jasmine

ok, turn to your bible........ go to revelations chapter 9:14 and chapter 16:12,{please read before, after and around these verses to get the whole idea**, do you know what some of these symbols mean?? Like the frogs? Just wondering, I'm pretty sure this happens after the rapture, but not 100% sure. Was wondering if you knew anything?? Not trying to get anyones gander up, was just curious, had noticed the "Euphrates River" in this article and remebered seeing it in revelations

thanks



(March 24) -- Troops pressed toward Baghdad with new wariness on Monday, as militiamen loyal to Saddam Hussein proved they were not a beaten force.

A series of attacks Sunday inflicted the first significant casualties on the allied forces driving toward Baghdad. In one incident near An Nasiriyah, a crossing point over the Euphrates River, a group of Iraqis waved a white flag in surrender, then opened up with artillery fire. Another group appeared to welcome coalition troops, then attacked them, U.S. officials said.

Up to nine Marines died and a dozen U.S. soldiers were missing and presumed captured after the surprise engagements. Also, two British soldiers were missing after a convoy of vehicles they were traveling in was attacked in southern Iraq, British defense officials said. Additionally, two Marines were killed in accidents, military officials said Monday.

In images shown on Iraqi television Sunday, five captured U.S. soldiers - four men and a woman - appeared frightened but resolute as they answered the questions of interrogators. Arab television also showed what it said were four American dead in an Iraqi morgue.

``It's like a bad dream, seeing your son get captured on TV,'' said Anecita Hudson, of Alamogordo, N.M., whose son, Army Spc. Joseph Hudson, was among those captured.

Another prisoner was identified by his family as Pfc. Patrick Miller of Park City, Kan., the father of two young children.

Iraqi officials have offered repeated assurances that the prisoners would be treated humanely, according to the Geneva Conventions.

In Baghdad, black smoke poured from fires set around the city to obscure targets, hiding the sun and giving the city a bleak mid-winter atmosphere. Despite fierce bombardments early Monday, people were out in the heart of the Iraqi capital and some shops were open - mostly those selling suitcases.

Street hawkers cried for customers in the main bus terminal and hundreds of soldiers and civilians milled about. Travelers arriving from the main northern city of Mosul reported that Saddam's supporters have taken up joint fighting positions outside provincial towns and villages.

Outside An Nasiriyah, the mood among Marines was somber and tense, particularly as they learned that some of their comrades were killed while trying to take in prisoners of war. Lt. Gen. John Abizaid of Central Command said the faked surrender had sparked the ``sharpest engagement of the war thus far.''

A convoy of hundreds of vehicles snaked toward a pontoon bridge over the Euphrates early Monday, and watchful Marines lay in the sand nearby, M-16s pointed toward the desert. With many Iraqi forces discarding their uniforms in favor of civilian clothes, everyone is suspect, and all thoughts that Saddam's defenders would surrender easily have faded away.

``Clearly they are not a beaten force,'' said Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. ``This is going to get a lot harder.''

U.S. officials did herald one promising discovery: a suspected chemical factory near Najaf. American forces were chasing down leads from two captured Iraqi generals on possible chemical and biological weapons sites, and following up on a cache of documents found by commandos in western Iraq, Myers said.

Central Command said it was premature to call the plant in Najaf a chemical weapons factory. But such a discovery would be a coup for the United States, which says its invasion is meant to rid Iraq of these types of weapons.

President Bush kept his eye on the big prize - the removal of Saddam's government and Iraq's eventual disarmament.

``I know that Saddam Hussein is losing control of his country,'' Bush said Sunday upon his return from the Camp David retreat in Maryland. ``We are slowly but surely achieving our objective.''

But in the face of bloody setbacks, the steady advance of allied forces in southern Iraq slowed on the fourth day of the ground war, although the coalition maintained a position near the city of Najaf, about 100 miles from Baghdad, and cultivated a growing northern front.

Coalition warplanes bombed a military barracks Monday near the Kurdish-held town of Chamchamal, not far from the northern Iraqi oil center of Kirkuk. At least six bombs struck Iraqi positions with such force that the ground shook and windows were shattered up to three miles away. Frightened residents fled the area as huge plumes of smoke choked the skies.

``People are evacuating, but not because of the bombing. They are afraid Saddam will respond with chemical weapons,'' said Ahmad Qafoor, a school teacher.

Elsewhere, a U.S. missile struck a Syrian passenger bus near the Iraqi border, killing five and injuring 10, Syria's official news agency reported Monday. Central Command said it had no information about the report, noting that U.S. forces do not target civilians.

The bus, loaded with Syrians fleeing the war in Iraq, was struck Sunday morning on the Iraqi side of the border, the agency reported. Syria, which strongly opposes the U.S.-led war on Iraq, has repeatedly called for a peaceful solution to the conflict.

03/24/03 06:42 EST

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smeans

maybe you could try postin this in the religious forum. also if CARROLIN sees this she could help you out.

__________________
At 188 mph only one thing flashes through your mind--189mph
"he was ryan newman fast"--jamie mcmurray
"sweat every detail. Dont ever settle"--ryan newman
vote bush out the door in 2004

jasmine

I would, but no discussions are allowed there anymore, just prayer requests and freebies...... thanks though

jasmine

please keep this up mods, not trying to cause any arguements or anything, just trying to find out, might pertain to the war???!!!!
Very interesting to me!

CARROLIN

THERE ARE MANY OF US ON BOARD, WHO CAN TELL YOU WHAT
IT MEANS TO THEM...BUT IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT RELGION
YOU ARE. I AM A MINISTER, BUT I DO NOT FORCE RELIGION
ON ANYONE, BECAUSE MOST ARE THE SAME, BUT DIFFERENT SECTS,
BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENCES.

I DO NOT PREACH ON THE BOARD.
I WILL TELL YOU WHAT I DO BELIEVE THO...
THIS IS NOT ARMAGEDDON...THIS THOUGHT AND THE SAME
PASSAGES OF THE BIBLE WERE QUOTED IN THE FIRST PERSIAN GULF
WAR. ALOT OF PEOPLE FREAKED OUT AT THE VERY MENTION OF THIS
AND, IT FRIGHTENED THEM TO WHERE THEY COULDN'T CARRY OUT
THEIR NORMAL LIVES. HOARDING FOOD, THAT EVENTUALLY WENT
BAD, BECAUSE THEY BOUGHT SOO MUCH THEY COULDN'T EAT IT
BEFORE IT EXPIRED.

SMILES TO YOU JASMINE...( I HOPE YOU FIND WHAT YOU ARE SEARCHING FOR.)
AND GOD BLESS YOU. JASMINE...EMAIL ME AT CARROLIN9@AOL.COM
WITH YOUR RELIGION, AND WILL HELP YOU DECHIPHER IT.

__________________
KEEP ON POSTING!!!

smeans

i agree CARROLIN. i dont believe its armageddon either. im baptist so that pretty well clarifies my thinking. hope you find what youre looking for jasmine.

__________________
At 188 mph only one thing flashes through your mind--189mph
"he was ryan newman fast"--jamie mcmurray
"sweat every detail. Dont ever settle"--ryan newman
vote bush out the door in 2004

jasmine

I don't{??** believe this is armageddon either, but it just interested me because it talks of the euphrate river. And here it is....

ok, anyone?
In chapter 16 it says that the water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the east.

CARROLIN
email me if you want to share anything

thanks in advance

twiggy555@aol.com

Ghetto_Gurl

jasmine there is a book that you can buy that totally breaks down the book of revelations, and parts of it will scare the chit outta you. however when the armageton(sp) beings the antichrist will rise in the middle east and claim to be God, he will fool many people by doing this, and thus far that hasnt happened yet. also i THINK it is supposed to happen AFTER peace has been achieved in the middle east, not 100% sure cuz im still half sleep though. if you want i will call my step mom and ask her what the name of that book is. jlmk

jasmine

well, like I said, I wasn't trying to cause alarm, just curious. I have some notes here from a while back on revelations on what all the symbols mean though.
thanks

twiggy555@aol.com

seawinds

Jasmine,if you really want to read something that will really get you to thinking go to the BooK of Daniel---chapter 11 and read it to chapter 12 ....this does have something to do with what is going on now...and this started with the first Gulf war,read it very carefully..over and over if you have to . to understand it...

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Lord keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth....

jasmine

I emailed a couple of people asking and only one answered so far, here is her response:

Hi Sharon. Number one, yes it does happen AFTER the Rapture when God's wrath is poured out on the earth. I'm glad to see you reading the book of Revelation. It is very pertinent to what is happening on the earth today.
Rev. 16:13 clearly says the frogs are unclean spirits. vs.14 says "For they are spirits of devils" Devils are nothing but fallen angels in the army of Lucifer the Chief fallen angel.
Verse 13 also says that these creatures are coming out of the mouth of THE dragon. Lucifer has four natures/names/titles/positions. Each more wicked and powerful than the next. They are Satan, Devil, Serpent, and Dragon. His Dragon power is his most powerful. This dragon has seven heads. Very split in his personality.
We have some really detailed books on the that, that will blow your mind.
These spirits of devils will come out of the mouth of Lucifer to convince the remaining people on the whole earth and the kings (rulers) to gather to battle against God Almighty!!!
Just like they are doing right now on the people around the world to rise up against the U.S. in these demonic protests. They are under the enchantment of the dragon power of Lucifer!
This is a righteous war against one of the most evil men on the face of the earth to day! And it is in the Master Plan of our heavenly Father for this old world.
Sharon! Rev. B.R.Hicks is the greatest Bible teacher on the earth today. She even advises the President of the United States! And she said in a recent sermon that she would be surprised if the LORD didn't return for us by this Resurrection Day!!! That's April 20th!!
Nothing else matters but to be ready to get out of here! We KNOW that the enemy of our soul is going to give it his best shot (just like on the battle fields of Iraq) to take us down. Our fiercest battles are being fought right now for our our souls!!!!
This is important Sharon....in this past Convention I learned a truth that will save us!!! And this is it. When we got saved in the beginning of our spiritual journey it was a GIFT! All we had to do is ASK for it. JESUS SAVE ME!!! And now at the end of our journey the LORD will save us by gift. All we have to do is say "IT IS WRITTEN..."AND THEY SHALL CALL HIS NAME JESUS AND HE SHALL SAVE HIS PEOPLE"...JESUS SAVE ME!!!"
Sharon, most of the church will NOT go in the Rapture because they are not overcomers! They are saved from spiritual death and hell but will go through the Great Tribulation.
Just seeing that "Shock and Awe" attack on Bagdad is enough to let me know I do not want to stick around for the Tribulation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am crying out SAVE ME JESUS!! Please don't leave me behind!!!!!! Open my eyes!! Let me see if there is any thing standing in the way of me getting out of here!! And He IS opening my eyes! He clearly showed me I had set my son up as an idol. So I gave him over into the hands of God and that idol toppeled!! PRAISE GOD!!!


{her son is in the military also**