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Jolie Rouge
03-16-2004, 02:31 PM
Received as an email -- can't get Snopes to open today ...

Any researchers in the house ?
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Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month (or will soon be) -- and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the federal government to "put away for our future," you may be interested in the following:


Q: Which party took Social Security from an independent fund and put it in the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the Democratic-controlled House and Senate.

Q: Which party put a tax on Social Security?

A: The Democratic party.

Q: Which party increased the tax on Social Security?

A: The Democratic Party with Al Gore casting the deciding vote.

Q: Which party decided to give money to immigrants? immigrants?
immigrants?

A: That's right, immigrants moved into this country and at 65 got SSI
(Social Security). The Democratic Party gave that to them although they never paid a dime into it.

Then, after doing all this, the Democrats turn around and tell you the Republicans want to take your Social Security. And the worst part about it is, people believe it!

This must be an issue in "04." Please! Keep it going.

( This information is interesting, but you don't hear much about in the Media)

A. Enron's chairman met with the president and vice president in the Oval Office.

B. Enron gave $420,000 to the president's party over three years.

C. It donated $100,000 to the president's inauguration festivities.

D. The Enron chairman stayed at the White House 11 times.

E. The corporation had access to the administration at its highest Levels and even enlisted the Commerce and State Departments to grease deals for it.

F. The taxpayer-supported Export-Import Bank subsidized Enron for more than $600 million in just one transaction. Scandalous!!

BUT...the president under whom all this happened WASN'T George W.Bush.

SURPRISE . It was W.J. (Bill) Clinton!!!!

Please pass this on so the whole Country will Know. The Media Won't!

cleaningla
03-16-2004, 02:45 PM
I can get into snopes just fine, it's totally bogus.....RONALD REAGAN put the tax on social security....Remember this when you vote evryone.

http://www.snopes.com/cgi-bin/news/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=000003


Q: Which party put a tax on Social Security?
A: The Democratic party.
FALSE

Actually, it was Ronald Reagan, a Republican, who signed a bill taxing
Social Security benefits.

http://www.ssa.gov/history/briefhistory3.html
"The 1983 Amendments

Jolie Rouge
03-16-2004, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by cleaningla
I can get into snopes just fine, it's totally bogus.....RONALD REAGAN put the tax on social security....Remember this when you vote evryone.

http://www.snopes.com/cgi-bin/news/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=000003


Q: Which party put a tax on Social Security?
A: The Democratic party.
FALSE

Actually, it was Ronald Reagan, a Republican, who signed a bill taxing
Social Security benefits.

http://www.ssa.gov/history/briefhistory3.html
"The 1983 Amendments


I was looking to clarify not start a war ... :rolleyes:

Kelsey1224
03-16-2004, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by Jolie Rouge
I was looking to clarify not start a war ... :rolleyes:

That's good Jolie, so I'm sure you will appreciate the following additional clarification: SSI is NOT Social Security. It is "Supplemental Security Income" which is a welfare based program. It is administered by the Social Security Department...but it does not draw from Social Security RETIREMENT funds.

(My hubby works for Social Security and he hates all these half-truths which get circulated and get people all fired up.)

Jolie Rouge
03-16-2004, 04:00 PM
Thanks, Kelsey ! I had missed the shift from S.S. to SSI

I usually ask about these types of emails here for several reasons :

If it gets debunked here, then when someone else gets one in their inbox they will hopefully recognise it as misinformation. I am now immediately suspcious if something/someone wants me to "forward to all my friends and family".


Sometimes my dinosaur of a computer will not open high traffic sites ( like snopes ) and I know this internet savvy group can usually help me out.