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janelle
08-16-2004, 10:45 PM
This one disturbed me so much. Most of us take better care of our pets than this mother is taking care of her daughter.
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A mother who allows her sixth-grade daughter to drink alcohol and smoke cigarettes turns to Dr. Phil when she finds out that her daughter is also smoking pot and having oral sex with an 18-year-old. Dr. Phil offers this advice:


Children need boundaries and rules to learn right from wrong.
"You don't allow children to make adult decisions," says Dr. Phil. "If you allow a sixth grader to smoke and drink, what do you think she will be doing in the seventh grade, the eighth grade, and the ninth grade? You're allowing a 13-year-old to make decisions that her mother should be making." Accept responsibility and learn to say no. Take some parenting classes if you have to, and learn how to get involved and set boundaries.


Don't be concerned with being the "cool mom."
That's just feeding your ego. If you find your child's friends spending a lot of time at your house because of the lax rules, Dr. Phil says, "Kick these toxic influences on your daughter out of your house. This isn't a commune, it's your home, where you should be providing a safe and protected environment for your daughter." It's your job to be a parent, not a friend. "You said, 'I don't want her to hate me.' Let me promise you, she is going to hate you. She is going to hate you when she's 15 and she's got a kid strapped to each leg, or has some type of sexually transmitted disease. She is going to look at you some day and say, 'Why didn't you make me do right? Why were you so insecure that you had to run this popularity contest as a mother to be the cool mom so that fed your ego instead of having the guts to step up and do right by me as a child?'"


It's not only unacceptable for a sixth grader to be dating an 18-year-old, it's also illegal.
"You need to run that 18-year-old boyfriend of hers off, and I'd call the cops on him," says Dr. Phil. "I'm fairly certain that's statutory rape. And you're contributing to the delinquency of a minor by allowing it to go on ... She's going to wind up pregnant in a fast hurry if you don't stop this. You may not know much about parenting, but you're going to get a lot of practice at it because you're going to be raising your grandchildren."


Recognize that your child might be in need of drug rehab.
"This child is out of control. She needs to be in drug rehab right now," Dr. Phil tells Ann. "I can tell you that this child is addicted to alcohol and drugs, in my opinion. She needs treatment."


Get involved. It is your responsibility as a parent to know what is going on in your child's life.
You need to know what music she's listening to, who she's hanging out with, what television shows she's watching, what website she's going to ... "If this means you have to be joined at the hip for a period of time, do it. Plug in. If you ask her what she's doing and she says, 'Nothing,' and slams the bedroom door, you need to open that door," advises Dr. Phil.

The rest of the show.
http://www.drphil.com/show/show.jhtml?contentId=2121_parenting.xml

janelle
08-16-2004, 10:51 PM
This woman could also be arrested for contributing to the delinquency of a minor by supplying alcohol to minors if the parents of the friends wanted to get involved. Plenty of people have gotten into trouble for doing just that.

SouthOSane
08-16-2004, 11:24 PM
*looks for a soapbox*

I am not my child's friend, I'm mom, no matter what I do in life at some point they're going to hate me, even when I'm right, probably more when I'm right and they KNOW it. In 8th grade I had a great teacher he'd talk about values and his family (even tho he wasn't supposed to do the values thing), he'd talk about how sometimes punishing his children ment punishing himself. As an adult I can see that, I punish myself too.

There's this "lady" (using the word loosely) who comes in to my work, she's dating the kitchen manager, she has a 14y/o son. She shows up one day w/ her 14y/o, two of his friends, she sits at the bar & drinks & drinks..son seems "off", she then tells me he showed up at the house DRUNK, so his punishment was to come with her to hang out with his friends & play pool while she gets drunk..tells me she told him he wasn't ruining her plans to go out..nice :rolleyes: have to be nice because this is a manager's girlfriend.. :rolleyes: several times she's said to me she can't understand why he does the things he does..

janelle
08-16-2004, 11:27 PM
Dr. Phil is getting the mother some parenting classes in her area. He never leaves the people without back-up help.

Her excuse for allowing her daughter to get drunk with her friends in her home is that she would be doing it anyway somewhere she won't know about. She also lets the eighteen year old to sleep over in her daughter's bed. Says she would do it anyway somewhere else. So she makes it easy for her daughter to do anything and everything so she won't run away and not like her.

Azriel_LittleHawk
08-17-2004, 02:11 AM
i don't normaly watch Dr.phil..mainly cause i think he's an arrogant git..but..he occasionaly comnes up with a good idea..

i am soooo glad i missed that show..you choose to have a child, that means you choose the responsibility of raising them..WITH RULES!!! WTF!!
Goddess..i am outa here now..cause i just want to go off...soo very badly..

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:eek:

lpelham
08-17-2004, 07:25 AM
I have a couple of friends who raise their kids as "friends." It's just wrong. I want my baby to know I love him and he can come to me with anything, but he also needs to know if he acts up, Momma can and will put the smack upon him :-)

I think children appreciate discipline and rules. They may not the exact moment you establish the rules, but you know later on in life, you always appreciate your parents telling you "No" to something stupid you wanted to do. That is why there are parents and children - if they were meant to do whatever they wanted, God would have made babies coordinated enough to be able to get jobs and move out on their own at birth :-)

Libby

Dolly<3
08-17-2004, 10:18 AM
I have a sister like that. Breaks my heart. :( :mad:

1tiredmom
08-17-2004, 11:14 AM
i've been missing dr phil stuck on court tv-but i have never considered myself to be a friend to either one of my two kids-when they can support and live their owns lives and have kids of their own, then maybe i can be friendly with them-i told them i will always will be there for them-if they just want to vent and me listen fine tell me so if you want my opinion you will get it
in fact me & dd had a falling out last week where she told me she didn't like me and things she wanted to tell me-i just told her at that moment i felt the same way and maybe it would be best to go to our rooms till we cooled off-(i burned a cd for a friend and i was doing something for her so when it completed i asked her to go in the truck to see if it played and she told me when she got time she would-and i was in the kitchen getting her dinner ready so she could go off -guess who finished the dinner preparation and spent quality time with their mom that night---flame me if you want

schsa
08-17-2004, 12:41 PM
You have to give children structure and rules to live by. This is how our society functions. Without rules and limitations we would running around in complete chaos. Structure gives a child those limitations that are acceptable by society. When a parent doesn't provide that structure then you have children running the house and doing as they please. And when you turn 30 you are in jail because no one told you that you couldn't do as you please.

Children need structure, goals and limitations. A child is not an adult and should not be allowed to make the same decisions as adults do. When as an adult you let your child make those decisions you are basically abandoning your job, to set an example of how to live a good life for your children.

I feel sorry for her children. She has basically said, do what you want. And now she is going to try and change this and take control back? She is going to loose. Because she has not set up boundaries. And her kids know it. Rebellion is going to take place.

Unicornmom77
08-17-2004, 04:55 PM
I didnt see this show, but I believe A LOT of parents take this approach latley!!!!

I cannot begin to express how I feel about parenting these days!!

I am old fashioned! I DISAPLINE my kids!!

mom2cvam
08-17-2004, 06:15 PM
I didnt see this show, but I believe A LOT of parents take this approach latley!!!!

I cannot begin to express how I feel about parenting these days!!

I am old fashioned! I DISAPLINE my kids!!


ITA!!!! My kids know that I am there for them but the also know that I am MOM. I love my kids but that does NOT mean that I am there friend. There are days that they sure don't like me much but in the end it will all be worth it. ;)

starduster31
08-17-2004, 08:42 PM
ITA with everyone, its a parents job to make sure their kids are loved, fed, clothed, housed, and DISCIPLINED !!!!!!!!!! thats what is wrong with kids these days, the parents think it is a popularity contest !!!!! well, it aint. my kids know that if they dont do right, ill give them what for. if the government and cps would let parents do their job, kids would be a lot better. my kid threatened me with cps when she was in kindergarten, and i dialed the phone and told her, go ahead, tell them what a bad mommy i am. she started crying and never did that crap again. kids have got to have rules, that they know they have to follow. im like az.............

AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!