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Old 09-21-2009, 02:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Maybe because it is? And you are correct, not everything he does is radical....some of it is just plain asinine.

Oh I get it now, it's exactly like the Bush/Cheney & admin.
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Maybe keep an open mind yourself a bit, if you want people to read the other sides views, use sensible language instead of hateful language. It gets very old reading hate & anger articles against someone you support. To spread hate & anger is one thing, if you want people to believe what your posting make it believable & not just hateful info...
Where is anger and hate in the articles above ??
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Where is anger and hate in the articles above ??
Maybe not so much in this one particular article, but where to start on most anything you post on Obama.
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Please ... you used "hate and anger" twice and "hateful" twice ... WHERE do you see this ? Just because I disagee with someone shouldn't qualify for "hatred" and "anger" ? I try to be precise if not dispassionate about the issues I agree and disagree on....
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Oh I get it now, it's exactly like the Bush/Cheney & admin.
I wouldn't say exactly, 'radical' is not really a word I'd use regarding the Bush administration.....but 'asinine' at times would work.
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I wouldn't say exactly, 'radical' is not really a word I'd use regarding the Bush administration.....but 'asinine' at times would work.
That's your choice, this is my choice.
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Please ... you used "hate and anger" twice and "hateful" twice ... WHERE do you see this ? Just because I disagee with someone shouldn't qualify for "hatred" and "anger" ? I try to be precise if not dispassionate about the issues I agree and disagree on....
Did you not read my reply directly above yours since we're being precise??
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Old 09-21-2009, 03:14 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I am refering to this post :
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Maybe keep an open mind yourself a bit, if you want people to read the other sides views, use sensible language instead of hateful language. It gets very old reading hate & anger articles against someone you support. To spread hate & anger is one thing, if you want people to believe what your posting make it believable & not just hateful info...
Which logically refers to this thread and the opening articles.

No anger, no hatred; disapointment, disillusionment, disbelief, confusion, puzzlement ... perhaps... Is the simple act of disagreeing with Obama now a "thought crime" - full of "anger and hatred" and ... wait for it ... racism ?


Why is is so hard to understand that we don't understand the logic of disarming our own counrtiy while others who have declared themselves our enemies and chant "Death to America" are building up their arsenals ??
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I find it very amusing how anything truthful about the Obama administration is called hateful or angry. I guess the truth really hurts some people.
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U.N. calls for nuclear disarmament, Obama presides
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UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) – The U.N. Security Council, at a summit chaired by U.S. President Barack Obama, unanimously approved a resolution on Thursday that envisaged a world without nuclear weapons.

The resolution also called for an end to the proliferation of atomic weapons but did not name either Iran or North Korea, which western countries regards as the top atomic threats.

However British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and French President Nicholas Sarkozy specifically called for tougher sanctions against Iran for defying U.N. demands to halt sensitive nuclear work.

Obama presided over the two-hour meeting at U.N. headquarters in Manhattan, the first time a U.S. president has chaired a Security Council summit since it was formed in 1946.

It was only the fifth time the council has met at the level of heads of state and government and the first to focus exclusively on nuclear proliferation and disarmament.

"I called for this (summit) so that we may address at the highest level a fundamental threat to the security of all peoples and all nations -- the spread and use of nuclear weapons," Obama said.

"This very institution was founded at the dawn of the atomic age, in part because man's capacity to kill had to be contained, and although we averted a nuclear nightmare during the Cold War, we now face proliferation of a scope and complexity that demands new strategies and new approaches."

Obama said the next year would be "absolutely critical" in determining whether efforts to stop the spread and use of nuclear weapons were successful.

The U.S.-drafted resolution called for "further efforts in the sphere of nuclear disarmament" to achieve "a world without nuclear weapons" and urged all countries that have not signed the 1970 nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) to do so.

NO MANDATORY DISARMAMENT STEPS

Critics of the resolution said it failed to include mandatory provisions that would have required nuclear weapons states to take concrete disarmament steps.

John Burroughs, who directs the Lawyers Committee on Nuclear Policy, an advocacy group, said the resolution did nothing to begin a process of disarmament.

All five permanent Security Council members -- the United States, Russia, China, Britain and France -- have atom bombs.

Signatories to the NPT without nuclear arsenals have complained for decades that the world's official nuclear powers have failed to live up to their commitments while seeking to prevent other countries from joining the "nuclear club."

The United States refrained from naming countries in the resolution to avoid disagreements with Russia and China, U.N. diplomats said. But Brown and Sarkozy had no such qualms in their speeches to the council.

"As evidence of its breach of international agreements grows, we must now consider far tougher sanctions together," Brown said.

The United States and Germany are among Western powers that have called for targeting Iran's energy sector.

"If we have the courage to affirm and impose sanctions together against those who violate resolutions of the Security Council, we will be lending credibility to our commitment toward a world with fewer nuclear weapons," Sarkozy said.

Iran says its nuclear program is peaceful and rejects U.N. demands to halt it. In a statement responding to the council debate, Iran said it was open to talks but warned that they would fail unless the West dropped "illegal demands."

Diplomats and analysts said the U.S. decision to organize the summit highlighted a sharp shift on disarmament policy taken by the Obama administration. Obama's predecessor, George W. Bush, angered many NPT members by ignoring disarmament commitments undertaken by previous U.S. governments.

The resolution also urged "other states" outside the NPT to join disarmament efforts to help rid the world of atom bombs.

These states, not named in the resolution, are Pakistan and India, which have not signed the NPT but are known to have atomic weapons, and Israel, which neither confirms nor denies having nuclear arms but is believed to have a sizable arsenal.

North Korea withdrew from the NPT in 2003 and tested its first nuclear device in 2006 and another earlier this year.

The resolution also called on U.N. member states to ratify a treaty banning nuclear tests and supported negotiations on a pact banning the production of fissile material for warheads.

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