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View Poll Results: I beleive in
creationism, exclusively 19 44.19%
evolution, beyond a doubt 9 20.93%
A combination of evolution and creationism 12 27.91%
Alien seeding of our planet 3 6.98%
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Old 06-09-2007, 01:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Americans believe in both evolution, creationism: poll

Americans believe in both evolution, creationism: poll
Fri Jun 8, 2:22 PM ET


WASHINGTON (AFP) - Asked their views on whether human life is a result of God's creation or a product of evolution, one quarter of Americans chose both conflicting theories, a poll suggested Friday. "All told, 25 percent say that both creationism and evolution are definitely or probably true," USA Today said.

Overall, more Americans expressed a strong belief in creationism, or the theory that God created humans in their present form at a single period in time within the last 10,000 years.

A full 66 percent said they believed in creationism, with 39 percent of those polled saying it was definitely true and 27 percent believing it was probably true.

But 53 percent said they believed in evolution, the scientific theory that humans developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life. Eighteen percent said evolution was definitely true, while 35 percent said it was probably true.

The results were released in a USA Today/Gallup poll of 1,007 adults, taken between June 1-3. The margin of error was three percent.

The polarizing issue of how life came to be has worked its way into US classrooms in recent years. Some states have enacted legislation that says teachers must include critical analysis of Charles Darwin's evolutionary theory.

More recently, the question divided Republican presidential candidates who traditionally represent the Christian conservative elements of US society, with three answering in last month's debate that they do not believe in evolution.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070608...UP8bJlNQus0NUE
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Old 06-09-2007, 10:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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To elaborate on my answer a bit. I believe God created us all. I also believe there are some adaptations that have occurred since that time. I do NOT believe we came from a lesser animal to become human, God made us human. That make any sense?
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Old 06-10-2007, 12:11 AM   #3 (permalink)
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to me it makes more sense

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I think that this has been a problem for a long time, that some believe naturalistic causes are sufficient to explain all and some are unwillingto conced that evolution occurs at all. The simple truth is this evolution has occured and can be proven on a micro scale, but has never and can never work on a macro scale. Minor variations are quite possible due to biological need but evolution has never CREATED anything. More and more Scientists are starting to agree that at least the ORIGINS of life cant be explained through naturalistic causes.
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To elaborate on my answer a bit. I believe God created us all. I also believe there are some adaptations that have occurred since that time. I do NOT believe we came from a lesser animal to become human, God made us human. That make any sense?
It makes a lot of sense.
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I believe everything had to be created, originally.

Someone once put it to me this way, and, it made total sense to me:

To believe in evolution, you have to believe everything 'just happened' to fall into place and made 'thngs', such as people, planets etc... now, imagine this... take a rather simple item by today's standards, such as a TV - take it apart, piece by piece, now break it down further, molecule by molecule... now, take all those pieces, put them all in a box... now start shaking that box, over and over, year after year, decade after decade... are those pieces ever going to just 'fall into place' and make a TV ? ... no way, they needed a 'creator' to make that TV.
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I believe everything had to be created, originally.

Someone once put it to me this way, and, it made total sense to me:

To believe in evolution, you have to believe everything 'just happened' to fall into place and made 'thngs', such as people, planets etc... now, imagine this... take a rather simple item by today's standards, such as a TV - take it apart, piece by piece, now break it down further, molecule by molecule... now, take all those pieces, put them all in a box... now start shaking that box, over and over, year after year, decade after decade... are those pieces ever going to just 'fall into place' and make a TV ? ... no way, they needed a 'creator' to make that TV.
You are so right but unfortunately the Methodological Naturalist wont allow common sense in any discussions pertaining to the origins of life.

THEY know that ANY reasonable rational person will come to the ONLY logical conclusion.

An entire universe that displays evidence of complexity and design most probably WAS designed.
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Imagine, sceintists study our universe every day. The more they look and study the more they show that if just one thing in our universe was out of whack we would not be able to exist. So, in my humble opinion, that just proves that the universe is the way it is, with everything in its place in order for us to exist. Coincedence? I think not.
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YUP! I think that all people should be bold enough to challenge their own beliefs.

SEE if what you think or believe seems logical in the light of the evidence.

I tell folks OVER and OVER to read The Case For Christ by Lee Strobel and DDarwin On Trial by Phillip E Johnson. I suspect that many people dont even want to ENTERTAIN any possibility that they are wrong.

Here is a book that sounds GREAT that I havent got to read yet, but its on my list!

I Dont HAve Enough FAITH To Be an Atheist

http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Have-Enou...8098009&sr=8-1
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I posted arguments against those books over on my site in the Creationism thread RM. You didn't respond.

I do believe in a God. I do think God created the universe and all life in it even if it was just orchestrating the big bang and throwing out some protozoa. I don't believe there was a garden of Eden, that the world is 6000 years old, that people lived with dinosaurs, or any of that stuff. I believe in evolution.
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I posted arguments against those books over on my site in the Creationism thread RM. You didn't respond.

I do believe in a God. I do think God created the universe and all life in it even if it was just orchestrating the big bang and throwing out some protozoa. I don't believe there was a garden of Eden, that the world is 6000 years old, that people lived with dinosaurs, or any of that stuff. I believe in evolution.
TRIST me if I had read your "arguments" I would have responded. I NEVER back down in debates. if I actually COULDNT respond I would admit it.

To answer THIS post. A God that creates the beginnig of time and then leaves everything else to chance is for all intents and purposes the same as NO God at all. He OBVIOUSLY cant care for us or have standards for our lives if he never intended us to be here now can he?

This is a very CONVENIENT worldview. It allows you to live however you choose.

Whether I believe that the world is actually LESS than 10,000 years old is really NOT the issue.

I also believe in evolution as it pertains to variation WITHIN a species, BUT I do NOT believe in Evolution as a explanatory force for the Origins of life.

ANYONE who does is either willfully self-deluded, or a LIAR. EVOLUTION can not Create. NEVER has NEVER will.


I believe as Phillip E Johnson does that we should move biblical reasoning on the ORIGINS of life away from Genesis to John 1:1-3

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The same was in the beginning with God.

All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.


The word or the LOGOS is at the core of EVERYTHING. When we find UNBELIEVABLE complexity at the SMALLEST of levels, such as in DNA we should be SURPRISED if we believe in any form of Darwinism.


It makes PERFECT sense to a logical, rational being who believes they were CREATED by a logical, rational being.
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