Mary K. Letourneau what was the point?

[YNKYH8R]

I've been wtching this whole event of her release from prison unfold on national television. And I have to ask, what was the point? :confused:

She spent seven years in prison,only to be released and into the arms of her former lover. I don't get it. :confused:

If she had been a he, he would have gone away for a lot longer. Plus the sentence would have been harsher. :mad:

Justice? By the legal standard yes, but what was the whole point of putting her behind bars for seven years if they are allowed to continue their relationship now like nothing ever happend? :confused:

I am wrong or was this whole thing a waste of time? :confused:

And of course the whole Kobe Bryant thing is going to the dogs. Have you ever seen so many collapseses in the justice system in one month? :confused:

[Lora_1994]

I totally agree with you. I believe it was a waste of taxpayers money to have her in prison for that amount of time only to go right back to him.

I havent even been following the Kobe Bryant thing. I did at first, and I know she's suing for something else now, but its just an insane case, so I dont bother with it.

[Willow]

Yeah it does seem a waste of time but now that Vili is 21 I don't think there is anyway of stopping them from being together. I guess in the future she might think twice about having sex with someone who is underage if things don't work out with Vili.

[Lora_1994]

Lord, I hope she'd think twice about it. If she didnt maybe the next time she should just be comitted to a mental institution..lol

[Njean31]

she's just a freak and "they" won't last long, he's geriatric according to her standards. i just hope they don't have any more children, they should have sterlized her :mad: i haven't been watching it, but she should be trying to connect with her other children (well, maybe not if one is a boy, he might be an adolescent).

[YNKYH8R]

I really don't see her as going after another underage kid. She did stick with the same guy after all, and they claimed they were in love. :rolleyes:

As for Kobe, the trial is going to be put on hold indefinately, and the accuser is considering suing the Eagle county courts for disbursing private information.

Well there is always the civil suit where you can the big bucks. :D

Jacko doesn't go to court till next January, while he has just had his fourth kid. :eek:

And let's not foget the Scott Peterson lied to his mistress, there is a news flash. :eek:

[lpelham]

I don't know what the point was. I don't know that I agree with if it was a guy, he would have gone away longer, but now the boy is a consenting adult. The law cannot legally keep them from seeing each other I don't think because the day she got out, he had his lawyers petition to have the restraining order or whatever removed. From what I have read, unless he petitioned to have it removed, she was to never see him again. Like that worked well the first two times they told her!

It's just strange... I feel sorry for him. I think he has had some minor trouble with the law, doesn't have a job and didn't graduate from high school. Kinda makes you wonder what he would have turned out like if she hadn't come into his life.

Libby

[YNKYH8R]

Maybe they, the lawmakers, should change the punishment so that it is longer.
If the circumstances were different I would imagine an older male would have gotten a harsher punishment, especially if it was not consentual. The younger boy never pressed charges, the state did.

In the end, the whole thing feels like a slap on the wrist.

[Freebeemom]

You know, I honestly could care less. Sure, I don't agree with the situation....but who is to say what their love should and should not be? I know several couples who are married to people much younger than themselves and the relationship is just fine! I know a 70 yr old. that was married to a 50 yr. old. Neither are 'Geriatric", neither are dead weight old people either...and neither are drop dead beautiful either...just normal-every day people, and they compliement eachother very well.

Again, I don't fully agree with this suation, but in a decade, who's to say that they still won't be happy together? It just isn't for me to judge what love is and is not.....In a way, I feel like it is a good thing that they are back together. They may be proving everyone else wrong by staying together. Who knows....definately not me!

[YankeeMary]

Ok I guess I am the only one who has no clue as to whom she or what she has done...anyone gotta a link, so I can play catch up?

[mommyx2]

The point WAS she broke the law! They didn't put her in prison because she had sexual relations, they put her in because she had sexual relations with a MINOR! He is not a minor now, and she has done her time. I don't see where the fact that they are together now has anything to do with her crime, lol. For the record, I think she is SICK!! So don't mistake what I am saying, I am not defending her or what she did.

[janelle]

YankeeMary just do a search on the web. I even think she even has a web site someone put up. She may not have anthing to do with the web site but it's about he whole case.

[laughsalot]

I really dont know what to think about this whole case. She did break the law though and she did her time. In choosing to be with Villi she lost everything~even her own kids, 7 years of her life, her career. All I can say is I wonder what it must be to love that intensly that you would just throw all caution and sense to the wind? Thank God I dont have to walk in her shoes.

[YNKYH8R]

I find it sick too. An older lady and a12 year old. Get real!

But she's not going to have to worry about a job, there are the book deals, movies, etc. In the end I just sit back and laugh.

I always felt that the general consecious, after her trial and sentencing, was 'Ha Ha, she got put away, we saved the kid, and they'll never see each other agian.' and that is not what happened. Do the ends justify the means? Was it worth sending her to jail for seven years just to have them end up together anyway? I really don't know. If it was actual rape, and the boy was in danger, then yes all the way.

I'm five years older than my wife, my dad was 20 years older than my mom, my grandfather 10 years older then his wife.

This whole event is a situation with no answer.

[lynde]

unreal unbelieveable discusting freak--what the h@ll is wrong with people???? After all this time this still blows my mind-shes one ill broad---I am 34 which i think thats how old she was when all his started--I cant imagine doing what she has done----INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

[Willow]

I guess I have a different perspective because I don't feel that she was sent to jail mainly to keep her away from Vili. She was sent to jail because she had sex with someone who was underage. I don't believe for a minute that she actually raped him. It was consentual sex but because he was only 13 it was agaisnt the law. I think there is a difference if you're 25 and dating someone who is 40 but when you're 13 and dating someone who is 25 or 30 yeah that is sick.

[YNKYH8R]

Where are :confused: the parents in all this?

[Willow]

Where are :confused: the parents in all this?


I have no idea but he is 21 now so I don't think they would be able to stop him from being with her if that's what he wants. Vili said that he has always loved Mary Kay and if his parents did try to persuade him from being with her it obviously hasn't worked.

[hotwire]

I guess I have a different perspective because I don't feel that she was sent to jail mainly to keep her away from Vili. She was sent to jail because she had sex with someone who was underage. I don't believe for a minute that she actually raped him. It was consentual sex but because he was only 13 it was agaisnt the law. I think there is a difference if you're 25 and dating someone who is 40 but when you're 13 and dating someone who is 25 or 30 yeah that is sick.


totally agree. she should have been put in a mental hospital.

Kobe......could care less. he should have his b*lls cut off just because he cheated.

Micheal Jackson.......where are these freaks coming from that want to have his baby? these woman need their heads examined.

Scott Peterson....see Kobe comment.........also.....if its proved he killed her and his son..(beyond a doubt)..he shoud get the death penalty. thats JMO....please dont slam me and start a debate on the death penalty issue.

[hotwire]

Where are :confused: the parents in all this?

still living in washington (state) taking care of their 2 kids. i think they are the ones who have legal custody. i feel sorry for the kids.....especially the ones she had with her husband.

[YNKYH8R]

Michael is such a sad case, he is such a great musician, he fell so far so fast. No one would think of making jokes about him back in '82.

Peterson? I really don't know if he's guilty?

Kobe? That one could have ended, but now it never will. Total miscarrage of justice.

Death penalty, no debate. ;)

In five years no one will even remember the Letourneau case.

[justme23]

If I remember the news correctly over the years, Vilis mother is divorced and raising their 2 children along w/ her own.

You know, back when this all started... she broke the law and the state did what they were supposed to do... but they are both legal adults now and I could really care less what they do. I don't even think she's a threat, since she obviously still wants to be w/ Vili... would I want her around my 12 year old son... no probably not... but I think if she were an 'at risk' pedophile that she wouldn't want Vili back either cause she'd be too busy trying to find her next victim.

As far as Kobe is concerned... there's way too much information about this in various places (which no one knows is true or not) for me to know whether or not he raped this girl... but if the info is true, then I don't think he's guilty of anything more than being a cheat and I really wish they'd find something else to talk about on the news.

[joey74]

Some man who became a friend of her's while she was in prison was on 20/20 (or some show like it) and said that once she was sent back to prison the second time, she started "working" there. Helping women get their educations and file their appeals. And from what he said, she saw both of her children once a month!

Then they interviewed the boy and asked if he was going to pursue a relationship with her when she was released. He said "I don't know, I guess if she wants to" !!
I'm not trying to sound mean, but he sounded really uneducated; and quite frankly "lost". He gave the impression he didn't know what was to become of him, like he was waiting for her to determine what he should do next. ((looked like a little backlash from their earlier days - like she's the "adult" and she makes the decisions ))!!
The whole situation is sad and sick if you ask me...

[YankeeMary]

I got a people magazine in the mail yesterday and there is a storyin there about this...wow, I remember(finally) about this. As a mother of a 14 and 11 year old son, all I can say she better thank God she wasn't messing with one of my boys..grrr...she wouldn't have gone to prison, thats for sure. Now that she is out and he is an adult, I still think its sick, but what can be done. You'd think she would try to save a bit of dignity and stay away from him, she has messed up enough lives as it is.

[mom4angels]

The point WAS she broke the law! They didn't put her in prison because she had sexual relations, they put her in because she had sexual relations with a MINOR! He is not a minor now, and she has done her time. I don't see where the fact that they are together now has anything to do with her crime, lol. For the record, I think she is SICK!! So don't mistake what I am saying, I am not defending her or what she did.


I agree 100% The boy was a thirteen little boy. She is sick. That is called child molestation in my book. It kept her a-- away from him until he was of legal age. She proved that she wasn't going to stay away from him by getting pregnant the second time. I think she needs a shrink.

[thedragonlady]

Adam, I'm curious. You said you assumed a man would get a longer sentence. I wonder why you feel that way. It's in the news quite often about men convicted of rape, even on children, getting only three or four years. Women protest about that frequently. I remember that when she was sent to prison our local paper had a story about it. They had "on the street" interviews with a number of people, both male and female. Almost all of them, including the men, made comments about how she would have gotten less time if she were male. According to the reporter, the women were mad and some felt she should have been sent away for life and some felt she should have the sentence a man would get. The men were divided between sending her away for life and snickering because she got a longer sentence than most (not all) men would get.

[janelle]

Maybe her being pregnant had something to do with the length of sentence. If a man did this to a girl then the girl would be the one pregnant not him.
She got pregnant twice by the boy and would't leave him alone although she was ordered to. Maybe it was consensual sex but what 12 year old boy can give consent like that. She was the adult and more in control.

I saw the interview with him. He seemed pretty messed up. He has had lots of problems since it happened with the noteriety and dating girls his own age. He said he doesn't know what he wants. I think she really messed with his head. He won't know what he wants for quite awhile. He needs to grow up but maybe he never will even though he has two children already.

She is pretty sick from my point of view and has wrecked havoc on so many lives. Her first family and now her second.

[YNKYH8R]

[QUOTE=dragonlady41]Adam, I'm curious. You said you assumed a man would get a longer sentence. [QUOTE]

I was thinking along the lines of if she was a male teacher, seducing 8th graders.

My wife told me that in reading my thread it sounded like I was argueing for her. I am not. Just to make myself clear. :)

I wanted her to go away for longer. This type of behavior is damaging to society, just as damaging as murder, it effects everyone.

I wish more people felt this way, so we could keep sexual predators off the streets longer. When I say what is the point, I mean to say 'why bother'. If they are going to take the time to prosocute her, why even consider parrol?

[thedragonlady]

I wanted her to go away for longer. This type of behavior is damaging to society, just as damaging as murder, it effects everyone.

I wish more people felt this way, so we could keep sexual predators off the streets longer. When I say what is the point, I mean to say 'why bother'. If they are going to take the time to prosocute her, why even consider parrol?


I completely agree! You said it perfectly!

[Kelsey1224]

unreal unbelieveable discusting freak--what the h@ll is wrong with people???? After all this time this still blows my mind-shes one ill broad---I am 34 which i think thats how old she was when all his started--I cant imagine doing what she has done----INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

Don't sugarcoat it Lynde...tell us how you really feel.

[llbriteyes]

Fact: Mary Kay is/was a pedophile. That's what its called when someone molests children. No sugar coating.

Fact: Mary Kay is bipolar. This is not an excuse. She was unmedicated at the time. This is ONLY an explanation.

Fact: Nobody REALLY knows if a man would get the same sentence. Every case is different. Every case has different variables.

That said... IN MY OPINION - When she was arrested and put into prison, it created a very romantic scenario for them both. It was a case of "I want you, but they're trying to keep us apart." It created for them a "we'll be together and DAMN the consequences." (whether they really wanted that or not)

So, again, IN MY OPINION - They *needed* to be together once she got out of prison "to show EVERYone." To back down would be to lose face.

Again... IN MY OPINION - They won't last. I personally can't see them lasting more than a year. Even though they have kids together. She broke down so many boundaries when she did what she did. It screws with a person's head in so many ways.

I think that she needs to find the right psychiatrist, and so does he. I think he needs intensive therapy to grasp what she did to him, and that she needs desparately to find the right meds.

Linda

[Jolie Rouge]

Letourneau, Ex-Pupil to Wed After Prison

SEATTLE (AP) - Mary Kay Letourneau plans to marry the former sixth-grade pupil with whom she had two children, months after her release from prison for raping him, according to an online bridal registry.

Letourneau, 43, and Vili Fualaau, 22, set a wedding date of April 16, according to their registry at a department store. Letourneau served 7 1/2 years on a 1997 conviction for raping Fualaau, who has said in the past that he hoped to wed his former teacher.

``It's been long overdue,'' Noel Soriano, a friend of the couple, told the Seattle Post-Intelligencer in a story published Monday. ``It's going to be fabulous, seeing them get hitched finally.''

A lawyer for Fualaau and a friend of Letourneau did not immediately return calls Monday seeking further comment.


Letourneau was a 34-year-old married mother of four when she began a sexual relationship with her then-12-year-old elementary school student in 1996. She was pregnant with Fualaau's first child when she was arrested in 1997 and ordered to serve a six-month sentence for second-degree child rape.


One month after she was released, Letourneau was caught having sex with Fualaau in her car. She pleaded guilty in 1997 to two charges of child rape, and gave birth to the couple's second daughter while serving her 7 1/2-year sentence. Fualaau's mother is raising their two daughters, aged 6 and 7.


Shortly after Letourneau was released from prison last August, the pair successfully petitioned a judge to lift a no-contact order that had barred them from seeing each other.


Soriano said Fualaau proposed last fall, but the couple has been trying to keep wedding details a secret. Details are yet to be completed, but plans call for their daughters to be flower girls, he said. ``They have gone through a lot,'' Soriano said. ``That they lasted this long proves how strong their love is.''



02/14/05 11:35


http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/ns/news/story.jsp?idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20050214%2F1135917893.htm&sc=1110

[catssass]

You have to figure they almost HAD to get married, otherwise everything they did would have been for nothing and meant nothing, this way they can say "see we really were soul mates",it will validate all they went through, whether it lasts, who knows....

[twinkiesmom]

You know, I honestly could care less.
Yeah, same here. And doo doo occurs and we move on . . . .

[YNKYH8R]

I am shocked......

that this thread came back around. LOL!