The coming liberal thugocracy - Big Big Forums

DrHolliday · 10-13-2008, 05:00 PM

Yeah, change is probably coming...but not for the better.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008...gocracy/print/

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I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors," Barack Obama told a crowd in Elko, Nev. "I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face." Actually, Obama supporters are doing a lot more than getting into people's faces. They seem determined to shut people up.

That's what Obama supporters, alerted by campaign e-mails, did when conservative Stanley Kurtz appeared on Milt Rosenberg's WGN radio program in Chicago. Mr. Kurtz had been researching Mr. Obama's relationship with unrepentant Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers in Chicago Annenberg Challenge papers in the Richard J. Daley Library in Chicago - papers that were closed off to him for some days, apparently at the behest of Obama supporters.

Obama fans jammed WGN's phone lines and sent in hundreds of protest e-mails. The message was clear to anyone who would follow Mr. Rosenberg's example. We will make trouble for you if you let anyone make the case against The One.

Other Obama supporters have threatened critics with criminal prosecution. In September, St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch and St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce warned citizens that they would bring criminal libel prosecutions against anyone who made statements against Mr. Obama that were "false." I had been under the impression that the Alien and Sedition Acts had gone out of existence in 1801-'02. Not so, apparently, in metropolitan St. Louis. Similarly, the Obama campaign called for a criminal investigation of the American Issues Project when it ran ads highlighting Mr. Obama's ties to Mr. Ayers.

These attempts to shut down political speech have become routine for liberals. Congressional Democrats sought to reimpose the "fairness doctrine" on broadcasters, which until it was repealed in the 1980s required equal time for different points of view. The motive was plain: to shut down the one conservative-leaning communications medium, talk radio. Liberal talk-show hosts have mostly failed to draw audiences, and many liberals can't abide having citizens hear contrary views.

To their credit, some liberal old-timers - like House Appropriations Chairman David Obey - voted against the "fairness doctrine," in line with their longstanding support of free speech. But you can expect the "fairness doctrine" to get another vote if Barack Obama wins and Democrats increase their congressional majorities.

Corporate liberals have done their share in shutting down anti-liberal speech, too. "Saturday Night Live" ran a spoof of the financial crisis that skewered Democrats like House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank and liberal contributors Herbert and Marion Sandler, who sold toxic-waste-filled Golden West to Wachovia Bank for $24 billion. Kind of surprising, but not for long. The tape of the broadcast disappeared from NBC's Web site and was replaced with another that omitted the references to Mr. Frank and the Sandlers. Evidently NBC and its parent, General Electric, don't want people to hear speech that attacks liberals.

Then there's the Democrats' "card check" legislation that would abolish secret ballot elections in determining whether employees are represented by unions. The unions' strategy is obvious: Send a few thugs over to employees' homes - we know where you live - and get them to sign cards that will trigger a union victory without giving employers a chance to be heard.

Once upon a time, liberals prided themselves, with considerable reason, as the staunchest defenders of free speech. Union organizers in the 1930s and 1940s made the case that they should have access to employees to speak freely to them, and union leaders like George Meany and Walter Reuther were ardent defenders of the First Amendment.

Today's liberals seem to be taking their marching orders from other quarters. Specifically, from the college and university campuses where administrators, armed with speech codes, have for years been disciplining and subjecting to sensitivity training any students who dare to utter thoughts that liberals find offensive. The campuses that once prided themselves as zones of free expression are now the least free part of our society.

Obama supporters who found the campuses congenial and Mr. Obama himself, who has chosen to live all his adult life in university communities, seem to find it entirely natural to suppress speech they don't like and seem utterly oblivious to claims this violates the letter and spirit of the First Amendment. In this campaign, we have seen the coming of the Obama thugocracy, suppressing free speech, and we may see its flourishing in the four or eight years ahead.

jbbarn · 10-13-2008, 05:26 PM

It just looks worse and worse! I for one will be prepared to go down fighting any way I can!

janelle · 10-13-2008, 07:28 PM

Anyone with a college student notices how liberal they become while in school. Once they get out and into the job market they change a lot back to conservative. Once they have to live in the REAL world.

Seems Obama lived in the college world too long around liberal professors who make their living there. They can't be fired when they reach tenure.

speedygirl · 10-13-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by janelle

Anyone with a college student notices how liberal they become while in school. Once they get out and into the job market they change a lot back to conservative. Once they have to live in the REAL world.

Seems Obama lived in the college world too long around liberal professors who make their living there. They can't be fired when they reach tenure.

Yeah it's true if they don't have a mind of their own. Mine didn't turn into anything different then they were before college. I have one moderate and one conservative.

janelle · 10-13-2008, 07:35 PM

Go see, "American Carol" and see how they portray college professors. They morph into their younger years and they are pot smoking hippies protesting against the war. LOL, too true. Jon Voight was in the movie and he was one of those protestors but not now. He changed his mind. I posted his letter on here about where our country is headed with a liberal president.

DrHolliday · 10-13-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jbbarn

It just looks worse and worse! I for one will be prepared to go down fighting any way I can!

Well, I just bought another .38 for the wifey.

SurferGirl · 10-14-2008, 04:02 AM

Has anyone notice that many things seem to be missing from the internet lately? I'm talking about articles that were there only a week or two ago.
It appears that even youtube when you go to view something, many times it says it has been removed. The world under Obama would be a really frightening place.

YNKYH8R · 10-14-2008, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by janelle

Go see, "American Carol" and see how they portray college professors. They morph into their younger years and they are pot smoking hippies protesting against the war. LOL, too true. Jon Voight was in the movie and he was one of those protestors but not now. He changed his mind. I posted his letter on here about where our country is headed with a liberal president.

You really love that film huh? I thought the concept was merely funny...you just up and ran with it.

SurferGirl · 10-14-2008, 04:08 AM

This link is really informative.
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/200...family-affair/
Obama, Ayers, Annenberg, and ACORN: a family affair?
August 21, 2008 by texasdarlin

By Judah Benjamin and TexasDarlin

Introduction

In the past few days, we’ve published three articles separately that now appear to possibly be connected. Comments and feedback from readers got us thinking, then digging. We’ve been trying to put the pieces of the puzzle together, but we haven’t been able to do that yet, not completely. So the purpose of this post is to set forth a few observations and questions. We hope to turn this into a longer follow-on story.

In a nutshell, we believe that there are links worth investigating between the Barack Obama campaign, William Ayers, the Annenbergs, and ACORN.

The three stories that may be connected in ways that we initially did not realize, are:

Obama’s Caucus Fraud Trick: how the delegates were “won”.

The Annenberg Files: ACCESS BLOCKED!

Obama, ACORN, Citizen Services Inc: False FEC Filings; and

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A Few Facts and Observations

First, keep in mind: Senator Obama was the first Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which was a Division, or Project, of the Annenberg Foundation.

William (Bill) Ayers, unrepentant Weather Underground terrorist and a friend of the Obamas, was instrumental in founding the Challenge, thanks to his ties to Mayor Richard Daley. The first Daley was also a pal of Thomas Ayers, Bill’s father, former CEO of ComEd (owned by Exelon).

[Incidentally, the current CEO of ComEd, Frank M. Clark, is a major money bundler for the Obama campaign.]

You’ll recall from Wednesday’s story that the Annenberg files have suddenly been locked down under mysterious circumstances, after a reporter was promised access.

Factcheck.org, used as a resource by so many who wish to “debunk” negative coverage of Obama, is also a Division, or Project, of the Annenberg Foundation.

You’ll recall that Factcheck was the second site to publish the now-suspect Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) reportedly received from the Obama campaign.

[The Annenberg Foundation and family has an interesting history that we may examine in more detail.]

Second, keep in mind that ACORN has received payments of nearly a million dollars from the Barack Obama Campaign in 2008, as NancyA reported on this blog Aug. 15. Apparently the payments were funneled through Citizens Services Inc., and may have been falsely reported to the FEC.

The Senator has been working with ACORN since his first days as a Community Organizer in Chicago:

“In 1992, Acorn Hired Mr. Obama To Run A Voter Registration Effort. He Later Became A Trainer For The Group, As Well As Its Lawyer In Election Law Cases.” (John Fund, Op-Ed, “Obama’s Liberal Shock Troops,” “The Wall Street Journal”, 7/12/08 )

and

“Representing ACORN, Obama And Other Attorneys Sued The State Of Illinois, Forcing It To Implement Federal “Motor Voter” Legislation That Makes It Easier For The Poor And Minorities To Register To Vote.” (”Some Cases Obama Worked On In His Career As An Attorney,” “The Associated Press”, 2/20/07). Hence again impartiality is not possible.

More Press Quotes on ACORN:

ma4angels · 10-14-2008, 05:18 AM

It will be a scary place if this man wins the election. God help us all.

DrHolliday · 10-14-2008, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SurferGirl

Has anyone notice that many things seem to be missing from the internet lately? I'm talking about articles that were there only a week or two ago.
It appears that even youtube when you go to view something, many times it says it has been removed. The world under Obama would be a really frightening place.

No kidding. He has his thugs stuffing the ballout box and attempting to intimidate law enforcement in Missouri.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIenDGSAdPA