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kelly12569
10-10-2004, 08:28 PM
:confused: just unsure of some things goin on in here lately.... kinda upsets me to see this board going in the direction it has been :(
its just not like it used to be.....
Lora_1994
10-10-2004, 08:50 PM
I totally agree. I havent been here near as long as some of them, but I remember having fun on here at one point and being able to joke around. People wouldnt get offended as easily it seems. But thats just my measley opinion. For what its worth :-(
andreame70
10-10-2004, 09:42 PM
I agree, but I don't think the problem is that people get offended easily. I think the problem recently has been newer people attacking others and refusing to follow the guidelines for posting. I guess they either chose not to read the rules, or they have chosen to ignore them.
I have seen rude, snippy and uncalled for comments lately that have really made me angry. Now, I just click on the little triangle and report the post to a mod. I am not offended easily, but I know that if I am offended by a post, then many more people are to.
It is a shame that this board has to be policed in this way, but there always seems to be someone out there who wants the shot at offending someone else. I have even seen a post recently where a child was personally attacked. Now that is really sad.
Andrea
DAVESBABYDOLL
10-11-2004, 03:18 AM
I totally agree. I havent been here near as long as some of them, but I remember having fun on here at one point and being able to joke around. People wouldnt get offended as easily it seems. But thats just my measley opinion. For what its worth :-(
ITA :) ;)
Angel Lips
10-11-2004, 04:24 AM
I am sorry you feel that way. Im not sure how the board used to be since I just joined in the middle of the this year.
joni1269
10-11-2004, 07:12 AM
Can't we all just get along?? LOL!!
MOM2B2003
10-11-2004, 07:15 AM
OK.....I have been around for a while. I half agree with you on two points. For one, this board is NOT like it used to be. But that isn't all a bad thing. I feel that it used to be run by a select few.....shall we say, "veterans", who, anytime there was anything posted contrary to their beliefs/opinions, would jump all over and pounce the opposing view. I personally used to feel that I could not post/express some of the things that I wanted to say.
Secondly, I do agree that now it has gotten out of hand. I think I know of one person in particular that I can think of whose posts are very negative and rude MOST of the time. It is very annoying. And you just want to reach through your computer screen and scream "WTF R U thinking???!!!"
I do think that people have got to learn and respect the fact that we can all have differences of opinions and different values in life that affects our thoughts/ideas/opinions. That has been the one thing that this board has taught me the most.
It boils down to this: I don't have to AGREE with you, but I do have to RESPECT your thoughts/ideas/opinions. I think that is what everyone who uses this board should learn and understand!
JMHO! :D
Dolly<3
10-11-2004, 09:44 AM
I haven't been around lately, but I've seen this happen before. If you get more upset here than you'd like to you could take a break from it. I've taken two breaks since I've joined and it always helped. :) People leave also, so when you come back you will see a lot of new names.
YNKYH8R
10-11-2004, 09:52 AM
:confused: just unsure of some things goin on in here lately.... kinda upsets me to see this board going in the direction it has been :(
its just not like it used to be.....
What direction is it going in that you see? I'm still relatively new, so I don't know. do you argee with the previous posts, about attacks or is it something different?
DivineMsDi
10-11-2004, 10:12 AM
One good thing I have noticed.....some of the more crude and vulgar people don't seem to be posting. :D
What I can't stand are the ones who never have anything nice to say about anyone. It is all well and good to come on the board and look for advice or vent and whine, but there are some people who NEVER have anything nice to reply.
For example, does it really take too long to stop and say "Happy Birthday" in that thread when it is someone's birthday? Or "good job" if they post something good going on in their lives?
I believe in everyone having his or her own opinion. I don't need to agree with you to be your friend or be polite. Sometimes you need to see the other person's point of view.
I hope all the decent folks will keep on posting here. Let's not get boring. We CAN disagree, but you don't need to stoop to name calling or cursing.
YNKYH8R
10-11-2004, 10:32 AM
ITA Our difference in opinion is what makes this sight so good. I don't generally have conversations about world events outside of this chat room. I never resort to name calling, there is no need. I learn from all the difference in opinion, and hope someone learns something from me. I tend to only comment on controversial items, or ones where I feel I have some experience in the subject matter.
MOM2B2003
10-11-2004, 11:51 AM
L@@K how cool this thread is! This thread is sooooo constructive! I think it just proves that this place isn't going totally in the wrong direction!
Keep up the positive remarks!
Oh.....and whenever in doubt about people on this site or what direction this site is going, refer back to this thread!! :D
adorkablex
10-11-2004, 12:43 PM
One good thing I have noticed.....some of the more crude and vulgar people don't seem to be posting. :D
What I can't stand are the ones who never have anything nice to say about anyone. It is all well and good to come on the board and look for advice or vent and whine, but there are some people who NEVER have anything nice to reply.
For example, does it really take too long to stop and say "Happy Birthday" in that thread when it is someone's birthday? Or "good job" if they post something good going on in their lives?
I believe in everyone having his or her own opinion. I don't need to agree with you to be your friend or be polite. Sometimes you need to see the other person's point of view.
I hope all the decent folks will keep on posting here. Let's not get boring. We CAN disagree, but you don't need to stoop to name calling or cursing.
I don't think I've ever name called or cursed on here.. I don't say Happy Birthday to people because I don't know them. And the mean people on here aren't the ones that bother me the most. The ones that bother me are the ones who post one-liners that you can feel the forced nature of it through the computer screen. I figure I'll make more friends after November 2nd and the board isn't mostly political and people can see people for who they are and not who they're voting for :D
YNKYH8R
10-11-2004, 12:45 PM
I don't think I've ever name called or cursed on here.. I don't say Happy Birthday to people because I don't know them. And the mean people on here aren't the ones that bother me the most. The ones that bother me are the ones who post one-liners that you can feel the forced nature of it through the computer screen. I figure I'll make more friends after November 2nd and the board isn't mostly political and people can see people for who they are and not who they're voting for :D
Way to go! :D :) :D :)
YYounghouse
10-11-2004, 12:53 PM
It seems much different here
and while I do not post much
I always read a bunch
and I remember the board being
much faster ( lots of new topics)
and nicer.
jmo.
DivineMsDi
10-11-2004, 12:55 PM
I figure I'll make more friends after November 2nd and the board isn't mostly political and people can see people for who they are and not who they're voting for :D
I agree, the political stuff gets tired fast. I really have no problem with someone's political agenda. That is only one part of their personality.
nightrider127
10-11-2004, 01:43 PM
I think it was Katt who said that this kind of stuff comes in cycles and she was right. I have been at BBS for a long time and I have seen more than one of these cycles.
We are in the middle of a very heated presidential race and I tend to think that that is what has gotten people on edge. Some people think that the country will go to pot if President Bush is reelected, others think it will go to pot if he is reelected. This is causing people to worry about what the future will be and it sometimes shows up in the way they post their comments.
I look for things to settle down after the elections and people are not so on edge.
bsg_06
10-11-2004, 02:00 PM
Some of us don't post here because too many people can't take a joke. Their skin is too thin and they get insulted WAY too easily. They tend to confuse sarcasm and real insults. They get offended by the most gentle of admonishments.
BigLyd1
10-11-2004, 02:15 PM
I wonder if it's just a little "tension" lately because of the upcoming election. I try to stay out of those threads for the most part... because this election in particular brings about a lot of strong feelings.
They tend to confuse sarcasm and real insults. They get offended by the most gentle of admonishments.
Sarcasm IS insulting. It is used to make a person feel stupid, or to insult them under the guise of it being a joke or whatever. It boils down to the same thing and it's not what this board is about.
If people get offended by the most gentle of admonishments, why bother taking the time to say something? Why not just move on and ignore the person? It takes more time to post something that is going to upset someone, then to just move along and hit the X button. Most of the time, those posts are only made to stir up trouble anyway, not to help the person and explain why they are wrong. Yes, everyone is entitled to their own opinion or whatever and should be able to state it, but why set out to be sarcastic, insulting, or to go into a post just to be like that? It's called common curtesy and it's something that I guess a lot of parents forgot to teach their children as they were growing up. A disagreement can occur and it can be done with class, and both parties will come out of it better. Heck, Tech and I used to fight on the board mercilessly. Now, I consider him to be a very good friend and confidant. If it's possible for two VERY opinionated and aguementative people to think about the others arguements rationally, then I think it's possible for others on this board to get their points across without being mean, insulting, disrespectful, or any of the other things I've seen going on recently. But unfortunately, class is something that has been lacking on the boards and this is what happens.
And as for this board going in a bad direction, it takes more than just a few people to send it down that road. We see a lot more than people think we do. We see the people who play nice on the boards, then turn around and try to get people in trouble through the email system. We see the ones who cause trouble on the boards, then email as soon as someone stands up for themselves and says something back. We see people who try to be sneaky and break the rules, yet scream when they are warned. We also see the ones who only report other people once they, themselves, have been caught and want to make the other people get in trouble too. Sooo, if the ones that think it's terrible here would just move on to a place they are more comfortable, and let the ones that DO enjoy the board actually enjoy it, then it would be better for everyone. We try to enforce the rules and people gripe. We slack off because everyone feels we are doing out job too well, and people gripe. It's a never ending battle that hits a peak every few months. Guess it's that time again. I will not, however, appologize for doing my job. Those rules are here for a reason, and if they are too demanding, or too hard to follow, then it would seem this isn't the place for some. No harm, no foul, move on.
And, just as a reminder for those that forget, the rules of conduct are available at EVERY enterance to EVERY part of the board. It would help if they would be read every once in a while to refresh the memories on what people agreed to when they joined the board. :) Because, like it or not, those WERE agreed to, or membership isn't granted, so it's not like we are changing stuff daily, there have been no hidden suprises.
Technologist
10-11-2004, 06:18 PM
Heck, Tech and I used to fight on the board mercilessly. Now, I consider him to be a very good friend and confidant. If it's possible for two VERY opinionated and aguementative people to think about the others arguements rationally, then I think it's possible for others on this board to get their points across without being mean, insulting, disrespectful, or any of the other things I've seen going on recently.
*Tech swoons from the compliment*
I don't know why Katt said "used to fight"... we still do!!! :eek:
But it isn't really fighting, it is a rational, calm, disagreement most of the time. We do not stoop to name calling, or cursing, or sarcasm, or yelling.
Subtlety is a lost (and untrainable / unlearnable) art. You can "help" people by pointing out their errors, or you can help people by offering a kind suggestion.... WHICH would you rather have happen to you??? If you don't know the difference, or can't choose the right one, then my suggestion is close the thread, and MAYBE come back later and try again.... or let it go.
I ALWAYS put myself in someone else's shoes... and treat that person the way I WANT to be treated. I'm not saying I'm perfect (I've snapped several times here, and I've quit numerous times).... but one or two of my close friends calm me down and get me back into the healthy frame of mind....
An easy way to mingle with people here is to treat everyone like they are a loved family member.... don't cuss at them, don't yell at them, don't correct them in public, don't gossip about them, and DON'T buy them presents (ooops, that's my way of treating family...LOL!).
Play nice, or NO RECESS!!!
Mom2jal
10-11-2004, 06:20 PM
*cough*Suck up*cough*
Technologist
10-11-2004, 07:09 PM
Speaking of fighting..... It's my old nemesis.....
now if y'all thought Katt and I fought, you should have seen me and Mom... LOL!
bngomom
10-11-2004, 07:10 PM
A little controversy once in a while keeps things interesting.
Technologist
10-11-2004, 07:15 PM
A little controversy once in a while keeps things interesting.
You want controversy.... watch Jerry Springer :eek: LOL!!! and Just Kidding!
I'd rather just read through the boards like I used to, finding good deals, and helping people with computer problems... :D
Mom2jal
10-11-2004, 08:20 PM
Poor Tech. Are you still skeered of me? :p
I don't know about Tech, but I am. :p
Mom2jal
10-11-2004, 08:36 PM
I don't know about Tech, but I am. :p
BOO!
bsg_06
10-11-2004, 09:23 PM
"Sarcasm IS insulting. It is used to make a person feel stupid, or to insult them under the guise of it being a joke or whatever. It boils down to the same thing and it's not what this board is about."
That is SO untrue!! Sarcasm is the same as gentle humor. Failure to differentiate sarcasm and insults represents a serious failure in your sense of humor. Perhaps you need to lighten up a bit.
Once again, if this is a Vent and Whine forum, why can't you vent and whine as bit? A Vent and Whine forum should not be used to fish for compliments and seek out pats on the back. Perhaps BBS needs a "please feel sorry for me" forum. :)
ahippiechic
10-11-2004, 11:30 PM
Perhaps BBS needs a "please feel sorry for me" forum. :)
And it would probably be the most used forum on here! I really try not to respond to those kind of posts, but it gets really hard. So I just talk about it with my friends, let off a little steam, and that helps keep me from posting a lot of mean things.
I really don't think BBS has changed a whole lot. These cycles always happen.
rlynn411
10-12-2004, 04:32 AM
sar·casm ( P ) Pronunciation Key (särkzm)
n.
A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.
Doesn't sound so "gentle" or "humorous".....
Angelseyes28
10-12-2004, 05:19 AM
That is SO untrue!! Sarcasm is the same as gentle humor. Failure to differentiate sarcasm and insults represents a serious failure in your sense of humor. Perhaps you need to lighten up a bit.
First off, you really should do a little reading of definitions before trying to match wits with an administrator of these boards. Sarcasm is not the same as gentle humor but that really doesn't matter. The bottom line is your replies are nothing more than comments meant to rile up another member. The rules of these boards are here for a purpose, they are not things we made up. As a matter of fact you agreed to these rules when you registered to become a member here. One of the things that is strictly prohibited is
• Posting rude or abusive remarks or comments towards other members, administration or moderators of the BigBigSavings Forums.
Obviously you must have missed reading that rule before you registered at BBS. No problem, I am suspended your account for one week so you can take the time to refresh yourself with the rules of these boards.
kelly12569
10-12-2004, 05:56 AM
That is SO untrue!! Sarcasm is the same as gentle humor. Failure to differentiate sarcasm and insults represents a serious failure in your sense of humor. Perhaps you need to lighten up a bit.
Once again, if this is a Vent and Whine forum, why can't you vent and whine as bit? A Vent and Whine forum should not be used to fish for compliments and seek out pats on the back. Perhaps BBS needs a "please feel sorry for me" forum. :)
example A
:rolleyes:
basically what I meant when I posted was it seems like no matter what thread you post in it seems lately there are a few that seem to take that post down hill no matter what the topic is. IE: someone posts something they think is great in off topic, then someone comes along and says something negative, it turns into a vent / whine , then it turns into a virtual brawl online, then the thread is closed and some one is banned.....
I didnt mean anything or anyone specific, because its been so frequent in here lately but there was a prime example above and it seems to be repetitive for that person.
I guess I was just missing the way it used to be in here..... fun, fast moving and always light hearted humor that ppl knew what they meant and how they meant it..... in a good way :p
have a great day all ;)
EtherealGirl
10-12-2004, 06:00 AM
And as for this board going in a bad direction, it takes more than just a few people to send it down that road. We see a lot more than people think we do. We see the people who play nice on the boards, then turn around and try to get people in trouble through the email system. We see the ones who cause trouble on the boards, then email as soon as someone stands up for themselves and says something back. We see people who try to be sneaky and break the rules, yet scream when they are warned. We also see the ones who only report other people once they, themselves, have been caught and want to make the other people get in trouble too. Sooo, if the ones that think it's terrible here would just move on to a place they are more comfortable, and let the ones that DO enjoy the board actually enjoy it, then it would be better for everyone. We try to enforce the rules and people gripe. We slack off because everyone feels we are doing out job too well, and people gripe. It's a never ending battle that hits a peak every few months. Guess it's that time again. I will not, however, appologize for doing my job. Those rules are here for a reason, and if they are too demanding, or too hard to follow, then it would seem this isn't the place for some. No harm, no foul, move on.
In all the years I've been here, this issue does tend to come up in cycles. I lived through a pretty harrowing one a few years back. What I've learned is that the people who truly enjoy it here, stay for the long haul. The unhappy ones eventually move on. But, this site is not going in any negative direction. The mods do their job extremely well, always have, and always will.
The best lesson I ever learned from them, and from Alex, is to IGNORE posts I don't like or agree with. It makes for a very pleasant BigBig experience. And sucking up to Katt every now and then goes a long way
;)
kelly12569
10-12-2004, 06:03 AM
And sucking up to Katt every now and then goes a long way
;)
:eek: ummmmm you said that out loud.... LMBO :p ;)
Tasha405
10-12-2004, 06:47 AM
Poor Tech. Are you still skeered of me? :pI am a little bit. :p
Now Katt on the other hand REALLY scares me. :o
Crick
10-12-2004, 06:55 AM
I agree. It does goe in cycles. I've been accused of everything under the sun at one time or another by people. Just have to learn to let it roll off your back. But at least I admit I am opinionated and enjoy a good debate even when people accuse me of being rude. After all these years I would have thought people knew not to take me seriously but I forget that there is always new members who don't know me or my way of posting. Then again many of the older members haven't figured it out yet either. :D As for sucking up, not my style....except to KATT because I know she loves it.
LuvBigRip
10-12-2004, 09:58 AM
I have been here almost a year now, and when you first join a board, you have no idea of the history of some of its more senior members. Some posts that I would have taken as good natured ribbing, or humorous sarcasm I later see is continual snippiness between members. I am personally a sarcastic person by nature, and rarely take things personally. But the one thing I have learned is that unless you are amongst friends, sarcasm and the tone it carries IRL are lost by most people online. Now that I found out how to work the ignore feature, things are great. Too bad it doesn't work when someone quotes them though. There have been a few really helpful members here, and some which are now on ignore.
menanamama
10-12-2004, 01:40 PM
I figure I'll make more friends after November 2nd and the board isn't mostly political and people can see people for who they are and not who they're voting for :D
you could be right there...lol. and it does seem to be the samer person or persons almost all the time.
catdance
10-12-2004, 03:43 PM
I think everyone has a right to express themselves, we live in a democracy, but in this case we at BBS live under certain rules as well, I apperciate most stuff I read or "join into", I guess becasue the WORLD as we all know it, (and we aren't 12 or anything) has provided a very different place, ane we all are struggling one way or another, so I apperciate the places BBS provides to take some steam off, or the burden on one's shoulder's, or get ((HUGS)). What I am sure I don't care for, is when a link will go amiss, and then change into something so totally different.. and since we aren't 12, anymore, really, we should take responsibility for what we are saying and responding to.
I feel we should appreciate each other and be kind, and if you seek comfort, or whatever, know it is here, or another forum, and I leave this idea, as this: BBS is a gift, a special place, so act "as if it is just that"...
And if you can't agree with a link, or 'play nice or be fair, or whatever"..just exit from it, there is always another one...
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