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jasmine · 10-13-2009, 11:32 PM

sorry about that fleabones3, I would def. talk to the principal or something. I know my DD has her classes with extra help for reading and math. We went over all her scores and what grade level she is at at her last meeting.

Jenefer3 · 10-14-2009, 12:28 AM

My son is on an IEP and he's supposed to get a certain amount of help each week. For awhile he wasn't getting that so his doctor referred us to someone and I paid them to give my son that extra help. We switched schools and this one seems to be doing well and keeping up on his IEP and what he needs.

I know what you mean wubby about parents not caring about their kids. We've "adopted" a few of the kids' friends and provided them with clothing, food, love, etc. because their parents are too busy doing a whole lot of nothing. One boy, he's 15, his mom will keep him home from school because she wants him to watch the youngest (age 3) so she can go have coffee with her sister. She gets food assistance from the state but not sure what she buys with it because they never have food. I just don't understand why people have kids if they won't take care of them. Raising a child doesn't end when they're able to walk or when they become a teen.

wubbywa · 10-14-2009, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by fleabones3

I have a son on a IEP.. I made all of his appointments. What pisses me off is I go to the meetings, etc etc, but THEY dont fulfill their end. He NEVER got his special pencil grips, was NEVER taken out of class for help in reading or anything else, like they said. All they did was change his spelling words from 20 to 10 .. yeah that helped

There is so much paper work for IEP's and setting up meetings, it is crazy!! If our teachers did not follow thru on things and a parent complained oh boy that teacher would be in major trouble. When you say he was never taken out of class for help with his reading did you mean another classroom with another teacher? I dont know your child but if that is the case our kids have to fulfill certain goals to beable to go to another classroom for outside classes. (keeping grades up, doing the work, paying attention, and not disrupting the class) when they can do all those things then they are able to go to outside classes and be in our room for the extra help. In our room we have 12 students, all different levels, all different disabilities. We have lesson plans to be followed every day, if one child acts up it can throw everything out the window. We dont just deal with learning disabilities we also deal with behaviors which makes the job very tough at times.
Can you buy the sprecial pencil grips?

cathych · 10-14-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by wubbywa

This is not and I repeat not about anyone here!!!
I am so tired of people that sit and take hand outs all the time but will not do anything to help their own kids out. I work at a school, I find it funny how parents can find "time" to fill out free lunch forms but cant find time to fill out emergency cards or any other things that are needed for school. I am sick and tired of these parents that want to get money for their childrens learning disabilities but will not help them at home with any school work because they dont have time. They find time to go to mental health to get evaluated= more money, they have time to go get their welfare etc but NEVER can find time to come to school for an IEP or any type of meeting for their child and the meetings are set for when the parent says they can come. For 4 years now I have never ever seen one girls mom come to school for a meeting--she is to busy--she doesnt work outside the home!!! I know sahm can be busy but if your child needs all this extra help why isnt the parent responsible enought to come to school and see what they can do also to help their child. I have worked in the school system for over 20 years and I see this all the time and it gets worse as time goes by. Then these are the parents to be the first to complain about anything. I have given kids clothes, food and I have never had a parent call and just say thanks, but they will complain if they dont get a food basket.GRRRRRR the system just doesnt work well

my dh is a special ed teacher also, the other night he had a parent meeting and no one came. He also has to keep extra snacks in his room because parents will not send a snack to school with their child, and lunch is not until the afternoon. He works his butt off for these kids and thier parents do not do a thing for them. Once in a while he gets a caring parent, but that is usually not the case. Last year he got a coffee mug for Xmas from a lone student and was thrilled that someone had shown him some attention. pitiful. A lot of these students end up gang bangers around here.

Licchl05 · 10-14-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cathych

my dh is a special ed teacher also, the other night he had a parent meeting and no one came. He also has to keep extra snacks in his room because parents will not send a snack to school with their child, and lunch is not until the afternoon. He works his butt off for these kids and thier parents do not do a thing for them. Once in a while he gets a caring parent, but that is usually not the case. Last year he got a coffee mug for Xmas from a lone student and was thrilled that someone had shown him some attention. pitiful. A lot of these students end up gang bangers around here.

That saddens me

How can a parent not care about their childs education? If they can't show up, which better be due to working or having another child who's sick, you'd think they'd atleast call the teacher to see what's going on!

Anniston · 10-14-2009, 05:32 PM

To the OP, this makes me sad for you and all other teachers and aides who work within the school systems. I can only imagine what it is like to see children (regardless if they are teens or not) in need of basic supplies or clothing and want to help each and every one.

In our school district, my son attends a suburban elem. The kids at his school are, for the most part, cared for very well at home, so the teachers are not confronted with the child who wears a sweatshirt only on a below zero day.

I am very against the fact that at his school they use candy as a reward. I am sure the teachers are at times, spending their own money on the candy, but as a parent, I am so against that. I become even more angry that there are teachers at the inner city schools who are begging for jackets to hand out to their students. Maybe our teachers would not be so quick to hand out sugar to our kids if they better kept in mind that there are many teachers who would like to spend more money on just keeping their students warm, and are heartbroken that they can't provide for all in need.

wubbywa · 10-14-2009, 09:55 PM

I am guilty of giving candy to my students. I dont do it often, but it is a cheaper way to let them know when they have done something that I am proud of them doing.I also tell them what a great job etc. I have worked with teachers who let the kids save points up and buy candy and they ended up sometimes walking away with 10 packs of gum plus other candy---I was against that. If a parent ever told me not to give candy to their child then I wouldnt, but that has never happened. I do not though bribe a child with the candy that too I am against.

Renrut · 10-15-2009, 11:39 PM

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I can understand a parent not wanting to put their child on meds, I never had to deal with that with my child so I dont know what I would do. We can always tell when a child is off their meds they are all over the place, they can not follow what we have to teach them and the things the state says we have to teach Algebra, geo.,Phy.Science come on this stuff is hard for the average child. It is frustrating to watch these kids struggle trying to understand this stuff. I would love to meet some of these people that decide sitting at these big meetings what these kids have to learn. My gosh some of them are non readers or 1st,2nd grade level readers.

I can't imagine not being there. I have never missed a IEP meeting!! They are so important because the goals need to be followed up and so on. I am sure you know what I am talking about.

I am probably more vocal than they would like lol. If it is not right for my son, he will not be in it or they need to make modifications. I am a total b**** when it comes to my child and his education!!!

We just had a meeting at his new school he starts on Monday and apparently they didn't read his IEP well cause he was in ALL CD classes. I do understand we all get busy but one should never be too busy to ignore a child's education. And to think they put ALL the blame on the teachers with some kids not being able to read when they graduate. Maybe if they paid a lil more attention at home, they would have noticed something wasn't quite right. Just my opinion though.

The medication issue is a tough one for me. We have gone back and forth for years on it. he has been medicated since he was 3 for severe ADHD. I guess I just keep thinking he will outgrow it and until recently did I understand it does not work that work. The impulses get less but it is still there.

The medication does work and is 100% a change in him but it is hard letting my power down a bit and going on the meds. We tried the diet change and all that good stuff. They say only 7% of kids on meds truly need it and I guess mine is one that falls in that category.

Renrut · 10-15-2009, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by wubbywa

I can understand a parent not wanting to put their child on meds, I never had to deal with that with my child so I dont know what I would do. We can always tell when a child is off their meds they are all over the place, they can not follow what we have to teach them and the things the state says we have to teach Algebra, geo.,Phy.Science come on this stuff is hard for the average child. It is frustrating to watch these kids struggle trying to understand this stuff. I would love to meet some of these people that decide sitting at these big meetings what these kids have to learn. My gosh some of them are non readers or 1st,2nd grade level readers.

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Originally Posted by wubbywa

There is so much paper work for IEP's and setting up meetings, it is crazy!! If our teachers did not follow thru on things and a parent complained oh boy that teacher would be in major trouble. When you say he was never taken out of class for help with his reading did you mean another classroom with another teacher? I dont know your child but if that is the case our kids have to fulfill certain goals to beable to go to another classroom for outside classes. (keeping grades up, doing the work, paying attention, and not disrupting the class) when they can do all those things then they are able to go to outside classes and be in our room for the extra help. In our room we have 12 students, all different levels, all different disabilities. We have lesson plans to be followed every day, if one child acts up it can throw everything out the window. We dont just deal with learning disabilities we also deal with behaviors which makes the job very tough at times.
Can you buy the sprecial pencil grips?

Do they still do pull outs at the older ages? My son is in CD for math and english and then LD for the rest except the electives and gym. Maybe all schools are different.

Renrut · 10-15-2009, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fleabones3

I have a son on a IEP.. I made all of his appointments. What pisses me off is I go to the meetings, etc etc, but THEY dont fulfill their end. He NEVER got his special pencil grips, was NEVER taken out of class for help in reading or anything else, like they said. All they did was change his spelling words from 20 to 10 .. yeah that helped

Does he have a case manager? If that don't help call to the school administration building and talk to the special ed dept. They HAVE to live by the IEP. If the IEP goals are not up to your standards, then request a meeting, They can NOT deny you it.

Anniston · 10-16-2009, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by wubbywa

I am guilty of giving candy to my students. I don't do it often, but it is a cheaper way to let them know when they have done something that I am proud of them doing.I also tell them what a great job etc. I have worked with teachers who let the kids save points up and buy candy and they ended up sometimes walking away with 10 packs of gum plus other candy---I was against that. If a parent ever told me not to give candy to their child then I wouldn't, but that has never happened. I do not though bribe a child with the candy that too I am against.

Hon, did not want to step on any toes. However, I am not a fan of candy within any curriculum. Sweets as a reward are not okay with me. But I know that it is cheaper to do a Tootsie Roll than a book mark, or a pencil. So, I get it. I don't like it, but I get it. It just saddens me that some teachers and staff are forced to be more worried about the kids well being (and as you know, it goes beyond just being warm. Sometimes it is as simple as hoping they ate the night before) to think about handing out candy.