and having fun no need to flame here lol)

[Bud_Girl76]

I'd like to know why...If I put my kids in a car without a seatbelt, I'll get a ticket but the school system can stick them on a bus without a seatbelt. Not a single school bus in ths town has seatbelts. :mad:


I agree and that's why my kids don't ride the bus.. I drive them to school everyday and pick them up..

[Shann]

I'd like to know why...If I put my kids in a car without a seatbelt, I'll get a ticket but the school system can stick them on a bus without a seatbelt. Not a single school bus in ths town has seatbelts. :mad:

I'm not arguing w/ you, but when I worked for a school bus company we were shown videos where they did tests that showed kids were safer w/o the seatbelts than w/. I know that sounds weird, but a bus takes impact a lot better than a normal vehicle. If one were to rearend a bus, their vehicle would suffer a lot of damage where as a bus may have a few scratches on the bumper. I also found these links: the first one has both sides of the issue http://www.familyeducation.com/article/0,1120,1-4330,00.html http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/buses/pub/seatbelt.hmp.html
Here's a bit of info from the first link as to why seatbelts are not used:
~Seat belts are of no value in the majority of fatal accidents.
~More children are killed around school buses -- walking to and from the school bus stop -- than inside school buses.
~No data proves conclusively that seat belts reduce fatalities or injuries on school buses.
~School buses are specifically designed with safety in mind. They are heavier and experience less crash force than smaller cars and trucks. School buses also have high padded seats specifically design to absorb impact.
~There is no guarantee that once installed students will use seatbelts. ~Studies have shown that mixed and improper use of seat belts can increase the risk of injuries.
~There is concern that seat belts could be used as weapons to strike or choke other passengers.
~Money proposed for seat belt installation could be better spent on other safety measures.
I would like to state, that I am not arguing w/ you, just putting some facts out there that I learned when working at a bus barn. Of course if your child goes to school in a car seat or in a van/car/suv they are required to buckle up since it's a regular vehicle. I do know that here in Las Vegas, they are debating this very issue also and it sounds like the new buses will have seatbelts on them.

Now for me, the one thing that drives me buggy is that cops are suppose to be role models but yet we see them speeding by,not using proper signals, running lights w/o lights on and it's ok. I think that if we have to follow the laws, they should have to follow them, right down to the T. If they cannot, I think they should find another profession where they don't stick out to society. You'd think they hold themsevles to a higher standard. :(

[llbriteyes]

I SO agree with this one! How many lives could be saved with those organs!

Linda



Well it isn’t actually a law but I think it would be nice if instead of a death sentence being just electrocution or lethal injection there should be organ removal as a choice. Prisoners could choose to donate their organs to the donor bank (they’d have to sign a waiver first) and let them die on the operating table. At least their lives would bring about some good for the bad they cause other people through their actions.

[llbriteyes]

I agree with the death sentencing. I believe NO ONE should be put to death unless there is IRREFUTABLE evidence, like DNA or an eyewitness. Once the sentence has been passed, one year and yer gone. These days, death means life.

RE: Child rapists... They should die. Period.

Linda



I believe that if you are sentenced to death. then you should die within a year. that is 1 year. not 7, 15, or 25 years down the road. Once you are given a sentence, then a date should be set a year from then, that will give you plenty of time for appeals, if any should need be. I do realize that there are some people who are wrongly accused, but with all the DNA tech. and all the technology they have out there, we should be able to have things figured out fast. and honestly if people were to start dieing when they are given a death sentence I honestly think that people who stop doing what they are doing, as long as it is enforced. If no one enforces it, who is going to be scared.



Also, I have one more,

why is that child molesters are allowed to walk free? I don't care how much time you spent in prison, you stole someone's life, their innocence, you have no reason to live or have the same rights as your victims. Once you have taken something from another human life, then yours should be done.

I am sorry but this one hits home hard for me. I would love to kill, the animal that hurt my nephews and niece.


ok getting off my soap box.......................

[llbriteyes]

The laws must have changed on this in so many years. My parents fostered 32 children over a period of eight years. Every two weeks, the kids would go for visitation with their family. That included whomever wanted to see them. The families were also allowed to send presents, cards, letters, etc. to them at anytime.

Back then (30 years or so) it was the goal to get the children back with the parents no matter what. I can't tell you the amount of times we got certain kids back for the same reasons we had them in the first place.

Linda


QUOTE=mimi37]I think it is wrong that when a child is put in foster care because their parents screwed up, that their other relatives (aunts, uncles, grandparents) aren't ever allowed to see them again. My brother's children got taken away 5 years ago because his girlfriend abused their son. We haven't been allowed to see them or even send them a card because "extended family has no rights." It's not fair that we are expected to turn off our feelings and the kids are supposed to think we don't care about them.[/QUOTE]

[llbriteyes]

Gross story time... If you don't want to read it, don't scroll past the quoted message.




How about the law where ya cant run around naked!

Im sorry but i just dont like to wear clothes all the time.....lol





Last weekend I went to my mother's house, where I met my sister, her daughter and husband, and my father. We went to an auction. and then all had lunch, and then the girls and I went yard saling. At some point in the day, and I suspect it was at lunch, the jeans I was wearing sort of pulled apart (my favorites too!). A little tear. I didn't notice it until we got back to Mom's and was sitting on the porch yapping. All of a sudden, my pants split! From hip to knee!

I don't normally wear underclothing because I find it too confining. So EVERYTHING was showing. My mother told me she could see clear to New York! Wonderful. I wondered exactly how long my butt was hanging out, and who all saw it. lol

After that, my sister, who lives a few miles from Mom's (I live 35 miles from her), and who is the same size as I am offered a pair of her jeans. She said she didn't want them back! lol

Anywho, after that we decided to drive to Pt. Pleasant, WV (from Columbus, Ohio) at 6:00 p.m. to see the mothman. Got horribly lost in very scary territory, and didn't even get to see the mothman (who we now affectionately call "Mothra."

Linda

[llbriteyes]

I think I'm a closet Nudist.

Linda




well as for the running around naked law some people I know that if they could run around naked would scare me and Id spend the rest of my life in therapy.and I cant afford therapy lmao.thats why they have nudist colonies.so some people who wed rather not see naked can be lol(im just joking and having fun no need to flame here lol)

[YNKYH8R]

I don't agree, my DH has used my brothers guns to make sure he likes shooting them before he buys one, so that has saved a heck of a lot of money and furthermore, DH works second shift and I have no interest in guns, but I know how to use them and by damned if someone broke into my house while DH wasn't here and I had to protect my DS and me the gun BETTER work.
Well in your husbands case if he wanted to test out a hand gun then he should go to gun shop with a firing range to try them out. (that is if this technology was actualy in effect.) Plus, for the ammount of money some people pay for home security you could buy two guns. Otherwise it is just one of those draw backs. :o :)

[gobs101]

I'm sorry for your loss, but I must ask even though I probably shouldn't, but what kind of wife let's her husbands parents make the funeral arrangements? Give input fine, but to plan and pay for??????????/ :rolleyes: :confused: I'll tell ya what if my DH or DS passed tomorrow no one but me would be making the arrangements or paying for it.

One who wrote my son a "DEAR JOHN" letter while he was in Iraq. She wanted nothing to do with the service at all, her idea was to have him creamated and buried all in the same day. They were apx 1 month from their divorse being final. The army paid for apx 80% of the funeral and what isnt paid for by the army is to be paid for out of the funeral money alloted, the $12,000 she recieved and kept for herself. It was sad enough we lost our only son but knowing she didnt give a hoot about him and got rich off his death just bothers me. No parent should have to go through this in all decency she should have used the money for what it was intended for not for buying a new car. Sorry if this offends you but there are many more parents who have gone through the same thing for the same reasons. This is why I belive the laws should be changed to not only help the parents but to put less finacial strain on the parents in trying to honor our sons who died in this so called war.

[gobs101]

i'm sorry about your loss but do not understand. did his spouse not arrange and pay for his burial? why on earth would you be expected to pay? my husband is in the military reserves and has the 250,000.00 life insurance policy from the government (on top of his insurance from his reg job). if he made his parents beneficiaries of any of his policies, i would surely divorce him because it would prove to me he didn't love me and care about me and his childrens futures if anything were to happen to him. and if something did happen to him, i would NEVER expect his parents to cover his funeral expenses.........they could help with ideas/suggestions....but i would not take any money from them.

She wanted nothing to do with the arrangments due to them getting a divorse. My son did leave the insurance in her name because of his son. Unfortunatly its all spent already.

[Njean31]

She wanted nothing to do with the arrangments due to them getting a divorse. My son did leave the insurance in her name because of his son. Unfortunatly its all spent already.


oh, i understand now.........they were seperated and almost divorced. i understand why you would be upset. and omg, she has already spent ALL of his SGLI? i'm sorry, that would have me seeing red to. you son should have left it to go to a trust fund for their son instead of leaving her in control. i do know that if me and my husband divorced, that would be one of the first things on his list of to do's...........change his beneficiaries.

[YankeeMary]

I do not think there should be a seat belt law for people over the age of 18...I ALWAYS wear my seat belt!!! I just don't think someone has the right to "make" me wear it if I didn't want to. It is no ones business if I get in a wreck without my belt on. It only affects ME. I could see if if not wearing my seatbelt would affect the other driver but it doesn't...know what I mean??? I feel the same way about helmets. I would never ride a motorcycle without a helmet, but if I wanted to then it would be my business, no one elses. I understand the theory and thoughts behind helmets and seatbelts and they are a fantastic idea, but it a personal preference IMO.
I really dislike the fact that laws are made but only upheld by some not all, drives me crazy, like cops speeding and talking on a cell phone. I can't tell you how many cops I see driving around on a cell phone.

[MamaFairal]

she should have used the money for what it was intended for not for buying a new car.

Gobs~ i am not intending to offend or stir up emotions here but i hope just once your son "haunts" her while she is drivin her nice new car.

((HUGS))

[freebielover]

I do not think there should be a seat belt law for people over the age of 18...I ALWAYS wear my seat belt!!! I just don't think someone has the right to "make" me wear it if I didn't want to. It is no ones business if I get in a wreck without my belt on. It only affects ME. I could see if if not wearing my seatbelt would affect the other driver but it doesn't...know what I mean??? I feel the same way about helmets. I would never ride a motorcycle without a helmet, but if I wanted to then it would be my business, no one elses. I understand the theory and thoughts behind helmets and seatbelts and they are a fantastic idea, but it a personal preference IMO.
I really dislike the fact that laws are made but only upheld by some not all, drives me crazy, like cops speeding and talking on a cell phone. I can't tell you how many cops I see driving around on a cell phone.


I must disagree, everyone should be forced to wear a seatbelt. They proved that more people die in accidents from having a person in the car not wearing a seatbelt than from just not wearing one. If you have someone behind you not wearing one and you are belted in and you get in an accident they are coming up through your seat and they are going to injure you. People should be intelligent enough to wear one without a law but if it wasn't the law most people probably wouldn't wear them then boo hoo when they got injured in an accident. There is really not many excuses to not wear them, especially with those stupid airbags, now those things scare me.

[3lilpigs]

I just have one question to all of you who dont think you (or your children) should have to wear a seatbelt..........
WOULD YOU PUT YOUR CHILD ON A ROLLERCOASTER....OR ANY OTHER AMUSEMENT PARK RIDE....WITH OUT BEING STRAPPED IN?


and as for it only affecting the person who doesnt wear one....well i sure hope your not in an accident near me one day, and i have to see your body slam through the front window, and be thrown dead to the ground. im pretty sure that would affect me, and possibly anyone who was a witness.

perhaps it shouldnt be a law to have to wear a seatbelt.......but as soon as your injured in an accident, and your not wearing a seatbelt, im willing to bet, your gonna sue someone because of your injuries for not wearing one.

things are a lot different now than they were when ''most of us here'' were kids. i have heard my parents say how they brought me home from the hospital HOLDING ME IN THE FRONT SEAT! :eek: true, they thought nothing of it. im sure it was semi-safe back then, but in the past 20-30 years, the traffic on the roads has more than tripled.....the speed limits now in some places are 70MPH!!!..cars are made to go much faster...and road rage is a huge problem everywhere, and innocent people are often the victims. i just think its common sense to wear one. JMHO.

getting off my high horse now! :D

[Njean31]

here's what happened when i choose not to wear my seatbelt (because it was cold and i was sitting up close to the dashboard trying to get warm) for the first time. i had just left my house and had got up to speed (about 50 mph) and smack................. some woman just pulls right out in front of me. the scars are permenant. i was lucky though, had my son with me (of course he was strapped in his car seat, he got hurt a little still though) and it could have been much worse. i ALWAYS wear my seatbelt now.

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[freebielover]

Oh my god, that must have hurt. Thank goodness you were OK.

[dianepost]

it's the government once again telling us what we have to do...
i personally had two friends that were wearing seatbelts that were in car crashes and could not get the belt to unlatch, sadly, one of them died in a fiery flame.
i wear my seatbelt only because i am an idiot and have to obey the law, i think this should be a personal decision, if i want to die from lung cancer and smoke i can, if i want to drink myself to death i can.. if i want to fly threw the windshield of a car i should be able to.. LOL
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[Bud_Girl76]

it's the government once again telling us what we have to do...
i personally had two friends that were wearing seatbelts that were in car crashes and could not get the belt to unlatch, sadly, one of them died in a fiery flame.
i wear my seatbelt only because i am an idiot and have to obey the law, i think this should be a personal decision, if i want to die from lung cancer and smoke i can, if i want to drink myself to death i can.. if i want to fly threw the windshield of a car i should be able to.. LOL
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I agree.. I always wear seatbelt since the laws have changed.. But I had 8 very close friends of mine die because of that seatbelt..

[freebielover]

And I've had 2 people I went to high school with die, one got hit by a drunk driver and the person in the back was not buckled and they were, if the person in the back was buckled they would all have survived, another one was speeding and went around a corner and hit a tree and was ejected. The seatbelt would have definitely saved her life. There are cases on both sides, but the majority of people survive because of the seatbelt. If you don't want to wear it when you are driving and all alone thats fine, but to be in a vehicle with someone else, when you hit something you become a projectile, potentially risking another persons life, how fair is that?

[YankeeMary]

I must disagree, everyone should be forced to wear a seatbelt. They proved that more people die in accidents from having a person in the car not wearing a seatbelt than from just not wearing one. If you have someone behind you not wearing one and you are belted in and you get in an accident they are coming up through your seat and they are going to injure you. People should be intelligent enough to wear one without a law but if it wasn't the law most people probably wouldn't wear them then boo hoo when they got injured in an accident. There is really not many excuses to not wear them, especially with those stupid airbags, now those things scare me.
I respect your opinion but opinions are made into laws that infringe on my rights. I don't even go to the mailbox without my belton but I still hate that "I have to".

[YankeeMary]

I just have one question to all of you who dont think you (or your children) should have to wear a seatbelt..........
WOULD YOU PUT YOUR CHILD ON A ROLLERCOASTER....OR ANY OTHER AMUSEMENT PARK RIDE....WITH OUT BEING STRAPPED IN?
Just for the record...my children have never been without a car seat, booster or a selt belt!!!
and as for it only affecting the person who doesnt wear one....well i sure hope your not in an accident near me one day, and i have to see your body slam through the front window, and be thrown dead to the ground. im pretty sure that would affect me, and possibly anyone who was a witness.
I agree I wouldn't want to see that either, by not wearing a seat belt it isn't affecting anyones ability to drive.

perhaps it shouldnt be a law to have to wear a seatbelt.......but as soon as your injured in an accident, and your not wearing a seatbelt, im willing to bet, your gonna sue someone because of your injuries for not wearing one.

If this is meant for me you are sooo wrong about me. I was injured at work and the injury has resulted in a permanet disability and I have completely been robbed of my livelyhood...I was working with a machine and it was "red tagged" by OSHA (SP?) my boss demanded I use the machine (that or lose my job, not an option, I was a single momma of 2), I use the machine and now I can't ever work and I didn't sue then. I had attorneys calling me to sue and I still didn't. I am not one to sue.

I think it is great to make it madatory to wear seatbelts until some reaches 18 then they should be allowed to choose.

[justme23]

I think I semi agree w/ being able to choose whether you want to wear a belt or not... I would prefer not to go w/out mine... and after reading this, I may even insist that ppl in the back sear wear theirs too... but I will say, my cousin has totalled two vehicles... first she rolled her truck and was thrown from the cab into a corn field... had she not been thrown, had she been wearing her belt... she would have died... she broke her back, but a broken back is better than no back to break at all. The second time she pulled out in front of an 18 wheeler and he tboned her... had she not been wearing her belt that time she would have died... so, either way, she got lucky and we are happy to have her w/ us (altho, she's running out of lives!) but it just goes to show that all accidents are unique and you just never know what will happen.

[Kyla Kym]

I haven't gotten to read this whole thread yet, but I will latter. I just skimmed over it since the last time I had a chance to look, and it seems like there is allot of discussion about if we should be forced to wear seatbelt or not.

I just wanted to say that when I started this thread that I wasn't trying to start a debate if we should or shouldn't wear them. I was pointing out about being forced to wear one when people on motorcycles are driving on the same streets and going the same speeds, practically wearing HWY camouflage (black), no special lights or anything, they aren't force to protect themselves in the least bit.

I never said that seatbelt aren't a good idea, only that it's a unfair law if it doesn't apply to everyone driving on the same roads regardless of what they are driving.


Hope everyone had a good weekend! We sorta did :)

[freebielover]

Its ok, it was a friendly debate it didn't get nasty. I drive a motorcycle but I notice I'm put in danger not because I wear black or I don't have good enough lights but because people in their SUVs, and minivans (no offense but these are the people I see typicall driving like morons) are too full of themselves to notice you on the road. Case in point, Saturday it was beautiful so my fiance and I went for a motorcycle ride. We were driving in the city and this woman decides that we don't take up enough space and she tries to pass us on the right on a one lane road. She kept creeping up and damn near killed me because she thought she could sneak around me! Obviously bikes can't wear seatbelts for obvious reasons but around here you must wear a helmet and I always wear white or pink not black, and my lights are plenty enough for me to see and for people to see me. If you're intelligent when you brake you flicker the brake light a few times so people can see them better and the directionals are more than bright and I typically don't ride at night so I personally don't see a problem with the laws. I guess some people don't exercise caution on bikes but most people do.

[YankeeMary]

That's funny SUV drivers full of themselves....lol...I drive and SUV...I didn't think of me as that way but hey could be true..hehe....sorry I just thought it was funny...

[Night Wolf]

Is that from the saying biggest vehicle on the road wins?

Some motorcycle drivers scare me, today for example, the guy passed so close I thought he was gonna take my mirror off. I don't have a motorcycle, I'd be way to scare to drive on any road but especially the freeway. I think it would be more dangerous to have a seatbelt on a motorcycle, if you crash it'd hold you on and drag you down the road. :eek:

(I don't have anything against motorcyclist, actually all types of vehicles scare me with the wrong driver in/on them)

[justme23]

Speaking of motorcycles... we saw the craziest thing tonight... If I had a cellphone I would have called the law so fast... a guy in the hov lane... LAYING DOWN... I suppose to let the air flow over him easier... I don't know... atleast he was wearing a helmet, so when his momma has to bury him his head will be in one piece.

[Dragonfairie]

This one just started today and I am POED!

You must REGISTER to purchase a box of Tylenol allergy medication....the store must write your name and address into a log and keep it on hand, you cannot buy more than two packages at one time and they must keep video cameras on the packaegs, or only have one pakage at a time on the shelf or keep them behind the counter....

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This one just started today and I am POED!

You must REGISTER to purchase a box of Tylenol allergy medication....the store must write your name and address into a log and keep it on hand, you cannot buy more than two packages at one time and they must keep video cameras on the packaegs, or only have one pakage at a time on the shelf or keep them behind the counter....

UGHN< what a pain. I hope that's not in Missouri.

Seriously?
How is there a meth problem with all of this? I'm not comprehending??

I don't know if it's "law" or wal*mart policy, but we're not allowed to buy more than 2 boxes of any one cold medicine.

[kimmylg]

I'm not arguing w/ you, but when I worked for a school bus company we were shown videos where they did tests that showed kids were safer w/o the seatbelts than w/. I know that sounds weird, but a bus takes impact a lot better than a normal vehicle. If one were to rearend a bus, their vehicle would suffer a lot of damage where as a bus may have a few scratches on the bumper. I also found these links: the first one has both sides of the issue http://www.familyeducation.com/article/0,1120,1-4330,00.html http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/buses/pub/seatbelt.hmp.html
Here's a bit of info from the first link as to why seatbelts are not used:
~Seat belts are of no value in the majority of fatal accidents.
~More children are killed around school buses -- walking to and from the school bus stop -- than inside school buses.
~No data proves conclusively that seat belts reduce fatalities or injuries on school buses.
~School buses are specifically designed with safety in mind. They are heavier and experience less crash force than smaller cars and trucks. School buses also have high padded seats specifically design to absorb impact.
~There is no guarantee that once installed students will use seatbelts. ~Studies have shown that mixed and improper use of seat belts can increase the risk of injuries.
~There is concern that seat belts could be used as weapons to strike or choke other passengers.
~Money proposed for seat belt installation could be better spent on other safety measures.
I would like to state, that I am not arguing w/ you, just putting some facts out there that I learned when working at a bus barn. Of course if your child goes to school in a car seat or in a van/car/suv they are required to buckle up since it's a regular vehicle. I do know that here in Las Vegas, they are debating this very issue also and it sounds like the new buses will have seatbelts on them.

Now for me, the one thing that drives me buggy is that cops are suppose to be role models but yet we see them speeding by,not using proper signals, running lights w/o lights on and it's ok. I think that if we have to follow the laws, they should have to follow them, right down to the T. If they cannot, I think they should find another profession where they don't stick out to society. You'd think they hold themsevles to a higher standard. :(



Thank you for posting this. I have been a school bus driver for 7 years and I would like to add this point to ponder:

Imagine a fire on a school bus. Imagine one driver responsible for evacuating 60-70 children. Now add seat belts. Not pretty. Fatal.

[iluvmybaby]

A friend of mine was in a car accident when he was 16, he flew through the front windsheild of the car and hit the ground so hard he left an inprint, he struggled to recover from his injuries for years, even had to have three or four brain surgeries to relieve internal presesure. Point is, it takes ONE minute to clip it on, buy yourself an adjuster if it bothers your neck by rubbing on it ((that is what I do)) but your life is too precious to throw it away on one stupid little fender bender

[freebielover]

Speaking of motorcycles... we saw the craziest thing tonight... If I had a cellphone I would have called the law so fast... a guy in the hov lane... LAYING DOWN... I suppose to let the air flow over him easier... I don't know... atleast he was wearing a helmet, so when his momma has to bury him his head will be in one piece.


Yeah it was for less air resistance, thus you can ride faster. Some bikes are actually designed like that, zip splats. They're fast and the way the handle bars are set up you do have to pretty much lie down to ride on them. I prefer cruising bikes myself, just hang out and enjoy the day. As to the tylenol, that sucks, no other word for it. Are we going to see the day where everything we buy we have to have approval for?

[justme23]

This one just started today and I am POED!

You must REGISTER to purchase a box of Tylenol allergy medication....the store must write your name and address into a log and keep it on hand, you cannot buy more than two packages at one time and they must keep video cameras on the packaegs, or only have one pakage at a time on the shelf or keep them behind the counter....

I LIKE this law... since allergy medications are most used for making methamphetamines and it took them YEARS to do anything about it... I know it's a pain in the arse to go through all the trouble for a box of allergy medication, but if it keeps even one meth lab from being able to produce, then it is a good thing in my opinion... not trying to be arguementative, I can imagine, even liking the new laws, that I would be annoyed at having to go through all the trouble too.

[Night Wolf]

Are we going to see the day where everything we buy we have to have approval for?

We'll probably end up with bar codes like that bank commercial (except somewhere more convenient like your wrist) and it will come up on their computer what you can/can't buy.
Now that's a scary thought. :eek: :mad:

[YNKYH8R]

This one just started today and I am POED!

You must REGISTER to purchase a box of Tylenol allergy medication....the store must write your name and address into a log and keep it on hand, you cannot buy more than two packages at one time and they must keep video cameras on the packaegs, or only have one pakage at a time on the shelf or keep them behind the counter....
In some states they are doing the same thing with over the counter cough syrup. Shame.

[chanbe]

On a lighter note............Laws that really bug me.......My "IN"-laws :D !!

[tracey74]

the reason they lock up the cold and allergy products is that most contain ephedrine or pseudoephedrine one of the key ingredients to making meth.its a big problem here too youd know who was making it cause youd see them in a few diff stores buying cold meds,charcoal,lighter fluid,etc.you wouldnt believe the chemicals in meth.try looking it up.but I cant blame the stores.people Ive seen go to the store in carloads and everyone in the car goes in to buy these ingredients.(Ive seen it too many times) and most of the time they dont by anything else so you KNOW what theyre up to and it makes it hard for allergy sufferers like me to buy these products cause if theyre on sale and you buy more than they think you should then they watch you the next timeyou come in.personally I buy 2 boxes at the dollar store cause one I dont shop much and 2 I personally think the cheapere ones work better.but point is I think its a good idea because these makers dont care WHO they sell to including kids.and people actually do lose their lives to making this drug.they get blown up.and inhaling the fumes can kill you I heard on the news a few months ago these people were making it in the home where they ran a daycare and the kids got deathly sick from inhaling the fumes not to mention they could have blown sky high.so I think its a good thing to keep this kind of stuff locked up.

[Dragonfairie]

Seriously?
How is there a meth problem with all of this? I'm not comprehending??



Psuedophedrine from cold and allergy meds are used in the making of meth.

Yes, it is a problem that needs to be dealt with, although I say let them take it til they expire, the meth labs will just move onto a different chemical. They just need an amino acid, they used to boil red ants for the chemical they needed but it was easier to go buy cold meds than gather up ants...

The law is a band-aid, not a cure.

[*lilo*]

i think peanut said something along the lines that at the age of 18 you can fight for our country, smoke, and other things but you cant drink...you totally read my mind :) 'sure lil timmy you're 18 you can now die for your country but dont you dare have a drop of booze!'. im sorry but if the govt gives one of the age of 18 the choice to die for our country they should damned well be able to get a beer if they want it!

[3lilpigs]

i'd rather have 'lil timmy' out there fighting for our country, than driving drunk on the road and possibly killing an innocent person.

too bad there isnt a 'common sense' test instead of having to be 21 to drink. even some over 21 are too immature to drink.

[Freebeemom]

I think that the ablility for a foreign born person to come in and open up a small business and PAY NO TAXES FOR 7 YEARS is an outrage. Many of these business owners pass the businesses along to other foreign born people (Relatives) so they are paying no local or state income tax. REDICULOUS!! :mad:

[aneisu]

i think peanut said something along the lines that at the age of 18 you can fight for our country, smoke, and other things but you cant drink...you totally read my mind :) 'sure lil timmy you're 18 you can now die for your country but dont you dare have a drop of booze!'. im sorry but if the govt gives one of the age of 18 the choice to die for our country they should damned well be able to get a beer if they want it!

If an 18 year old enlists they can drink on base.

[*lilo*]

i'd rather have 'lil timmy' out there fighting for our country, than driving drunk on the road and possibly killing an innocent person.

too bad there isnt a 'common sense' test instead of having to be 21 to drink. even some over 21 are too immature to drink.

an 18 year old can drive drunk, yes, but so could a 24 yr old or a 55 yr old...stupidity knows no age difference :)

as for them being able to drink on base, what about those who can not get base housing? that still means they cant purchase it either. army laws are silly imo, not all but some.

[Kyla Kym]

If an 18 year old enlists they can drink on base.
I think I was the one that originally said something about this.

What I was saying was if my son is 3 years to young to drink here in the USA then he is way to young to give up his life. I can't stand the thoughts of boys being sent over their. I think they should at least be of drinking age before they are sent. My son will be 18 in Nov. and I can't see him yet as a mature adult ready to make those type of decisions. I don't see any of his friends ready for that either. They aren't mature mentally yet. Boys that are 18 are still thinking about playing with car stereo's, video games, girls, skateboards, etc...

I think our government knows a 18 year old boy still has that Rambo mentality and basically thinks he is invincible and will go over there and save the world! Or it will be a big party like on M*A*S*H. But when they get over there it's nothing like what they were expecting. And also they the government promises these young boys the world if they join and rarely do these boys see what was promised to them. And if they do let them drink on base at 18, that is just another way our government has to lure children to fight their battles and die.


I still think the heads of government & their family's should have to be the ones on the front lines. They should be the ones risking their life's first since they start these damn wars....bet their wouldn't be such thing as war if that was the case.

**edited to add**
I also want to say if our government is so proud of these men and children they are sending over their to die for our country, then why do they barely make enough money to survive on? I say stop paying some of the fat cats on the hills big mega bucks and give them barely enough to survive and give their big fat paychecks to our American heroes!! The money they spend on some of the stupid parties up at the white house could make life so much easier for some of our boys if they would give them that money instead...but I guess the government boys are just sooooo tired from playing toy soldiers with our sons and daughters that they need the parties to help them unwind. :rolleyes:

[freebielover]

i'd rather have 'lil timmy' out there fighting for our country, than driving drunk on the road and possibly killing an innocent person.

too bad there isnt a 'common sense' test instead of having to be 21 to drink. even some over 21 are too immature to drink.


I agree, I know some people in their mid 30s that are still too stupid and immature to drink, and I know some 18 year olds that can handle the responsibility just fine. Same thing with driving, who the heck decided that at 16 (in my state) you are old enough to drive. Again, at 16 I was responsible enough, some of my friends were psychotic on the road. Now if we only had a maximum age you could drive at, or did more testing for elderly drivers.

[Freebeemom]

"I think our government knows a 18 year old boy still has that Rambo mentality and basically thinks he is invincible and will go over there and save the world! Or it will be a big party like on M*A*S*H. But when they get over there it's nothing like what they were expecting. And also they the government promises these young boys the world if they join and rarely do these boys see what was promised to them. And if they do let them drink on base at 18, that is just another way our government has to lure children to fight their battles and die.


I still think the heads of government & their family's should have to be the ones on the front lines. They should be the ones risking their life's first since they start these damn wars....bet their wouldn't be such thing as war if that was the case."

It used to be this way. It also used to be that Military participants were not as easily accessable by their famililes. IN MY OPINOIN, it is impossible to be in the military and carry on a decent family life or even fully do what you are supposed to in Combat. It is like you said...The gov. is sending kids over to do their job...well, yes, that is the point of having a standing army. Let them drink. I Don't know that they are that strict about it...I honestly don't. But as much as I hate the idea of having an army or going to war, we need to maintain a standing army. Their pay is not that much due to the fact that the gov. wants them hooked and wants them dependent on their job. Sorry, but an Army is not supposed to be an emotional job. (In the government's eyes). I don't know how many of you military wives or even those that serve can deal with this type of emotion in the military.

[hblueeyes]

I think that the ablility for a foreign born person to come in and open up a small business and PAY NO TAXES FOR 7 YEARS is an outrage. Many of these business owners pass the businesses along to other foreign born people (Relatives) so they are paying no local or state income tax. REDICULOUS!!

I so totally agree. The purpose of taxes is to pay for services like, police, fire, libraries,school, streets, etc. They benefit from these services so they should have to pay. But additionally, I also think it is wrong when they bring over great grand pa, put him on the payroll for a few months and then he retires and collects social security benefits and moves back home (or stays).
Or the various programs where they can come here and collect SSI or qualify for programs paid by our tax dollars, that allow them to open up businesses. And we wonder why Socila Security is in trouble.

Here is my state law pet peve.

Illinois voters would not vote to pass Illinois having a lottery. They said what if all the profits go for education. It passed. That is now the only money that goes to education. The hundreds of millions that were once earmarked for education prior to the lottery is money that goes into the general fund which is used for their pet projects.

The law that says that if you serve 1 term in office that you are entitled to a pension for life and the law that allows them to give themselve giant raises while cutting services to the people. I think if they want a raise, since they work for us, we should vote on it.

Thanks for letting me rant.

Me :p

[hblueeyes]

people who do not poop scoop after their dogs.


And soon in Illinois there will be caps on the amount of $$$ a person can get from medical malpractice. Just recently 2 people , 1 man and 1 woman at 2 different hospitals, had their doctors operate on the wrong side of their brains. Under the soon to be new law they would be limited in the amount they can receive. maybe if hospitals and doctors did not cover up for those that are incompetent and if those incompetent doctors lost their licenses to practice, medical mistakes would be fewer and less costly.

Me :p

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I don't like Missouri's law..if a woman hits her husband back in self-defense, she is cuffed, fingerprinted & placed in jail.
I think the law will lead to women in fear of calling the police after being hit..because in a rage she hit back or worse, she's afraid her husband will LIE & say she did hit him back to get even..

I really don't like our law..