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Old 03-11-2009, 06:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ford-UAW deal cuts wages to $55 an hour

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DETROIT (Reuters) – Ford Motor Co expects operating savings of $500 million per year from an agreement with the United Auto Workers that will push hourly wage rates into the "ballpark" of foreign-based rivals, the company said on Wednesday.

The agreement trims average wages and benefits for UAW hourly workers to about $55 per hour this year, while the U.S. operations of foreign-based automakers -- or what executives call "transplants" -- pay workers on average $48 to $49 per hour, Ford said.

The agreement with the UAW, which workers ratified earlier in March, allows Ford to suspend some performance and bonus payments, reduce overtime costs and cut a paid holiday, as well as restructure funding of a union retiree healthcare trust.

Joe Hinrichs, Ford's global head of manufacturing, said the savings from the operating agreement and restructuring of the funding of the trust, the Voluntary Employee Beneficiary Association, are "critical to our future competitiveness."

"This gets us to within the ballpark of where the transplants are," Hinrichs said in a conference call with analysts and reporters.

"Over the next couple of years with the buyouts and with the ability to leverage some of the other tools that are now in this agreement, we think we can get there within the next couple of years on parity with the transplants," he said.

The annual savings could exceed $500 million if industry conditions allowed Ford to exercise all of the changes in the agreement, Hinrichs said.

Ford has about 42,000 hourly workers covered by the contract. About half of the annual savings would come from the elimination of performance bonuses and the Christmas bonus and the suspension of cost of living increases.

Ford restructured payments into the VEBA, including the option to contribute about half in company stock, to conserve cash. The plan to make payments in stock requires shareholder approval at the Ford annual meeting this year.

Ford, which posted a record $14.7 billion net loss for 2008, has said it believes it has adequate liquidity to operate through the economic downturn without seeking emergency U.S. government loans.

The agreement with the UAW effectively puts Ford's U.S. hourly wage rates in line with the cuts cross-town rivals General Motors Corp and Chrysler LLC have been negotiating with the union under their government bailouts.

Chrysler, about 80 percent controlled by Cerberus Capital Management LP, and GM have received $17.4 billion of emergency government loans and have requested billions more in emergency loans to complete restructurings.

GM and Chrysler also have reached tentative agreements with the UAW on labor issues, but have withheld details until talks are completed on the funding of their healthcare trusts.

Wages and benefits in the GM UAW agreement are patterned on the Ford contract, but the contracts differ in other areas such as employee placement and company-specific details, UAW Vice President Cal Rapson said in a letter to members on Monday.

"It appears that the agreement essentially meets the terms set forth by the U.S. Treasury loan (to GM)," KeyBanc Capital Markets analyst Brett Hoselton said in a note to clients.

"If correct, we believe this is a significant milestone and investors should now turn their attention to negotiations with the bondholders," Hoselton said.

Ford has announced salaried job cuts and executive pay reductions and last week launched an effort to reduce $25.8 billion of automotive debt by up to 40 percent through conversion of debt to equity and tender offers.

Ford also has agreed to offer buyouts to UAW-represented workers from April 1 through May 22. Ford has offered buyouts previously to hourly workers and the offers will be lower than those in the past due to the current economic conditions.

Ford plans to consolidate assembly work between adjacent Michigan Truck and Wayne Assembly plants near Detroit. The automaker is converting its Michigan Truck plant to build the European-designed 2010 Ford Focus small car.

The Wayne facility will continue to perform stamping and some body work and the consolidation is not expected to result in job cuts from the Wayne facility.

Ford shares were up 9 cents, or 4.9 percent, at $1.94 on the New York Stock Exchange late in the trading session.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090311/bs_nm/us_ford
The UAW accepted an hourly drop in pay to 55.00 per hour?? I have no sympathy for them and will probably never buy an American Car again.
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Old 03-11-2009, 06:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What a bunch of BS
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Oh, those poor Union Workers, only making $55 an hour, how will there families survive? Boo-Hoo......
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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It has really burned me on the big three of buying from them. Once I learned what they made, the banks etc. Here these companies are getting bailouts out and they are paying employees these outlandish salaries while most people would love to earn $10-15 per hour!! Commen sense says its not how much it costs to make a car, its how much you are paying your employees to make them!!
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:53 PM   #5 (permalink)
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My cousin works for Nissan in Mississippi and I guarantee you he does not make $ 50.00 per hour. I have to agree with LuvBigRip - what a crock of horse manure.
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"The agreement trims average wages and benefits for UAW hourly workers to about $55 per hour this year, "

I take that as the total cost per hour for wages and benefits together. They would have to be making over a $100,000/yr at that wage. I doubt that they do. I'm not saying they are not way over paid but I don't see those kinds of W-2's. Pharmaceutical salesman YES!
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Old 03-12-2009, 10:50 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Quite a few people in my family work for Chrysler and are UAW members. They do NOT make $55 on their actual paycheck. That $55 includes, medical, dental, vision and life insurance, paid holidays and all other of those types of benefits. Their paycheck pay is about $23 to $25 an hour. Most of the UAW workers (not the UAW bosses) agreed last year to take pay cuts and do what is necessary to keep their jobs as long as the management did too. A lot of them lost their jobs anyway. I think a restructuring of thier contracts was in order, but I don't agree with them taking things (mainly health care) from the retirees, they are mostly senior citizens and cannot afford it. I would not take a foreign car if it was given to me. I refuse to support another country if I don't have to.
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Many foreign cars are made in America these days
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YEP and Honda and Toyota does NOT have the banks where they can sit at home and earn 90 % of the salary. They also earn About $18 per hour which to me is a pretty darn good rate. And to my knowledge they offer benefits etc. as well. The difference between these two and the Big 3 autos are IMO the unions. I'm not against a union. But when you are paying people that much money and you have to charge that much more for a vehicle to pay them I'm sorry but I will have to consider another brand.
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YEP and Honda and Toyota does NOT have the banks where they can sit at home and earn 90 % of the salary. They also earn About $18 per hour which to me is a pretty darn good rate. And to my knowledge they offer benefits etc. as well.

You can't say that across the board.....it's all relative to where you live.....

Is the average home in your area $150,000 or $500,000 ?

While $38,000. may seem like a reasonable salary......your family would still need 2 incomes to support itself and the children....

*that is not saying I think they should earn $55 per hour*
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