View Full Version : I'm gonna wring this teachers neck!!!!!
Angelseyes28
08-18-2004, 03:37 PM
My daughter came out of school this afternoon and I could tell she was upset. I asked her what was wrong and she started crying and held her hand out. She had a HUGE blister on her finger that had peeled open. Long story short she got it from writing punishment work for something that she didn't do. The teacher left the room and when she came back some of the kids were talking and acting up. The teacher decided to make the whole class write their spelling words twenty times each. There are 20 spelling words this week, so that means that they have 400 words to write, plus 30 sentences for homework. She told the class that if they didn't do the words, they would miss activity period each day until they got them done........
First off it will be a cold day in hades before you will punish my child for something she didn't do! She is NOT going to finish these words because "I" told her not to.
Second, if you dare try to take activities away from my daughter because she doesn't finish this work, you better go into hiding!
Third, if you had kept your bleepin tail in the classroom where you belong then the kids wouldn't have been misbehaving!!!!!
Fourth, you better pray that I have calmed down before I get to school tomorrow morning!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
queenangie
08-18-2004, 04:22 PM
Looks like it's gonna be a long, long year w/ this teacher.
DivineMsDi
08-18-2004, 04:47 PM
I don't believe in punishing the whole class for something a few kids do. (sounds like an army trick). I used to be a teacher but I never doled out group punishments.
I remember we had an old witch teacher when I was a kid who used to punish "bad" kids by making them write times tables.
It stinks when you have a bad time early in the school year..... :(
MamaFairal
08-18-2004, 04:48 PM
i wonder how the teacher would feel if one of her students had gotten hurt while she wasnt in the classroom?
Gonna be a long year huh?
DaLilPeachy
08-18-2004, 04:58 PM
That is SUCH BS! And might I just add that i cannot think of a better way to make a child hate writing and spelling
YankeeMary
08-18-2004, 05:05 PM
Angeleyes want me to go with you? Iam still furious over the school supplies.
andreame70
08-18-2004, 05:34 PM
I had a teacher in middle school that used to do this same kind of thing and I absolutely hated her. Her punishments for everything were severe too. One day, at the end of the year, with maybe a week left of school, I accidentally left my book bag at home. My homework for her class was in the bag and my parents were both at work and could not get back to the school in time to bring it to me. This was the first time I had ever not had my homework in her class all year. She decided that the three of us that did not have our homework that day were getting paddled and she called us out in the hallway. I got 5 swats with a wooden paddle for it. It hurt so bad that I could not sit down because of it. I was ashamed, furious and embarrassed. My parents went to school the next morning and it got ugly. The principal had to have my Dad removed from the campus because he blew up at the teacher (he made some very serious threats). My Mom made it very clear that no one at that school was to put their hands on me without one of my parents being called first. The teacher was known to do things like this at almost any given time, but occasionally, she was moody and the severity of the punishment was worse when she was in a bad mood.This is the main reason that I do not believe in corporal punishment in the schools. Let the parent be the parent. If you have problems with my child, remove him from the classroom, call me, and I promise you will not have those problems anymore.
I am sorry that this happened to your child and I do not blame you for being mad as hell. The teacher should not have left the room unless she had a teacher's aid available to take over. In either case, the problem could have easily been avoided, if the teacher had done her job or had a backup. Making your daughter pay for the bad behavior of others is not right. Your daughter deserves an apology from the mouth of this teacher and the principal needs to note on the teachers personnel file that a complaint was filed by a parent regarding inappropriate discipline practices in her classroom.
I am curious also, what grade is your daughter in? The reason I am asking is because I am wondering if the children were even old enough to reasonably be left alone in the classroom to begin with.
Good luck and I hope that the principal does something to fix this before the lady gets worse. For Christ's sake the year has just started and your daughter is already scarred by this womans lack of judgment.
Let us know how it goes.
Andrea
Willow
08-18-2004, 06:00 PM
Oh that is just wrong. :mad: Let us know how it goes.
Freebeemom
08-18-2004, 06:29 PM
That seems like a very extreme punishment for the whole class...sounds like the teacher was embarrassed that she was caught leaving the room...so she took it out on the kids.
I know you are upset, but stay cool...your daughter has to deal with this teacher for the time being. If you don't like the teacher's response, contact other parents and go to the principal. Getting mad and SCREAMING at the teacher will only make things worse....I know you are mad...I would be as well! HANG IN THERE MOM!!!!
Angel Lips
08-18-2004, 06:42 PM
Angeleyes want me to go with you? Iam still furious over the school supplies.
better take the killer mower along with you guys
Tasha405
08-18-2004, 06:57 PM
Oh girl I don't blame ya one bit for being mad because I know I would be too!! Good luck at the school tomorrow!! {{{Hugs}}}
adorkablex
08-18-2004, 07:23 PM
We had to do stuff like that alot. I never really minded it I don't guess.
kelly12569
08-18-2004, 08:11 PM
OMG almost the same thing happened to my daughter today!! First thing she told me when she got off the bus was that she had to write a full page essay due tomorrow because a few kids in their SSP (like study hall) were loud today so the teacher got "ticked" and said the ENTIRE class would be writing a full page essay and that maybe the fact that all the innocent kids would be "ticked" at the guilty kids would make the guilty kids think twice about their actions. Man that is so WRONG. :mad: I was so ticked when she told me that. Lemme know what comes outta tomorrow!
farren
08-18-2004, 10:07 PM
I bet you would be surprised at how often teachers leave the rooms be it first or second grade even. They are usually making copies of this that or the other. I've never had one of my kids say that an aid was there. Good luck at getting absolutely anything done about this. They will more than likely say that they could use parental help or something. I don't know if you work or not, but I imagine that will be the first thing they claim. Seems as if they try to use not enough parents helping regardless of the problem. I don't care how many parents actually do help.
As for punishing all instead of just the culprits...hmmm I bet well a teacher had to take claim of her classroom and if she doesn't know who caused the problem punishing the whole class would be the way.
Sorry, I know I haven't helped, lol, but I'm kind of bitter I guess. The best way I've found is to try to start out as calm as possible. I hope you get some satisfaction.
jedmatters
08-19-2004, 03:35 AM
If she was called to another class or to the office or nurse it is explainable. As long as she was in the school itself, it is allowed. It is like you goingto the livingroom while your childrena re in their own rooms. You can not see them, buit you know what they are supposed to do.
And teachers around her know she is out of the room as well.
As well as the punishment. She expects the entire class to behave. And as an entire class they are going to pay. Many teachers use this. It shows students that acting up can affect more than just you.
Most likely, the office will do nothing. The punishment sounds normal. And the only classrooms with full time aides are usually special needs classrooms.
Angelseyes28
08-19-2004, 04:04 AM
LOL YankeeMary first I will beat the teacher with the school supply list and then run over her with Angel Lips' killer mower:D
I'll let you all know how things go. There is no hope for me being nice and calm....that's just not me. If the teacher wants me nice and calm then she should have thought of that BEFORE she did what she did. Worst case scenario will be that the school does nothing......in that case, this teacher will have a new student.....a 31 yr old mother of 2:D
Njean31
08-19-2004, 05:06 AM
it may not be fair, but i remember having it done all the time when i was a kid. i think it must be something taught for people who deal with large groups of people. they do it in the military for instance if something goes missing in a unit, they lock down the entire unit until it's found...it usually don't take long until someone rats them out. they also do this in the jail i work at, it causes the group to rat out the culprit (and in some cases causes the group to beat the daylights out of the culprit).
on the bright side, i'll bet your kid will ace her spelling test :)
Tasha405
08-19-2004, 05:39 AM
I had to do this too when I was in school but that still doesn't make it right. And no I don't think its like leaving your kids in their room while you go into the living room. You make your house safe for your kids and its usually only your kids there... not 20 to 30 other kids in one room. I only had a few teachers who would do this or even leave their room while the class was full. That's usually why teachers have a planning period during the day... to make their copies and things like that. I don't blame her one bit for being mad. I would not put up with my kid being punished for something she did not do. Its not the army or military, its school! We don't send our kids to school to be treated this way, we send them to learn reading, writing, math, science and so on.
A couple of the teachers I had would have one student make a list of people who would talk or get out of their seats while he/she was out of the room and then only punish those kids. That's how it should be. If they have to leave the room for an emergency or important phone call then they need to do something like this.
Good luck this morning and if I were closer to ya I would go with ya! LOL
Angel Lips
08-19-2004, 05:41 AM
If you need back up i'll follow you and i'll bring my frying pan *knock a momma* lol, hmm mary you better drive the killer mower only you know how to destory that sucker...lmao. Hope all goes well angelseye and you dont do to much damage
Angelseyes28
08-19-2004, 07:06 AM
I'm back!!!!
I was calm, cool and collected....that is, till I lost my cool :o
I started by asking her if my daughter had been talking yesterday and she said "I don't know". Well why is she being punished then if you don't know if she deserves it. "Because I wasn't in the room." Ummm ok, why weren't you in the room? "I was having to get information, I was right outside the door." If you were right outside the door, then why didn't you look in to see who was misbehaving instead of punishing the whole class? "Look I had to get some information from another teacher." Ok, so you had to get information, so be it. But Nikki has a huge blister on her finger from doing punishment work for something she didn't do. I put a bandaid on her finger and she did all of her homework, and we studied for her 3 tests but I didn't make her finish her punishment work. We weren't going to stay up till 11:00 last night trying to finish writing these 400 words.
Here is where things went completely downhill..... She gasps and says.."WHATEVER! OH JUST WHATEVER!!!!!"
Oh no you didn't!!!!!!!! Don't you DARE try to get an attitude and raise your voice to me when you are the one in the wrong! I went straight to the assistant principal and then on to the main principal. They both agreed with me, and the main principal documented everything that I said and said that he was going to discuss these issues with her. I told him that I don't agree with group punishment because it would be no different if a teacher were to do something wrong but since you weren't sure which one it was, let's just dock every teachers pay. He completely agreed and said that good students that are being punished for the misbehaving students behavior will soon become misbehaving students themselves because "why even try if I'm going to be punished anyhow".
I also told him that since I don't work(he knows this since I am the boxtops coordinator) that I would have no problem sitting in my daughters class everyday for the rest of the year, just to make sure she doesn't get punished for something she didn't do. For some reason he found that comical....could be he was picturing me squeezing into one of those little desks :eek:
Anyhow, we will see how things stand at the end of the day when school lets out. I have a feeling one of two things will happen. Either this teacher will get her act together or I will be moving my daughter to another classroom.
MamaFairal
08-19-2004, 07:37 AM
You Go Girl :D
YNKYH8R
08-19-2004, 07:43 AM
[QUOTE=angelseyes28]
Here is where things went completely downhill..... She gasps and says.."WHATEVER! OH JUST WHATEVER!!!!!"
QUOTE]
I hate that response. 'Oh, whatever?' What is she 15?
Good job in holding your cool. Good thing you got the principal to back you up too.
As for group punishment, I don't entirely agree with it. But I definatley don't agree with write 400 frickin' words on paper. Sheesh, my boss at work does that to us when the office is misbehaving.
Just kidding :)
sahmsfreeb
08-19-2004, 08:10 AM
in life i find that with children there are at least 3 sides to the truth...
hers
theirs
and the
actual truth..
not saying your kid lied...
but having taught and i did use a group punishment but only when the classroom itself (by majority was bad) and i never left the room never!!!
i took time from their recess.. not by writing but by silently sitting with their hands folded on the desk. then i called them idividually after the 10 minutes to go outside. they hated that!!!
infact i only did it once! as a group they were fine after that!
what im saying is that sometimes there is a group of kids that wind the rest up. and it just is a bad buch of wild kids for the year...
they get separated the following year! lol!!!
Tasha405
08-19-2004, 08:36 AM
You go girl!! Hopefully things will be better for the rest of the year. lol
Angel Lips
08-19-2004, 09:24 AM
glad you gave them a piece of your mind, now i just hope things get straighten out, it be funny as heck if that teacher lost her job..lol
Njean31
08-19-2004, 11:07 AM
it be funny as heck if that teacher lost her job..lol
umm, no it wouldn't. what, she went to school atleast 4 years to do this, there is a nationwide teacher shortage, and she made a questionable mistake?
i don't find it funny when people lose thier jobs, especially one that's so hard to earn.
Willow
08-19-2004, 11:23 AM
Glad you were able to talk to the principal about this. I cannot believe that teachers attitude. The principal should make her write "whatever" 800 times on the blackboard. lol The first thing she did wrong was to leave the students unattended even if she was just right outside the door. If she was actually standing in the doorway of the classroom with the door open that would of been different but it sounds like she walked out of the room and closed the door behind her. She makes a mistake and then punishes the class for it. :rolleyes:
iluvmybaby
08-19-2004, 12:21 PM
You go girl
YNKYH8R
08-19-2004, 12:49 PM
umm, no it wouldn't. what, she went to school atleast 4 years to do this, there is a nationwide teacher shortage, and she made a questionable mistake?
i don't find it funny when people lose thier jobs, especially one that's so hard to earn.
I can agree with that. My wife went for four years to college for early childhood education. In Maine the average salary, for a teacher is, $22,000 a year, and they don't get social security.
FYI
momfromTN
08-19-2004, 03:42 PM
I do think the punishment was a little extreme, but I hope you don't talk about that teacher that way in front of your child. Like her or not, your child needs to respect authority. Funny, though. When I was in school, I remember the teachers could step out for a minute and we knew to behave. We didn't have to be watched EVERY single second. It was known that if we stepped out of line, the whole class would be punished for it. Believe me, we sure didn't want to be the kid who got the whole class in trouble!
I also don't think it would be funny for that teacher to lose her job. Sounds like she made an error, but it is not like she took off for an hour to the local bar. Maybe she was having a bad day. Even teachers are human. You couldn't pay me to be one. I couldn't deal with undisciplined children and their parents who think their darling does no wrong. (I am not saying this is the case with the OP at all, but there is a LOT of that kind of thing now.) Now, if this becomes a habit with this teacher, then you and some other parents need a conference with the principal to discuss this.
stresseater
08-19-2004, 03:55 PM
As well as the punishment. She expects the entire class to behave. And as an entire class they are going to pay. Many teachers use this. It shows students that acting up can affect more than just you.
ITA and this is a lesson that many moe kids need to learn. It might make a lot of kids think about their actions BEFORE they take them. ;) ;)
I don't think it would be funny if she lost her job either. I think it's sad that (a) a teacher can't trust a class of school kids for a few min. when she has to step out. (b) That her teaching ability is called into question when she tries to instill a bit of disciplan in her class. The erosion of disciplan in schools are a GIANT part of the problem. Fortunatly where I live they still have controll over the children. ;) :D
YankeeMary
08-19-2004, 04:10 PM
I have to say I am sure that Angel Lips didn't mean that it would be funny if she lost her job per say, just that she got repremaned, she isn't a mean person, she was just using the words loosely. Secondly, I must say that during that couple of minutes that the teacher is out of the room numerous things can happen, a child could have a seizure, asthma attack, pull out a gun to show it off and it accidentally discharges and now there is a dead or seriously injured child. Thirdly, I have said this in my other post in regards to the school supplies, it is not my problem what teachers are paid, it is a profession that THEY chose. (YNKH8TER..I just love your DW and this isn't directed soley to her ok, I think she is a sweetie) with that being said, in my school district the teachers make way over $22,000.00 a year.
If it is necassary for the teacher to leave the room they can call the office for a "babysitter" especially this early in the year being she really doesn't know how her class is really going to behave. I agree that we (adults or parents) should expect the kids to behave for a bit alone, but with so much happening in the world today why would a teacher chance it? As for punishing all the kids as a whole is wrong, since some kids don't care about their fellow students so if they get them in trouble also then he/she won't be alone. I have one well behaved child and one thats well not so behaved. If my well behaved son came home with the same sceniero as Angeleyes I would have been ticked to cause I KNOW MY CHILD, if it had been my other son, my reaction would have been different. Angel pat on the back you kept your kool and stood up for your child.
Momof2totsand1teen
08-19-2004, 04:45 PM
I do think the punishment was a little extreme, but I hope you don't talk about that teacher that way in front of your child. Like her or not, your child needs to respect authority. Funny, though. When I was in school, I remember the teachers could step out for a minute and we knew to behave. We didn't have to be watched EVERY single second. It was known that if we stepped out of line, the whole class would be punished for it. Believe me, we sure didn't want to be the kid who got the whole class in trouble!
I also don't think it would be funny for that teacher to lose her job. Sounds like she made an error, but it is not like she took off for an hour to the local bar. Maybe she was having a bad day. Even teachers are human. You couldn't pay me to be one. I couldn't deal with undisciplined children and their parents who think their darling does no wrong. (I am not saying this is the case with the OP at all, but there is a LOT of that kind of thing now.) Now, if this becomes a habit with this teacher, then you and some other parents need a conference with the principal to discuss this.
ITA! It is sad how times have changed. I would not be a teacher for any amount of money.
AngelGrim
08-19-2004, 08:21 PM
What I think is sad, is that the teacher is responsible for 20-30 children but yet she can walk out of the room and not leave a monitor, I think every class should have a monitor or one that can be called on a intercom, so that you don't have to worry, face it these are CHILDREN not adults and so if they get out of hand you should not be shocked. It is not shocking to me one bit that they got a bit unruly. But the punishment is wrong, it is like saying ok there are murderers out there in the world so lets punish the whole world. It teaches them that even if they are good, WHO CARES punish them too. To me that is unacceptable. JMHO!!!!
Angel Lips
08-19-2004, 08:55 PM
the teacher needs to think about how her actions were wrong to begin with to leave the room, even if she was just outside maybe another available teacher could have standed in with the class while she was outside the room doign whatever it was she was doing. as mary stated i was only using it loosely that it be funny if she lost her job, im pretty much aware of the term of schooling you go for on a teaching degree, i did early childhood education as well so impretty aware of it all, but if this teacher learned anythign while she was in school she know not to leave a class unattended and than punish the class like that.
reneep45
08-19-2004, 08:58 PM
What I think is sad, is that the teacher is responsible for 20-30 children but yet she can walk out of the room and not leave a monitor, I think every class should have a monitor or one that can be called on a intercom, so that you don't have to worry, face it these are CHILDREN not adults and so if they get out of hand you should not be shocked. It is not shocking to me one bit that they got a bit unruly. But the punishment is wrong, it is like saying ok there are murderers out there in the world so lets punish the whole world. It teaches them that even if they are good, WHO CARES punish them too. To me that is unacceptable. JMHO!!!!
I AGREE !! & Now that this teacher knows you care about your child & will stick up for her , she probably will be nicer to your child. Thats what happened when i confronted one of my daughters teachers.
Technologist
08-20-2004, 05:36 PM
Angelseyes reminds me of my mom....
My 2nd grade teacher grabbed my by hair and yanked me out of my chair...
My mother made an appointment to see her, to discuss my behavior.... about 3 minutes into the "discussion", my mother grabbed the teacher by her hair and dragged her across her desk.... and said "I guess you realize your mistake now, don't you?"
Needless to say, nothing else EVER came up in any discussions in the future, about either event.... and that teacher was SOOOOOOOOO nice to me from then on!
BTW, this was MANY, MANY years ago, in a private school.... it would never happen like this today!
YankeeMary
08-20-2004, 06:13 PM
Angelseyes reminds me of my mom....
My 2nd grade teacher grabbed my by hair and yanked me out of my chair...
My mother made an appointment to see her, to discuss my behavior.... about 3 minutes into the "discussion", my mother grabbed the teacher by her hair and dragged her across her desk.... and said "I guess you realize your mistake now, don't you?"
Needless to say, nothing else EVER came up in any discussions in the future, about either event.... and that teacher was SOOOOOOOOO nice to me from then on!
BTW, this was MANY, MANY years ago, in a private school.... it would never happen like this today!
Tech I think I would really like your mother...
kimmylg
08-21-2004, 07:43 PM
What I think is sad, is that the teacher is responsible for 20-30 children but yet she can walk out of the room and not leave a monitor, I think every class should have a monitor or one that can be called on a intercom, so that you don't have to worry, face it these are CHILDREN not adults and so if they get out of hand you should not be shocked.
Yep- every class needs an aide and every school bus needs a monitor, but it ain't gonna' happen. I am a bus driver, and I'm here to tell you that just like everything else in this world, its all about the money. Figure up how much it would cost for every classroom and bus in America to have another paid staff member, even for the good of the kids. Nope, they would rather have one underpaid adult responsible to do a totally impossible job. Keeping all 60 (on a bus) kids under control, all their parents reasonably happy :rolleyes: and safely driving the bus with your back to all of them.
BTW- When kids on my bus get out of control, and I can't see who did it, and no one will tell me-- they ALL have to ride in silence. (the 400 spelling words is a bit extreme, though)
And for the poster who said that if a teacher leaves the room, then they can call for a babysitter from the office. That is just not true. Who is gonna' babysit? The receptionist? The secretary? The principal? Nope- that is just not feasable (sp?).
YankeeMary
08-21-2004, 08:13 PM
Yep- every class needs an aide and every school bus needs a monitor, but it ain't gonna' happen. I am a bus driver, and I'm here to tell you that just like everything else in this world, its all about the money. Figure up how much it would cost for every classroom and bus in America to have another paid staff member, even for the good of the kids. Nope, they would rather have one underpaid adult responsible to do a totally impossible job. Keeping all 60 (on a bus) kids under control, all their parents reasonably happy :rolleyes: and safely driving the bus with your back to all of them.
BTW- When kids on my bus get out of control, and I can't see who did it, and no one will tell me-- they ALL have to ride in silence. (the 400 spelling words is a bit extreme, though)
And for the poster who said that if a teacher leaves the room, then they can call for a babysitter from the office. That is just not true. Who is gonna' babysit? The receptionist? The secretary? The principal? Nope- that is just not feasable (sp?).
I said call for a babysitter, and if thats not possible then she/he needs to STAY in the room where they belong. They get a whole period for "planning" get it together then. If you have a job outside of teaching you don't get to walk off the job because you needed to or forgot to. You get scheduled breaks. You drive a school bus, if you forgot to get you a drink, or forgot your cigs at home (I know you can't smoke on the bus), or you have to use the restroom, well you can't just pull into a store and get what you need, you have to wait until your job is done right? Teachers are no different.
And I have to add that I think school bus drives are the most underpaid people in the entire working profession. Everyone complains that teachers are underpaid, they are rich compared to the bus drivers who have to get our kids to and from school safely everyday. My good friend up home is a bus driver and I tell you she goes through alot with those kids, but loves them all dearly. Alot of responsibility and very little pay. I am not against teachers, and I appreciate what they do until they decide they are some kind of god and take advantage of their position.
Blondiex46
08-22-2004, 09:55 AM
Just curious (and in case I missed it) what grade are we talking AND did any other parents have a complaint or say something to somebody. My kids don't tell me anything that goes on in school (5th grade next month) I find out from other parents usually at their football practices or games (or other sports depending on the season) Like I found out from other parents that the teacher was having yelling, screaming fights with her husband on the phone, in the classroom while she was teaching the kids. My kids never told me anything and when I brought it up to them they thought it was fine, I was like no she did not. Anyway, she was told no personal calls but what effect did that have to the kids, especially if she was still angry and taking it out on them. So just wondered. I never complained cause they told her no personal calls anymore but it has to question the capabilities of not being a teacher but social skills if not thing else.
YankeeMary
08-22-2004, 10:06 AM
My sons favorite teacher and mine as well (when he was in 1st grade, now he is in the 6th) had been pregant the previous year and proceeded to tell the children that she had twins but the other one died and she had to remain pregant with one live baby and one deceased baby in her belly for over a month. I can't imagine what in the world would make her tell 1st graders something so tragic. Maybe she thought it was a learning experience, maybe she just needed to talk about it?!?! I really don't know, I just know that my son still talks about it five years later, and the day she told the class this, he cried and cried. Maybe the teachers get so close to these kids they feel like they are their own kids? I don't know but they really need to think about what they are doing in front of kids. My oldest has a teacher (also our fav) and she constantly gets personal calls...we all now know everything that happens in her family.
Angelseyes28
08-22-2004, 03:08 PM
Just curious (and in case I missed it) what grade are we talking AND did any other parents have a complaint or say something to somebody. My kids don't tell me anything that goes on in school (5th grade next month) I find out from other parents usually at their football practices or games (or other sports depending on the season) .
It's 4th grade. And I found out later that 7-8 other parents got to her before I did lol. Guess that's why she had an attitude right off the bat. Oh and for some reason she didn't come to school Friday. Don't know and honestly don't care. Thankfully my daughter tells me EVERYTHING that goes on at school and in her class(she even tells off on herself lol). That's how I found out last year that one of the faculty was making kids throw their lunch away if they were caught talking in the lunch room.
VALENA-)45
08-22-2004, 04:07 PM
I told my sons teachers, don't put your hands on my sons, if they do something, send a note home with them and i will see them about acting up in class. i told the teachers in front of my sons, they didn't do anything. when it came to my sons, and someboy else hitting them i was not a nice mother!!!!!
kimmylg
08-22-2004, 07:45 PM
And I have to add that I think school bus drives are the most underpaid people in the entire working profession. Everyone complains that teachers are underpaid, they are rich compared to the bus drivers who have to get our kids to and from school safely everyday. My good friend up home is a bus driver and I tell you she goes through alot with those kids, but loves them all dearly. Alot of responsibility and very little pay. I am not against teachers, and I appreciate what they do until they decide they are some kind of god and take advantage of their position.
God bless you for saying that, YankeeMary. I completely have to agree with your friend. I love all of my kids dearly, and that is why I am so strict with them. I could never face their parents or live with myself if anything ever happened to them. And there are times when I wish I could park the bus on the side of the road and just walk away from it. But every afternoon the little kindergarteners and first graders get on and give me a great big hug or they see me in the grocery store and run up to me and hug me or they drew me a picture in school (or they give me the things they were supposed to give their parents, but they want ME to have it :p ). Those times more than make up for the rough times! :)
YankeeMary
08-23-2004, 08:47 AM
God bless you for saying that, YankeeMary. I completely have to agree with your friend. I love all of my kids dearly, and that is why I am so strict with them. I could never face their parents or live with myself if anything ever happened to them. And there are times when I wish I could park the bus on the side of the road and just walk away from it. But every afternoon the little kindergarteners and first graders get on and give me a great big hug or they see me in the grocery store and run up to me and hug me or they drew me a picture in school (or they give me the things they were supposed to give their parents, but they want ME to have it :p ). Those times more than make up for the rough times! :)
I imagine so...not much finacial benefit but those hugs sure make up for it right? Just to let you know my sons are the kids that come up to their bus drivers in the store and act like they just met the President of the United States, (of course when they were younger). They would say look mom this is such and such just look mom...I would be face to face with them not having any idea as to what to say...lol.
Blondiex46
08-23-2004, 11:26 AM
I really don't think that teachers realize how much effect they have on the kids they work with. Some of the kids for instance have no mother and have woman teacher so this is the on woman they may come in contact with, same goes for a man teacher. Teachers can sometimes make or break a child and their opinion of school and authority figures. Bus drivers are sometimes have the same effect. They see the kids in the morning when they are first going away from the safeness of their home and at the end of the day. I also believe that it takes a special person to be a teacher and bus driver and I do appreciate them, but sometimes we forget and the kids never realize they are just people too.
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