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the fugative
10-07-2002, 08:55 PM
" . . . I know your race. It is made up of sheep. It is governed by minorities, seldom or never by majorities. It suppresses its feelings and its beliefs and follows the handful that makes the most noise. Sometimes the noisy handful is right, sometimes wrong; but no matter, the crowd follows it. The vast majority of the race, whether savage or civilized, are secretly kind-hearted and shrink from inflicting pain, but in the presence of the aggressive and pitiless minority they don't dare to assert themselves. Think of it! One kind-hearted creature spies upon another, and sees to it that he loyally helps in iniquities which revolt both of them. Speaking as an expert, I know that ninety-nine out of a hundred of your race were strongly against the killing of witches when that foolishness was first agitated by a handful of pious lunatics in the long ago. And I know that even today, after ages of transmitted prejudice and silly teaching, only one person in twenty puts any real heart into the harrying of a witch. And yet apparently everybody hates witches and wants them killed. Some day a handful will rise up on the other side and make the most noise -- perhaps even a single daring man with a big voice and a determined front will do it -- and in a week all the sheep will wheel and follow him, and witch-hunting will come to a sudden end.

"Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions are all based upon that large defect in your race -- the individual's distrust of his neighbor, and his desire, for safety's or comfort's sake, to stand well in his neighbor's eye. These institutions will always remain, and always flourish, and always oppress you, affront you, and degrade you, because you will always be and remain slaves of minorities. There was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions."

I did not like to hear our race called sheep, and said I did not think they were.

"Still, it is true, lamb," said Satan. "Look at you in war -- what mutton you are, and how ridiculous!"

"In war? How?"

"There has never been a just one, never an honorable one -- on the part of the instigator of the war. I can see a million years ahead, and this rule will never change in so many as half a dozen instances. The loud little handful -- as usual -- will shout for the war. The pulpit will -- warily and cautiously -- object -- at first; the great, big, dull bulk of the nation will rub its sleepy eyes and try to make out why there should be a war, and will say, earnestly and indignantly, 'It is unjust and dishonorable, and there is no necessity for it.' Then the handful will shout louder. A few fair men on the other side will argue and reason against the war with speech and pen, and at first will have a hearing and be applauded; but it will not last long; those others will outshout them, and presently the anti-war audiences will thin out and lose popularity. Before long you will see this curious thing: the speakers stoned from the platform, and free speech strangled by hordes of furious men who in their secret hearts are still at one with those stoned speakers -- as earlier -- but do not dare to say so. And now the whole nation -- pulpit and all -- will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception."

-- Mark Twain, ca. 1910. "The Mysterious Stranger."

jaybird
10-07-2002, 09:02 PM
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And a huggle!

Jolie Rouge
10-07-2002, 09:03 PM
:confused: :confused:

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10-07-2002, 09:04 PM
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Jolie Rouge
10-07-2002, 09:06 PM
I AM THE WALRUS

KOO KOO KA CHOO

the fugative
10-07-2002, 09:06 PM
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;)

jaybird
10-07-2002, 09:07 PM
"In war? How?"

"There has never been a just one, never an honorable one -- on the part of the instigator of the war...The loud little handful -- as usual -- will shout for the war. The pulpit will -- warily and cautiously -- object -- at first; the great, big, dull bulk of the nation will rub its sleepy eyes and try to make out why there should be a war, and will say, earnestly and indignantly, 'It is unjust and dishonorable, and there is no necessity for it.'

Then the handful will shout louder. A few fair men on the other side will argue and reason against the war with speech and pen, and at first will have a hearing and be applauded; but it will not last long; those others will outshout them, and presently the anti-war audiences will thin out and lose popularity.

Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception."

Sounds so terribly familiar, doesn't it Fugi?

the fugative
10-07-2002, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by jaybird
"In war? How?"

"There has never been a just one, never an honorable one -- on the part of the instigator of the war...The loud little handful -- as usual -- will shout for the war. The pulpit will -- warily and cautiously -- object -- at first; the great, big, dull bulk of the nation will rub its sleepy eyes and try to make out why there should be a war, and will say, earnestly and indignantly, 'It is unjust and dishonorable, and there is no necessity for it.'

Then the handful will shout louder. A few fair men on the other side will argue and reason against the war with speech and pen, and at first will have a hearing and be applauded; but it will not last long; those others will outshout them, and presently the anti-war audiences will thin out and lose popularity.

Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception."

Sounds so terribly familiar, doesn't it Fugi?




;)

I thought it Aprapos ;)

jaybird
10-07-2002, 09:11 PM
...Maxwell Edison majoring in medicine calls her on the phone
Can I take you out to the pictures Joan oh oh oh

But as she's getting ready to go, knock comes on the door

Bang bang Maxwell's silver hammer came down upon her head
Bang bang Maxwell's silver hammer made sure that she was dead

Sorry! :D I went away for awhile but I'm back.

JOLIE DID IT. She sang Beatles at me!

Jolie Rouge
10-07-2002, 09:13 PM
I AM THE WALRUS

KOO KOO KA CHOO

the fugative
10-07-2002, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by jaybird
...Maxwell Edison majoring in medicine calls her on the phone
Can I take you out to the pictures Joan oh oh oh

But as she's getting ready to go, knock comes on the door

Bang bang Maxwell's silver hammer came down upon her head
Bang bang Maxwell's silver hammer made sure that she was dead

Sorry! :D I went away for awhile but I'm back.

JOLIE DID IT. She sang Beatles at me!


:D Bwahahahahahahahahaha


iceicebaby :p

jaybird
10-07-2002, 09:16 PM
I'd like to be, under the sea, in an octopus' garden, in the shade...

Jolie Rouge
10-07-2002, 09:20 PM
jaybird I'd like to be, under the sea, in an octopus' garden, in the shade...
That's KERMIT's Song !

the fugative
10-07-2002, 09:21 PM
:p



I am the eggman
they are the eggmen
I am the walrus
Goo goo g' joob


;)

Jolie Rouge
10-07-2002, 09:22 PM
I wanna hold your haaaand .... I wanna hold your hand ...

jaybird
10-07-2002, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by Jolie Rouge

That's KERMIT's Song !

Jolie...honey...you watch far tooooooooooooooooo much PBS! ;)

Oh look out! :eek:

She came in through the bathroom window
Protected by a silver spoon
But now she sucks her thumb and wanders
By the banks of her own lagoon...

((didn't anybody tell her? didn't anybody see?))
:p

jaybird
10-07-2002, 09:26 PM
Has anyone noticed how, in a matter of minutes, we've taken Fugi's political statement and turned it into a free-for-all NAME THAT TUNE THREAD?

ROFLMSAO!

the fugative
10-07-2002, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by jaybird
Has anyone noticed how, in a matter of minutes, we've taken Fugi's political statement and turned it into a free-for-all NAME THAT TUNE THREAD?

ROFLMSAO!


:D

Yeah I noticed ;)


Sitting in an English garden
waiting for the sun
If the sun don't come you get a tan
from standing in the English rain

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jaybird
10-07-2002, 09:39 PM
...had ALL the lp's. Someone swiped them when I was at a party when I was 18. Okay, so that was only 1971, but that was still a lot of vinyl...

Picture yourself on a boat in a river
With tangerine trees and marmalade skies
Somebody calls you, you answer quite slowly
A girl with kaleidoscope eyes

Jolie Rouge
10-07-2002, 09:41 PM
And I say HEY ! What a wonderful kind of Day - Where we can learn to Laugh and Play and get along with each other !
HEY ! What a wonderful kind of Day !
What a wonderful kind of Day !

What a wonderful kind of Day !

Hey, DW !?!

the fugative
10-07-2002, 09:42 PM
:p


Picture yourself on a train in a station,
With plasticine porters with looking glass ties,
Suddenly someone is there at the turnstyle,



;)

the fugative
10-07-2002, 09:44 PM
:p


See the people standing there who disagree and never win
And wonder why they don't get in my door.
I'm painting my room in a colorful way
and when my mind is wandering
There I will go.
And it really doesn't matter if
I'm wrong I'm right
Where I belong I'm right
Where I belong.



;)

kelblend
10-07-2002, 09:44 PM
the girl with kaleidascope eyessssss


fugi in the skyyyy with diamonds!!!



she came in through the bathroom window


:D

jaybird
10-07-2002, 09:46 PM
I look at you all see the love there that's sleeping
While my guitar gently weeps

Night you knuckleheads. I have to hit the sack. 5am has been coming WAAAAAAAAY too early the past week or so.

(((((huggles)))))

Jolie Rouge
10-07-2002, 09:57 PM
goodnite !
























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