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jaimethepooh
08-12-2004, 10:32 AM
http://www.thestate.com/mld/state/news/opinion/9378079.htm

By JAMES J. KILPATRICK

UNIVERSAL PRESS SYNDICATE


If you ask politely, Darla Kaye Wynne will acknowledge that she is indeed a Wiccan, which is to say, a Witch — but a Witch in the same uppercase way that Muslims are Islamic and Baptists are Christians. Her religious beliefs are rooted in pagan rites that antedate Christianity by a thousand years. Sad to say, some good Christians in Chester County have treated her in a most un-Christian way.

Perhaps her troubles will ease now that the 4th U.S. Circuit has ruled in her favor. Then again, maybe not. A huge part of the history of religion is a history of bigotry, zealotry and gross intolerance of nonbelievers. South Carolinians are probably no better and no worse than humankind everywhere.

Wynne’s story is not especially novel, and the 4th Circuit’s opinion of July 22 is not exactly a landmark in the field of First Amendment jurisprudence. Nonetheless, the case merits a few minutes of your time.

The story begins in 1997, when Wynne moved from the cold climes of Alaska to the warmer fields of South Carolina. She was single, aged 33. She found employment as a home-care aide and driver for Alzheimer’s patients. With her parrot, her Yorkshire terrier and two pet raccoons, she settled in Great Falls (pop. 2,194), some 40 miles north of Columbia. Largely out of curiosity, she began attending monthly meetings of the town council. Usually fewer than a dozen citizens showed up.

The meetings always opened with prayer. Everyone would stand and bow his head. Typically, one of the councilmen would ask “our heavenly Father” to guide them to beneficial decisions. “In the name of Jesus Christ, we pray. Amen.”

Wynne tried to show respect, but she grew increasingly uncomfortable. She asked Mayor Henry Clayton Starnes for a nonsectarian invocation. He refused. She suggested a rotation of local ministers. No way.

Once she stayed outside the council’s meeting room until the prayer ended. She was told she had waived her scheduled opportunity to speak. A councilman asked for a public hearing on her protests and her proposed alternatives. A hundred townspeople turned out to support the status quo. Several Christian ministers filed statements defending the council’s policy. Cries were heard of “Hallelujah!” The mayor told Wynne: “This is the way we’ve always done things, and we’re not going to change.”

Finally she brought suit in U.S. District Court, not for money damages, but for an injunction against patently sectarian invocations. Backed by the American Jewish Congress and the American Civil Liberties Union, she won. The town appealed to the 4th Circuit. She won again. Circuit Judge Diana Gribbon Motz spoke for a three-judge panel in ruling that the council’s invocations clearly advanced one faith in preference to others.

Judge Motz distinguished Wynne’s case from the often-cited case of Marsh v. Chambers. In that case, the Supreme Court in 1983 narrowly approved prayers to open sessions of the state legislature in Nebraska. She said: “The invocations at issue here, which specifically call upon Jesus Christ, are simply not constitutionally acceptable legislative prayer like that in Marsh.” As part of the council’s public business, it may not ritually seek guidance “from a deity in whose divinity only those of one faith believe.”

The Great Falls Council, Motz wrote, remains free to engage in nonsectarian invocations prior to its meetings. “The opportunity to do so may provide a source of strength to believers, and a time of quiet reflection for all. This opportunity does not, however, provide the town council, or any other legislative body, license to advance its own religious views in preference to all others, as the town council did here.”

This strikes me as a sound exposition of Establishment Clause jurisprudence. The Constitution says that Congress (and by extension, the states) shall make “no law” respecting an establishment of religion, but “no law” hasn’t meant literally “no law” since the day the ink dried on the founders’ labor. It is a passing irony that the Supreme Court itself begins its session by asking God to save “the United States and this honorable court.” The town council of Great Falls knows where to look for both divine and legal guidance.

While Great Falls chews on its defeat, the plaintiff Wynne seeks surcease. Her home has been vandalized nine times. Hoodlums have killed her cat and hanged its gutted body. Someone put sand in the gas tank of her truck. Townspeople have ostracized her. Even so, she comes across over the telephone as the most cheerful Witch I ever met. My acquaintance is limited, to be sure, but in this one I stand on the lady’s side.

Write to Mr. Kilpatrick by e-mail to [email protected].

Crick
08-12-2004, 11:57 AM
Our local paper had an article about the ruling. Most city councils, public forums, and leaders were quoted as saying they WOULD NOT ADHERE to the ruling. Even when it was brought to their attention that they were opening themselves up to lawsuits, the leaders remained firm in their reasoning that they could conduct opening prayers in any manner they choose. Makes me wonder how many lawsuits will have to be brought and $$$ paid before the officials realize that not everyone has the same beliefs and should not be subjected to their religious convictions. The mayor and council of Myrtle Beach (where I live and vote) have said they will continue with an opening prayer even though citizens of other beliefs have asked for a rotation of the opening "prayer." Just a matter of time before they get hit with a lawsuit.

Love the Christian values of the people who attacked this woman's property. Certainly not what I was taught.

Thanks for reminding me about this as I will be curious to follow the developments of this case and others.

jaimethepooh
08-12-2004, 12:05 PM
yw

http://www.witchvox.com/wren/wn_detail.html?id=10713
i found the article here and this is what one person posted about her situation. i don't know if its all true but this whole thing is just sad.


Her conflict with the council started when she went to complain about some drug dealers dealing on a corner close to her house and folks focused on Wiccan bumper stickers on her car instead. The prayers she was quietly bowing her head for in the beginning became prostelization tools in which they prayers for salvation clearly and specifically directed at her personally, which was why they became intolerable for her. She's recieved death threats and threats have been made to burn her out.

She was refused permits to build shelter for her horses, and she finally had to get rid of them. Her property has apparently deteriorated because of the vandalisim it has been subjected to and the council has now declared it a public nusiance and asked the county to take action on it...some fear was expressed that they may have her home demolished - although I can't see how even they can get away with that one.

She says the chief of police told her he's been told to ignore her if she calls in, so she can expect no police protection or investigation into harassment towards her or damage to her property. He also told her that if she reported he said that he'd deny it. The court case addresses the broad constitutional issues.

Willow
08-12-2004, 12:41 PM
That is sad. :(

mom2cvam
08-12-2004, 01:15 PM
That is just totally wrong and so sad! :( She deserves to be treated a whole heck of alot better then she has been. She will probably be chased out of her own home because of the fears of others. And then people wonder why alot of wiccans chose to hide it from others. I can only imagine what would happen in my own little town if it got out that I was. I don't hide it but I don't go out of my way to make it public knowledge. I'm not ashamed but I am afraid of what would happen to my children in school. I want to protect them from idiots like this poor woman has run into. I hope that she can find some peace. I'm a strong believer in Karma and I know that these people will eventually get back what they give out. :mad:

fatesfaery
08-12-2004, 08:45 PM
I don't think I've ever been more ashamed to say I grew up and lived most of my life in South Carolina. Beautiful places, Smiling faces indeed.

jamrsc
08-13-2004, 05:15 AM
This is going on in my own backyard. I don't know where all other articles are getting there info, but as far as I know it is inaccurate. From what I know, she specifically went to the town meetings and stirred up trouble with the Christians praying in Jesus's name.

I'm not trying to start an argument or take sides, but there are always 2 sides to every story.

Also, like someone else said, no one is planning on following the ruling.

jaimethepooh
08-13-2004, 09:08 AM
so when someone asks for fair treatment and equal rights its considered causing trouble :confused:

jamrsc
08-15-2004, 10:22 AM
I need to apoligize. I just read today in our local paper more about what has been going in with this lady and it is not right at all. People, no matter what their beliefs, do not need to be threatened or have their personal pets or property destroyed.

So, jaimethepooh, I apoligized to you. Please forgive.

jaimethepooh
08-16-2004, 05:47 PM
I need to apoligize. I just read today in our local paper more about what has been going in with this lady and it is not right at all. People, no matter what their beliefs, do not need to be threatened or have their personal pets or property destroyed.

So, jaimethepooh, I apoligized to you. Please forgive.


there's nothing to forgive
i'm just glad you don't think that way :D

jaimethepooh
08-17-2004, 09:17 AM
this is so sick
i'm not going to say what i really want to i could get myself banned

http://www.heraldonline.com/local/story/3748843p-3355792c.html
Parrot's death latest threat to woman in prayer case

By Denyse Clark The Herald
(Published August 17‚ 2004)

GREAT FALLS -- About a dozen pagans gathered at Town Hall on Monday to show support for Great Falls resident Darla Wynne. Last week, Wynne returned home from dinner with a friend and discovered one of her parrots had been beheaded and his heart cut out, she said.
A note attached to the back of Little One, Wynne's 8-year-old African gray parrot, said, "You're next!"

"I was frantic looking for his little head, and later I did find his heart," Wynne said tearfully. "They want me to leave this town. I feel so responsible for this. I shouldn't have gone out to dinner."

Great Falls Police Chief Mike Revels confirmed the threatening message to Wynne and said an investigation continues. Police found no evidence of a burglary and were unable to collect fingerprints, Revels said.

"Forensic evidence on the note was destroyed and there was no other physical evidence found," Revels said. "The case is ongoing."

Wynne, a Wiccan high priestess, filed a lawsuit in 2001 against Great Falls for invoking the name of Jesus Christ in council prayers. Federal courts ruled in favor of Wynne, saying the prayers were unconstitutional. Town officials, who have the support of the state attorney general, have appealed the case.

Last week's incident was one of a string of break-ins at Wynne's home. Great Falls police have responded to at least 10 calls of reported vandalism at her residence in the past year or so, Revels said.

"She's had a lot of problems," Revels said. "But we haven't been able to link anybody to any of the incidents."

Many of the town's 2,200 residents regard Wynne as a witch and disapprove of her pagan faith, she said. The vandalism has ranged from destruction of her cars to several of her animals being poisoned, Wynne said.

"No one will say anything," Wynne said. "They think they're protecting their own."

Katie Glenn of Asheville, N.C., said she was in Great Falls on Monday to support Darla and "let everyone know we're human."

"I find it deplorable to see other people, who come in the name of Christianity, judge others so harshly," Glenn said.

Wynne said she has endured numerous verbal and written threats. She received by mail a booklet, "Thou Shalt not Suffer a Witch to Live," and said a man yelled at her, "Witch, you're going down."

Twice last week before her bird was killed, Wynne said she received threats in the mail.

During Monday's Town Council meeting, about a half-dozen supporters gathered with Wynne outside Town Hall. Several more attended the meeting inside. Wynne's friends posted an e-mail about the beheading of her bird and people from both Carolinas, Texas and Detroit came to offer support.

Revels and several uniformed officers attended the meeting to keep everyone safe, the chief said.

Wynne's friend Donna Hudson of Columbia said Wynne has been persecuted by town officials.

"I believe all pagans, basically all Americans, should be concerned about the situation that has developed here," Hudson said. "The very community that should be supporting her is violating her rights."

Mayor H.C. "Speedy" Starnes wouldn't comment directly on the incident, saying only he believed the town still has a strong case.

Wynne said she will continue her court battle and won't leave town. She said she is saddened that her remaining parrot, Baby, is lonely for his companion.

"Birds mimic what they hear," Wynne said. "Baby cries because he's heard me crying and he's lonely for his friend, Little One."

Denyse Clark • 329-4069

[email protected]

Willow
08-17-2004, 09:25 AM
That is horrible. :mad: That poor bird. What makes people do these things. Why can't people just realilze that there are other religions and leave people alone.

mom2cvam
08-17-2004, 09:36 AM
That is just plain sick!! That poor bird and poor woman! :( I doubt if she will ever get justice in that town with the way things have been for her. It seems to me like these people are just using christianity as an excuse to hate! :mad: I'm not saying everyone in that town, but the ones who refuse to leave her live her life. She has different religious beliefs, so what? She should not have to endure pain and misery because of it! I can not even begin to imagine the pain and suffering she must be feeling because of the ignorance and hatred of the ones tormenting her. :( I better shut up now because if I keep going I will get myself a little vacation from posting here.

Njean31
08-17-2004, 09:40 AM
it's probably a bunch of juvenile deliquents who think she is an easy target with all of the negative publicity around her, doing those horrible things to her, or a few adult morons. i would seriously hope and doubt it's not a conspiracy of the Christians in town trying to drive the "witch out"...unless the Christians in that town are lead by a freak such as David Koresh or Jim Jones. No Christian I know would do such horrific acts. if i were her, i would get a BIG fence, some hidden cameras placed strategically around my place, a gun, and install an alarm because it don't look like the law enforcement is in a big hurry to protect her.

brumzoo
08-17-2004, 09:43 AM
Boy, they sure aren't acting like Christians. That is not what I was taught. Have they forgotten the Golden Rule: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you? I cannot imagine the pain and suffering this woman is going through because of the small-mindedness of these townpeople. I feel so sorry for her pets that have been tortured and murdered. :( I understand that she wants to hold her ground, but what these people are doing to her is too much. She needs to move to a city that will be more accepting of her and her religion. My husband and I were both outraged after reading this article in the paper. :mad: :mad:

jamrsc
08-17-2004, 09:59 AM
I can assure you all that these people are a bunch of "rednecks". This town is so pathetically small, I didn't even know they had a police force!! There has been a lot of other violence in this town with the blacks & whites too.

Yes, it is terrible that someone would do that to someones pet. And, no, they are not acting like Christians and I seriously doubt they are true born again Christians.

ahippiechic
08-22-2004, 09:46 AM
I think it's pathetic that things like this can still go on. Kinda sounds like the town I grew up in, in TN. :(

And I hope she doesn't move away. She has the RIGHT to live and worship as she chooses. She shouldn't have to uproot herself because of a small town full of narrowminded people.

jaimethepooh
11-16-2004, 10:29 AM
http://www.heraldonline.com/local/story/4184335p-3965924c.html

Town to fight prayer ruling
Great Falls to appeal case involving Wiccan before U.S. Supreme Court

By Denyse Clark The Herald
GREAT FALLS -- Great Falls will appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court in its fight against a woman who opposes official prayers to Jesus Christ at Town Council meetings.
Town Attorney Brian Gibbons received the council's permission in a 6-1 vote Monday to appeal its case against Darla Wynne to the highest court in the land.

Councilman Earl Taylor cast the dissenting vote.

Wynne, a Great Falls resident and Wiccan high priestess, sued the town of about 2,200 residents in 2001 for using the name of Jesus Christ in prayers said before council meetings.

A federal court ruling in August 2003 banned reference to a specific deity in prayers at the town's meetings, prompting Great Falls to fight back. But a three-judge appellate panel ruled against the town in July.

Another panel of the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals handed down a unanimous decision earlier this month, ruling that the full court will not hear the town's appeal.

'I hope they feel it's worth it'

When the council announced its decision Monday, Wynne let out a sigh and expressed her disappointment.

"I hope they feel it's worth it," Wynne said.

Wynne's attorney Herbert Buhl III of Columbia has filed a request for about $38,000 to repay Wynne's legal fees, she said. The Supreme Court costs will add an additional $25,000, Wynne said.

"I'm a taxpayer, too," Wynne said. "When it's all over, this is going to cost the town about $65,000."

Gibbons, appointed as the council's official spokesperson by Mayor H.C. "Speedy" Starnes, said the case so far has not cost the town anything and he doesn't anticipate any cost to the town. The town's insurance reimburses the town up to $15,000 per year for legal costs, Gibbons said. The cost has not exceeded that amount in a single year, he said.

"She (Wynne) said she didn't do this for money, didn't she?" Gibbons said. "We're responding to their request for legal fees, but we're asking the court for relief."

The town will file its case with the Supreme Court before its 90-day deadline expires Jan. 29, Gibbons said. Lawyer Andrew Lindemann of Columbia will represent the Town of Great Falls for free.

In the three years since the lawsuit was filed, it has caused a major rift between Wynne and area residents. It also has led to several incidents of physical violence directed at her, her animals and her property.

Great Falls police responded to at least 10 calls of reported vandalism at Wynne's residence in the past year, Great Falls Police Chief Mike Revels said.

Wicca is an Earth-based religion based upon the reconstruction of pre-Christian traditions originating in Ireland, Scotland and Wales. Wynne is high priestess of about 35 practicing Wiccas in Great Falls, Chester and Lancaster, she said.

Wynne spoke to the council briefly at the start of Monday's meeting and asked it to create a diversity committee to address racial, gender and religious issues facing the town.

"We have a community of Hindus, Greeks and lesbians in Great Falls, and we need to start dealing with the issues and prejudices and healing it," Wynne said. "If we continue to pretend these issues don't exist, they continue to grow, fester and feed our underground."

"It's time to get educated about our community and make it a better place to live," Wynne said.