Jobs going oversea

[owlbcnu]

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For all who don't know what is going on in this country I am here to wake you up. Millions of technical, accounting, service desk jobs are being offshored to India and other countries. At the rate that Corporate America and yes our own Government are sending our jobs overseas there eventually will be no middle class America any longer.
President Bush has assured the India government that he will continue to send our jobs to their country. Corporate America is getting richer at our expense. A person here in the U.S. who makes $60,000 per year is equivalent to an India worker doing the same job for about $6.000 per year. On top of that these big corporations pay no taxes, while we the middle class are starting to lose our homes, our lifesavings our purpose in life. Now doesn't this get you MAD!!! If you would like to really do something about this devastating plan that our elected officials and Corporate conglomerates have in mind for us, lets stop talking and do something about it. I would love to see a MARCH on Washington D.C. demanding that our Government force all U.S. companies to send our jobs back here in our own country.
If you feel the way I feel you can also email me at: [email protected]
I hope to here from many of you, in strength we can doing something.

[Technologist]

Originally posted by owlbcnu
At the rate that Corporate America and yes our own Government are sending our jobs overseas there eventually will be no middle class America any longer.

President Bush has assured the India government that he will continue to send our jobs to their country.

On top of that these big corporations pay no taxes, while we the middle class are starting to lose our homes, our lifesavings our purpose in life.


ummm, could you send me links that prove those 3 statements:

1. our own Government are sending our jobs overseas...

2. President Bush has assured the India government that he will continue to send our jobs to their country.

3. these big corporations pay no taxes...

Thanks!

[owlbcnu]

If you would simply go to these two sites and check out all the links you will see the truth. Also if you could get a copy of the PBS tv show aired on Friday Aug. 29th 'Bill Moyers Journal' you will not only see and here the truth you as an American will get sick to your stomach.
The two sites are www.techsunite.org and www.allianceibm.org

[nanajoanie]

The textile and furniture companies in North Carolina are all going to Mexico and China because of the low wages. Now people are striking at Cone Mills in Greensboro, NC because they may have to take a pay cut. If they don't agree then I'm afraid they will loose their jobs as well. The little people make these companies bigger and the head ones make the money. The little people get nowhere. The last 2 mills I worked at are now closed and one went to Mexico. That's why I retired. So much for a cushy retirement.

[fjp999]

I just made a call to Staples Rebate and was really surprised to hear an Indian womans voice. It wouldnt have been so bad but the connection was terrible. When I asked her her name - as I always do on official calls - I couldnt understand a thing she was saying. I called Staples customer service and complained and was promised an E mail update on my problem but never did... I did get my rebate check really quickly - like ten days after my call to submit the rebate!

[cpbaby]

My job went to MExico two years ago. I found out last week that the factory they built in Mexico to replace the facotry I worked in here is closing to send all the work to Asia. I made $14.50 per hour(American money), the Mexicans made approx. $5.00 A DAY(American money) and the Asians are paid even less than that.

Tech, Im sorry but its true. They pay no taxes to the American government to be able to send the goods made in these other countries into our country. So anything made over the cost of materials and labor is PURE PROFIT. Also, most countries are so happy to get the factories, they waive most, if not all, local taxes and fees for doing business in that country.

[Dolly<3]

Originally posted by cpbaby
My job went to MExico two years ago. I found out last week that the factory they built in Mexico to replace the facotry I worked in here is closing to send all the work to Asia. I made $14.50 per hour(American money), the Mexicans made approx. $5.00 A DAY(American money) and the Asians are paid even less than that.

Wow. I guess those people are lucky to have jobs, but $5 a day? How can big companies sleep at night? They're going from $115 a day to $5 a day per person. Even if $5 a day was considered good over there (low cost of living and all that), you'd think they'd double it or something. I mean, b/c they are saving so much. Sad. They're taking advantage of these people.

[cpbaby]

I agree, but you are right, $5 IS considered WONDERFUL money over there. I went over for 2 weeks to help set the factory up when it first opened and the first thing we were told was to NOT discuss money with the workers. It just doesnt compare. Its like comparing apples to bananas. Some of these people made more in one week sewing than the rest of the family made in one month put together. They wore their best clothes to work, because they were so proud to have such a good job. They looked upon us(the workers from the US) as almost royalty. If we actually sat down and used the machine, they were in total awe. I would use the restroom "on the floor" because it was closer than the one we were told to use in the office and I had people(workers) telling me "No, no, go in the office, this one isnt good enough for you."


I just cant imagine the standard of living in these Asian countries if they work cheaper than the Mexican workers.

[ieatalot]

again, the jobs aren't going to CHINA, but the goods are being shipped over from there at over 100%.......China was only suppose to ship in 7% of any goods.........textiles: 7%, Toys: 7%, etc etc etc. Everyone & anyone who is in any kind of a manufactoring job needs to start a letter writing campaigne & start making our congress wake up & smell the coffee & start doing their jobs helping us out....NOT CHINA.

http://www.craftedwithpride.org/ this site will take you to any & all kinds of manufactoring jobs & what is happening to them all. Its enough to make you sick. Thie link I provided will take you to textiles though because that is my main concern since I work in textiles.

Between the WTO & NAFTA we are all going to get screwed one way or another so its about time we take action instead of coming to places & just complaining about things.

[schsa]

You keep forgetting that you as a consumer don't like paying high prices for anything. So jobs go abroad where they can build the product and export it to this country and sell it for less than the cost of an American making that same product. And satisfy their stock holders as well. So you're price shopping for a television. Basically they are all the same but the one made here is $200 more than the one put together in Mexico. Which one are you going to buy and don't tell me you would be willing to pay $200 more for the same product.

The same goes for clothes, cars and furniture. Every part of our lives are influenced by the items that we buy and outside of food most of it is produced outside of the United States.

So when you get your paycheck and you need to buy shoes for your children decide how you want to spend your money and make your choice. You can buy American or not.

Anyone who has a 401K has stock. The profitablity of a company influences how much money that 401K makes. If a company goes abroad and can make money and produce a profit, the value of your 401K increases. That is the money you are hoping to have when you retire. So when you look at companies that move abroad, look at the entire financial picture, not just the loss of jobs.

[torahgirl2]

Actually, I don't think the IRS is an official part of the government. Aren't they more an independant body ? I don't know exactly how that works, but it was stated somewhere on TV once and it stuck with me.

Anyway, the reason I bring up the IRS is that this past spring during the tax return season I saw on the news that the IRS has sent some jobs over to India. Some tax preparation businesses also have sent some telephone operator jobs over to India. So, when you are calling about your tax returns, giving pertinent data over the phone, you are giving it to a person in India. How's that for financial security ? :rolleyes:

So, its not just factory jobs being sent overseas. Its bleeding into other areas now. Such a shame.

[MsLynn]

well this is why my family ( and i know our part doesn't matter much) will pay more ( if i can at all afford it) for a product made in america. my parents are the same way and i know several people that are the same way.

alot of this is because we keep demanding lower prices, and this is the way they found to give it to us, right or wrong on any part it sucks. But again thats why i try to do my lil part by buying american anytime i can.

[schsa]

American Express uses it as well. That's because the hours that they need the phones manned they cannot fill those spots with Americans. Finding people who will work from midnight to 8 am answering IRS questions is hard especially with the skill level. India has more educated people than they can provide jobs for. That's why so many jobs go there. They are taking day light hours while most of us are sleeping. The same goes for Ireland. Basically a poor nation but an educated population.

It's not only less expensive but it also has to do with the availability of the educated workforce. But keep in mind that they do not have our work ethic. It's not uncommon for the Irish as well as the Indians just not to show up for work for a few days and then just come back to work. And people accept it as normal. Companies can hire 100 people and at the end of their training they may only have 20 of those people who show up on a somewhat regular basis.

[harloo]

Originally posted by torahgirl2

So, its not just factory jobs being sent overseas. Its bleeding into other areas now. Such a shame.

This is so true. I was watching a special on 60 minutes about tech jobs being sent overseas. India has a special university that prepares these IT professionals, and they KNOW they are guarenteed jobs when they get out of school. The government is allowing more and more to come in this country because the coporations are yelling that they have no "qualified candidates" in America.

The special also expounded on the frustration of American trained tech workers. They are being terminated, demoted because of the cheaper higher skilled worker. The tech jobs are being moved to India and other countries.

So, it's not just factory jobs. Also, I'm tired of the excuse that it's because they want to keep prices low. It's just flat out GREED.