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Maeryn
05-05-2003, 09:44 PM
Before anybody starts making guesses, this is NOT about anybody here on BBS.

Back in September, DBF was looking for a part for his Honda dune-buggy thing. Found someone online that had it. We made all the arrangements for payment, shipment, etc. Well, we paid, and never got anything but over two months worth of BS emails with conflicting stories of what was shipped when, etc. By an amazing coincidence, he was never home when we called.

Supposedly, two different shipments got lost, AND two checks that were supposedly mailed as a refund. No proof was ever provided that ANYTHING was sent to us. I finally got fed up and told him I was pursuing a fraud report. He stopped responding to emails and phone messages. I was referred to the ND Attorney General's office, and had a hard time getting the forms from them to do the report. And, I was laid up for a while with medical problems and surgery.

So now I finally have the forms, I get the fraud report all put together and I email this guy to tell him what's happening. As in, "Don't think we've forgotten about this...we want our merchandise or our money. The paperwork's getting mailed on Monday." And, I made a report on www.ripoffreport.com and let him know about that, too.

Today, I get a nasty email from this clown, claiming that he sent us a check and we cashed it!! He's threatening to go to his attorney and take legal action against us for filing a "false claim" with the Attorney General and trying to commit fraud by getting a second refund! I told him I wasn't the least bit intimidated by his threat, because WE NEVER RECEIVED A CHECK. So he can go ahead and pitch whatever fit he wants. I gave him my fax number, and told him to send a copy of this check we supposedly cashed. I also told him I'm more than willing to provide him with verified samples of our signatures for comparison. That took the wind out of his sails real quick! But he's still saying he's going to mail another check, then sue us for fraud when we cash it. Yeah right, punk...take your best shot!

What NERVE!!! First he rips us off, then starts making threats when I tell him I'm going to report him for it??? Who does this guy think he is??? He doesn't know it, but I've kept copies of all his emails...he's so full of it. {stalks around the room, steaming!}

1busymomma
05-05-2003, 09:45 PM
(((((((((((((((((maeryn))))))))))))))))

There is always one bad apple in the bunch. Hang in there!

eeigh33
05-05-2003, 10:03 PM
go get 'em!!!!!!! this is horrible...way to stand tall...

Maeryn
05-05-2003, 10:07 PM
Know anybody in North Dakota? Send them this link:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=55444

mlayton1994
05-06-2003, 02:43 PM
((hugs))

momtofuss
05-06-2003, 02:48 PM
hope everything gets better for you soon :)

DIDONNA
05-06-2003, 02:49 PM
so sorry to hear about your problem!!
Good luck with getting your money back
from that creep!!

Maeryn
05-07-2003, 10:14 AM
Okay, I need opinions. I was reviewing all my forms, copies, etc for the fraud report I'm submitting and noticed one other little tidbit.

The jerk had sent the nasty email to me, claiming we cashed one of two checks he'd mailed us. In the series of emails he'd sent before, he sent he'd sent out two MONEY ORDERS. How can he have a copy of a cancelled check through his bank, when he sent money orders???

My question is this...should I confront him with this now, or just wait and let him try to explain it when he's contacted by the AG's office???

Maeryn
05-08-2003, 07:47 AM
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MommyG3
05-08-2003, 07:59 AM
You get him. I would not tell him anything. Let him hang himself. he seems to be doing a great job.

Shann
05-08-2003, 08:39 AM
I would keep the info to myself, so when your case gets going, you can bring it up and make him look like a fool!!!

Good luck!

shellysms
05-08-2003, 09:43 AM
i hate to hear what you have gone thru..and I hope that you can get some justice. BUT I've gone thru with the complaint...and nothing ever happened. It really bites that so many people get away with stealing from you! I hope you have better luck then I did.

ladybug1
05-08-2003, 10:18 AM
Don't tell him that! I'd like to see him squirm when he says that you cashed a check he sent you and then they bring up the fact that his emails stated that he sent you money orders......LOL! I'd love to see his face! I hope you get justice out of this! Good luck! Keep us posted!

ladybug1
05-08-2003, 10:21 AM
Oh yeah, here's some other suggestions you could try also (they're in the middle of the page, under next steps you can take):

http://www.squaretrade.com/cnt/jsp/hlp/odr.jsp;jsessionid=3kanumo2j1?vhostid=chipotle&stmp=ebay&cntid=3kanumo2j1&odrid=airxoynyy1&cate=1&ques=11

Maeryn
05-08-2003, 11:32 AM
Thanks for the feedback. Ladybug, I started with the IFCC (which is listed on the site you posted). They are the ones who referred me to the A.G. for N. Dakota. So we'll see how that goes.

I'm still researching other options for pursuing this guy...now it's beyond the money issue. I'm pissed!

Maeryn
05-08-2003, 06:14 PM
I just about keeled over when I got home from work. There was actually a check in the mail! For some reason, he shorted us by $20, but at least we got something. I emailed him to let him know it had arrived, and what his new balance due is.

Think he'll actually be brave enough to try charging us with fraud if we cash the check?? I almost hope he does!

pjkris2001
05-09-2003, 06:32 AM
Burden of proof seems to be his...If he sent & YOU CASHED 2 checks his bank will have copies . Did he offer these as proof??
Also if a money order the # can be tracked ,located & signature copied off the back.
Does he have any of these as proof????

I would copy the check,both sides before you cash it
And pay the bank to copy it once they run it thru the dated machine etc:D
Good luck! there are a few really devious folks out there that make the whole selling/trading process scary for all us "fair, honest" people:)

Maeryn
05-09-2003, 09:13 AM
pj, he's offered a lot of things as proof...claimed he had UPS tracking numbers (for things that he'd previously said he'd shipped USPS..go figure), and receipts for the money orders (which he now says are cancelled checks). He has our phone/fax numbers to send copies to, but I've never received them. He sent one UPS tracking number, but when I looked it up, UPS reports he'd been billed but nothing about a shipment actually being made. So he could have started a bogus shipment order just to get a tracking number, then cancelled it.

I am going to make a copy of the check before Chris cashes it. He hasn't answered last night's email yet, so we'll see what his response is to this.

catk102
05-09-2003, 09:27 AM
Actually if I were you I would not cash the check if at ll possible because by simply cashing it you are implying that you renegionate the debt,and then you will be waiting again forever on the balance due.

Maeryn
05-09-2003, 12:06 PM
I sent him an email acknowledging that we had received the check as partial payment, and still has a balance due of $20.65. Does that cover our butts as far as "renegotiating the debt"?

Willow
05-09-2003, 05:20 PM
Wow what a mess. I hope you get it sorted out soon.