Angelica J

Hi,

Have you ever met someone who is completely incapable of running their own lives? I have met many a person like this.

Only religion or the military seems to help them. There are people for whom religion is a better option than to be allowed to make their own decisions. If religion were completely abolished, these poor lost souls would have no one to tell them what to think and how to behave. Although religion is not necessarily for people who are capable of independent, productive thought and action, it does have its place no?

What say ye?

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speedygirl

That's a deep question for a first post, lol. Of course religion has it's place in society but not in governing and it should not be abolished. People have a right to have free thought. There are some people that need religion to hold onto morality and couldn't walk the straight and narrow without guidance from religion.
Those people that are incapable of running their own lives have more then a simple problem if they allow religion or military to control them. People need to be held accountable for their behavior and it takes more then being told what to do to achieve that goal.

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janelle

IMO religion keeps society on the straight and narrow. We would have anarchy without it. I don't want to live that way. Also, the greatest minds who ever lived were religious. Ever try reading the, "Confessions of Saint Augustine"? I don't know where people get the idea only dumb idiots are religious. Great art, music, etc, has come from religion. Do some research.

speedygirl

Who's saying that people that are religious are dumb idiots? Religion is important in many peoples lives. Others not so much but that doesn't make them bad people. One can live a moral, decent life without having religious affiliation. Most of the founding fathers of this country were agnostic or had no affiliation and were far from being "dumb idiots" Religion isn't for everyone but as I've previously stated, it should not be abolished as many need it to survive. Of course I've read "Confessions of St Augustine." It was required reading in a theology class in grad school and we had to translate it from Latin. Ugh! It was his personal self-discovery and choice in choosing soul over body. It was very relatable to modern mores and values.
Religion shouldn't control people, it should be a part of the puzzle that makes them who they areand gives them a set of values to live by if that's what they need.

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janelle

Why is it people throw around our founding fathers were agnostic or had no religious affiliation. I wish they would site their research---and no, not from Wikipedia. Easy to say, hard to prove.

I think most people are part of a formal religion in our country. They go to some church or another.

speedygirl

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speedygirl

Umm I have posted the links several times from various history related sites and not the Wikipedia nor any biased religious or non-religious site. I don't think I need to post the links each time I make a statement. I have done my research, thank you, and it'd be great if people did their own with unbiased references.
Sure most people have some sort of religious affiliation in the country but it really has nothing to do with the our nation's identity as a whole.

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janelle

I don't see how the religion or lack of for our founding fathers has anything to do with our personal religions. Anyone can do a research on what religions we have in our country and how many members they have. We have a lot of religions in our free country.

I am just going by the OP's original question. It seems like the question implies some people would not be able to think right without their religion. I guess that is true but it would also be true of some people if they did not have------- fill in blank. You could say that about a political party and the way it's members think and act. Does that prove they are like robots and are blindly following? Some do but I think most do not.

speedygirl

You asked a question, I answered it when you made the "dumb idiots" statement. One can use an example without veering off topic. You commented on people doing their research and assumed it was a Wikipedia found answer, I again responded.
I stated that religion should not be abolished and has it's place in society for people who want it.

ETA; actually think we're in agrement on this one Janelle, lol.

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jasmine

to those that attend church and have a relationship with their chosen religion, it gives them peace, strength and hope. I believe that at one time or another everyone looks to find something in life that will comfort them and bring them happiness/hope etc.
Back to the original question, do you think religion should be abolished? Well, that's just a silly question if you ask me.









sometimes peoples actions, decisions that they make if they are following their "chosen choice of religion etc.", is totally based upon the teachings of that. They choose to do this, or not do that because say for example, the bible tells me so...... As for the christianity religion, it also states that everyone has free will/choice... it's what we do with that free will/choice, if we turn and follow the world, or they follow the bible{Jesus**. Some may think it's controlling, but it's just actually their choice of lifestyle and what their chosen religion teaches them to do. IMO

Don't know if I got off track LOL

Locrian

From her OP, it seems that religion and military are the only options she considers.
I have no real experience of military enlistment. If you'd like to serve your country, military can offer many many options, including careers, but religion can't offer anything close. Yet, why are religion and military so linked? Is it due to the fact that both require taking orders from people you may never see or hear and never questioning them?

Thinking of them separately, military service and training gives you serious discipline.
Waaaaaaay different and much more beneficial than any religion.

Religion? You know where I've recently classified religion? A fetish. Plain and simple.
It makes us FEEL good, like swinging, polygamy, feet, S&M, cutting, what have you, 'cept there's plenty more brothels (churches) where you can talk about your personal experience with god. In LA, there's PLENTY of fetish churches (brothels, dom houses) where you can share your personal experience with whips, chains, stockades, etc.

Hmmmm..... and I've got nothing planned this weekend....