Thread: Did anyone see the videoconference of Bushs and the troops? It was staged!!

10:10 a.m. - United Flight 93 crashes in a wooded area in
Pennsylvania, after passengers confront hijackers.

10:28 a.m. - The North Tower at the World Trade Center collapses

The first plane hit at 8:46am, the second at 9:03am and the third hit the Pentagon at 9:45am. That is 59 minutes between the first plane and the third. Where does 2 hours come into play?

As to whether Flight 93 crashed or was shot down, I have no idea what the truth is there. But, most plane crashes are not with a nose dive straight to the ground, they are decents that lead to crashes for one reason or the other. If the plane hit the ground at a nose dive, that could explain for the lack of any large peices of debris, the impact would have destroyed it due to the force of the impact.[/QUOTE]


As someone who was only 10 mins away from this crash when it happened. I could SEE the plane from where I was. I went to the site within mins of it crashing and can tell you it was in many pieces and there is an imprint in the ground from where it finally landed. It was NOT shot down but over taken by the members on board when they realised what was going on. I had taken pictures since it has been made into a memorial site for all lost from the crash. its a very moving place yes its in the fields by old coal mines.

Originally Posted by Technologist

OMG!!!!!!!!!

I just had an intuition to stay out of this thread... before I do something I don't want to do!

PS - DEBRIS fields from plane crashes all show planes trying to land, when they crashed. MEANING when they hit, the are immediately decellerating, and break into large pieces. The debris field from Flight 93 would NATURALLY be smaller, as it was intentionally rammed almost STRAIGHT into the earth... causing everything to FRAGMENT into TEENY, TINY BITS!

'nuff said...

Oh man why did you have to ruin this thread with logic.

The only thing I am going to say on Flight 93, I don't believe a missile took it down. I believe that the evidence left in the field is not consistant to what a airship would look like if it was brought down by a missile. If a missile or a bomb went off in the airship then the debris field would be much bigger. We all remember the Challenger explosion and how far the debris fell.

NOOOOO don't mention the challenger, we'll be back on the whole "we never landed on the moon" tangent again. Besides that if we never went to the moon and we aren't flying into space then it was just a weather balloon anyways... right???

Originally Posted by stresseater

Oh man why did you have to ruin this thread with logic.
NOOOOO don't mention the challenger, we'll be back on the whole "we never landed on the moon" tangent again. Besides that if we never went to the moon and we aren't flying into space then it was just a weather balloon anyways... right???

ROFLMAO

Originally Posted by stresseater

Oh man why did you have to ruin this thread with logic.
NOOOOO don't mention the challenger, we'll be back on the whole "we never landed on the moon" tangent again. Besides that if we never went to the moon and we aren't flying into space then it was just a weather balloon anyways... right???

OMG! What was I thinking!

Weather Balloon! Good one!

Sorry I have not been online to address all of your posts but I had computer problems and finally got it fixed. To try and respond to each post would take all night so I will try and repond to all in one post. If I miss something please point it out.

Gobs101, the 2 hrs I mentioned was including the time the planes were hi-jacked and still in the air and went off course. Anytime a plane goes off course NORAD is supposed to investigate. NORAD has a protocol to follow in those circumstances, and standing orders of what to do in those cases, please read the supplied link which details why there are questions involving NORADs response and what a great job they had done before 911. Its one page and a very interesting link. http://www.911research.wtc7.net/plan...rad/index.html

Flight 77 of which it is clear that most of you disagree with me on, so lets focus on what we can agree on, I mentioned the fact that all the security camera footage from all the businesses around the pentagon was immediately confiscated and not released since then, well lets just think about that, what exactly are they hiding? Why not release the footage, if a 757 hit the pentagon and there is video evidence of this? Why not realease it? Heck it can't be top secret, its not like we don't already know what hit the pentagon or do we? If a jet hit the pentagon as they said whats the harm in showing it to us? Why keep it hidden away unless there is something to hide? Personally I feel we all have a right to see the confiscated footage.

BTW for most of you who seem to think that conspiracy theorists are saying they the passengers are still alive that is not true, many think the planes landed somewheres (passengers probably told there were reports of a bomb aboard), and all the passengers were put on flight 93. And I find it interesting that some of you think flight 93 was shot down but still argue the official story is totally true.

I also find it intersting that so many of you keep ignoring the fact that the warnings are a part of the official story and NOT part of a conspiracy theory. You keep ignoring the fact that the warning are real, real people got calls not to fly on that day and said so. The calls are part of the official story. Also, the stock options are a part of the official story as well but you all don't seem to think that that all of this can be traced down or is important. First of all the stock options can be traced down, we are talking about someone making money and in the USA Uncle Sam wants his share so there is definitely a paper trail to this, someone mentioned it was probably the terrorists, Well I would agree it was definitely someone with some foreknowledge of the attacks, so why not trace these people down and make them answer how they knew. Heck look at all the cost of money and time they took to get Martha Stewart.
http://www.hereinreality.com/insidertrading.html

What I find more disturbing than anything is your total complacency in this. You accept people who had done their jobs well in the past on that day did nothing right and that allowed 911 to happen. But then when given evidence that can be followed up because you disagree with me on my views you then just trash the established evidence that is part of what you say you believe. So let me ask you don't you think that these people who made money off of 911 can be traced down via the papertrail they left behind and forced to answer how they knew? can we not agree on that at least?

Someone here said her brother worked at the pentagon and said the jets did not go up until after it was hit. Now that is interesting. The WTC had already been struck by an aircraftt even if no one was sure whether it was a terrorist attack the potential was there, those jets should have been in the air protecting the capital from the time the first jet hit the WTC. Does anyone remember when Bush was campaigning in the last election and a pilot of a small plane was unaware that he was in a no fly zone, anyone recall what happened? Why was the pentagon and the capital left unprotected during a time there was a clear and imminent threat? They even told on th air that the planes were headed for the capital. Why did those jets wait until after the pentagon was hit to get in the air?

Ok now to the ones who are PO because I am asking questions and implying by doing so I am attacking our military and security forces, I'm not, I'm simply asking questions that anyone should be asking and I have more faith in them than you do because I don't understand how so many mistakes were made on that one day when they had done a good job before that.

About the warnings in the official report. Lets think like a detective. What is the motivation on warning a few people about an upcoming event that will be a disaster? Seems to me that the motivation behind such a warning is to prevent or warn of a disaster. Since no one can find out who made the warnings this might go unsolved. Mesue: Since it is so very important to you, can you tell us who made the warning calls? And can you tell us why none of the investigations are happening? I love you hear your personal opinion and not another cut and paste opinion of someone else. I am serious here I am very interested in hearing what you think.

As for investing in an airline company. That was a money loss. The airline industry has been gaining money since the events of Sept. 11. What would be the motivation behind this insider stock trading. Again Mesue, very interested in hearing your opinion on this as well.

I believe all of us will agree that one the fatal day in Sept. 2001 a lot of mistakes happen. Some because people are human, some because this type of event has never happened in our lifetimes. Some mistakes happened because they shouldn't of....this is not complacency. Some of the evidence you have given to us, Mesue, comes from sources that have an agenda to find fault and presenting facts with blurry pictures that can be looked at and any sort of conclusion can be reached. Even the 9-11 research site in its disclaimer tells that it has no idea who or why the attacks happen but they are there to give "plausible scenarios of how the attack could have been executed by insiders". That site is just what it is..a site to provide plausible scenarios and nothing more. It is not a replacement theory but rather a think tank of what ifs. If no one agrees with their scenarios it doesn't imply that anyone is in agreement of the official version of events, rather it implies that opinions fall somewhere in-between. Many other sites that have been provided have a real agenda, which is to prove conspiracy theories or juxtaposition information.

I was going to reply and actually post some information. I decided it was just to early in the morning to strain my brain, not enough coffee. So instead of giving myself a headache, I have decided to go yard saling!!

Originally Posted by tngirl

I have decided to go yard saling!!

i actually LOVE yard sailingggggggggggg

Well this is the third response the other two just would not post I will be surprised if this one does.
Pacifica radio reported Condoleeza Rice was who warned mayor Willie Brown. Its seems a bit far fetched until you realize that top pentagon offcials changed their flight plans for Sept. 11, 2001 also. A bit of history on pacifica radio, they are not some weird conpiracy bunch of folks.
http://pacificaradioarchives.org/archives/grants.html
Pacifica Radio and its stations and producers have won numerous awards over the years. In fact, Pacifica has won every major broadcast award multiple times, including the most prestigious: the Peabody, the Armstrong, among others.

As to the stock options these were not people investing in an airline hopeing for its success.
a stock trade that bets that the value of a company's shares will decrease. The week before 9/11, insiders on Wall Street made anomalous bets that the values of United and American Airlines would drop precipitously in the coming days, and also bet against the values of companies that had a large presence in the towers. The "put options" story was covered by the world's financial press in the weeks after 9/11, with many speculations that Osama had made the sickest stock trade in history. ...
www.oilempire.us/dictionary.html

There were many investors some of the money was collected, some has not been claimed. I guess I will leave it to you to decide if this is important info that should be followed up. IMO it should be.