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Old 10-25-2009, 06:32 PM   #12 (permalink)
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That being said (and I agree with Tom Cruise's grasp on his sanity slipping), there are other stars that seem to be saner/better adjusted/whatever. John Travolta and Kelly Preston, Lisa Marie Presley, Kristie Alley and Jason Lee are all followers. While these celebrities may have their quirks, I question their mental status less than I do Tom Cruise. That being said, I know little to nothing about their beliefs or practices other than what I've heard on tv and/or news reports.
I think they are all a bit off. I do have sympathy for the Travolta's, but come one.....Lisa married MJ. Elvis must have been doing 180 rpm.
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Old 10-25-2009, 07:22 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I think they are all a bit off. I do have sympathy for the Travolta's, but come one.....Lisa married MJ. Elvis must have been doing 180 rpm.
LOL I'll give you that little gaffe, but since then, she seems to have gotten her life straightened out a little... at least it seems that way to me.
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Old 10-25-2009, 09:29 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Jason Lee.. as in "My name is Earl" is a follower? Seriously? Wow. I just found this out: Lee is a member of the Church of Scientology and is on the Board of Advisors for the Citizens Commission on Human Rights, an organization founded by the Church of Scientology "dedicated to investigating and exposing psychiatric violations of human rights."
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Old 10-25-2009, 10:44 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Ok, I still don't want to express my opinions... cause they just wouldn't be nice. I would say to those who are interested in atleast one non famous death attributed to scientology to look up Lisa McPherson. I've got a couple of links ... but there are TONS of pages out there dedicated to her... both for and against Scientology being responsible.

http://www.lisamcpherson.org/
http://www.lisamcpherson.org/lisapics.htm (these are pictures from her autopsy, so make sure there's no kids... )
http://www.xenutv.com/lisa/index.htm

Obviously these links are antiscientology slanted... but there are just as many that support them... I just refuse to post them.
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I know very little about Scientology and not impressed by what I do know. I always looked on the group as a cult.
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http://www.popeater.com/2009/10/26/t...y-interview%2F

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thanks everyone for the info. they've always seemed like a cult to me too. almost like a jim jones or the wacko in waco. but to say that i can only make my opinions from being on the outside. all i know is what i've seen advertised and also about the big stars that they "lured" into them. what kind of "church" finds things out about you that if made public could hurt you? that just doesnt make sense. on the other hand, i'm a practicing catholic and i think that if a priest knew you killed or raped someone it would be his duty to go to the authorities. but not make public that you had an affair, are gay, etc.
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just came accross this article:

http://movies.msn.com/movies/article...610&gt1=28101&


'Crash' director Paul Haggis quits Scientology
Oct. 26, 2009, 4:17 PM EST
NEW YORK (AP) -- "Crash" director Paul Haggis has severed his ties with the Church of Scientology, in part because of what he alleged as the organization's stance against gay marriage.

Haggis wrote a letter addressed to Tommy Davis, the head of Scientology's Celebrity Centre. In it, Haggis said he was disappointed by the church's tacit denial of gay rights in the debate over California's gay marriage ban.

The 56-year-old Haggis, who won an Oscar in 2005 for co-writing "Crash," said he was quitting the church after 35 years.

"I could not, in good conscience, be a member of an organization where gay-bashing was tolerated," Haggis wrote.

The filmmaker said that he was promised that action would be taken but that he was frustrated after time passed.

"Silence is consent, Tommy," Haggis wrote. "I refuse to consent."

The letter, dated Aug. 19, was published in a blog about Scientology and has since been widely circulated online.

Ziggy Kozlowski, a publicist for Haggis, confirmed that the director wrote the letter. Kozlowski said the letter was intended to remain private.

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Davis said Haggis' complaints were based on misunderstandings and that he has since spoken to the filmmaker. Davis strenuously disagreed with Haggis' claim that the Church of Scientology is in any way anti-gay.

Davis said the San Diego chapter of the Church of Scientology was incorrectly characterized as supportive of Prop 8.

"We're all for civil rights and the rights of minorities," said Davis. "We know what it is to be a minority and have your rights curtailed. We're very vocal and consistent in our stance on discrimination against anybody. We take it very seriously."

For an organization often shrouded in secrecy, the letter offered an unusual window into a dialogue between the church and one of its famous members. Occasionally, Scientology materials are leaked. Last year, a promotional video starring its most famous member, Tom Cruise, was watched by millions.

Haggis also said he was "shocked" that the Church of Scientology was publicly denying that it adheres to a policy of disconnection — of severing ties with a friend or family member who's antagonistic toward Scientology. Haggis said that his wife, Deborah Rennard, was given precisely those orders and didn't speak to her parents for more than a year.

Davis again disagreed with Haggis and said the church doesn't mandate disconnection with anybody and that it was an entirely "self-determined decision."

"The great majority of Scientologists I know are good people who are genuinely interested in improving conditions on this planet and helping others," Haggis wrote. "I have to believe that if they knew what I now know, they too would be horrified."

The Los Angeles-based Church of Scientology, founded in 1954 by the late science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard, claims to have 10 million members in 165 nations.

Haggis, who also wrote the Oscar-winning "Million Dollar Baby," is shooting "The Next Three Days" in Pittsburgh. It stars Russell Crow, Liam Neeson and Elizabeth Banks.


on another note, i just may have to take a ride to pittsburgh to catch a glimpse of russell and liam!! LOL!

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Old 10-26-2009, 10:09 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Just seen your question.... I would love to read Dianetics. I don't think I could agree with all of their beliefs but I would love to just check it out because I like to learn new things. I have been looking for a used copy of it for about a month now. Don't really want to spend a ton of money on it. The entire series new is quite a ridiculously expensive price.
As far as calling everybody that believes in it wackos... We all have our own beliefs and opinions.
I can sort of see both sides of the issue. Of course I don't know enough about their entire beliefs to judge them completly.
If anyone know anything about it.... Let me know which book to buy first and which one would give me the most information.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:15 PM   #21 (permalink)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology

I found this site to be pretty thorough in their beliefs.... and so much more! Havn't had time to read though, just skimmed through

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Old 10-27-2009, 12:28 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I hope jasmine doesn't take this personally... but pls read what you find on wiki w/ a grain of salt. I'm not saying it's all true or false but it IS reader contributed so may not be based on actual fact as opposed to opinion... kind of like what you would read here. Anyway... I didn't know this myself, that it was reader built, until I worked a little bit for chacha... when I was working there (it may be different now), you weren't allowed to use wiki as a source for answers because it is reader built/wrote. I had no clue until that point.
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