I say prosecute the website owners, and the hackers (who they have IP's for!) - Page 2 - Big Big Forums

Jolie Rouge · 09-19-2008, 01:13 AM

Curiouser and curiouser ...

Thursday, September 18, 2008
FATHER OF HACKER Is Tennessee Dem State Rep!!!!!
Update: Name - David Kernell ...
Update: He's Been Contacted by Feds!

FOLKS--- MEET DAVID KERNELL---

Wired.com has the latest on the Palin scandal:
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/200...e-mail-ha.html

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...The story was briefly posted Wednesday to the 4chan forum where the hack first surfaced. Bloggers have connected the handle of the poster, "Rubico," to an e-mail address, and tentatively identified the owner as a college student in Tennessee.

Threat Level was unable to reach the student by phone because his number is unlisted. His father, when reached at home, said he could not talk about the matter and would have no comment. The father is a Democratic state representative in Tennessee.

Rubico 10's account has been closed on YouTube:

His Steam Community profile is marked private.

His Newground account is now blank, too.

Free Republic is on it. http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?ei=...icp=1&.intl=us

More on the Palin Hacker---

The password he chose for Palin’s email was popcorn.
Get it? Popcorn? Kernell? How very clever of him.

And apparently, someone’s even updated his Wiki page with this info! (It’s been deleted but is still viewable in the history tab).

More on Rubico10=David Kernell HERE. http://skirtsnotpantsuits.blogspot.c...hacker-is.html

His Wikipage has had a lot of revisions today. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...action=history

David Kernell has been contacted by federal agents.
Knox News reported: http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/se...alin-e-mail-p/

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The son of state Rep. Mike Kernell has been contacted by authorities in connection with a probe into the hacking of personal e-mail of vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, Kernell told The Tennessean.

Kernell, a Memphis Democrat, said his 20-year-old son David had been contacted by authorities investigating the hacking of Palin’s personal e-mail account, the newspaper reported on its Web site this afternoon.

The FBI and the Secret Service started a formal investigation Wednesday into the hacking, according to the Associated Press.

From Rep. Kernell, via Commercial Appeal: http://www.commercialappeal.com/news...ahoo_headlines

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In Nashville Thursday, Rep. Kernell would neither confirm nor deny his son had any involvement in hacking Palin’s e-mail account. Although Kernell said he was aware of the claims his son was responsible for hacking Palin’s e-mail, the politician would not address any of them.

“Father-son relationship,” Kernell explained.

The longtime legislator would not say whether rubico10@yahoo.com is his son’s e-mail address. “I can’t comment on my son,” he repeated.

Asked if he has been contacted by investigators, Kernell responded: “Me, no.”

“I can't say about my son,” he added. “That doesn't mean he has or hasn't been contacted.”

Does anyone else find it odd that 8 hours after this news broke on the internet and 7 hours after it was first reported at Knox News that the MSM is still silent on these developments?

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/20...dem-state.html

tngirl · 09-19-2008, 08:34 AM

No matter what, this was wrong and illegal.

atprm · 09-19-2008, 09:22 AM

figures --

posted by rubico10@yahoo.com:

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Earlier it was just some prank to me, I really wanted to get something incriminating which I was sure there would be, just like all of you anon out there that you think there was some missed opportunity of glory, well there WAS NOTHING, I read everything, every little blackberry confirmation… all the pictures, and there was nothing, and it finally set in, THIS internet was serious business, yes I was behind a proxy, only one, if this s**t ever got to the FBI I was f****d, I panicked, i still wanted the stuff out there but I didn’t know how to rapids**t all that stuff, so I posted the pass on /b/, and then promptly deleted everything, and unplugged my internet and just sat there in a comatose state

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after the password recovery was reenabled, it took seriously 45 mins on wikipedia and google to find the info, Birthday? 15 seconds on wikipedia, zip code? well she had always been from wasilla, and it only has 2 zip codes (thanks online postal service!)

the second was somewhat harder, the question was “where did you meet your spouse?” did some research, and apparently she had eloped with mister palin after college, if youll look on some of the screen****s that I took and other fellow anon have so graciously put on photobucket you will see the google search for “palin eloped” or some such in one of the tabs.

I found out later though more research that they met at high school, so I did variations of that, high, high school, eventually hit on “Wasilla high” I promptly changed the password to popcorn and took a cold shower…

Jolie Rouge · 09-20-2008, 12:26 AM

Confederate Yankee extends mercy to the kid with a depressive disorder who hacked Sarah Palin's Yahoo account. That is overly kind. Were this miscreant a Republican, he'd be tarred and feathered and we'd be hearing about how it's no wonder a Republican had problems with depression, but put him in jail with the same law used to oppress minorities and the disabled.

No. Throw the book at this rotten Democratic apple. It matters not that he's unstable. That's pretty much a given when you go hacking into a government official's private email. His father is in the government, surely he knows it's a no-no to monkey around in a government official's email. He had enough sense to pick out emails he perceived as most damaging to Sarah Palin, his frontal lobe is obviously functioning fine. It's his moral center that isn't working. Perhaps some time in jail will fix it.

But Confederate Yankee brings up a more important point:

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In the concerted effort to destroy Sarah Palin, her husband, and her children, we've seen the progressive blogosphere and professional media adopt the no-holds barred, street-fight viciousness of a community organizer fighting for scraps. The petty brutality has trickled down from the man they idolize, a man cool enough to befriend and use aging terrorists and racist ministers as they can help him, and callous enough to discard friendships decades old if it suits him, without a backward glance.

For all his eloquence behind a teleprompter, Barack Obama is still at heart a thug, and his disciples learned well from their master.

In Wasilla, Alaska, two Democratic National Committee "opposition researchers" are scouring the archives of the Palin's hometown paper for any hint of a scandal.

It will never stop.

Until it stops working.

Hope! Change!

Glenn Reynolds says:

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Reader Walter Boxx emails: "I can't vote in your Palin email account poll because you left off the only sensible answer. It is a serious issue (not Watergate though) but it will be treated like a juvenile prank by the press. In a day or two it will be off the news."

Yeah, if Obama's mail had been hacked it would be treated as an outrage and a sign of the growing thuggishness of political discourse, with demands for heads to roll -- and, notwithstanding his representations otherwise, I don't think Nick Denton would have run it, because he would have feared the consequences. But this is different, because Sarah Palin is a Republican.

UPDATED AGAIN: This is huge. Via Jim Hoft aka Gateway Pundit:

** MORE.... There is a connection between David Kernell and David Plouffe--- Barack Obama's Campaign Manager!
From a commenter at Terry Frank (who has screengrabs of David Kernell's Facebook page):

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There is an apparent connection between David Kernell and David Plouffe. If you do a Technorati search for "david kernell" (http://www.technorati.com/search/&#3...a4&language=en) and then click on Videos about David Kernell, the first video you see if of David Plouffe (Campaign manager for Obaman). He probably did the video for Plouffe.

This is not a casual connection.

Wow. Just wow.

Cross-posted at http://MelissaClouthier.com

http://rightwingnews.com/mt331/2008/..._congressm.php

katgirl3 · 09-20-2008, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by atprm

To me it wouldn't matter if it was Obama or McCain or Biden that this happened to...

I still say shut down the website now holding hostage the emails, all the personal photos, EVERYONE'S EMAIL ADDRESSES (that they have publicly posted) and prosecute the schit out of them.

How is what Gawker is doing now any different than anyone of us posting someone else's information on the net? It's the same -- STALKING.

I absolutely agree with you. This is B.S.

janelle · 09-20-2008, 01:48 AM

Dang, Nixon should have sent in a teenager to the Dem headquarters then no Watergate would have happened. It would have all been a teenage prank and over with in no time. Would have saved the taxpayers a ton of money.

janelle · 09-20-2008, 03:23 AM

Roger Stone: Attacks From the Left Help Palin

Thursday, September 18, 2008 4:22 PM

By: Ashley Martella Article Font Size

Political analyst Roger Stone calls the hacking of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin's personal email "highly illegal and highly outrageous."

"Clearly the left will stop at nothing to try to discredit Sarah Palin," he tells Newsmax TV. But Stone thinks the "constant and unfair attacks on her" are actually helping her.

"It's kind of ironic that the New York Times yesterday criticizes Palin and her top aides for using personal e-mails to conduct Alaska state business, yet when [former New York Gov.] Eliot Spitzer used personal emails to conceal his misuse of the state police, the New York Times said not a thing," he notes.

VIDEO: Roger Stone Says Attacks From the Left Will Help Palin

Stone calls that an "obvious double standard," but he doesn't think it's achieving the left's desired results.

"The good news is that I think the American people are very fair-minded and I think they're seeing through this. Clearly, she's still more popular than Barack Obama and I don't expect that to change. I really think there's some anti-media, big media sentiment in the country and frankly since the invention of the Internet, people can now get alternative information from places like Newsmax; they don't have to believe what they see on CBS or the New York Times," he said.

Should the hackers be prosecuted if they're caught?

"There's no question. This is an egregious violation of federal law; it's a political outrage and if they can track down who did this, I think they ought to be indicted, convicted and jailed," he said.

Stone thinks the reaction of the McCain campaign to the hacking has been appropriate.

"It's time for law enforcement to step in and see who did this. Their motives are absolutely clear. This is part of a smear. What I find interesting is the actual contents of the emails seem relatively benign: Governor Palin merely doing her job. How many other governors, like Palin, like Spitzer, use personal emails for state business? Most of them do," he declared.

Stone also has some thoughts on the increasing attacks and negativity in Obama's new campaign ads.

"The reason that Obama is getting increasingly negative — and new figures came out today show 77 percent of his advertising has been attacks on John McCain and Sarah Palin so far — is because he's beginning to lose," Stone says.

"People are taking a close look at Barack Obama and they're not liking what they see. This is a guy with a great bio and resume but no accomplishments, no significant legislation, no significant accomplishments," he says.

LuvBigRip · 09-22-2008, 02:19 PM

FBI searches apartment in Palin hacking case By LARA JAKES JORDAN
50 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - The FBI searched the residence of the son of a Democratic state lawmaker in Tennessee over the weekend looking for evidence linking the young man to the hacking of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin's personal e-mail account, two law enforcement officials told The Associated Press on Monday.

David Kernell, 20, has not returned repeated phone calls or e-mails from the AP since last week. He is the son of state Rep. Mike Kernell, a Memphis Democrat and chairman of Tennessee's House Government Operations Committee. The father declined last week to discuss the possibility his son might be involved in the case.

"I had nothing to do with it, I had no knowledge or anything," Mike Kernell told the AP. "I was not a party to anything of this nature at all," he said. "I wasn't in on this — and I wouldn't know how to do anything like that."

A hacker last week broke into one of the Yahoo Inc. e-mail accounts that Palin uses, revealing as evidence a few inconsequential personal messages she has received since John McCain selected her as his running mate. The McCain campaign confirmed the break-in and called it a "shocking invasion of the governor's privacy and a violation of law."

Palin used "gov.sarah" in one of her Yahoo e-mail addresses she sometimes uses to conduct state business. The hacker targeted her separate "gov.palin" account.

After the break-in, a person claiming responsibility published a detailed chronology of the hacking on the Web site where the break-in was first revealed. That person identified his e-mail address as one that has been linked publicly to David Kernell.

Experts said the hacker apparently left an easy trail for investigators.

"He might as well have taken a picture of his house and uploaded it," said Ken Pfeil, an Internet security expert. "He should have just set up a big beacon that said, 'Here's my house,' or confessed. If they can't catch this guy based on all the information posted on the Web then all bets are off."

The hacker described guessing correctly that Alaska's governor had met her husband in high school, and knew Palin's date of birth and home Zip code. Using those details, the hacker tricked Yahoo's service into assigning a new password, "popcorn," for Palin's e-mail account. What started as a prank was cut short because of panic over the possibility the FBI might investigate, the hacker wrote.

The FBI and Secret Service are now investigating.

The law enforcement officials confirming the search spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the investigation.

In Washington, Justice Department spokeswoman Laura Sweeney confirmed Monday only that the FBI conducted "investigative activity" late Saturday and early Sunday in Knoxville related to the case.

David Kernell is an economics major at the University of Tennessee there.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080922/...RIHs5ij5is0NUE

Jolie Rouge · 10-09-2008, 12:53 AM

Son of Tenn. Democrat indicted in Palin hackingp
By DUNCAN MANSFIELD, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 40 minutes ago

KNOXVILLE, Tenn. - The son of a Democratic Tennessee state lawmaker pleaded not guilty Wednesday to hacking the e-mail account of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

David Kernell, 20, of Knoxville, Tenn. entered the plea in federal court in Knoxville, the same day prosecutors unsealed an indictment charging him with intentionally accessing Palin's e-mail account without authorization.

Kernell, an economics student at the University of Tennessee, was brought into court wearing handcuffs and shackles on his ankles.

He was released without posting bond, but the court limited his computer use to checking his own e-mail and doing class work.

Kernell's father is longtime state Rep. Mike Kernell of Memphis, chairman of Tennessee's House Government Operations Committee. The lawmaker has said he had nothing to do with the hacking incident.

David Kernell was indicted Tuesday by a federal grand jury in Knoxville and faces a maximum of five years in prison, a $250,000 fine and three years of supervised release. Trial is set for Dec. 16.

The investigation is continuing. The indictment said at least one other person successfully reset Palin's e-mail password and accessed her e-mail account after the hacker named "rubico," whom the government contends is Kernell, posted his exploits on the Web.

"I wouldn't say specifically whether that other individual may be charged or not," Justice Department spokeswoman Laura Sweeney said from Washington.

U.S. Magistrate Judge C. Clifford Shirley restricted Kernell from discussing the case with any potential witnesses, which include his roommates.

Kernell was also restricted from having any contact directly or indirectly with the Alaska governor or her family.

Shirley warned that if Kernell violated any part of his release conditions, he would be held until the trial.

Kernell's attorney, Wade Davies, accompanied his client in court.

"As soon as we found out about the charges this morning, David voluntarily turned himself in," said Davies, who refused to answer any other questions.

The indictment alleges that on Sept. 16 Kernell reset the password to Palin's personal e-mail account to gain access to it. Authorities say Kernell then read the contents of the account and made screenshots of the e-mail directory, e-mail content and other personal information, later posting some of the information to a public Web site.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081009/...OipasNfdhh24cA

atprm · 10-09-2008, 02:15 AM

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He was released without posting bond, but the court limited his computer use to checking his own e-mail and doing class work.

why was he released without posting bond??? Oh yeah... this is why...

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Kernell's father is longtime state Rep. Mike Kernell of Memphis, chairman of Tennessee's House Government Operations Committee.

Privilege -- kind of sounds like crap that celebrities pull --

in the end, someone will pull a "favor" and this kid will get 1 hour of community service because of who his daddy is.

speedygirl · 10-09-2008, 02:22 AM

What a little turd! He should get the same punishment that you or I would get if we did something like that.