Marriage Proposal Kills 60 Baby Turtles - Page 3 - Big Big Forums

ElleGee · 09-26-2009, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by krisharry

Then again that would mean people would have to actually read the info and learn. LOL

Oh noes..... Smart informed people?? No we can't have that

Licchl05 · 09-26-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ElleGee

Umm being realistic would be realizing that we are not the only ones on this planet... So no, I do not think you "understand" at all. Ignorance is part of what is wrong with the human race. Maybe you need to think a little harder before you tell other people to "think about it" *snarf. It's not impossible to do research in this day and age and eff up the way they did.. How effing hard is it to google sea turtles.. No really you think about it... effing google people.... Beaches do NOT belong to humans and only humans.. Do you honestly think signs will detour people from doing stupid crap like this? How many "do not litter " signs have you seen and then seen trash on the road.... yeah.... exactly

Littering is the least of our worries when it comes to wildlife... That was just an uninformed statement there...

Don't tell me what I need to think about. I have thought about it when I did my out student research at Alton Jones and I continued it after I graduated with my degree... Yes it is cut and dry.. Don't be a fecking moron and propose to your idiot choice for a mate because all you'll do is breed idiot children that have no respect for this planet...It's called think and research about what you are doing before you do it.

It's not fecking hard.. And a lot of people do it with out it being "cut and dry". lol, that just sounds silly.. No really.. Silly. In this the information age..

it's careless, irresponsible and just plain retarded

Okay then by your thinking the next time any of us go anywhere we need to google the wildlife for that area?

I used littering as an example of something people do that hurts the wildlife on this planet, and yes as you stated many people still do it even though they know it hurts animals and is also against the law. They are ignorant and selfish. The law is well known and there are signs all over the place in regards to littering, where's the signage in regards to the turtles? In all the beaches I've ever been to I've never seen one that said anything about turtles...preserving the dunes, yes...shark warnings, yes...never anything about turtles.

Perhaps it didn't even dawn on these people anything about turtles as they planned their trip, I wouldn't even think to check on them unless I wanted to know when I had a good chance of viewing them doing their thing.

Just because you're educated and went to college in regards to this subject doesn't mean everyone else should be as knowledgeable in this subject as you, if that's the case we'd all be as knowledgeable in the medical field as doctors. Not that I'm trying to downplay you having the degree in this field nor being passionate about it, but you can not possibly expect someone who doesn't have the same educational background as you to be as knowledgable in this subject as you are.

gmyers · 09-26-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ElleGee

Umm being realistic would be realizing that we are not the only ones on this planet... So no, I do not think you "understand" at all. Ignorance is part of what is wrong with the human race. Maybe you need to think a little harder before you tell other people to "think about it" *snarf. It's not impossible to do research in this day and age and eff up the way they did.. How effing hard is it to google sea turtles.. No really you think about it... effing google people.... Beaches do NOT belong to humans and only humans.. Do you honestly think signs will detour people from doing stupid crap like this? How many "do not litter " signs have you seen and then seen trash on the road.... yeah.... exactly

Littering is the least of our worries when it comes to wildlife... That was just an uninformed statement there...

Don't tell me what I need to think about. I have thought about it when I did my out student research at Alton Jones and I continued it after I graduated with my degree... Yes it is cut and dry.. Don't be a fecking moron and propose to your idiot choice for a mate because all you'll do is breed idiot children that have no respect for this planet...It's called think and research about what you are doing before you do it.

It's not fecking hard.. And a lot of people do it with out it being "cut and dry". lol, that just sounds silly.. No really.. Silly. In this the information age..

it's careless, irresponsible and just plain retarded

Give me a break. Who does research before they go to the beach for the mating and birthing habits of turtles. I doubt anyone. And these people aren't stupid just because they don't know everything about turtles. I believe they felt bad for what happened and I doubt they'll ever make the "mistake" again.

pepperpot · 09-26-2009, 10:17 PM

If these turtles are on the endangered list, and this particular area at this particular season is known to be the 'hatching and migration' area for them....and also known for this to be a 'public place'......then the conservationists and all others concerned who are educated and paid to protect them dropped the ball by not making sure the general public was informed that this was a sensitive environmental area.

I've seen many areas warning that it is a sensitive area or 'protected' area stating what not to do, etc. and what species or conditions may be harmed.

It was an unfortunate situation that the area was not marked and the couple were not knowledgeable.

ElleGee · 09-26-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Licchl05

Okay then by your thinking the next time any of us go anywhere we need to google the wildlife for that area?

Umm yeah! .. Absoeffinglutely What part of "effing google people...." did anybody not get? No seriously?? People research their next car more than what is going around nature wise around them...Absolutely you should research an area before you visit it.. You don't go on vacation unless you research the area, research the best price for airline tix, research a place to stay, where you can piss next, or where the nearest restaurant is. or download a freaking map for jebus sake. How long can it take really? .......

And if you cannot even do that then there is an issue.. In this day and age of google, bing and effing any environmental sites... really? No really?

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I used littering as an example of something people do that hurts the wildlife on this planet, and yes as you stated many people still do it even though they know it hurts animals and is also against the law. They are ignorant and selfish. The law is well known and there are signs all over the place in regards to littering, where's the signage in regards to the turtles? In all the beaches I've ever been to I've never seen one that said anything about turtles...preserving the dunes, yes...shark warnings, yes...never anything about turtles.

If you googled the area and environment then yeah you would have been informed... People worry so much about sharks (sharks don't attack unless provoked or if you're swimming while you have your period ffs.. sorry tmi

) than turtles get the shaft.Or even micro organisms that do a lot for the environment that is vital to human kind as we know it. This IS the information age.. When I had my first child I did research on my pregnancy.. people research interest rates on credit cards, people do research on illnesses but what is so effing hard about researching an area? really.. You'd be daft if you didn't...

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Perhaps it didn't even dawn on these people anything about turtles as they planned their trip, I wouldn't even think to check on them unless I wanted to know when I had a good chance of viewing them doing their thing.

Then survival of the fittest is going to take charge because the probability of them breeding idiot children is quite large.. unless they get educated that they are NOT the sole living beings on this planet .... Period.. I don't give a flying fiddlers eff...

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Just because you're educated and went to college in regards to this subject doesn't mean everyone else should be as knowledgeable in this subject as you, if that's the case we'd all be as knowledgeable in the medical field as doctors. Not that I'm trying to downplay you having the degree in this field nor being passionate about it, but you can not possibly expect someone who doesn't have the same educational background as you to be as knowledgable in this subject as you are.

And like I said... This is the day and age of information.. if someone cannot take the time to research the area they are proposing to their future mate then they should be weeded out by natural selection.. Tghere really is NO excuse for it.... None. If you can sit here and post on a message board then you can research an animal. It's not hard!!

I don't want to argue with you although it seems like I am.... This shiz pisses me off to no avail and I am tired of people telling me I should "think about it" when I have lived and breathed wildlife conservation since I was 7.. 7.. I have been doing this shiz for a big part of my life.. I come from a LONG line of people like this... Conservationists.. Me, my brother and 3 of my 6 sisters live conservation every day

We aren't going to agree on the way I think shiz should be but I hope my anger and passion has made at least 1 person think "well gee.. google is effing easy " then I have succeeded in my life work..

Anyone who knows me... The real me (and I think a couple here do)... knows how much time and effort I have put into knocking it into peoples heads that we are not the end all be all of existence here...

By the by I am not giving a shiz on capitalization and punctuation like I should.. And I am done... either you agree or you don't and natural selection will be able to tell f you give a shiz or not..

It's not my funeral.....Nor my childrens..

ElleGee · 09-26-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gmyers

Give me a break. Who does research before they go to the beach for the mating and birthing habits of turtles. I doubt anyone. And these people aren't stupid just because they don't know everything about turtles. I believe they felt bad for what happened and I doubt they'll ever make the "mistake" again.

Yeah, you should.. and if you don't then remain ignorant the rest of your life.. natural selection will win in the end.. And yes, they are stupid... very effing stupid

I know a lot of people who research where they go before they go ... It would be ignorant to want to go on a vacation in a war zone no? but you would never know it was a war zone unless you researched it would you?

ElleGee · 09-26-2009, 10:44 PM

And I said what I had to say. I made my point.. and I don't give a care if you do or not but don't try and tell me what I need to think or believe.. Ignorance is ignorance

galeane29 · 09-26-2009, 10:55 PM

Wow, it amazes me that there is so much arguing over an animals death when the topic of the child being offered for 10 bucks has not gotten this much attention....

mabby89 · 09-26-2009, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by galeane29

Wow, it amazes me that there is so much arguing over an animals death when the topic of the child being offered for 10 bucks has not gotten this much attention....

Well go post something in that thread then.

Licchl05 · 09-26-2009, 11:09 PM

http://coastaldiscovery.org/document...protection.pdf

For an area that has taken so much time creating rules about this, knowing they are a tourist spot, the leaders of the area didn't do too much to avoid this. They should have signs posted, and every beach I've visited has beach patrol. Surely the beach patrol should have taken note that the candles would cause something like this?

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(a) Lights illuminating buildings or associated structures and grounds for
decorative or recreational purposes shall be shielded or screened such that they are
not visible from the beach, or turned off after 10:00 p.m. during the period of May 1
to October 31 of each year.
(b) Lights illuminating dune walkovers of any areas oceanward of the dune line shall
be turned off after 10:00 p.m. during the period of May 1 to October 31 of each year.

So not only are the engaged couple at fault so is the damn town...how about them apples?

Licchl05 · 09-26-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by galeane29

Wow, it amazes me that there is so much arguing over an animals death when the topic of the child being offered for 10 bucks has not gotten this much attention....

I think it's because the child being offered for $10 could have been miscommunication. I believe it was Krisharry who said the woman could have said something like 'can you give me $10 for gas, I have a kid in the back' innocently asking for gas so she wouldn't have been stranded with her child.