View Full Version : Is this legal? landlord stuff...
sharinbo
05-09-2005, 10:21 AM
We are in the process of moving out of that house in the ghetto area of town, and into my mom's. We never had a formal rental agreement with the landlord, but lived there for several months. We are behind on the rent and told him we would finish getting things out today. He just left a message on hubby's phone saying he is inside the house, bagging up our belongings. He gave us no notice that he was going to enter the house, and he has not given us an eviction notice. Can he legally be in the house messing with our things?
HELP!
Shari
Bud_Girl76
05-09-2005, 10:23 AM
We are in the process of moving out of that house in the ghetto area of town, and into my mom's. We never had a formal rental agreement with the landlord, but lived there for several months. We are behind on the rent and told him we would finish getting things out today. He just left a message on hubby's phone saying he is inside the house, bagging up our belongings. He gave us no notice that he was going to enter the house, and he has not given us an eviction notice. Can he legally be in the house messing with our things?
HELP!
Shari
I don't think he can do that without telling you first but I'm not quite sure.. I would be calling the police and letting them know becuase what if stuff is missing.. I hope things work out for you.. Keep us informed..
MamaFairal
05-09-2005, 10:38 AM
i would also be calling the poilce and asking them to meet you at the house as a stand-by so you know for sure thelandlord doesnt mess with your stuff.
Act fast!
janelle
05-09-2005, 10:42 AM
ABSOLUTELY NOT. We had so called renters in our house but they only paid the first months rent. Our lawyer told us we could not go into the house, change locks, or anything. This has to be handled by the courts. He would be charged with trasspassing I would think. Call the police. He can't touch your belongings.
*lilo*
05-09-2005, 10:42 AM
even though you had no formal lease with him, you would fall under the month to month type of a renter. however, i do believe that he must go through an eviction process before being able to take control of your house and the possessions therein. each state has different laws though, so you might want to check those for your state. as others have said call the cops and have them escort you to the house.
buttrfli
05-09-2005, 10:46 AM
ABSOLUTELY NOT. We had so called renters in our house but they only paid the first months rent. Our lawyer told us we could not go into the house, change locks, or anything. This has to be handled by the courts. He would be charged with trasspassing I would think. Call the police. He can't touch your belongings.
Yep, what she said.
Eyore
05-09-2005, 10:47 AM
He must give 24 hours notice if he wants to enter the house. He must give 30 days notice for you to be out and you are suppose to give 30 days notice that your moving out.
My sister in law has some rental property and there is a legal way for evication and what he is doing is not it.
It's not legal, but without a formal agreement, good luck on getting the police to do anything about it. We just went through this 2 months ago. They came in at 3 am and put our stuff out in the rain. Ruined baby books, kids pictures etc. The cops wouldn't do anything because we didn't have a lease, and it was our word against his on when we would be out, even though our rent was paid for a month.
ahippiechic
05-09-2005, 11:06 AM
Where I work, if there month to month or week to week rental agreement has expired, (technecally, no lease...) if they have lived there longer than 28 days, we have to give them 10 days notice to vacate. If they don't, then on the 11th day, we have to file in court. We can't touch any of there belonging until we have the court oder to do so.
If it's during the 1st 28 days, they fall under hotel / motel and we can just change the locks.
one_angel
05-09-2005, 11:07 AM
I am like the others in the fact that I'm pretty sure it isn't legal for him to go into the house and remove your property, but since there is no formal lease or other agreement it might be difficult to get law enforcement or anyone else to do anything. The landlord probably feels he has the right to do this since you are behind on rent and there is no formal contract but that still doesn't make it right. Get your stuff and get out of there as soon as possible!
I really hope you get things squared away and it all works out well for you. :o
vicky122
05-09-2005, 11:10 AM
No he can't. We had renters that were going month to month and they moved out not on good terms. But the moved in the middle of the month and I couldn't go into the apt until the rent was up nor did they have to return the keys.They paid for the month.
So come the first we changed the locks. I do a month to month lease and I make sure everything is covered. Like if you are late 2 weeks then I have the right to change the locks and your deposit is lost. I do a walk through and write the way each room is the screens if I have blinds up and they have to sign the papers.
No move ins only 4 people allowed if you move someone in you are out. I am not a mean person but the income from my apt. is my income nd it is a business. You pay a deposit and if the apt. is given back to me in the same condition I rented out deposit is givan back.
We have a family now thats been there for 3 years and always pays on the first very clean so once a month I have given back 50.00 on there deposit. I will do this untill there is just 100.00 left and thats for juust in case.
sharinbo
05-09-2005, 11:39 AM
We just spoke to him on the phone. Hubby told him he could not legally be in the house without 24 hrs notice. He said, "I own the house and I can go into my own house any time I want to." He left us a note on my mom's door telling us he was going into our house and bagging stuff up. It said he was going in right now and for us to get over there now and left his cell phone number. When hubby called him, he called hubby every name in the book, told him he was a liar, accused him of a bunch of stuff that's not true, etc. He is my mom's landlord, as well, so we won't be living here long. We had already planned to find someplace else, this will just speed us up. Here's the big soap-opera note to all of this. My mom is having an affair with him. He is still married and his wife runs the financial aspect of their landlord stuff. Ugh, what a mess.
freebielover
05-09-2005, 11:49 AM
Nope, he CANNOT go in there and touch your belongings. Can you imagine what a mess it would be if any landlord could go in a tenants house/apartment any time they wanted?? The laws definitely favor tenants not landlords, call the police and have them come down while you get the rest of your stuff out. He can't just waltz in there and touch it.
schsa
05-09-2005, 12:14 PM
If you don't have a formal agreement then everything falls under state laws. Most states give you 30 days notice, require an eviction notice and your landlord cannot come and go as he pleases. He is probably in violation of the law.
Njean31
05-09-2005, 01:19 PM
Here's the big soap-opera note to all of this. My mom is having an affair with him. He is still married and his wife runs the financial aspect of their landlord stuff. Ugh, what a mess.
i don't know about the legality of all of this but........he sure has some big you know whats :eek:....running around like that and claiming whatever he wants :mad:
sharinbo
05-09-2005, 01:43 PM
I had to call the police because he and his adult son had blocked hubby in at that house and were refusing to let him leave and refusing to let him go in. Police came and told him to leave, that it was a civil matter and he needs to serve papers to evict us. Landlord told them we had given notice we were moving. He mentioned the date of that call, and they told him that if that's the case, then we still have a week before he can even say we have to go. So now, he is on the phone with mom, revoking his permission for us to live here with her, and saying he will lie about ever giving permission. He told Bo he will evict mom if he has to, in order to keep us from living with her.
catssass
05-09-2005, 01:51 PM
I agree with everyone else, he CANNOT do this, but I wanted to add , TAKE PHOTOS of everything, document everything, that way if you have to go to court you will have proof of what he did and if HE damages anything, he will have to reimburse(sp?) you, save any messages & notes he leaves you, also for proof and good luck...
MamaFairal
05-09-2005, 02:45 PM
My mom is having an affair with him. He is still married and his wife runs the financial aspect of their landlord stuff. Ugh, what a mess.
OMG what a mess you've gotten yourself into :(
Sounds like he is gonna evict everyone...including MOM
sivohdarba
05-09-2005, 04:22 PM
Since his wife handles all the financial affairs, and he is having ONE with your mom--I think the wifey needs to know so she can boot his butt to the curb and he will know what it feels like to have to find a place to live on short notice! If he is going to evict your mom anyways you have nothing to loose right? :confused:
Barbi_Route66
05-09-2005, 07:19 PM
Call the police!!!
buttrfli
05-09-2005, 07:38 PM
Since his wife handles all the financial affairs, and he is having ONE with your mom--I think the wifey needs to know so she can boot his butt to the curb and he will know what it feels like to have to find a place to live on short notice! If he is going to evict your mom anyways you have nothing to loose right? :confused:
My thoughts exactly.
justme23
05-09-2005, 07:47 PM
I agree w/ the person above... TAKE PICTURES OF EVERYTHING... video would be better... but document document document...
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