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speedygirl · 06-26-2009, 12:49 AM

http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/mai...280&TM=349.603

July 4th tea party protest canceled

By Camie Young
Senior Writer

LAWRENCEVILLE - A tea party protest scheduled for Independence Day has been canceled, after Gwinnett Place Mall officials objected to the political event, a press release said.

The event, which would have been the third in Gwinnett this year, was scheduled to take place in the parking lot of the former Macy's building, which is independently owned. But organizer Julianne Thompson said she learned last week of mall managers' concerns about the political event.

"Although the event was on private property, the mall was able to assert authority on the matter due to reciprocal property easement agreements," Thompson said.

Unable to locate an alternative location large enough to accommodate vendors, activities and a planned fireworks show, organizers decided to cancel the Gwinnett event and invite people interested in protesting the government's use of tax funds to a Cobb County event, scheduled for 6 p.m. July 3 at Jim Miller Park at 2245 Callaway Road in Marietta.

In a statement, mall officials said the timing was late only because they were not contacted about the event until last week.

"Gwinnett Place Mall is not public property, but is privately owned," the statement said. "In order to preserve the shopping experience for all guests, it is our standing policy not to permit political protests or rallies on mall property."
Thompson said the group is planning another event for July 17 at congressional offices across the state to talk about nationalized health care.

"We will work hard to make sure our voices are heard and our message is clear," she said.

Jolie Rouge · 06-26-2009, 12:55 AM

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Each of us needs to read both the "right" and the "left" mumbo jumbo as you call it. That is the only way to understand the truth of things. If you rely on only one side of the story you are in for a major surprise. To down and out disregard something because it comes from those that you do not agree with is a mistake.

I like to read from both sides and then use that as reference to search for the truth of the story. I have learned a lot that way.

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... and that is why Tngirl is the smartest cookie on this board.

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YankeeMary · 06-26-2009, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by speedygirl

http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/mai...280&TM=349.603

July 4th tea party protest canceled

By Camie Young
Senior Writer

LAWRENCEVILLE - A tea party protest scheduled for Independence Day has been canceled, after Gwinnett Place Mall officials objected to the political event, a press release said.

The event, which would have been the third in Gwinnett this year, was scheduled to take place in the parking lot of the former Macy's building, which is independently owned. But organizer Julianne Thompson said she learned last week of mall managers' concerns about the political event.

"Although the event was on private property, the mall was able to assert authority on the matter due to reciprocal property easement agreements," Thompson said.

Unable to locate an alternative location large enough to accommodate vendors, activities and a planned fireworks show, organizers decided to cancel the Gwinnett event and invite people interested in protesting the government's use of tax funds to a Cobb County event, scheduled for 6 p.m. July 3 at Jim Miller Park at 2245 Callaway Road in Marietta.

In a statement, mall officials said the timing was late only because they were not contacted about the event until last week.

"Gwinnett Place Mall is not public property, but is privately owned," the statement said. "In order to preserve the shopping experience for all guests, it is our standing policy not to permit political protests or rallies on mall property."
Thompson said the group is planning another event for July 17 at congressional offices across the state to talk about nationalized health care.

"We will work hard to make sure our voices are heard and our message is clear," she said.

See poor planning. Now everyone should be ticked at the person that "made" or should I say didn't "make" the appropriate arrangements.

Jolie Rouge · 06-26-2009, 01:13 AM

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...I think it's disrespectful to protest taxes on our independence day ...

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs had said invitations to the July 4 parties would no longer be extended ( to Iranian diplomats ).... "July fourth allows us to celebrate the freedom and the liberty we enjoy -- freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to assemble peacefully. Freedom of the press," Gibbs said. "I don't think it's surprising that nobody's signed up to come."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...OKzTSbeoXr587w

SurferGirl · 06-26-2009, 01:37 AM

It seems like some people missed the information in these 2 paragraphs from the original post.

The Atlanta Tea Party was forced to cancel its Independence Day celebration in Gwinnett, after losing its location due to the objection of Gwinnett Place Mall (a Simon company.) The Tea Party had been scheduled to take place in the parking lot of the old Macy's building at Gwinnett Place since March.

"It is unfortunate the event had to be canceled," said Julianne Thompson, event co-organizer. She continued, "The old Macy's building is on private property, and not owned by Simon Malls, however the mall manager asked the property owner and I to come in the office on Thursday of this week [June 18], and told us Simon does not want political events on its property. They were also concerned about the fact we were using the term 'protest.' Although the event was on private property, the mall was able to assert authority on the matter due to reciprocal property easement agreements."

SurferGirl · 06-26-2009, 01:41 AM

Another part of the op that seemed to have been missed by some is and please excuse the big red print but I did want to make sure people did notice it.

Following the money, connecting the dots:

Gwinnett Place Mall shut down the Atlanta Tea Party.
Simon Property Group owns Gwinnett Place Mall.
Melvin Simon (a Forbes 400 billionaire) is Co-chairman of Simon Property Group, Inc.
Melvin Simon has provided large political contributions to Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Al Franken, John Edwards, the DNC and many other Democrats and Democrat organizations.
Melvin Simon was a major contributor to Barack Obama inaugural committee and has given at least $1 million to the William J. Clinton foundation.
Melvin's wife, Bren, personally donated almost $100,000 to various political candidates, was a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton's presidential bid, and contributed to President Obama's inaugural committee.

speedygirl · 06-26-2009, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SurferGirl

It seems like some people missed the information in these 2 paragraphs from the original post.

I posted the full article from the Gwinett city newspaper so it's a little different type of reporting then from the blog you posted and the contents wouldn't contain opinion or speculation.

ETA I went back and looked at the newspaper and yep, that was the full article. Nothing excluded.

also the piece you originally posted negleted to include a vital bit of info...

In a statement, mall officials said the timing was late only because they were not contacted about the event until last week.
"Gwinnett Place Mall is not public property, but is privately owned," the statement said. "In order to preserve the shopping experience for all guests, it is our standing policy not to permit political protests or rallies on mall property."

SHELBYDOG · 06-26-2009, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by tngirl

Each of us needs to read both the "right" and the "left" mumbo jumbo as you call it. That is the only way to understand the truth of things. If you rely on only one side of the story you are in for a major surprise. To down and out disregard something because it comes from those that you do not agree with is a mistake.

I like to read from both sides and then use that as reference to search for the truth of the story. I have learned a lot that way.

I listened to both sides before the election & made my decision there, I wasn't for Obama at all & after watching all the debates & campaigning from both sides, I made my decision. I don't agree with everything he's doing, but I voted for him & I will give him a fair chance. IMO he is unexperienced & he got hired in with ALOT on his plate, he's not God & he can't solve everything, but I'll support him until I can't no more.
As far as saying listening to both sides is gonna find you truth in a story regarding politics, um is there ever really truth to be found in any politics? In my lifetime to experience the truth in politics regarding presidents usually comes long after or if ever when that president dies. Just like the truth in the assasination of JFK has yet to ever come out. Today more tapes on Nixon just came out that were never released b4. So did I miss the truth on these 2examples some where, did I not investigate both sides, did I not read enough books or watch enough of the history channel, movies & news would you please tell me what the truth is on JFK's assasination.
I'm looking so forward to Scooter Libby's book that I'm sure is in the making, since Bush didn't give him the pardon he thought he was gonna get.
Republican smear propaganda against Obama is & always will be disregarded in my life & maybe not all of this is smear propaganda, but a very large portion of it is, it's not constructive in my life, it never will be, nor do I have time for it.
I am a Libra & you won't better people who never judge by listening to only 1 side, it always takes listening to both sides before a Libra can make a decision. Decisions don't come easy to us, it takes us forever, but when a decision is made nothing can change our minds after that. We're the most fairest people you will ever meet when it comes to judgemental topics.

As far as this Tea Party goes, hey I'm all for it, the 4th of July is the biggest summer holiday & if people want to protest taxes on this fun summer holiday, more power to them. I have a holiday to enjoy with family & friends doing picinics, festivals, partying, fireworks & politics isn't going to be a part of it.
Freedom of speech should not be stopped due to any holiday.

Jolie Rouge · 06-26-2009, 01:54 AM

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The Atlanta Tea Party was forced to cancel its Independence Day celebration in Gwinnett, after losing its location due to the objection of Gwinnett Place Mall (a Simon company.) The Tea Party had been scheduled to take place in the parking lot of the old Macy's building at Gwinnett Place since March.

The Tea Party was booked prior to the events in April and May ... considering the wide spread coverage and high volume attendance the whole idea must have scared the pants off of the Mall management.

With the economy the way it is ... don't you think that they would be very excited about potential customers for their MALL showing up ?? People who will shop and eat and generally spend money ???

SHELBYDOG · 06-26-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by speedygirl

"Gwinnett Place Mall is not public property, but is privately owned," the statement said. "In order to preserve the shopping experience for all guests, it is our standing policy not to permit political protests or rallies on mall property."

Here's the whole nut in the nutshell, it's privately owned
So this big blow up is over a privately owned mall, I don't think protesting makes for a good shopping experience anywhere, especially if your not a republican & don't agree to the protests. I would imagine fights & really bad things could imerge & this privately owned mall would be liable for whatever happens.
It's the 4th of July people, Police/EMT's/Fire Depts/Hospitals have enough to handle with fireworks, parties, intoxicated people driving, do they really need a Tea Party to contend with on top of the biggest summer holiday?
Think about it............
The troubles/liability out weighs the money the mall could make off Tea Party Protesters "in these hard times".
Look at both sides of the story & not just one side, isn't this the rule thumb in here?

Bahet · 06-26-2009, 01:34 PM

Think of it this way, I bet there would have been at least one gay person there. Heck, there might have even a gay couple who would hold hands! *gasp* See, now don't you feel better about it being cancelled?