atprm

*I agree with this article AND I agree with some of the comments beneath the article.

Think about it... this year, marks the first time since the invention of the lightbulb, that they are being irradicated -- no longer will be legal in the United States to own or use the incandescent light bulb... EVERYONE MUST SWITCH to the flourescent bulbs, which are VERY expensive -- starting in 2009... it's a con game... and it's worth BIG BIG MONEY!!

All these environmental groups that are being this machine, are pushing for less human beings... etc... if they are worried about CO2...why not push to PLANT TREES which take CO2 in and produce oxygen???*

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Environment minister Sammy Wilson: I still think man-made climate change is a con

Spending billions on trying to reduce carbon emissions is one giant con that is depriving third world countries of vital funds to tackle famine, HIV and other diseases, Sammy Wilson said.

The DUP minister has been heavily criticised by environmentalists for claiming that ongoing climatic shifts are down to nature and not mankind.

But while acknowledging his views on global warming may not be popular, the East Antrim MP said he was not prepared to be bullied by eco fundamentalists.

“I’ll not be stopped saying what I believe needs to be said about climate change,” he said.

"Most of the people who shout about climate change have not read one article about it

“I think in 20 years’ time we will look back at this whole climate change debate and ask ourselves how on earth were we ever conned into spending the billions of pounds which are going into this without any kind of rigorous examination of the background, the science, the implications of it all. Because there is now a degree of hysteria about it, fairly unformed hysteria I’ve got to say as well.

“I mean I get it in the Assembly all the time and most of the people who shout about climate change have not read one article about climate change, not read one book about climate change, if you asked them to explain how they believe there’s a connection between CO2 emission and the effects which they claim there’s going to be, if you ask them to explain the thought process or the modelling that is required and the assumptions behind that and how tenuous all the connections are, they wouldn’t have a clue.

“They simply get letters about it from all these lobby groups, it’s popular and therefore they go along with the flow — and that would be ok if there were no implications for it, but the implications are immense.”

He said while people in the western world were facing spiralling fuel bills as a result of efforts to cut CO2, the implications in poorer countries were graver.

“What are the problems that face us either locally and internationally. Are those not the things we should be concentrating on?” he asked.

“HIV, lack of clean water, which kills millions of people in third world countries, lack of education.

“A fraction of the money we are currently spending on climate change could actually eradicate those three problems alone, a fraction of it.

“I think as a society we sometimes need to get some of these things in perspective and when I listen to some of the rubbish that is spoken by some of my colleagues in the Assembly it amuses me at times and other times it angers me.”

Despite his views on CO2, Mr Wilson said he does not intend to backtrack on commitments made by his predecessor at the Department of the Environment, Arlene Foster, to make the Stormont estate carbon neutral.

He said while he wasn’t worried about reducing CO2 output, he said the policy would help to cut fuels bills.

“I don’t couch those actions in terms of reducing Co2 emissions,” he said. “I don’t care about Co2 emissions to be quite truthful because I don’t think it’s all that important but what I do believe is, and perhaps this is where there can be some convergence, as far as using fuel more efficiently that is good for our economy; that makes us more competitive. If we can save in schools hundreds of thousands on fuel that’s more money being put for books or classroom assistants.

“So yes there are things we can do. If you want to express it terms of carbon neutral, I just express it terms of making the place more efficient, less wasteful and hopefully that will release money to do the proper things that we should be doing.”



Read the comments to this article -- they make sense!!!

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3lilpigs

EVERYTHING is like that now, not just lightbulbs.

What about tvs? Now they have to be digital. They have to be flatscreen.

What about cell phones? Can't buy a cell phone unless it has a camera and tons of other useless crap. I want a PHONE to talk on. I don't need to check my email or be online all day.

DVD players? They're cramming Blue Ray down our throats. How much better are these damn pictures going to get? A picture is only as good as your VISION.

Refrigerators? Try finding one that doesn't have that stupid water dispenser in the door.

It's just constant change...out with the old, and in with the new. We're forced to buy what they want us to have.

I have all my lightbulbs changed to the new ones, and I must say, even though they cost more...they last a heck of a lot longer.

As for Global Warming...yeah, I believe we have a lot to do with it, but I also think it's just nature changing like it does every 1000 years or so.

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atprm

they don't have to be flat screen tv's... none of our tv's are flat screen, and we have the converter boxes for each one... no problems. (they were $9.00 for the boxes after the coupon).

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Jolie Rouge

Since the invention of television, the broadcast were availble via the airwaves at ZERO cost to the consumers. WHY do we have to have the GOVERMENT REQUIRE ALL stations to broadcast in HD ??

Follow the money....

You will have to have the converter box ( mine suck !) *OR* PAY for cable, dish, satelite providers. WHY do we have to suddenly PURCHASE what has been free for the last 60 years ??

Another issue with this is the converter box has to have electricy to work. When all the power, cable, phones ect were down after Gustav, we were able to use a small emergancy TV that worked by battery or solar power to watch broadcast newscasts. After Febuary this will no longer be an option. WHY ? In the event of a widespread disaster ( hurricane, tornado, flood, earthquake ect .... ) people NEED access to information; access that is being limited and controlled by the goverment at the behest of Lobbyist and Big Money Corps.


Not only that but they use MERCURY - very bad for the "enviroment". Read the label... if the bulb breaks you are to get pregnant women, small children, the elderly and sick out of the area until the contamination is cleaned up. You practically have to callin a Hazmat Team. You can even be fined big bucks if you just drop it into your garbage can... it has to be specially disposed of .... more $$$

I have been discussing some of these issues in another thread.


Carbon credits ??? : Do you know who has a controlling intrest in the largest corporation SELLING "carbon credits" ?? None other then the Green Guru himself ... Al Gore.

It is all a big scam.... FOLLOW THE MONEY.

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SLance68

Jolie - no one ever mentions how you are suppose to dispose of those lamps for a reason - IT IS EXPENSIVE. I work for a Electrical Contractor and I hate it when we do a remodel job (schools & large commercial jobs) and I have to have all the fluorescent lamps disposed of - it ain't cheap or free by a long shot.

The funny part is - don't bother switching to fluorescents yet - wait a year or 2 and get LED's. That is the next thing down the pike and they are suppose to last at least 10 years. I don't think they have mercury in them - haven't read up on all of the specs yet. But they are expensive as all get out right now.

Jolie Rouge

"Ain't that America..." San Fran style *snort*

Incandescent light bulbs are going bye bye

The "How Many Legislators Does it Take to Change a Lightbulb Act"

Global Warming

The rules according to Kennedy


The Church of Global Warming Adds Another Mortal Sin

Just when you thought Al Gore’s head couldn’t get any bigger…

What is *YOUR* Effect on "Global Warming" ? Carbon footprint calculator ...

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3lilpigs

I'm talking about if you have to buy a new one. Then you HAVE to buy a flat screen......that's all there is anymore. And they aren't cheap. My 32'' that I bought about 6 yrs ago, cost me $499. Now they run approx $699- $799.

Eventually, you will need a new tv, right??

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atprm

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there are still tons of them here -- Kmart, Sears, JCPenney, etc still have the large tv's as well as LCD's or Plasma's.

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atprm

hmmm I had no idea that you couldn't just toss them out... that is what I have done forever...if they are burned out, into the trash they go.


But, I am not sold on florescent -- matter of fact, I can't stand them...so I guess I will start stockpiling regular light bulbs now and hold out for LED lights.

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3lilpigs

Those are TYPES of flat screen tv's.

The 'tube' tv is on it's way out, and now we're being forced to buy 'flat screen/flat panel' tv's.

http://www.ineed2know.org/products/flatscreen-tv.htm

What is a Flat Screen TV?

A flat screen TV display is a flat panel. There are two kinds of flat screen displays: plasma and LCD. Their screens are usually less than four inches thick.

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atprm

well we aren't "forced" to buy LCD's or plasmas -- they still make regular tvs, including the "curved" screen displays.

our livingroom tv is less than 6 months old, and is a "curved" glass monster, is not hdtv and weighs more than 50 pounds (37 inch).

That is what I was saying -- they still make and sell the large tv's and you do not have to buy lcd or plasma...


No -- a flat screen tv is NOT a flat panel tv. they are not the same thing and the terms can not be interchanged.

When someone talks about a flat screen, they generally mean a television or computer monitor with a traditional CRT but a flat display screen.

Although people may sometimes use the terms differently, in general, a flat panel TV or computer monitor is one where the entire television is only a few inches deep. It is thin and lightweight and uses either LCD (Liquid Crystal Display) or plasma technology, as opposed to the traditional CRT (Cathode Ray Tube).

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