View Poll Results: Most Effective Way to Deal With Illegal Immigrant Already in the US ? ?

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  • Provide a way for them to gain citizenship

    11 15.94%
  • Provide Amensty

    0 0%
  • Put them on on bus/plane/train back HOME

    54 78.26%
  • Don't know - Don't care

    4 5.80%
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessArky View Post
    I wonder how the rich ppl and companies hiring all the illegals are gonna like it when they are finally here for good legally.........BECAUSE then they will NOT work for small wages, they will walk out until they get more money. They always say that they work for so little and never complain (I sort of missed that part when they were taking off work and protesting in OUR streets) Once they have more options they will be the biggest strikers of this country wait and see. At least they will effect the rich.........oh no wait that will effect me too mine be able to find a job that will pay me enough to cover a baby sitter and gas lol
    That a damn good point!

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    In "honor" of May Day... http://www.bigbigforums.com/news-inf...l#post95872569

    View Poll Results: Most Effective Way to Deal With Illegal Immigrants Already in the US ? ?

    Provide a way for them to gain citizenship 9 - 17.31%

    Provide Amensty 0 - 0%

    Put them on on bus/plane/train back HOME 39 - 75.00%

    Don't know - Don't care 4 - 7.69%

    Voters: 52.
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    Quote Originally Posted by okie View Post
    I voted to send them back home.
    same here.

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    I just voted too --

    send their asses back to the place they came from -- be that the middle east, the far east or mexico.
    2 days from now, tomorrow will be yesterday.

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    I say send them back, I'll even pitch in for a bus ticket.

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    I'll buy a ticket also. It will be cheaper in the long run to do that.
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    Can you imagine if each citizen in this country offered to pay for a ticket home? Lets do the math, 300 million people in the US, 20 million (high estimate to be safe) I think we have it covered.
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    Mark Krikorian of CIS nails it regarding today's "Gang of 8" dog-and-pony amnesty show by Rubio, McCain, Schumer, Durbin and Menendez: "Eight members of the World’s Greatest Deliberative Body have labored for months and delivered unto us — Bush’s amnesty plan." Don't be fooled by McCain's usual lies and Rubio's slippery tongue. This is the SAME amnesty we defeated in 2007, repackaged and resold as "comprehensive reform". McCain admitted exactly that today when he said “You will find that this agreement has very little difference from that of the legislation that was led by Sen. Kennedy (in 2007).” Yes, they think we are stupid. But we are not, and we will defeat this blanket amnesty once again.

    They Think We’re Stupid
    By Mark Krikorian - January 28, 2013 10:54 A.M.

    Eight members of the World’s Greatest Deliberative Body have labored for months and delivered unto us — Bush’s amnesty plan. I can at least respect the Democrat members of this cabal — Schumer, Durbin, Menendez, and Bennet — because the Left has never hidden its disdain for America’s sovereignty. But the Republicans — McCain, Graham, Flake, and Rubio — want to achieve the Left’s objectives while appearing tough. McCain pushed amnesty for many years, then pretended to have a change of heart while running for president, and is now back where he’s always been. The Tampa Bay Times has traced Rubio’s own back-and-forth on the issue:http://www.tampabay.com/news/politic...cle1272437.ece

    He was seen as a moderate during his time in the Florida Legislature, supporting a move to give in-state tuition to illegal immigrants. While he was speaker of the House, a number of bills calling for hard-hitting enforcement died. But as he ran for Senate in 2009 and 2010, rising with the tea party, he began to reflect the politics of the moment.

    Rubio embraced the Arizona immigration law (after first criticizing it), opposed counting illegal immigrants in the census and came out against the Dream Act, which would have created a pathway to citizenship for young immigrants. He also said he opposed the 2007 comprehensive immigration reform effort, which McCain and Florida Sen. Mel Martinez helped craft.
    We rightly never believed Obama’s claim to have been opposed to gay marriage before suddenly changing his mind. Why would we believe the same philosophical gymnastics from our own team?

    As for the outline (it’s not a fully realized bill), it’s a “festival of legislative gimmickry” http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/28/the-rubio-con/ (in Mickey Kaus’s words) that represents the same tired package of immediate amnesty for all illegals plus huge increases in future immigration, all in exchange for promises of enforcement that should already be happening anyway. The most transparently ridiculous enforcement promise is this:

    Our legislation will require the completion of an entry-exit system that tracks whether all persons entering the United States on temporary visas via airports and seaports have left the country as required by law.
    As I’ve already noted, http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...mark-krikorian Congress required “the completion of an entry-exit system” in 1996 and it still hasn’t happened. But it gets worse; as this GAO report spells out http://www.gao.gov/assets/280/272939.pdf (see Appendix II), Congress has required the completion of the system six times! Will the seventh time be the charm? And if, as we all know will happen, the entry-exit system still isn’t completed, will the “provisional” amnesty that illegal aliens received immediately upon applying be revoked? Of course not.

    The illustrious predecessors of the Gang of Eight — Clay and Webster, Taft and LaFollette, Goldwater and McCarthy — must be cringing in shame at what scoundrels have succeeded them.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...ark-krikorian#

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    The GOP contingent here was McCain, Graham, Rubio, Flake... Seriously?!

    Two of them are decades-long die-hard amnesty fans (McCain, Graham); another is their younger version (Rubio); the fourth is an anti-sovereignty libertarian (Flake).

    If this is what the GOP serves us, we'd just as well move on and abandon the "Grand Old Party" and found a less-grand, more-intelligent new party. I'd ask, "Who's looking out for conservatives' interests?" - but the real question is: "Who's looking out for Americans' interests?"

    I feel like Charlie Brown kicking the football, with the craven, short-sighted GOP leadership too unaware of citizens' interests and our national interest to keep the ball held up.

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    You know you're country is gone when those in charge are more concerned about accommodating illegal non-citizens than its citizens.

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    They don't think you and other informed opponents of amnesty are stupid with regard to their proposal. What they count on is that the voters will be kept ignorant of an informed consideration of what they propose by a news media that has demonstrated its intention to collaborate. And if the informed opponents of amnesty fail to recognize and address the fundamental obstacle to achieving sensible immigration policy that the news media represents, maybe they are stupid.

    The Democrats in general, not just the four in this group, are not going look the gift horse of illegal immigration demographics in the face. While there are those in the party that fear the potential political consequences if they were to act alone, they need not worry with the cover of bi-partisanship. If Republicans don't coalesce behind stopping this nonsense, if only for their own survival and not because it's the right thing to do, there is no one to speak for the citizens of this country who want immigration limited and legal.



    See also : http://www.bigbigforums.com/news-inf...ems-south.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolie Rouge View Post
    In "honor" of May Day... http://www.bigbigforums.com/news-inf...l#post95872569

    View Poll Results: Most Effective Way to Deal With Illegal Immigrants Already in the US ? ?

    Provide a way for them to gain citizenship 9 - 17.31%

    Provide Amensty 0 - 0%

    Put them on on bus/plane/train back HOME 39 - 75.00%

    Don't know - Don't care 4 - 7.69%

    Voters: 52.

    Most Effective Way to Deal With Illegal Immigrant Already in the US ? ?

    Provide a way for them to gain citizenship -- 10 = 14.93%

    Provide Amensty --- 0 = 0%

    Put them on on bus/plane/train back HOME -- 53 = 79.10%

    Don't know - Don't care --- 4 = 5.97%


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolie Rouge View Post
    See : http://www.bigbigforums.com/news-inf...-director.html


    Mark Krikorian of CIS nails it regarding today's "Gang of 8" dog-and-pony amnesty show by Rubio, McCain, Schumer, Durbin and Menendez: "Eight members of the World’s Greatest Deliberative Body have labored for months and delivered unto us — Bush’s amnesty plan."

    Why was this creep on the stage today, leading the amnesty dog-and-pony show? Why isn't he in a jail cell, or at the very least censured by his fellow Senators? The same slimebag who hired an ILLEGAL ALIEN SEX OFFENDER to work in his office - and got the DOJ to keep it quiet until after the election (http://bit.ly/UE2I7W), has now apparently been busted banging underage prostitutes in the Dominican Republic - a Federal felony under the 'PROTECT Act'. Yet there he was standing next to Rubio and McCain arrogantly telling US what must be the "law" - seemingly immune from his own lawless and depraved actions - and NOT ONE QUESTION from the media about it! It's cr-p like this that makes me think of the last days of the Roman Empire. Despicable. http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/25/em...prostitutes/2/
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    Amnesty gang to law-abiders: You’re chumps!
    By Michelle Malkin • January 30, 2013 12:47 AM



    President Obama and the bipartisan Gang of Eight in Washington who want to create a “pathway to citizenship” for millions of illegal aliens have sent a message loud and clear to those who follow the rules: You’re chumps!

    Have you patiently waited for months and years for the State Department and Department of Homeland Security to slog through your application? You’re chumps!

    Have you paid thousands of dollars in travel, legal and medical fees to abide by the thicket of entry, employment, health and processing regulations? You’re chumps!

    Have you studied for your naturalization test, taken the oath of allegiance to heart, embraced our time-tested principle of the rule of law, and demonstrated that you will be a financially independent, productive citizen? You’re chumps!

    Unrepentant amnesty peddlers on both sides of the aisle admit their plan is all about votes and power. Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain continues his craven, futile chase for the Hispanic bloc. Illinois Democratic Rep. Luis Gutierrez is openly salivating at the prospect of millions of new illegal aliens — future Democratic Party dependents of the Nanny State — who could be eligible for Obamacare and a plethora of other government benefits despite clear prohibitions against them.

    These cynical pols insist that the rest of law-abiding Americans and law-abiding permanent residents must support Washington’s push to “do something” because “11 million people are living in the shadows.”

    To which I say: So? There are 23 million Americans out of work. Why aren’t they Washington’s top priority anymore? Didn’t both parties once pledge that j-o-b-s for unemployed and underemployed Americans was Job No. 1? Why is the very first major legislative push of 2013 another mass amnesty/voter drive/entitlement expansion?

    If Washington is really concerned about people “living in the shadows,” how about prioritizing the jaw-dropping backlog of 500,000-plus fugitive deportee cases. These are more than a half-million illegal aliens who have been apprehended, who had their day in immigration court, who have been ordered to leave the country, and who were then released and absconded into the ether. Poof!

    After the 9/11 terrorist attacks, pols pretended to get serious about fixing the broken deportation system and enacted absconder apprehension initiatives to track down these national security risks. But over the past dozen years, only 100,000 out of 600,000-plus fugitive illegal aliens targeted by the program have been found. Why isn’t the search and removal of these repeat offenders more important than giving “11 million people living in the shadows” a “pathway to citizenship”?

    Question: If border security and immigration enforcement are truly a priority to our elected officials, why must these two basic government responsibilities be tethered to benefits for line-jumping illegal aliens? See whether any politician can answer without sputtering about “11 million people living in the shadows” or invoking the over-worn race card.

    (By the way, we all know that moldy “11 million” statistic can’t be right. Open borders groups have cited it for nearly 15 years as amnesty measure after amnesty measure attracted new generations of illegal aliens to the country.)

    You know who else deserves more attention and compassion than “11 million people living in the shadows”? The 4.6 million individuals around the world who legally applied for sponsored green cards and followed the established legal immigration process. They’ve been shunted aside while the Obama administration ushers illegal alien “DREAM” waiver winners to the front of the line.

    As Jessica Vaughan of the Center for Immigration Studies points out: “It is clear that there is no way the roughly one million or more potential Dreamers can be accommodated by (the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service) without noticeably slowing down the processing of legal immigrants (emphasis added). The agency already processes six million applications a year without the amnesty add-ons.

    There have been nearly a dozen major amnesty laws, affecting at least five million illegal aliens, passed since the Reagan 1986 amnesty. These beneficiaries and their families have crowded out legal immigrants and increased their application waiting times in untold ways. GOP Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas asked the Obama administration last summer to disclose data on how much the DREAM waiver amnesty alone has affected adjudication/processing times for everyone else. The White House has failed to answer the request.

    Want a reality check? Not one of the past federal amnesties was associated with a decline in illegal immigration. Instead, the number of illegal aliens in the U.S. has tripled since 1986. The total effect of the amnesties was even larger because relatives later joined amnesty recipients, and this number was multiplied by an unknown number of children born to amnesty recipients who then acquired automatic U.S. citizenship.

    Hopelessly naive (or stubbornly self-deluded) freshman GOP Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida insists that any new recipients of the Gang of Eight’s Grand Pander scheme will have to “go to the back of the line and wait behind everybody who applied before them, the right way.” Rubio emphasizes to conservative talk show hosts that there will be background checks and rigorous vetting.

    But as I’ve reported for the past two decades, the background check process has been corrupted under both Democratic and Republican administrations. In the 1990s, the Clinton administration turned immigration policy into a massive Democratic voter recruitment machine through the Citizenship USA program. Naturalization officers simply abandoned background checks wholesale. In 2003, an INS center in Laguna Niguel solved the massive backlog problem by putting tens of thousands of applications through a shredder. And in 2006, I exposed how some high-immigrant regions rewarded adjudication officers with bonuses for rubber-stamping as many applications as possible without regard to security.

    You want “comprehensive immigration reform”? Start with reliable adjudications, fully cleared backlogs, consistent interior enforcement, working background checks for the existing caseload, and efficient and effective deportation policies that punish law-breakers and do right by law-abiders.

    And please don’t pretend that piling millions of new illegal aliens onto an already overwhelmed system is going to fix a darned thing. Chumps.

    http://michellemalkin.com/2013/01/30...-youre-chumps/
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