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disneymom
12-06-2004, 02:00 PM
Ok, So I thought I had made a GREAT trade with someone from the boards here, well it turns out I didnt. I got burned BAD! I had made a huge trade with someone, and sent my end out in October. It cost me over 10.00 to ship this media. She was suppose to send me a bunch of videos, and toys for my kids for Christmas. I sent her a TON of things, as well as 15.00 extra dollars. Well, after 3 months, and MANY MANY unanswered emails, I guess I am just out of luck.

This was going to be the bulk of my kids Christmas presents :( How could people do this. Urgh, I know it could be worse. Thankfully we are all in good health, and have each other, I just dont know how people can do that and scam other people, especially when she kneew I needed these for christmas :(

Ok I am done venting now.

Hugs and Happy trading everyone!!

Nicole :p

LitWtch
12-06-2004, 03:03 PM
Did you report this to the mods or leave feedback for the trader? The mods cannot get you your items, but they can prevent the person from trading on this board again. Sorry things turned out this way, it is a shame people do these types of things.

Jaidness
12-06-2004, 03:43 PM
that stinks!!!!!! I hate people like that!!

disneymom
12-06-2004, 03:44 PM
Did you report this to the mods or leave feedback for the trader? The mods cannot get you your items, but they can prevent the person from trading on this board again. Sorry things turned out this way, it is a shame people do these types of things.


No I didnt how do I go about doing that? Thanks!!

YankeeMary
12-06-2004, 03:52 PM
Go to the feedback forum,look up the scammers name, if there isn't feedback, start one for them and make sure you post that she has ripped you off and doesn't answer emails. Also contact JKatherine, she runs a bad traders list and she does a fantastic job. I am sorry this has happened to you especially at CHRISTmas time. Some people...grrrrr!!!

Willow
12-06-2004, 07:06 PM
No I didnt how do I go about doing that? Thanks!!


I'm assuming you know how to leave feedback for someone since you have a link to your feedback in your signature line. Just leave them bad feedback and explain what happened.

KATinKY
12-06-2004, 07:57 PM
that is so sad, why people do this, I will never know, and she must have knew she was going to scam you because that was the last time she had posted. 10-14-2004, 05:24 PM when you traded with her. She has only 11 post, thats why I dont trade anymore unless it is someone that has great feedback and have been here awhile. I am sorry this happened to you. I would definetly report her, too many people think they can get away with it.

kelly12569
12-06-2004, 08:00 PM
hmmm if its the thread I just looked at, it was a new member. PLEASE leave the appropriate feedback as a courtesy to other so they dont get burned as well. Good luck getting your things. :(

disneymom
12-06-2004, 08:15 PM
I just left feedback. The thing is, we traded once before, when she first came to the board, and all went smooth (other then it took a little longer to get then expected) But hey, sometimes things happen you know, but to wait 2 1/2 months when she KNEW I needed these things...the NERVE! I emailed her and told her I was going to contact her local police dept. for internet and mail fraud, I know 75.00 doesnt sound like a lot, but to someone like me lol...it is :( Ok, I am done feeling sorry for myself lol :)

Hugs everyone!

Shann
12-06-2004, 10:44 PM
I hope you get your stuff or money back... $75 dollars is a lot to me and I would be very upset if someone scammed me out of it.. even $5, bottom line - it's just plain rude! :mad: Good luck hon!

msmom79
12-07-2004, 12:28 AM
i just HATE when people get ripped off it makes me so very angry!! jmo ann

taz69
12-07-2004, 06:00 AM
What kind of videos, and what age toys? Maybe we can replace some of them! I am more than willing to send out some stuff for your kids - have to go to the post office Friday anyway, and would love to help you out. Let me know the ages, and what kind of videos you want - i have 2 bins of the things that don't ever get watched. Merry Christmas!

[email protected]

GaPeachy
12-07-2004, 06:40 AM
I just left feedback. The thing is, we traded once before, when she first came to the board, and all went smooth (other then it took a little longer to get then expected) But hey, sometimes things happen you know, but to wait 2 1/2 months when she KNEW I needed these things...the NERVE! I emailed her and told her I was going to contact her local police dept. for internet and mail fraud, I know 75.00 doesnt sound like a lot, but to someone like me lol...it is :( Ok, I am done feeling sorry for myself lol :)

Hugs everyone!


$75.00 seems like ALOT to me!!!!Some people have no shame!

faygokraze
12-07-2004, 07:05 AM
What kind of videos, and what age toys? Maybe we can replace some of them! I am more than willing to send out some stuff for your kids - have to go to the post office Friday anyway, and would love to help you out. Let me know the ages, and what kind of videos you want - i have 2 bins of the things that don't ever get watched. Merry Christmas!

[email protected]

I got some videos to get rid of also!

DivineMsDi
12-07-2004, 07:42 AM
$75 is A LOT of money and you have a right to be angry. If this person (or other people) rip off a few people for that sum, they have a nice egg for Christmas.

Sorry this happened to you. :(

kelly12569
12-07-2004, 07:54 AM
$75 is A LOT of money and you have a right to be angry. If this person (or other people) rip off a few people for that sum, they have a nice egg for Christmas.

Sorry this happened to you. :(



yes, it is alot. Do what you can to try to get your money back. Contact paypal if you paid thru them. If I am looking at the correct thread ~~> I noticed on her fsot thread she said she was using her brothers paypal even though she has her own?? that would have made me suspicious. She also said a few other things that threw me off in her thread and even said she knew it sounded wierd. Little things like that tip me off and send me away from a trade. I would be crying over losing $75.00 on here. That might as well be a million to our family. Good luck hun.

irrelevant0
12-07-2004, 01:12 PM
someone mentioned mail fraud - i'd definitely look into that.

Alura
12-07-2004, 02:15 PM
What else were you supposed to receive?

disneymom
12-07-2004, 02:24 PM
Thank you all for your kind words. That is so sweet of you to offer that. But I would be more then happy to pay for the items. DH is FUMING about this. telling me I shouldnt buy anything over the net ect. ect., But I have had SO many awesome trade with you guys here, I hate to leave, becase of one bad one ya know. I am kind of scared to deal with anymore newbies, but hey, I was a newbie once too :)

The things I was suppose to get were: 120 sheet protectors for scrapbooks…..2.0 mls holds 8 ½ by 11 sheets
pkg opened but never used 1.00 for 20
glass mat (used in great condition) 5.00
Book hard back with jacket Memory makers Family Scrapbooks 2.00
Book (thin) The letter box…lots of great lettering styles, easy
instructions and sample ideas 1.00
Shape stencils set of three………oval, square, and circle…heavy duty 3.00
for all
28 decorative sheets in storage envelope….christmas and baby…..all for 1.00
memories forever memory album……2 ½ inch spine… 3.00
2 sets of memory shope…..in each set…2 pks of acid free paper..1pk is
solid the other is prints—2 pks of frames and boarders……2.00 each
jolee's boutique retail for 3.00 sale for 1.25 still sealed in package
flowers from the market
red roses
stars and stripes
fly fishing
vellum die cuts sets of 8….50 cents each set
baby
mat frames
fun times (party)
pk of 15 spring garden……1.00
2 sets of keepsake pockets..,,.75 each
school
stars and hearts SOLD
corrugated die cuts Victorian bird houses…….50 10 pk
3 different boarder scissors….wave, pinking, and trim……never used 2.00
for all or 1.00 each
Vellum accessory kit: contains 2.00
4 sheet of reversible solid color paper
4 sheet of matching solid color vellum
4 sheets of white printed vellum
4 matching vellum photo mats
4 matching solid color vellum die cuts
blade runner for cutting shapes and die cuts…with 3 pk of blades…2.00
glue runner 1.00 used a little still a lot left
6 things of scotch photo and document tape…..retails 3.00 sale .75
each never used
Red eye photo correction pens..have 2 ---.50 each
Fiskars circle sissors…used has 2 blades 2.00
Scrapbook glue stick…nip…….50 cents
4 hole punches…..50 cents each…heavy duty
ballon
circle
tree
water drop (tear drop)
I also have tons and tons of die cuts and stickers for all
occasions……so much I can't even begin to list them all…let me know
what your looking for GONE

2pc winter set-red velour like shirt with leopard print trim at
neck.and arms.long sleeve. Leopard print pants same material…super
cute 3.00
levis blue jean shorts-slight fade-1.00 SOLD

ht blue velour type long sleeve shirt with different colored
snowflakes across the front…small yellow stain on front….probably easy
to remove……..50 cents SOLD

blue jean Barbie dress…has three small pink hearts at the top and
large heart pocket with Barbie in bright pink on the front….dark pink
trim…super super cute….excellent condition…..2.00 SOLD

Blue jean (heavy) dress overall style with hooks two pockets on the
front with large flowers right over the pocket trim….super
cute………..excellent condition 3.00 SOLD

pink flare leg cloth pants with grey and white striped down the sides
says super star sweetie small little rhinestones missing on two
stars..so it still looks right---excellent conditon....2.00 SOLD

7/8 mary kate and ashley dark blue cloth pants with light blue shiny
trim at top and down sides says west malibu athletics.....perfect
condition worn maybe twice---2.50 SOLD

Fern gully 2 the magical rescue SOLD

Amazing Panda adventure SOLD

The parent Trap SOLD

Aladdin king of thieves SOLD

Antz SOLD

Complete Land before time series ---part 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and the
big freeze 8 movies total in cases movie and case in great
condition-25.00 cut to 20.00--15.00 SOLD

plus she said she was throwing some more items in as well. (that is the list I sent to jkatherine)

If anyone has any of these items, I would LOVE to buy them from you. I dont have to much left in paypal, but I have a little!

It just ticks me off that she is hurting my kids like that, especially around this time of year! GRR, well, I know in the end, she will get hers

Hugs and happy trading everyone!!

Nicole
[email protected]

shellysms
12-08-2004, 10:09 AM
I am so sorry you had to go thru this..believe me I know!! I was scammed by walmart margie...she got me for $100....AND I know I will never see that money again..I was ripped off from someone on here over a cash register!! BUT I did get my money back on that one thanks to paypal. I'm sending you an email now...about your kids! shelly

disneymom
12-08-2004, 02:28 PM
hey shelly...do you still need a register? i just put one up in my attic :o)

that really stinks. i will never understand some people ::(

hugs and happy trading!
nicole

DAVESBABYDOLL
12-08-2004, 04:42 PM
Last Activity: 11-13-2004 06:41 PM

That is the last day she was on.I also noticed the three good feedbacks she has is for her PAYING them for items.

Man,scammers suck.Did you keep her mailing info?Contact the police in her town.Also go to the post office and tell them.I hope you kept you receipt for mailing and any emails/pm you two had between the two of you.

disneymom
12-08-2004, 04:47 PM
Last Activity: 11-13-2004 06:41 PM

That is the last day she was on.I also noticed the three good feedbacks she has is for her PAYING them for items.

Man,scammers suck.Did you keep her mailing info?Contact the police in her town.Also go to the post office and tell them.I hope you kept you receipt for mailing and any emails/pm you two had between the two of you.


I have the receipt somewhere, we just moved, so only God know where it is lol. But I can def. find it :) Also, I have all of her mailing info, unfortunatly though, I didnt save any of the emails between us, and my server only keeps them for 30 days. So it looks like I am out of luck there :(

hugs and Happy trading!
Nicole

loganhunter38
12-08-2004, 08:14 PM
That happened to me once and i used www.reversephonedirectory.com and put in her name and addy a boom =phone number.Called her a few times over a few months and got my stuff :)

harloo
12-08-2004, 08:45 PM
I just recently dealt with another newbie scammer on the trade board, and I just don't trade with newbies anymore. I just don't trust them. I hate to say it but I'd rather trade with someone with a decent amount of feedback. I am usually a good judge of scams, but it's so hard to tell one way or the other nowadays.

I look at post count, date of registry, and feedback to determine who I will trade with. I have stopped the in the heat of the moment impulse buy because a deal is so great. The thing is that they want the deal to look great so they can bait you into their little game.

I hope you get your money back. I would be fuming. :mad:

disneymom
12-18-2004, 10:11 AM
UPDATE:

Well, I tried to email her AGAIN, the last email I sent was the 5th of Dec. and guess what HER AOL ACCOUNT IS CLOSED! the email came back to me with fatle errors! Also, I looked up my paypal to see where I sent the money to it was was to [email protected] with the name billi gregory so I emailed that too nothing has bounced back on it though. Does anyone know of a good people finder online? I went to whitepages, but couldnt find anything./ I am thinking she told me her hubbys name was kenneth, or kevin, I cant remeber :( If ANYONE has any nfo on her, PLEASE let me know

thanks!
Nicole

DAVESBABYDOLL
12-18-2004, 10:25 AM
Find her mailing info..look up her phone number with her addy.Tell her hubby and bug the crap out of her..I would.

disneymom
12-18-2004, 10:44 AM
ok..how do I find her tele with her addy? lol. I have been trying to figure that one out for hours lol!

YankeeMary
12-18-2004, 11:25 AM
http://www.meta-people-search.com/


someone on the board posted this a while back, not sure if it is still up or running or not...good luck.

iluvmybaby
12-18-2004, 11:34 AM
I have some resources to share with you, I hope this helps! Remember use every single service available to you to get justice, either the videos or getting your money back, even call her local police station, do you have her address? go to 411.com and type in her address and you will get her phone #, call her! It is worth $1 worth of long distance to getr $75 worth of stuff, if you dont feel comfortable calling her yourself PM me her address and phne # and I will do it for you ((NO I am not shy @ all when it comes to bad traders getting nailed))

How did you pay? If you piad by paypal you are up the creek with no paddle it has been more then 30 days, but maybe you paid another way, say USPS money order??

communication breaks down or the Seller becomes unresponsive then:

Within 90 days, File Non-Performing/Shipping Seller by contacting Rules and Safety using the WebForm.
Select in the Fields >Transaction Problems -> I am a Buyer -> I sent money but haven't received the item.
Press "Continue" button, bottom right of next page, press "Contact Support" button, enter auction # and complaint in message area, press "Send to Support" button.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/basics/select-RS.html

If you paid via Paypal, File a Buyer Complaint and Request a chargeback within 30 days of Payment.
http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/websc...mplaint-outside

File the Online Fraud Report/Claim/Complaint w/ eBay's SafeHarbor from 30-60 days of End of Auction (EOA).
http://crs.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayisapi.dll?crsstartpage

File Mail Fraud Complaint w/ US Postal Service (USPS) after 30 days and up to apx 1 year.
http://www.framed.usps.com/postalin...udComplaint.htm
Or download the PDF file, PS Form 8165 from my "ME" page.

Also file the Complaints with the following resources.

National Fraud Information Center (NFIC)
http://63.222.159.194/repoform.htm

FBI's Internet Fraud Complaint Center (IFCC)
http://www.ifccfbi.gov/

Federal Trade Commission (FTC) FTC Consumer Complaint Form
https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01

National Fraud Information Center (NFIC)
http://63.222.159.194/repoform.htm

FBI's Internet Fraud Complaint Center (IFCC)
http://www.ifccfbi.gov/

Better Business Bureau (BBB)
http://www.bbb.org/bbbcomplaints/Welcome.asp

The National Consumer Complaint Center for Internet Fraud, False Advertising and Breached Warranties(NCCC)
http://www.alexanderlaw.com/nccc/cb-ftc.html

CCIPS, Reporting Internet Crime
http://www.cybercrime.gov/reporting.htm

Master List Of Attorneys General
http://www.naag.org/ag/full_ag_table.cfm

Fraud Bureau.com
http://www.fraudbureau.com/database/file5.html

International Fraud Resources

International Web Police (IWP)
http://www.InterGOV.org/forms/wp_crimereport.html
International Web Police
http://www.web-police.org/
Interpol
http://www.interpol.com/
Canada Fraud Resources

Canada Information Centre Enquiry/Complaint Form
http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/SSG/ct01260e.html
Canadian Consumer Information Gateway
http://consumerinformation.ca/cgi-b....cgi?Language=E
Royal Canadian Mounted Police
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/
UK Fraud Resources

UK: Crime Reduction Site
http://www.crimereduction.gov.uk/
UK: Serious Fraud Office
http://www.sfo.gov.uk/international/evidence_uk.asp
UK: Crown Prosecution Service
http://www.cps.gov.uk/



Remember, USE these links, use thema s much as possible, you can contact more then one agency, I was in a situation where a ebay powerseller did not send my item for a month until I threatened to press charges, all it took was filing a report at squaretrade.com and it is FREE

:) Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help

disneymom
12-18-2004, 11:44 AM
WHOA baby, you did your research lol! I paid her 15.00 via paypal, and then sent her a HUGE box of items I was selling as part of the trade, so I am out mioney, and merchandise. I will start working on this list lol! Thank you so much for all of the info! :)


I have some resources to share with you, I hope this helps! Remember use every single service available to you to get justice, either the videos or getting your money back, even call her local police station, do you have her address? go to 411.com and type in her address and you will get her phone #, call her! It is worth $1 worth of long distance to getr $75 worth of stuff, if you dont feel comfortable calling her yourself PM me her address and phne # and I will do it for you ((NO I am not shy @ all when it comes to bad traders getting nailed))

How did you pay? If you piad by paypal you are up the creek with no paddle it has been more then 30 days, but maybe you paid another way, say USPS money order??

communication breaks down or the Seller becomes unresponsive then:

Within 90 days, File Non-Performing/Shipping Seller by contacting Rules and Safety using the WebForm.
Select in the Fields >Transaction Problems -> I am a Buyer -> I sent money but haven't received the item.
Press "Continue" button, bottom right of next page, press "Contact Support" button, enter auction # and complaint in message area, press "Send to Support" button.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/basics/select-RS.html

If you paid via Paypal, File a Buyer Complaint and Request a chargeback within 30 days of Payment.
http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/websc...mplaint-outside

File the Online Fraud Report/Claim/Complaint w/ eBay's SafeHarbor from 30-60 days of End of Auction (EOA).
http://crs.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayisapi.dll?crsstartpage

File Mail Fraud Complaint w/ US Postal Service (USPS) after 30 days and up to apx 1 year.
http://www.framed.usps.com/postalin...udComplaint.htm
Or download the PDF file, PS Form 8165 from my "ME" page.

Also file the Complaints with the following resources.

National Fraud Information Center (NFIC)
http://63.222.159.194/repoform.htm

FBI's Internet Fraud Complaint Center (IFCC)
http://www.ifccfbi.gov/

Federal Trade Commission (FTC) FTC Consumer Complaint Form
https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01

National Fraud Information Center (NFIC)
http://63.222.159.194/repoform.htm

FBI's Internet Fraud Complaint Center (IFCC)
http://www.ifccfbi.gov/

Better Business Bureau (BBB)
http://www.bbb.org/bbbcomplaints/Welcome.asp

The National Consumer Complaint Center for Internet Fraud, False Advertising and Breached Warranties(NCCC)
http://www.alexanderlaw.com/nccc/cb-ftc.html

CCIPS, Reporting Internet Crime
http://www.cybercrime.gov/reporting.htm

Master List Of Attorneys General
http://www.naag.org/ag/full_ag_table.cfm

Fraud Bureau.com
http://www.fraudbureau.com/database/file5.html

International Fraud Resources

International Web Police (IWP)
http://www.InterGOV.org/forms/wp_crimereport.html
International Web Police
http://www.web-police.org/
Interpol
http://www.interpol.com/
Canada Fraud Resources

Canada Information Centre Enquiry/Complaint Form
http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/SSG/ct01260e.html
Canadian Consumer Information Gateway
http://consumerinformation.ca/cgi-b....cgi?Language=E
Royal Canadian Mounted Police
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/
UK Fraud Resources

UK: Crime Reduction Site
http://www.crimereduction.gov.uk/
UK: Serious Fraud Office
http://www.sfo.gov.uk/international/evidence_uk.asp
UK: Crown Prosecution Service
http://www.cps.gov.uk/



Remember, USE these links, use thema s much as possible, you can contact more then one agency, I was in a situation where a ebay powerseller did not send my item for a month until I threatened to press charges, all it took was filing a report at squaretrade.com and it is FREE

:) Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help