Omg!!!!!!!!!

~Roxy~ · 02-20-2003, 01:35 PM

It's a shame but,so true.

Iluvbears · 02-20-2003, 03:07 PM

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"would you rather be fat or dead"?

That's one hell of a thing to ask young children. What the hell are these school teachers thinking or should I say teaching?!?

ckerr4 · 02-20-2003, 03:15 PM

Well, I'm not sure why the question was asked, but I would not say that the students answered the ways that they did as a direct result of what teachers alone taught them - body image and self image in genreal are things that are taught through many avenues, including family, peers, society, and media, and I would be wary of placing the blame for that on the backs of the schools.

02-20-2003, 03:19 PM

iluvbears.......

Maybe they are teaching acceptance and self-esteem issues???
I guess I am more concerned about the results of their survey than the initial question. Geez, aren’t you?
The answers towards death are startling.

The better question might be what are WE teaching our kids? Sorry to seem obstinate about this, but this is an issue and feeling I know well.

PrncsNYC · 02-20-2003, 03:38 PM

bf's sister told him that she is cutting back on sweets bc she needs to lose a few pounds. (she's 8)

MrsSpeed · 02-20-2003, 03:45 PM

I have a feeling that more kids know what being fat is that they know what being dead means. IMO I don't think that's an appropriate question to ask an elementary school child. I feel they could have used a different scenerio to get the point across and the results they wanted.

02-20-2003, 03:54 PM

I guess it depends if we are discussing kindergarteners or fifth graders. I certainly think fifth graders understand and have the maturity to deal with such a question.
It would be shocking to hear from a 5-6 yr old, but 9 or 10 seems about the age when these kind of image issues really start coming to the forefront.

PrncsNYC · 02-20-2003, 03:57 PM

I worked for the School of American Ballet in NYC (top prep school for going into NYC Ballet)for 5 years and the eating disporders were frightening but then again the teachers would grab the fat on you in front of classmates.

Dolly<3 · 02-20-2003, 04:04 PM

That breaks my heart.

twinkiesmom · 02-20-2003, 08:26 PM

ok. I have kindergartners. I did ask them this question but used it in conjunction w/the class I'm teaching the school tomorrow. Tomorrow me and a group of parents are teaching the elementary kids a program called "Everyone Counts" Basically what it is is if a classmate is blind, deaf, in a wheelchair, etc., these kids are ppl too and they have feelings and like to have friends also . . . My kids know I'm doing this class tomorrow so I asked them tonight if they had a choice . . . what would they pick . . . to be fat or to be dead. My dd told me she wants to be skinny. Told her it wasn't a choice and she said dead. Then I said, "Then you won't have any friends if you're dead, right?" lol She changed her mind. Asked my boy and he said he'd rather be fat.

chrissypoo · 02-21-2003, 01:51 AM

Oh for crying out loud! Why can't kids just be kids? Kids are under so much pressure already and to have to think about being fat or dead is totally ridiculous!

02-20-2003, 03:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
ckerr4 Mad Genius Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 5,158 iTrader: (0) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well, I'm not sure why the question was asked, but I would not say that the students answered the ways that they did as a direct result of what teachers alone taught them - body image and self image in genreal are things that are taught through many avenues, including family, peers, society, and media, and I would be wary of placing the blame for that on the backs of the schools. __________________ Burden Brothers

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PrncsNYC Pouty Princess Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Burbank, Ca Posts: 3,724 iTrader: (0) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	bf's sister told him that she is cutting back on sweets bc she needs to lose a few pounds. (she's 8) __________________ "Our scars have the power to remind us that our past was real" ~Hannibal Lector~ MY FEEDBACK \| MY FSOT \| MY BOOKS \| MY ISO

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PrncsNYC Pouty Princess Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Burbank, Ca Posts: 3,724 iTrader: (0) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I worked for the School of American Ballet in NYC (top prep school for going into NYC Ballet)for 5 years and the eating disporders were frightening but then again the teachers would grab the fat on you in front of classmates. __________________ "Our scars have the power to remind us that our past was real" ~Hannibal Lector~ MY FEEDBACK \| MY FSOT \| MY BOOKS \| MY ISO

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Dolly<3 Peek a boo! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 7,420 iTrader: (0) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	That breaks my heart. __________________ <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 Treat everyone with politeness, even those who are rude to you - not because they are nice, but because you are. ~ ? <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

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twinkiesmom BigBig Workin Mommy Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Mid-Michigan Posts: 5,110 iTrader: (0) Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	ok. I have kindergartners. I did ask them this question but used it in conjunction w/the class I'm teaching the school tomorrow. Tomorrow me and a group of parents are teaching the elementary kids a program called "Everyone Counts" Basically what it is is if a classmate is blind, deaf, in a wheelchair, etc., these kids are ppl too and they have feelings and like to have friends also . . . My kids know I'm doing this class tomorrow so I asked them tonight if they had a choice . . . what would they pick . . . to be fat or to be dead. My dd told me she wants to be skinny. Told her it wasn't a choice and she said dead. Then I said, "Then you won't have any friends if you're dead, right?" lol She changed her mind. Asked my boy and he said he'd rather be fat. __________________ God Bless Our Troops and Keep Them Safe 175/145/140

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~Roxy~ ~Whatevva~ Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: ~Uniontown PA~ Posts: 4,263 iTrader: (0) Thanks: 60 Thanked 28 Times in 27 Posts	It's a shame but,so true.

02-20-2003, 03:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
BeesKnees Posts: n/a	iluvbears....... Maybe they are teaching acceptance and self-esteem issues??? I guess I am more concerned about the results of their survey than the initial question. Geez, aren’t you? The answers towards death are startling. The better question might be what are WE teaching our kids? Sorry to seem obstinate about this, but this is an issue and feeling I know well.

02-20-2003, 03:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
MrsSpeed Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 4,467 iTrader: (0) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have a feeling that more kids know what being fat is that they know what being dead means. IMO I don't think that's an appropriate question to ask an elementary school child. I feel they could have used a different scenerio to get the point across and the results they wanted.

02-20-2003, 03:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
BeesKnees Posts: n/a	I guess it depends if we are discussing kindergarteners or fifth graders. I certainly think fifth graders understand and have the maturity to deal with such a question. It would be shocking to hear from a 5-6 yr old, but 9 or 10 seems about the age when these kind of image issues really start coming to the forefront.

02-21-2003, 01:51 AM	#11 (permalink)
chrissypoo I'm looney, but lovable! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: I haven't a clue, do you? Posts: 2,189 iTrader: (0) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oh for crying out loud! Why can't kids just be kids? Kids are under so much pressure already and to have to think about being fat or dead is totally ridiculous! __________________ It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.--Mark Twain

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