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01-08-2004, 03:08 PM
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Agreed DBD and Shcsa. They do often take the jobs no one else wants. How many here know of someone or want to take the jobs they do? Long hot hours picking produce, taking the lowliest of jobs in meat plants or the like, etc, etc. Truth be know most people (I did not say all) think they are better than that. Look how many are willing to sit on their butts and take welfare rather than take a job at McDonanlds. I have lived in Ca, Az, and NM and people I run across think they are too good for certain jobs. THese illegals are already ehre doing these jobs no one else wants to do so why not make it so we get tax money from them. We might as well get something else besides labor.
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That is my point exactly!!!! And america might not be a Spanish, French, Asian speaking country. But why is it that americans want to learn spanish, french,asian and etc. And they would learn english if they had a chance too.
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01-08-2004, 03:31 PM
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Just a few more thoughts... Why would any of us be expected to feel sympathy for felons .Illegal aliens have committed a felony .If Charles Manson makes a prison break tomorrow , is it acceptable for the government to give him free housing ,and food ,and an education ,and let him live tax free as well ? Of course not . Who would want an escaped felon roaming our streets???? Nobody. But that is exactly what we are expected to be ok with everyday .They should be collected and sent back .Period .The Country being on a code orange security alert is a joke.How are we safe when the government turns a blind eye to millions of illegals ? Osama should really consider hiring Mexicans to do his dirty work since they are allowed to roam free here .
When there is plenty of work for American citizens ,and there are no homeless American children ,and 30% of the Federal prison population is not made up of illegal immigrants ,I migh be able to find it in my heart to feel a bit more sympathy .
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01-08-2004, 03:31 PM
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I am not really sure of my stance yet on this...I have a bad feeling about this. But I don't know if any of you watched the O'Reilly factor last night on PBS but one thing that bothered me and these we real statistics. They said that 35% of Illegal immigrants are on total support of welfare and 68% of them recieve some type of assistance that we as tax payers pay. I am married into a Mexican-Spanish family and we all sat and talked about this last night. It is not going to be a good thing. Especially here in california. We have old Gov.Dorkinator wanting to repeal SB 1419, the law that prevents schools from contracting-out services such as busing and maintenance. Bad thing is schools will then contract out to people who do NOT follow strict drug testing and go through background checks. So we may have some person say that is a low life from here or one from where ever else repairing our childrens buses, cleaning thier classrooms, and it just frieghtens me that they will have TOTAL access to our kids. They say it will help them, well what about us. I am soo confused! Ok...Sorry I will shut up now.
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01-08-2004, 03:55 PM
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Osama should really consider hiring Mexicans to do his dirty work since they are allowed to roam free here .
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Okay i really don't think that is fair to say, my parents are mexicans and i know for dam sure that they wouldn't do anybodys dirty work especially that mans. They are citizens now they have been here in the U.S for years now. And they both work and pay taxes and all that stuff.
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01-08-2004, 04:02 PM
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I am referring to the illegals .I have absolutely no problem with legal Mexicans .But I do think they should have to go through legal channels to become citizens here.Not be rewarded for breaking the law.And to let millions of illegals stay here is doing exactly that .
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01-08-2004, 04:53 PM
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I understand what you mean, but lets not be so harsh. Anyways we will just have to wait and see what happens.I do not want to get all worked up about this subject, cause i come to this board and relax from the problems i do have.
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01-08-2004, 05:53 PM
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I am sorry you guys feel that way about the illegal immigrants coming over to work.
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I really only want to point out one thing, they are ILLEGAL immigrants. If they want to be here, then they need to do it the right way. After living in southern CA and seeing what having to provide for the children of illegal immigrants does to health care and education, maybe more people would agree that the illegals either need to go home or get legal. Period, end of story. I hate to sound so harsh, but it's time we stop coddling everyone in the world and start taking care of our own, LEGAL, taxpaying citizens.
And I don't think employers should get off either. I think they should pay steep fines if they are caught employing illegals. They are circumventing the law and taking jobs away from people who need them and would do them if they paid the wages that are supposed to be paid.
But please remember, I am not out to offend anyone, these are only MY opinions.
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01-08-2004, 06:02 PM
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I really only want to point out one thing, they are ILLEGAL immigrants. If they want to be here, then they need to do it the right way. After living in southern CA and seeing what having to provide for the children of illegal immigrants does to health care and education, maybe more people would agree that the illegals either need to go home or get legal. Period, end of story. I hate to sound so harsh, but it's time we stop coddling everyone in the world and start taking care of our own, LEGAL, taxpaying citizens.
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Feliciac, I know where you are coming from. I am here in Central CA...there are so many illegals and these poor kids suffer so much in our schools and take away from the other kids in the classroom simply because there is a shortage of Bilingual aides in CA (no more money) and the teacher has to help them more and our kids less. It's not the kids faults, it is our Governments..Sad but what can we do?
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01-08-2004, 06:12 PM
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Feliciac, I know where you are coming from. I am here in Central CA...there are so many illegals and these poor kids suffer so much in our schools and take away from the other kids in the classroom simply because there is a shortage of Bilingual aides in CA (no more money) and the teacher has to help them more and our kids less. It's not the kids faults, it is our Governments..Sad but what can we do?
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ITA! It is NOT our Government's Problem. It is the parent's doing and THEY need to take care of it.
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01-08-2004, 07:59 PM
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Illegal aliens means just that, they are here AGAINST the law. If they are so hyped up on livin here, they need to do so leagally, go through the right channels. Yes, its a long process, as it was for my Mom who moved to England, took her 2-3 years to get a 6 year visa, not a citizinship, but she did it the LEGAL way. Its not right that we have to support some one who doesnt belong in our country. Now, I dont mean that they dont belong period, they just dont belong because they are here ILLEGALLY(again, against the law) The company I work for hires seaonal Mexican workers, they pay them $2-3 MORE an hour then me and they DONT have to pay taxes. Does that sound right to you?? I think not. And one of those lovely seasonal workers didnt know how to read damn english, didnt stop at a stop sign and slammed into the side of my car, totaling it and puttin my friend in the hospital cause they hit on her side of the car, so THATS why they HAVE to be able to speak English. You go to any other country in the world and you HAVE to speak their language to get anywhere, its should be the same here. Our national language is English, there for in public, it is the language you should speak, at home its whatever you wish. Thats my opionion.
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01-08-2004, 10:28 PM
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ITA! It is NOT our Government's Problem. It is the parent's doing and THEY need to take care of it.
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What I meant and I am sorry I was in a hurry when I posted, I meant it is our governments fault by letting these people use the system the way they do, I very much agree that it is the parents fault by not educating themselves or thier kids. I meant to express I think that our kids suffer by not getting the attention they need as English speaking citizens. Sorry I did not do a good job in my post! DOH! Still was so happy about me breaking my 500 posts! LOL!
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