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Old 09-10-2009, 09:32 PM   #45 (permalink)
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How about one of the half dozen or so Prime Time live broadcast Presidential Presentation ?? You know like the one he did the very next night ??
and all the students in school would be in front of the television why exactly? Try another one.
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I recognize this, it's called sarcasm.

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September 15, 2009
Is America Coming Apart?


Flying home from London, where the subject of formal debate on the 70th anniversary of World War II had been whether Winston Churchill was a liability or asset to the Free World, one arrives in the middle of a far more acrimonious national debate right here in the United States.

At issue: Should Barack Obama be allowed to address tens of millions of American children, inside their classrooms, during school hours?

Conservative talk-show hosts saw a White House scheme to turn public schools into indoctrination centers where the socialist ideology of Obama would be spoon-fed to captive audiences of children forced to listen to Big Brother -- and then do assignments on his sermon.

The liberal commentariat raged about right-wing paranoia.

Yet Byron York of The Washington Examiner dug back to 1991 to discover that, when George H.W. Bush went to Alice Deal Junior High to speak to America's school kids, the left lost it. "The White House turned a Northwest Washington junior high classroom into a television studio and its students into props," railed The Washington Post. Education Secretary Lamar Alexander was called before a House committee. The National Education Association denounced Bush. And Congress ordered the General Accounting Office to investigate.

Obama's actual speech proved about as controversial as a Nancy Reagan appeal to eighth-graders to "Just say no!" to drugs. Yet, the episode reveals the poisoned character of our politics.

We saw it earlier on display in August, when the crowds that came out for town hall meetings to oppose Obama's health care plans were called "thugs," "fascists," "racists" and "evil-mongers" by national Democrats.

We see it as Rep. Joe Wilson shouts, "You lie!" at the president during his address to a joint session of Congress.

We seem not only to disagree with each other more than ever, but to have come almost to detest one another. Politically, culturally, racially, we seem ever ready to go for each others' throats.

One half of America sees abortion as the annual slaughter of a million unborn. The other half regards the right-to-life movement as tyrannical and sexist.

Proponents of gay marriage see its adversaries as homophobic bigots. Opponents see its champions as seeking to elevate unnatural and immoral relationships to the sacred state of traditional marriage.

The question invites itself. In what sense are we one nation and one people anymore? For what is a nation if not a people of a common ancestry, faith, culture and language, who worship the same God, revere the same heroes, cherish the same history, celebrate the same holidays, and share the same music, poetry, art and literature?

Yet, today, Mexican-Americans celebrate Cinco de Mayo, a skirmish in a French-Mexican war about which most Americans know nothing, which took place the same year as two of the bloodiest battles of our own Civil War: Antietam and Fredericksburg.

Christmas and Easter, the great holidays of Christendom, once united Americans in joy. Now we fight over whether they should even be mentioned, let alone celebrated, in our public schools.

Where we used to have classical, pop, country & Western and jazz music, now we have varieties tailored to specific generations, races and ethnic groups. Even our music seems designed to subdivide us.

One part of America loves her history, another reviles it as racist, imperialist and genocidal. Old heroes like Columbus, Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee are replaced by Dr. King and Cesar Chavez.

But the old holidays, heroes and icons endure, as the new have yet to put down roots in a recalcitrant Middle America.

We are not only more divided than ever on politics, faith and morality, but along the lines of class and ethnicity. Those who opposed Sonia Sotomayor for the Supreme Court and stood by Sgt. Crowley in the face-off with Harvard's Henry Louis Gates were called racists. But this time they did not back down. They threw the same vile word right back in the face of their accusers, and Barack Obama.

Consider but a few issues on which Americans have lately been bitterly divided: school prayer, the Ten Commandments, evolution, the death penalty, abortion, homosexuality, assisted suicide, affirmative action, busing, the Confederate battle flag, the Duke rape case, Terri Schiavo, Iraq, amnesty, torture.

Now it is death panels, global warming, "birthers" and socialism. If a married couple disagreed as broadly and deeply as Americans do on such basic issues, they would have divorced and gone their separate ways long ago. The European-Christian core of the country that once defined us is shrinking, as Christianity fades, the birth rate falls and Third World immigration surges. Globalism dissolves the economic bonds, while the cacophony of multi-culturalism displaces the old American culture.

What is it that still holds us together?

The European-Christian core of the country that once defined us is shrinking, as Christianity fades, the birth rate falls and Third World immigration surges. Globalism dissolves the economic bonds, while the cacophony of multi-culturalism displaces the old American culture.

"E pluribus unum" -- out of many, one -- was the national motto the men of '76 settled upon. One sees the pluribus. But where is the unum? One sees the diversity. But where is the unity?

Is America, too, breaking up?
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The President Speaks to Our Children: Information or Indoctrination?

As do many of us, I have two separate accounts on Facebook. One is one hundred percent political while the other is a personal account for friends and family. I have many friends from both sides of the aisle and try not to let politics affect those relationships. However, it has become more and more difficult in the last few weeks, with more people speaking out on both sides about the health care issue, missile defense shield, and the President’s speech to school children.

The last one was the most challenging issue from which to refrain. For those who do not follow politics on a daily basis like I do, it is hard to see why there would be a concern for the President to encourage children to take responsibility, work hard, and stay in school. Were this all that had occurred, I would have agreed with them. However, what many on my Facebook page were not aware of was the lesson plan that was sent out by the Department of Education a few days before the President’s speech was made public. In the lesson plan for teachers were instructions on how to have children write about supporting or helping the President. We will never know what the President’s speech actually contained prior to the outrage over the speech began. Was the original speech truly a message to students about working hard and personal responsibility?

Even with all of the hoopla over the lesson plan suggestions, some schools still found ways to push support for the President. A few days after President Obama’s speech, one of the members of Smart Girl Politics contacted me and was upset about something that had transpired in her daughter’s school. Her daughter, a senior in high school, had come home upset because, although the speech was not shown in her school, her anatomy teacher had made the class watch the President’s health care speech. After the video was shown, the students were given a short quiz about the speech. The questions asked gave the assumption that the answers provided in the President’s speech were fact and not opinion. The students were given no opportunity to discuss opposing views or have a debate on the topic. In fact, when one student stated that the President had lied, the student was told that kind of talk was unnecessary. Students in the class with opposing views were forced to remain silent or whisper amongst themselves.

The daughter of our member was so upset about what had occurred that she refused to finish the quiz and brought it home to her mother for review. A copy of the quiz is provided below. Some of these students were educated on the health care debate going on in the country, while others simply took the information as fact and filled out their quiz. For those students, President Obama’s speech was their education. Is that not considered indoctrination?



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I don't think there is anything wrong w/the quiz at all and we all know I am not an Obama supporter. I know my kids are intelligent enough to make up their own minds on the issues not be blindly led by one speech. He is the POTUS whether we like it or not and I really see nothing wrong with an assignment based on a very big issue in America right now.
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I don't think there is anything wrong w/the quiz at all and we all know I am not an Obama supporter. I know my kids are intelligent enough to make up their own minds on the issues not be blindly led by one speech. He is the POTUS whether we like it or not and I really see nothing wrong with an assignment based on a very big issue in America right now.
Then your kids are smarter then some adults I know but opinions were presented as facts and the issues were not allowed to be discussed in the classroom, disent was discouraged ( although I don't think the teacher was incorrect in forbiding the namecalling ).

If they are going to have an assignment on something that is such a major topic, don't you think that more then one side should be presented ?
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Then your kids are smarter then some adults I know but opinions were presented as facts and the issues were not allowed to be discussed in the classroom, disent was discouraged ( although I don't think the teacher was incorrect in forbiding the namecalling ).

If they are going to have an assignment on something that is such a major topic, don't you think that more then one side should be presented ?

I was commenting more on the quiz, but yes I do think that this should have been an opportunity for open debate with students for and against presenting their reasons why. After all, I thought school was all about creating independent thinking and creativity. That being said, there is no way my son would have been quiet about it. LOL He is a bigmouth. Wonder where he gets that from. LOL
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Need help finding your "Inner Obama" ?

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/09/24...r-inner-obama/

"Get Schooled" http://michellemalkin.com/2009/09/08...ge-the-system/

"Dear Leader Rap" - video included : http://michellemalkin.com/2009/09/24...er-song-video/
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The three R’s in the Age of Obama: Rappin’, revolution & radicalism
by Michelle Malkin

When the White House announced plans for the president’s nationwide address to schoolchildren two weeks ago, worried parents were dismissed as “kooks.” We pointed to the subtext of “social justice” activism rampant in American classrooms. It’s time for a big, fat Told You So.

Out of the spotlight, politicized lessons continue to supplant core academics.

At the B. Bernice Young Elementary School in Burlington Township, N.J. earlier this year, schoolchildren were instructed to memorize a paean to Barack Obama. A video uploaded to the YouTube account of Charisse Carney-Nunes, author of the children’s book “I Am Barack Obama” and a self-described Harvard Law “schoolmate” of the president’s, showed students lined up in the auditorium snapping their fingers and chanting in unison:

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Mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack Hussein Obama
He said all should lend a hand to make the country strong again
Mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack Hussein Obama
He said we must be fair today, equal work means equal pay.

Mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack Hussein Obama
He said take a stand, make sure everyone gets a chance
Mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack Hussein Obama
He said red, yellow, black and white, all are equal in his sight
Mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack Hussein Obama
Yeah! Barack Hussein Obama

…Hello Mr. President, We honor you today
For all your great accomplishments, we all do say hooray
Hooray, Mr. President you are No. 1
The first black American to lead this nation
Acknowledging the historic nature of Obama’s presidency (“the first black American”) is one thing. :

Deifying him with creepy spiritual references (“red, yellow, black and white, all are equal in his sight” is cribbed from the famous hymn “Jesus Loves the Little Children;” cheering “you are No. 1”) is quite another. :

Burlington Township (NJ) school officials said Thursday the recording and dissemination of the video was “unauthorized,” but acknowledged that the Obama praise session was part of the students’ official curriculum.

Carney-Nunes’s Obama book was on prominent display during the students’ performance. It is a tool, she says, that “allows children to see themselves through the inspirational story of President Obama growing up as an ordinary child asking, ‘Who will change the world? Ultimately, he realizes that he will.’” Seeing everything through the lens of Obama, as his incessantly self-referential United Nations speech demonstrated, is a trademark of the perpetual Obama campaign.

This O-cult lesson is exactly the kind of junior campaign lobbying activity that White House officials planned around the president’s education speech. Alert parents and administrators called out the Department of Education’s activist, Obama-centric education manuals before the event. Federal officials altered the language. Obama delivered an innocuous speech. But on cue, education radicals goaded students to engage in political activism.

White House and Hollywood moguls launched a “Get Schooled” initiative this month with Obama that urges students to lobby for higher teacher pay and to embrace the rallying cries “Know Your Rights” and “Change the System.”

At the New Trier High School in Northfield, Illinois, educators followed up on President Obama’s address with a 45-minute “extended adviser” discussion last week to explore “the significant messages inherent in his speech.” Illinois writer/blogger Tom Blumer reports that “parents were not informed on a timely basis as to what was going to happen, and were given no specific instructions on how to have their child opt out of the ‘discussions.’” The school’s principal and assistant principal sent out suggestive questions focused on Dear Leader’s Do Something missives:

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* Why do you think President Obama listed the responsibilities of teachers, parents, and the government before discussing your responsibility for your education?

* What are you “good at” and what do you have “to offer” your family, friends, and community?

* In the speech, President Obama spoke of some of the steps of Effective Effort. Identify them, using direct quotations from the text to support your assertions.

* Respond to President Obama’s final questions for you: “What’s your contribution going to be?…”
In addition to radical White House Teaching Fellows like Chicago high school educator Xian Barrett (an outspoken charter school foe who founded a “Social Justice Club” and bussed students to protest) and Michelle Bissonnette, a Los Altos, Calif., teacher who is “focused on developing my leadership as a more culturally and racially conscious educator,” the White House has embraced controversial homosexual rights’ advocate Kevin Jennings as “Safe Schools czar.” Jennings founded the controversial GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network), which aggressively pushes sexually explicit, age-inappropriate books and lesson plans on alternative lifestyles.

Lost in all the chanting for change is the core commitment to impart actual knowledge. For progressives in the Age of Obama, setting high academic standards is secondary to the self-improvement of the “whole child” and “service” to the cause of social justice.

Out: Readin’, writin’, and ‘rithmetic.

In: Rappin’, revolution, and radicalism.

Mmm, mmm, mmm.

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/09/25...on-radicalism/
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Take a look at the Obama worship song that students at Longfellow Elementary in Howard County, MD were assigned to memorize last week, according to Red Maryland’s Brian Griffiths. A sample:

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Barack Obama – Oh yes he rates,
The first Black President in the United States!
He’s smart and he’s – so so good!
He’ll lead this country as he should!
He wants us all to work together,
To make this country even better!
Prez’ Obama says – ”Yes We Can!”
Make the US better – hand in hand!
Obama,
President Obama,
President Obama,
President Obama
President!
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This is a little silly ... no other President has EVER been treated with this attitude.

I seem to remember during the last election cycle a teacher was repremanded for having a display in the classroom of then President Bush... because it was "too political" ... no songs; just a photo of Bush, the White House, stuff like that. If anyone had tried to pass some BS like this to "honor" Bush ... people's heads would have exploded !
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NY Times hammers Vitter’s census request
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Published: Oct 20, 2009 - UPDATED: 1:55 p.m.

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amended to ask respondents whether they are U.S. citizens would be a disaster for the survey and taxpayers, an editorial in today’s New York Times says.

The Census Bureau gave Congress the exact wording of the survey’s 10 questions in April 2008, more than 18 months ago, the Times editorial says. Vitter could have debated the change then, it said.

Changing the questions now would delay the census, could skew the results and would certainly make it even harder to persuade minorities to participate.

“It would also be hugely expensive,” the editorial says. “The Commerce Department says that redoing the survey would cost hundreds of millions of dollars: to rewrite and reprint hundreds of millions of census forms, to revise instructional and promotional material and to reprogram software and scanners.”

Vitter wants to exclude noncitizens from population totals used to determine the number of Congressional representatives from each state. The editorial points out that the Constitution requires the census to count everyone in the country, without regard to citizenship, and that the issue has been settled by federal courts.

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