View Full Version : What made you turn to God?
YNKYH8R
10-13-2004, 09:11 AM
I grew up in an irregular family, without much religous heritage. I've always been told that when my first child was born then I would develop a belief in God, the same was said to me when I would eventually lose a family member.
I'm just curious, what was it that happened in your life that made you a believer in God? Was it just past down, or was it something different?
My co-worker talks about feeling his presence. I don't feel anything.
Plus, with so many religons today, I feel overwhelmed to 'choose a side'.
YNKYH8R
10-13-2004, 10:58 AM
Because I had a burning desire to know THE TRUTH. :)
I found THE TRUTH in the KJV Bible. It is the ONLY flawless book there is.
My personal relationship with Jesus is so literally life-transforming. It's awesome! :D
THE TRUTH -That is what being a Christian is all about. :cool:
I 've heard that from my co-worker also, I'm just trying to find a place in my life where it fits. I realize the need but it does feel pressing on me. I tend to shy away from the pressure, and the guilt.
To put it plainly, I've not had anything happen in my life that made me feel I needed to rely on God. It makes me feel weird. People talk about experiences and feelings of presence, but I don't :confused: :confused:
YankeeMary
10-13-2004, 07:34 PM
YNKYH8R, you don't needto wait for something to bad to happen to feel the Lord. Go to chuch, wait for an altar call, witness grown men cry and praise the Lord, listen to the testimonies, really feel his presence, I promise it is there. Go into your little Angel's (A*V*E*R*Y) bedroom and watch her sleep, try to imagine what you did before you were blessed with her, watch her grow, when she finally finds her little toes, you then are feeling the presence of the LORD, there is nothing more pure then a baby. I have been so terribly broke and have needed milk, wondering how I was going to make it till friday, I would pray hard for the Lord to help memake it through. Sure enough, I would go to the mail box and there would be a rebate for $$$, he always provides for me and mine. Hismiracles in my life never seem to stop. Yes we have had some very hard times and are actually dealing with a very hard timeright now, not finacally, but I know that though things are rough now...This too shall pass...and I am not alone. And neither are you.
Zoobee
10-14-2004, 07:02 AM
Very Poetic.
Why I turned to God:
Bc God made sense to me. To be honest, I didnt feel the pressence of God until after I started getting curious. Then one day, after I had already been a believer, I felt it. Of course, that is what solidified my belief. I was a believer, but a fuzzy one.
God is the one true God, but here is my take on the religions of the world:
I find it hard to believe that the one true God, who loves all humans, only revealed Himself to one little tiny area of the world. Yes, that may be where Jesus happened to wind up so that is where Christianity in its present form began, but I believe that God reveals Himself to all. They just interpret it differently. Who are we to say that the God that revealed Himself to Muhammad is not the same exact God that we believe, only Muhammad gave Him a different name? The one true God in different forms.
To me, saying God loves all and then saying, No wait, we are sooo special that God only wants us in Heaven is an extreme contradiction. I dont believe God would leave any of His children behind. That is why I am a Christian, bc I believe that the Christian God is the same God that wouldnt leave anyone behind, and is there for everyone. You have to find your own meaning in God. No one can tell you what to do to find God bc it is personal. It is different for everyone. You just have to start by learning, and finding in the Bible and maybe in Church what is meaningful for you. For me, it was a personal experience first and a church experience later.
personally yours,
Sheree.
Willow
10-14-2004, 10:44 AM
You have just broken the 2nd commandment several times here. Please refrain from proclaiming you think you are a Christian and posting all of these posts all over the forums that are exactly opposite of what God expects of us. It may confuse new believers.
I undersatnd that you may not know better. But if you trulty 'think' you are a Christian, then you should be as horrified as I am that false doctrine is being posted that has absoulutely nothing to do with God's Laws in the name of Christianity. That is another sin as well.
I put in () brackets everytime you were refering to the Bible, or what YOU were saying YOu thought God meant. God didn't stutter. It is all explained in the Holy Bible. Anytime you say "Well, TO ME, MY GOD wouldn't do this or that...and in the Bible it CLEARLLY says he WILL DO IT...then you are creating a false God in your imagination to agree with what YOU want him to be like. Hence IDOLATRY 2nd commandment.
The simpliest Christian at least knows the 10 Commandments extremely well. Not only that, but exactly what they mean. You may think I am coming down on you, but this is a public forum, and you are parading as a Christian, when all I see is either a wolf in sheeps clothing posing as a Chrisitan, or you are very confused. I am not trying to be right and make you look wrong. Hey, I didnt write the Bible, but I do know what it says. If you were a non-beleiver on here saying all this. I'd ignore this, but dare not misinterpret The Lord God's Holy Word on here where potential new beleivers may get led astray because they listened to an imposter instead of a Christian who sticks to the Good Book. If you truly THINK you are a Christian, and see as I have clearly pointed out that you have just broken God's Law (which will send you to Hell if you do not repent), then you will repent...and change your tune. If you do not, then your true colors will be painfully obvious to all. In that case, I encourage all Christian's to disregard any posts in the future from Zoobee on CHRISITIANITY, because it is false doctrine. Do not hate zoobee, pray for her, and read her freebies or others stuff, but God warns us of false prophets, and wolves in sheeps clothing misinterpreting the Bible. So be warned.
Zoobee, I hope you repent.
2. "You shall not make for yourself any idol."
Who is God to you? Is he only a god of love and mercy who would never judge anyone and never cast anyone into Hell? If that's your god, then you're right. Your god couldn't cast anyone into Hell because he doesn't exist. He's a figment of your imagination. You've created a god in your own mind that you're more comfortable with. You may call it your "personal belief," but God calls it idolatry. It's the oldest sin in the Book, and the Bible warns that idolaters will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.
I don't think it's fair of you to tell people they aren't Christians. Everyone interprets things differently. Your interpretation of something could be totally different to someone else.
Zoobee
10-14-2004, 10:52 AM
Firstly, how dare you tell me Im not a Christian. Christian = someone who believes in Christ as the Savior. I dont have to be a Biblical literalist to be a Christian. I might not fit your definition of a Christian, and I can respect that, but who are you to have the final say on what I believe?
All Christian beliefs are exactly what you said, INTERPRETATIONS of the Bible. Mine are just as valid as yours. Im not confusing people. I am merely presenting a different point of view. I am not scared of different points of view. People need to find their own truths. They can do that in their own walks with Christ. They dont need me or you dictating to them how they should believe.
And God doesnt CAST people into Hell. People do it to themselves by not following God. I am saying basically the same thing you are, but I am putting the responsibility on people for their own demise. I BELIEVE that unless people take responsibility for their own sins, they will never truly understand forgiveness.
Im not a false prophet. Im not a prophet at all. I dont care if others believe me or not. Im just posting my interpretations. I assumed that others were smart enough to recognize that. I guess you dont have the same faith in others to be able to think for themselves. So I will say it nice and loud. ANYTHING I SAY (OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER) IS MERELY AN INTERPRETATION. I will even put the disclaimer in my sig if that makes you happy. but then, so should everyone else.
Its a rigid definition that leaves some of Gods potential followers from entering the church. A Christian follows Jesus and tries to live as Jesus would. When you start making a checklist for Christianity, you exclude people. And God would not exclude anyone from following Him.
and by the way, I am probably one of the few that have read the Bible from cover to cover. if we took everything in it literally, we would be stoning non-virgins on their wedding nights on their father's doorsteps. Thats a lot of stonings. The Bible survived for so long BECAUSE it is open to interpretation. It is a Living Bible. Each denomination is merely another interpretation of the Bible.
I dont need to repent for that. I have done nothing wrong in my post. You should not judge. As I have said before, that is God's job.
Im sorry if I have offended you. But please do not define my religion for me. Thanks.
;)
Zoobee
10-14-2004, 10:53 AM
I don't think it's fair of you to tell people they aren't Christians. Everyone interprets things differently. Your interpretation of something could be totally different to someone else.
Thank you. I appreciate that. :cool:
Willow
10-14-2004, 10:56 AM
Thank you. I appreciate that. :cool:
You're welcome. :)
Willow
10-14-2004, 11:11 AM
Considering you make Pagan posts all the time.
Of course the last thing you want me to do, is speak THE TRUTH, or get someone into Heaven.
It is sad enough you make your own IMO how to burn in Hell posts, but now you come into Christian one's spouting what YOU THINK ABOUT SOMETHING YOU DON'T EVEN PRACTICE. That's the difference Christian's are concerned about what GOD thinks. That is all that matters to us.
I do not go in your IMO How To Go To Hell And It Be COOL posts as much as I should go in there, I don't because that is what starts arguments.
Please unless you want to be converted, don't come in our threads to start trouble. OR GIVING OPINIONS ON TOPICS YOU ARE UNQUALIFIED TO EVEN WHISPER ABOUT. Youi don't even want me in your Pagan posts. We avoid yours because we give you the right to IMO tell people how to burn in Hell. Christians have the right to discuss God, and share his word with those who are interested just like you do, without having other beliefs pop in to start trouble.
Satan hates THE TRUTH---and NO it does NOT surprise me that the Kerry supporters or Pagans are getting all uneasy because THE TRUTH CONVICTS THE FLESH, AND THAT IS THE LAST THING A NON-BELEIVER WANTS TO HAVE HAPPEN.
BACK BUTTON BABY! USE IT
I've reported your posts. I don't think you know the first thing about how a "true" christian should act. I know many christians and they are not like this. I've always remembered a saying that I used to hear a lot when I did go to church and that is.... God wants spiritual fruit not religious nuts. It's people like you that give christians a bad name. JMO :)
Zoobee
10-14-2004, 11:14 AM
Considering you make Pagan posts all the time.
Of course the last thing you want me to do, is speak THE TRUTH, or get someone into Heaven.
It is sad enough you make your own IMO how to burn in Hell posts, but now you come into Christian one's spouting what YOU THINK. That's the difference Christian's are concerned about what GOD thinks. That is all that matters to us.
I do not go in your IMO How To Go To Hell And It Be COOL posts as much as I should go in there, I don't because that is what starts arguments.
Please unless you want to be converted, don't come in our threads to start trouble. We avoid yours because we give you the right to IMO tell people how to burn in Hell. Christians have the right to discuss God, and share his word with those who are interested just like you do, without having other beleifs pop in to start trouble.
Satan hates THE TRUTH---and NO it does NOT surprise me that the Kerry supporters or Pagans are getting all uneasy because THE TRUTH COVICTS THE FLESH, AND THAT IS THE LAST THING A NON-BELEIVER WANTS TO HAVE HAPPEN.
BACK BUTTON BABY! USE IT
Are you referring to me? I havent posted since 2001. It would be pretty hard for you to even find my posts let alone bother with them. Also, forgive me, but what is IMO???
Are you discrediting Pat's opinion bc she is PAGAN? For someone who says they believe in tolerance it seems a very intolerant comment. Tolerance is not just putting up with people, its accepting them.
You are right about one thing, it is about what God thinks. Which means you shouldnt be judging people. Which is why I start my sentences with "I believe" and not "God believes". See there is a difference. Other interpretations are just as valid as yours, otherwise very very few people would get into Heaven. Am I supposed to believe that God would leave other Christian followers behind just bc they didnt have the exact same beliefs as you?
This isnt just the Christian forum, its the religion forum. Which means Pagans have just as much right to express themselves as you. So do other Christians with differing views. You like to group people together by saying "the Kerry supporters or Pagans are getting all uneasy because THE TRUTH COVICTS THE FLESH, AND THAT IS THE LAST THING A NON-BELEIVER WANTS TO HAVE HAPPEN." Lets ignore the implied superiority complex, and let me remind you Kerry is a Catholic. Lots Christians are Kerry supporters. You can know the truth and not like Bush. What does one thing have to do with the other? I could call Bush a war-monger and a murderer for the war (JUST AN EXAMPLE!). Its all about interpretation.
It is not mine or your place to force people into conversion. All you can do is show people; they have to pick the path themselves. Do you think God wants a bunch of people following Him so that they wont go to Hell or bc they truly love the Lord and want a relationship with Jesus?
thanks.
Disclaimer: The views expressed above represent the interpretations of the poster. Please use your brains and decide stuff for yourselves.
ckerr4
10-14-2004, 11:16 AM
originally posted by JamiNC
C. Jesus Christ offers His disciples a relationship with the God of the universe unlike the religions of this world. They perform certain rituals and rites to please God hoping that these vain oblations will work. Buddhists chant to scrolls and give food and cigarettes to statues that cannot speak or hear (they even have to light the cigarette because their god can't do it), Muslims obey dietary and cultural laws, Hindus worship any of a combination of millions of gods and goddeses (Shiva has six arms!) with rites, Catholics do penance and worship a host of saints as well as a goddess named Mary. Some people even claim to be their own god (which is ridiculous--they can't even make one hair white or black as a result of their own will).
And Catholics don't worship saints or a goddess named Mary. It wouldn't hurt for you to look things up first. Catholics are Christian, whether you want them to be or not, whether they're your favorite Christians or not, whether you want them to sit at your table next to you at lunch or not.
You can keep saying it, and true enough someone will read it and believe it, but that still doesn't make it true. Check your info. :mad:
Zoobee
10-14-2004, 11:17 AM
I've reported your posts. I don't think you know the first thing about how a "true" christian should act. I know many christians and they are not like this. I've always remembered a saying that I used to hear a lot when I did go to church and that is.... God wants spiritual fruit not religious nuts. It's people like you that give christians a bad name. JMO :)
LOL thats funny. but you really didnt have to report her. i didnt want to start trouble.
Zoobee
10-14-2004, 11:19 AM
And Catholics don't worship saints or a goddess named Mary. It wouldn't hurt for you to look things up first. Catholics are Christian, whether you want them to be or not, whether they're your favorite Christians or not, whether you want them to sit at your table next to you at lunch or not.
You can keep saying it, and true enough someone will read it and believe it, but that still doesn't make it true. Check your info. :mad:
If that was in response to me, just to clarify... Thats what I meant. That Kerry was a Catholic/Christian too. In response to the notion that Kerry supporters dont "know the truth".
Willow
10-14-2004, 11:21 AM
LOL thats funny. but you really didnt have to report her. i didnt want to start trouble.
I don't like reporting posts because I feel like a tattle tale but what she said was not called for. I was never rude to her or said anything negative about her beliefs. She acts like she's holier than thou. It's great that she's so on fire for jesus as they call it but she doesn't have to be rude about it.
ckerr4
10-14-2004, 11:22 AM
If that was in response to me, just to clarify... Thats what I meant. That Kerry was a Catholic/Christian too. In response to the notion that Kerry supporters dont "know the truth".
Sorry, no, that wasn't to you, I just wasn't typing fast enough! We haven't had a thread go this fast in a long time, lol, so my typing speed has slacked off :p
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jaimethepooh
10-14-2004, 11:27 AM
Does the name MsSavALot come to mind for you Patchouli???
you know we talked about that yesterday.
the comments made by that person are uncalled for and just plain rude and those types of posts are not welcome here.
i believe that true christians would not act like this.
Willow
10-14-2004, 11:28 AM
I know I'm not a moderator... but YOU are way out of line in making a post like this toward another member. Have you even read the rules that apply to posting on this forum???? Personal attacks are not allowed, and when you make a post like this, it is considered a personal attack.
I am a Christian, and I am firm in my beliefs, but I do NOT go around on public forums trashing everyone else that doesn't agree with how I believe. I would much rather pray for someone instead.
With that being said, I am joining Patchouli in reporting your posts in this thread, because they give me deja vu... reminding me so much of a former member here that did much like you have just done.
Does the name MsSavALot come to mind for you Patchouli???
Yes, it does. I was talking about that to someone last night as a matter of fact. lol
ckerr4
10-14-2004, 11:30 AM
Does the name MsSavALot come to mind for you Patchouli???
Actually, I know where she's been hanging out, so to speak. ;)
Zoobee
10-14-2004, 11:39 AM
ok then
:
C. Jesus Christ offers His disciples a relationship with the God of the universe unlike the religions of this world. They perform certain rituals and rites to please God hoping that these vain oblations will work. Buddhists chant to scrolls and give food and cigarettes to statues that cannot speak or hear (they even have to light the cigarette because their god can't do it), Muslims obey dietary and cultural laws, Hindus worship any of a combination of millions of gods and goddeses (Shiva has six arms!) with rites, Catholics do penance and worship a host of saints as well as a goddess named Mary. Some people even claim to be their own god (which is ridiculous--they can't even make one hair white or black as a result of their own will).
Here is my issue. Perhaps someone can explain it to me.
If everyone who believes in some form of God has seen God, and there is only one true God, then wouldnt it follow that they are all seeing the same God?
Oh and Catholics do not worship a goddess named Mary, but they do pray to Mary, the mother of JESUS. "Holy Mary, mother of God..." I guess they think she has some clout over her kid. :)
Zoobee
10-14-2004, 11:43 AM
No Patcholi, but you knew that.
I wasnt 100% sure, more like 60-40, but I was going to post that regardless.
:D
Willow
10-14-2004, 11:47 AM
Patcholi. why do you and jamipoo and other pagan posters come inhere to stir up trouble, and then report us. I beleive it was your intention to get offened and get me banned from the start. I never posted in your posts.
I never said anything that I meant to be taken personally either. I just don't want the Bible misquoted, so I point it out. Not because of what I say but what God says.
You may very well get me banned. That is very selfish considering the e-mails I get from people wanting to know the Lord more from my posts. Just because you disagree with me, doesnt mean you have to ban me and ruin it for everyone. I never upset your posts, why must you mine? :confused:
If you do get banned it will be because of you're own doing. :rolleyes: I am not the one who posted the offensive remarks and made personal attacks.
jaimethepooh
10-14-2004, 11:52 AM
first off its J A I M E T H E P O O H
you personaly attacked another member of this board becuase accroding to you they do not fit your idea of christianty. that is rude and those types of posts are not welcomed. just because they are of a diffrent religion than us doesn't mean we are going to let you post they way you are.
Willow
10-14-2004, 11:58 AM
Your remarks were offensive. You are making personal attacks.
WHERE EXATCLY DID I DO THAT? NOWHERE.
YOU'D HAVE TO TWIST SOMETHING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
WHAT ABOUT YOU POSTING IN CHRSITIAN THREADS DISPUTING EVERYTHING GIVING ME A HARD TIME FOR DAYS NOW? HUH?
SHOW ME ONE POST OF YOURS I POSTED IN?
WHY CANT YOU BACK OFF, AND LEAVE ME BE? I DON'T WANT TO ARGUE WITH A PAGAN WHILE i AM DISCUSSING CHRISITANITY ANYMORE THAN YOU'D WANT A CHRISITAN ALL UP IN YOUR THREADS TWISTING EVERYTHING.
I OUGHT TO REPORT YOU, BUT i'D HATE TO TAKE AWAY YOUR MEMBERSHIP. mY POSTS ARE NOT ABOUT you THEY ARE ABOUT THE TOPICS.
What are you talking about? I have not said a word to you until you accused someone of not being a Christian. You cannot dictate to the other members which threads they can and can't post in. If you want to post in a Pagan thread then by all means post in it. I think you are forgetting that you're posting on a public message board.
Zoobee
10-14-2004, 11:59 AM
Where exactly did I attack anyone?
Patcholi. why do you and jamipoo zoobee and other keery or pagan posters come inhere to stir up trouble, and then report us. I beleive it was your intention to get offened and get me banned from the start. I never posted in your posts.
You and your buddy have been following me around like a dog in heat agruing every point I make, and you are not even a Chrisitan. What is up with that. Mods I hope you see I have been entrapped here. I never wanted to hurt anyone, just discuss God, and HIS law not mine law.
I never said anything that I meant to be taken personally either. I just don't want the Bible misquoted, so I point it out. Not because of what I say but what God says.
You may very well get me banned. That is very selfish considering the e-mails I get from people wanting to know the Lord more from my posts. Just because you disagree with me, doesnt mean you have to ban me and ruin it for everyone. I never upset your posts, why must you mine? :confused:
Im sorry, but there is certainly no conspiracy against you. Also I never misquoted the Bible; I never even attempted to quote it at all. I hate to tell you this, but Kerry supporters, pagans, me, Pat, and the whole world are not purposefully trying to stop you from spreading the Good Word and all that. We have a right to post just like you do. You should not be so afraid of others opinions. You will attract more people if you accept their beliefs and work towards mutually understanding than by telling them they are wrong. Do you not realize that your comments drip of intolerance? Kerry and pagan posters are out to "stir up trouble" and "entrap" you. Its categorization.
Trust me on this, I havent posted since 2001. I certainly did not decide to post just for the purpose of "entrapping" you and having you banned. I will probably post for a couple days, then get bored and not come back for another 3 years. You were not even on my itinerary.
Im sorry if i have somehow contributed to any hard feelings or animosity.
Willow
10-14-2004, 12:00 PM
Your remarks were offensive. You are making personal attacks.
WHERE EXATCLY DID I DO THAT? NOWHERE.
YOU'D HAVE TO TWIST SOMETHING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
WHAT ABOUT YOU POSTING IN CHRSITIAN THREADS DISPUTING EVERYTHING GIVING ME A HARD TIME FOR DAYS NOW? HUH?
SHOW ME ONE POST OF YOURS I POSTED IN?
WHY CANT YOU BACK OFF, AND LEAVE ME BE? I DON'T WANT TO ARGUE WITH A PAGAN WHILE i AM DISCUSSING CHRISITANITY ANYMORE THAN YOU'D WANT A CHRISITAN ALL UP IN YOUR THREADS TWISTING EVERYTHING.
I OUGHT TO REPORT YOU, BUT i'D HATE TO TAKE AWAY YOUR MEMBERSHIP. mY POSTS ARE NOT ABOUT you THEY ARE ABOUT THE TOPICS.
Why would my membership be taken away? I am not the one posting rude offensive remarks about someone of a different religion. There is a differnence between disagreeing with someone and attacking them. I disagreed but you attacked.
YankeeMary
10-14-2004, 12:00 PM
I have to get my 2 cents in here. I AM A CHRISTIAN!!! I have in the past appreciated your post Jami but today was not fair out of you...brings back the phrase..WWJD? MY Jesus wouldn't attack. I also am a Kerry type person, tho I am against abortion but I am also against war. Patcholi is a very good friend of mine and get this, we have even had religious converstations and she didn't knock MY GOD, nor did I knock hers, of course I would love to see her and Jamie the Pooh convert for I worry about their souls, but I would never ever try to push my religion on them nor do they do it to me. I am sure they would also like to convert me. By attacking others is not the proper way to be a witness for the Lord, That is also in the Bible. If Christians attack one anothers then what are the others to think about Christianity? Doesn't look good if you are on the outside.
Willow
10-14-2004, 12:02 PM
I have to get my 2 cents in here. I AM A CHRISTIAN!!! I have in the past appreciated your post Jami but today was not fair out of you...brings back the phrase..WWJD? MY Jesus wouldn't attack. I also am a Kerry type person, tho I am against abortion but I am also against war. Patcholi is a very good friend of mine and get this, we have even had religious converstations and she didn't knock MY GOD, nor did I knock hers, of course I would love to see her and Jamie the Pooh convert for I worry about their souls, but I would never ever try to push my religion on them nor do they do it to me. I am sure they would also like to convert me. By attacking others is not the proper way to be a witness for the Lord, That is also in the Bible. If Christians attack one anothers then what are the others to think about Christianity? Doesn't look good if you are on the outside.
Thank you. I wouldn't try to convert you. I love you just the way you are. :)
YankeeMary
10-14-2004, 12:05 PM
Thank you. I wouldn't try to convert you. I love you just the way you are. :)
I would try to convert you and many many others...tee hee... but in the most positive ways...just by living right and letting others see how wonderful my life with the Lord in it...you know that I also love you...
Zoobee
10-14-2004, 12:06 PM
WRONG---
THEY DO NOT FIT GOD'S IDEA --ACCORDING TO KJV
I don't have opinions, just quoting Bible. That is whole point of this discussion. What God wants.
I only point out it out when what I read conflicts wiht KJV which I did not write. Since this IS SUPPOSED to be a Christian thread is was OK to do that.
Wait please. Since the original post in question was directed towards me, I should respond.
My posts did not fit God's idea as interpreted by you from KJV. but that is not even the issue. You flat out said to me that I CANT BE A CHRISTIAN bc of what I posted. Then you told me that I had better repent. That offended me. I just didnt say it in those exact words. But I forgive you bc I understand that you are a literalist who interprets the Bible word for word exactly as it is written. I am willing to tolerate that even though you are unwilling to tolerate me.
But apparently, others did not like the way in which you were speaking. It was pretty rude. I didnt report you because I didnt feel the need to cause trouble. But if others were offended as well, it is their perogative. Just bc it wasnt directed at them doesnt mean that they werent offended by it. The statement was offensive (especially to me, since it was directed at me). You can disagree and be diplomatic about it, you know.
Im sorry you cant see that. It is kind of disturbing that you dont see how offensive it is though. How would you like it if someone said something like that to you? Thats how you made me feel.
YankeeMary
10-14-2004, 12:08 PM
I am just wondering if she is getting you mixed up with zodemere in regards to her stating about your other posts? Since your user name is very close to his user name???
Zoobee
10-14-2004, 12:11 PM
I have to get my 2 cents in here. I AM A CHRISTIAN!!! I have in the past appreciated your post Jami but today was not fair out of you...brings back the phrase..WWJD? MY Jesus wouldn't attack. I also am a Kerry type person, tho I am against abortion but I am also against war. Patcholi is a very good friend of mine and get this, we have even had religious converstations and she didn't knock MY GOD, nor did I knock hers, of course I would love to see her and Jamie the Pooh convert for I worry about their souls, but I would never ever try to push my religion on them nor do they do it to me. I am sure they would also like to convert me. By attacking others is not the proper way to be a witness for the Lord, That is also in the Bible. If Christians attack one anothers then what are the others to think about Christianity? Doesn't look good if you are on the outside.
By the way, that was beautiful. and you guys post too damn fast. I got left behind my last post. it now doesnt fit with everything posted while I was typing it!
AHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
:eek:
Willow
10-14-2004, 12:11 PM
I am just wondering if she is getting you mixed up with zodemere in regards to her stating about your other posts? Since your user name is very close to his user name???
Her posts seem very much like the posts that a person used to post until she was banned.
YankeeMary
10-14-2004, 12:13 PM
Her posts seem very much like the posts that a person used to post until she was banned.
I miss everything don't I? LOL.
Zoobee
10-14-2004, 12:15 PM
Really? I promise I have always been zoobee and zoobee only. I have never posted in this forum before. I joined in 2001 to use the deals forum. I just happened across a post here and thought it was interesting.
If I am saying anything that might get me banned, please someone let me know. I dont want to overstep my bounds.
Also, no one answered my original question. Im curious bc this is where my thoughts came from:
If there is only one true God, and all religions that believe in God have seen God, wouldnt it follow that they are all seeing the same God?
Willow
10-14-2004, 12:18 PM
Really? I promise I have always been zoobee and zoobee only. I have never posted in this forum before. I joined in 2001 to use the deals forum. I just happened across a post here and thought it was interesting.
If I am saying anything that might get me banned, please someone let me know. I dont want to overstep my bounds.
Also, no one answered my original question. Im curious bc this is where my thoughts came from:
If there is only one true God, and all religions that believe in God have seen God, wouldnt it follow that they are all seeing the same God?
No, not you. lol jaminc's posts are very much like another person's who used to post here but was banned.
Willow
10-14-2004, 12:19 PM
I miss everything don't I? LOL.
I'm usually the one that misses everything so I guess it's your turn. :D
YankeeMary
10-14-2004, 12:23 PM
If there is only one true God, and all religions that believe in God have seen God, wouldnt it follow that they are all seeing the same God?
As long as it is my God..lol...sorry trying hard to lighten the mood. The OP, I am positive didn't want this thread to take the course of action that it did. So to the OP I am so sorry things went this way.
Zoobee
10-14-2004, 12:41 PM
JamiNC, No one is telling you that you can't post here. So you don't have to leave. You have apologized, Most people will be willing to accept that. :)
I think everyone is just asking that in the future, you try to be a little less harsh and judgemental with the posts to people who don't see things like you see them.
Agreed
http://www.greatcosmichappyass.com/graphics/cards/lgHandOfGod.jpg
donnakc
10-14-2004, 03:28 PM
I'd like to know exactly what a pagan is? What do you believe in? I'm just curious. I am a devout christian. :)
jaimethepooh
10-14-2004, 04:08 PM
in this thread there are links to help you out
http://forums.bigbigsavings.com/showthread.php3?t=435615
You dont have to get me banned, I will quit posting if this is what everybody wants willingly.
Nobody got you banned, except for yourself. I think, in your crusade to save everyone's soul, you forgot one valuable piece of information. Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you. Don't quote me on that, because I'm not a bible person so I'm sure I got it wrong.
However, you seem to have forgotten to read the post at the top of this forum about the proper way to treat people on this board. Or, perhaps you read and do not care to be civil. Either way, you now have a 5 day break to decide if you wish to be a productive member of this board, and if you wish to do so, without attacking those who do not think exactly like you do. You have said you no longer wish to post, which is also fine. You may email and we can deactivate your account permanently. However, if you do return after your vacation, and continue to attack members for their beliefs, the ban will become permanent.
Have a good evening.
YNKYH8R
10-15-2004, 06:34 AM
Wow, I go away for a few hours and all this happens while I'm gone. :)
This is why I have a hard time with religon or GOD or anything beyond this mortal realm. I respect what JamiNC has said in her atempts to show me where the Bible says what it is to be a Christian. Although I am not offended by what she said; it does however make things a little difficult.
There is such a sense of urgency in JamiNC's message and other people I know that I feel if I am left out all is lost.I would like to have a relationship with GOD. But I don't feel anything. I don't feel the presense that my co-worker talks about, or what JamiNC could probably atest to. (Even though I have prayed to have Jesus take away the sin that I have repented from, and that he died for me as the last sacrifice.)
This is probably a question that will never have an answer, or someone would probably say that it is a question for GOD. A lot of people find GOD thorugh tragedy, or greif others through imense joy like a birth. But I've not found him out of neccesity, I 'm not even sure if I've found him at all. If I sound confused it is because I am. :rolleyes:
I thank every one for posting especially YankeeMary, because she is respected by my wife and myself. I look at my daughter everyday and I am overwelmed with joy and love. (if you want pics let me know I'll email them, that means you too patchouli and jamiethepooh)
donnakc
10-15-2004, 06:49 AM
sounds to me like you want a relationship with God, not religion. Most all churches will let you down. If you want to know God just talk to Him like you would any other person. I have talked to Jesus in this way since I was a kid. He does answer, maybe not audibly, but you know when he answers. Getting to know God really is not hard and you don't have to go to a church to find him.
YankeeMary
10-15-2004, 07:03 AM
sounds to me like you want a relationship with God, not religion. Most all churches will let you down. If you want to know God just talk to Him like you would any other person. I have talked to Jesus in this way since I was a kid. He does answer, maybe not audibly, but you know when he answers. Getting to know God really is not hard and you don't have to go to a church to find him.
I agree 100%. It is very hard to find a church of any type that you "feel at home". Churches were for the Lords people to gather and worship. Nowdays, IMO I find its about like high school, if you will, with different clicks. God loves us all and it is easier for a camel to get through an eye of a needle then it is a rich man to get into Heaven. Churches (not all) have become so political, the worshiping takes second place. My DH & family have tried at least 7 different churches in this area and so far we haven't found "the One", we will not give up for there is one out there suited for us, and to have a wonderful church with terrific members is like an extended family and it is a wonderful thing.
YNKYH8R thank you very much for you kind words. And I know that I would love to see that little Angel ofyours send the pics away...
[email protected] (I love pics, especially baby pics and kids, their smiles and expressions are priceless.)
donnakc
10-15-2004, 02:45 PM
[QUOTE=YankeeMary]I agree 100%. It is very hard to find a church of any type that you "feel at home". Churches were for the Lords people to gather and worship. Nowdays, IMO I find its about like high school, if you will, with different clicks. God loves us all and it is easier for a camel to get through an eye of a needle then it is a rich man to get into Heaven. Churches (not all) have become so political, the worshiping takes second place. My DH & family have tried at least 7 different churches in this area and so far we haven't found "the One", we will not give up for there is one out there suited for us, and to have a wonderful church with terrific members is like an extended family and it is a wonderful thing.
I know what you mean! We don't attend one certain church, at least not at this time. We go between several churches. They all have something different to offer. My husband is an evangelist, who has spent years as a street preacher. He's not your typical preacher so some pastors have a hard time with him. So unless God plants us at one church we'll visit. It's good to have fellowship. :D
IMtightwad
10-21-2004, 08:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patchouli
I don't think it's fair of you to tell people they aren't Christians. Everyone interprets things differently. Your interpretation of something could be totally different to someone else.
I absolutely agree.
I just wanted to say that you should go with whatever is in your heart.
My mother and step-father moved around a lot and I went to a lot of different churches.
Some of them I liked. Some of them told me things like: it was a sin to marry interacially.
You can imagine my disgust.
Religion and Faith are different to everyone. Which is why people get so heated in these threads. Some people have beleifs that they beleive in so much they'll tell other people they are wrong.
I beleive in what I beleive in and I will not share it, because I do not want others to judge me or tell me I chose the wrong religion.
Do what is in your heart. If you beleive in GOD, then your religion / faith should be between you & God.
Zoobee
10-22-2004, 08:34 AM
Do what is in your heart. If you beleive in GOD, then your religion / faith should be between you & God.
That was beautiful.
:)
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