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Old 01-08-2004, 06:49 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Okie you are not going to like this, neither will I or anyone else here, this is the link to the story I saw.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3882629/
Now that DOES suck. And I am fully against that. And I will be letting that sentiment be known. Thank you for the link.
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Old 01-08-2004, 08:10 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I am sorry you guys feel that way about the illegal immigrants coming over to work. There are some people who are hard workers and would like to come here and work, they do not have a chance over there. That is why they come to America. I am sorry, but there are some americans here that don't even work, and they have the (latinos)all imigrants in America are not Mexicans working in there place. JMO
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Old 01-08-2004, 08:14 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I am sorry you guys feel that way about the illegal immigrants coming over to work. There are some people who are hard workers and would like to come here and work, they do not have a chance over there. That is why they come to America. I am sorry, but there are some americans here that don't even work, and they have the (latinos)all imigrants in America are not Mexicans working in there place. JMO
My husband, who could do ANY job in his plant and trained people, was laid off after being off for surgery, because his employer was getting rid of people who made a decent wage and giving the jobs to the local hispanics who had just moved in, and paying them less. But you are right, there are some Americans who won't work. But, should a person lose their job, to people who are unskilled for the job, so the employer can pay less? That is wrong.
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Old 01-08-2004, 08:28 AM   #15 (permalink)
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NO, i am not saying they should lose there job, to give an immigrant a job. I am just saying that some don't and won't even try and work.
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Old 01-08-2004, 09:46 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I was watching CNN and they were having a debate on this...the guy for it said....THE IMMIGRANTS DO THE JOBS THAT WE (citizens) WONT TAKE/DO
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Old 01-08-2004, 11:54 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Okie you are not going to like this, neither will I or anyone else here, this is the link to the story I saw.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3882629/
That totally sucks.
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Old 01-08-2004, 12:03 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I understand that this is going to cause some problems. But as many as are out of work, there are just that many more who are working hard to get ahead. And they are already here so why not give them some sort of status so that we can collect taxes from them, we can account for them when a census is due, we can know who is in the country and who isn't. There are people from all over the world who come to this country and then just "disappear". They find jobs, get married, and have children. They spend their money here.

If you are here illegally and have been working here for 5 years, paying taxes, and trying to become a part of the community, why not make it legal? I would prefer that rather than having to spend the money to deport illegals all of the time we make them citizens or at least document them so that we know who is in this country.
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Old 01-08-2004, 12:32 PM   #19 (permalink)
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What happened to all the laws regarding illegal aliens? I don't care if someone has been here for 20 years and they are illegal SEND 'EM BACK!!!! We need to take care of our own first! I am tired of working 50 + hours a week and barely surviving. I hear so many times "America's great, they give you your own store and hey I'm not even a legal resident of the U.S.". Hello?!?! Does anyone see the problem with this?? While I'm at it, if you want to live here then learn ENGLISH!!!! America is NOT a Spanish, French, Asian speaking country!!!!
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Old 01-08-2004, 12:41 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Agreed DBD and Shcsa. They do often take the jobs no one else wants. How many here know of someone or want to take the jobs they do? Long hot hours picking produce, taking the lowliest of jobs in meat plants or the like, etc, etc. Truth be know most people (I did not say all) think they are better than that. Look how many are willing to sit on their butts and take welfare rather than take a job at McDonanlds. I have lived in Ca, Az, and NM and people I run across think they are too good for certain jobs. THese illegals are already ehre doing these jobs no one else wants to do so why not make it so we get tax money from them. We might as well get something else besides labor.
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Old 01-08-2004, 12:43 PM   #21 (permalink)
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What happened to all the laws regarding illegal aliens? I don't care if someone has been here for 20 years and they are illegal SEND 'EM BACK!!!! We need to take care of our own first! I am tired of working 50 + hours a week and barely surviving. I hear so many times "America's great, they give you your own store and hey I'm not even a legal resident of the U.S.". Hello?!?! Does anyone see the problem with this?? While I'm at it, if you want to live here then learn ENGLISH!!!! America is NOT a Spanish, French, Asian speaking country!!!!
Hey,where's my store?
I see where your coming from and i agree.
They come over here and expect everything to be handed to them and they get it but we are the ones who are paying taxes and supporting them.I say get them out of here.They are illegal so they shouldn't be here in the first place.
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Old 01-08-2004, 01:39 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Bush is not doing this for the good of the illegal immigrants, and every one know's that this is POLITICAL. He knows that his new immigration sham will be knocked down by both houses.

I am sick of Bush playing politics and fooling people into believing that he is some genuine do gooder when he is doing nothing but lying. In his proposal, after 3 years the immigrants will have to go home. They only get temporary status to work in this country. It's nothing but a plea for him to get reelected and I hope someone calls him on it. Even some of the leaders in the Latino community are skeptical about his new plan.

IMO, you should not play games with peoples emotions.
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