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Old 06-25-2009, 05:37 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I'd like someone to tell me how is it the Dems can cheat and get away with it but the Repubs can't? Not that I condone any of it.

I guess it's because the Repubs think they need to go on TV and make a confession of it all----which I think takes guts. Ol' Bill kept saying nothing was going on until the DNA showed up and even then I don't think he came out with much about it. Same with Kennedy, no yes or no, just silence and I tried to save her from drowning so I was really a hero.

I believed Gennifer Flowers before Bill got elected the first time but Hill stood by her man and helped him deny all of it. She has looked the other way for years on his cheating and still does. The tabloids ignore it anymore, not that they paid much attention before.

Let the guy go on TV and say how sorry he is and apologise to his wife and family and friends and he still has to resign. I never heard Bill say he was sorry for anything. Not publicly. I am sure he had told Hilary he was sorry a million times but still does it again.

Guess the best thing to do is to ignore it and pretend it never happened. Have a wife who will go along with the lie and none of your business, then you can get away with most anything.
Huh? I think this is a non partisan issue. No one's b!tching about it because he's a Republican. It's because he's a morally bankrupt slime.
I don't think that Eliot Spitzer, John Edwards, Bill 'impeached" Clinton, etc...got a free pass or anything was swept under the table. I don't understand why his party affiliation has anything to do with what people are saying. He's filth.
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Old 06-25-2009, 05:37 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Old 06-25-2009, 05:43 PM   #36 (permalink)
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My theory is if you tout conservative family values then you're @ss is in deeper water b/c it makes you a hypocrite..

not that cheating is ok for a politician at all.
That is probably true.
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Old 06-25-2009, 06:54 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I'd bet at least 90% of politicians are hypocrites...just depends on what they're hypocritical about...and if they get caught.

I've got to say that I'm glad his wife is not putting up with this. I think most political wives roll over on this issue because of the spotlight. It's nice to see someone stand up and say I don't care who you are it's not right.
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I'd bet at least 90% of politicians are hypocrites...just depends on what they're hypocritical about...and if they get caught.

I've got to say that I'm glad his wife is not putting up with this. I think most political wives roll over on this issue because of the spotlight. It's nice to see someone stand up and say I don't care who you are it's not right.
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Huh? I think this is a non partisan issue. No one's b!tching about it because he's a Republican. It's because he's a morally bankrupt slime.

I don't think that Eliot Spitzer, John Edwards, Bill 'impeached" Clinton, etc...got a free pass or anything was swept under the table. I don't understand why his party affiliation has anything to do with what people are saying. He's filth.
I think it has something to do with the news headlines that read : "REPUBLICAN X did such-and-such". The headlines for the dems don't usually ( not always, not never but not usually ) lead off with the party affiliaction... like the title of this thread....
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SC governor's little lie masks a much bigger one
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COLUMBIA, S.C. – Six bronze stars punctuate the smooth granite walls of the copper-domed State House. Each marks a scar left by the cannons of invading Union Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman's bombardment of the capital in the final months of the Civil War.

By last Thursday, Gov. Mark Sanford was feeling much like the building in which he had held sway for the past seven years — battered and bruised.

Two days earlier, on June 16, an override of Sanford's veto of new regulations on the payday lending industry capped what had been an especially grueling legislative session. Earlier in the month, he had lost a court battle over what he thought was a state's right to refuse $700 million in federal stimulus money.

To friends and aides, it was clear the governor needed a break.

That Thursday afternoon, a black Chevy Suburban outfitted with blue police lights pulled up outside the governor's mansion — a white stucco antebellum building with a low parapet that once served as the officers' quarters for the Arsenal Military Academy. Into the back seat, Sanford tossed a sleeping bag, a pair of running shoes, a ball cap, a canvas bag and a pair of green hiking shorts.

Sanford is an Eagle Scout. So when he made a vague reference to staff about hiking on the Appalachian Trail, no one had reason to doubt him.

But if the governor were really going hiking, why would he need his passport?

In truth, Sanford had already strayed from the path. The hiking story was just the latest little lie in a yearlong campaign to cover up an even bigger one.

___

Marshall C. Sanford Jr. is about as lame as a lame-duck governor can be. Term-limited and marginalized by opponents within his own party, the 49-year-old Republican was essentially waiting out his last 18 months in office as people speculated about his presidential prospects in 2012.

Sanford had been known to take off after a legislative session, to decompress and escape what he calls "the bubble" of life in the capital. So it wasn't surprising that it took until Monday for his absence to become conspicuous.

That morning, a source suggested that an Associated Press reporter call Republican state Sen. Jake Knotts and ask about the governor's whereabouts. Knotts told the AP that no one had seen or heard from Sanford since the previous Thursday.

That afternoon, the AP asked Sanford's staff if anyone had heard from the governor. The answer was no.

No phone calls.

No e-mails.

No text messages.

Around 1 p.m., the AP called Jenny Sanford, the governor's wife of nearly 20 years and the force behind most of his congressional and gubernatorial campaigns.

"He was writing something and wanted some space to get away from the kids," she said from the family's beach house on Sullivan's Island.

Mrs. Sanford said she had no idea where her husband was, but insisted that she was unconcerned. Others did not share her sentiments.

In response to media inquiries, Sanford spokesman Joel Sawyer released a statement.

"Gov. Sanford is taking some time away from the office this week to recharge after the stimulus battle and the legislative session, and to work on a couple of projects that have fallen by the wayside," read the statement, sent around 2:30 p.m. "We are not going to discuss the specifics of his travel arrangements or his security arrangements."

Even state police couldn't locate the governor — though they tried.

When he left the mansion last Thursday, Sanford dismissed his security detail. The Suburban has a locator device in it, but Reggie Lloyd, chief of the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division, said it was not turned on.

Later Monday, Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer's office said Sanford's staff claimed the governor had been in contact with chief of staff Scott English. But the governor's office backtracked on that, saying there had been no communication.

"I cannot take lightly that his staff has not had communication with him for more than four days, and that no one, including his own family, knows his whereabouts," said Bauer, a Republican whose relationship with Sanford is generally cool, but who has been spare in his criticism of the governor during their two terms in office together.

To some, leaving the state essentially rudderless was not the worst part of it. A man who seemed to always put family first had been absent from sons Marshall, Landon, Bolton and Blake on Father's Day.

"It's one thing for the boys to go off by themselves, but on Father's Day to leave your family behind? That's erratic," said Senate Minority Leader John Land, a Democrat.

Things seemed to abate Monday night when Sawyer said the governor was hiking the Appalachian Trail. But the quiet didn't last long.

Around 9:30 Tuesday morning, Sawyer issued another statement to the AP. He said that Sanford had called English to check in.

"It would be fair to say the governor was somewhat taken aback by all of the interest this trip has gotten," Sawyer wrote. "Given the circumstances and the attention this has garnered, the governor communicated to us that he plans on returning to the office tomorrow."

According to Sawyer, Sanford still did not divulge where he had been, and no one asked. But it soon became clear that he had not been hiking.

Around 10:30 p.m. Tuesday, CNN's Political Ticker reported that the black Suburban had been found in a parking lot at Columbia Metropolitan Airport, the camping gear still inside.

___

At 6:15 a.m. Wednesday, Gina Smith, a reporter from The State newspaper, was standing in the waiting area at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport.

Since December, the Columbia newspaper had been sitting on a stack of e-mails, which it says were sent anonymously. They were purportedly personal correspondence between Sanford and a woman in Argentina named "Maria."

"You are my love ... something hard to believe even for myself as it's also a kind of impossible love, not only because of distance but situation," one message to Sanford, dated July 9, read. "Sometimes you don't choose things, they just happen. ... I can't redirect my feelings and I am very happy with mine towards you."

The paper then received an anonymous tip that Sanford had been spotted on a flight to Buenos Aires, but had no idea when he might be returning. Acting on a hunch, Smith staked out the airport.

She was craning her neck, squinting as she scanned the crowd. When she spotted Sanford, any doubts Smith might have had about the e-mails' authenticity seemed to evaporate.

The tip was so sketchy that the paper had decided not to send a photographer with Smith. Acting reflexively, she snapped a quick photo with her digital camera, then called out to Sanford.

"Governor!" she shouted. "Everybody's been worried about where you've been. ... Have you been on the Appalachian Trail?"

Clearly flummoxed, the governor invited Smith to sit down with him in the waiting area. According to Smith, a visibly deflated Sanford gazed absently into the distance, his mouth opening, then closing, as if he were at a loss for words.

Sanford acknowledged that while he had planned to go hiking, he had actually been to Argentina. Then, in what now appears to have been a last, desperate attempt to delay the inevitable, the governor launched into a ramble about other "adventure trips" he had taken to Turkey, Greece and other parts of South America.

Smith asked whether Sanford had been alone in Buenos Aires. Yes, he replied.

When she pushed the issue, Sanford abruptly ended the interview and left.

About four hours later, Sanford's office announced that he would be holding a press conference at 2 p.m. beneath the vaulted brick ceiling in the Doric-columned lower lobby of the State House, just feet from the governor's suite.

Starting a half-hour late, Sanford hemmed and hawed for several minutes, as he had done that morning with Smith.

"I guess where I'm trying to go with this is there are moral absolutes, and that God's law indeed is there to protect you from yourself," he told the stunned assembly. "And there are consequences if you breach that.

"This press conference is a consequence."

___

Whether Sanford has come clean with the whole truth remains to be seen. If any of his staff, family or confidantes really knew where he was during his lost week, none is talking.

Former aide Tom Davis — who stood beside Sanford during the news conference and whom Sanford singled out for a special apology — told CBS News Thursday morning that he had no idea about the affair or the trip to Argentina.

"The 30 years I've known Mark Sanford," he said, "this blew me away."

At his news conference, Sanford also singled out longtime friend and spiritual counselor Warren "Cubby" Culbertson.

Standing outside his Columbia home, Culbertson declined to tell the AP whether he knew of Sanford's South America trip. He did say that Sanford called him some time ago for advice, and that "we've been kind of walking down this road together since then."

Whatever lies Sanford told along the way, Culbertson said he is confident his friend "is going to try to change."

"There's an element of darkness out there that's undeniable," Culbertson said. "And it's bigger than us."

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I think it has something to do with the news headlines that read : "REPUBLICAN X did such-and-such". The headlines for the dems don't usually ( not always, not never but not usually ) lead off with the party affiliaction... like the title of this thread....
Perhaps for some that's how they think but I was responding to Janelle's comment stating;

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I'd like someone to tell me how is it the Dems can cheat and get away with it but the Repubs can't?
Democrats don't get a pass when it comes to cheating and neither do Republicans. I hate hypocrites from any walk of life.

It's not like most of us really give a crap as to which party the scumbag is associated with. Dirt is dirt.

And yes, Dem's scandals are led off with Democrat as much as Republicans are. I've seen it here as well as elsewhere.

A scandal is a scandal. When people behave like assclowns, I don't care who they're affiliated with. IMHO, any person with a modicum of intelligence wouldn't be blinded by a party line.
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I think it has something to do with the news headlines that read : "REPUBLICAN X did such-and-such". The headlines for the dems don't usually ( not always, not never but not usually ) lead off with the party affiliaction... like the title of this thread....
I think that is a bunch of hookie.
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I think it has something to do with the news headlines that read : "REPUBLICAN X did such-and-such". The headlines for the dems don't usually ( not always, not never but not usually ) lead off with the party affiliaction... like the title of this thread....
maybe its the websites you visit.
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He needs to go. He doesnt deserve his job.
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