Gunmand killed at Trolley Square mall in Salt Lake city Utah! - Big Big Forums

hdlzx2 · 02-12-2007, 11:20 PM

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Jolie Rouge · 02-13-2007, 12:31 AM

Why do peopel do stuff like this ??

Deaths reported in Utah mall shooting
19 minutes ago

SALT LAKE CITY - A gunman entered a shopping mall and began randomly shooting Monday night, hitting several people before he was killed, police said. "There have been multiple victims and there are some fatalities. ... I can't confirm the number," police Detective Robin Snyder said outside the Trolley Square Mall. "The suspect has been killed," she said.

Antique store owner Barrett Dodds, 29, said he saw a man in a trench coat exchanging gunfire with a police officer outside a card store. The gunman was backed into a children's clothing store, he said. "I saw the cops go in the store. I saw the shooter go down," said Dodds, who watched from the second floor.

Barb McKeown, 60, of Washington, D.C., was in another antique shop when two frantic women ran in and reported gunshots. "Then we heard shot after shot after shot — loud, loud, loud," said McKeown, saying she heard about 20. She and three other people hid under a staircase until it was safe to leave.

The two-story mall, southeast of downtown, is a refurbished trolley barn, with a series of winding hallways and about 80 stores.

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Man kills 3 at Philly business meeting
By DAN ROBRISH, Associated Press Writer
6 minutes ago

PHILADELPHIA - A gunman fatally shot three men at a business meeting before committing suicide Monday night in an office building at the old Philadelphia Navy Yard, police said.

The gunman appeared to get upset at a board of directors meeting for a company that might have been an investment firm, Deputy Commissioner Richard Ross said. Police were unsure of the name of the company.

The gunman shot himself, authorities said. Another man was critically injured, and two others were present but not shot.

The shooting took place in a conference room in a business at the Philadelphia Naval Business Center, police said. Ross described the scene inside the conference room as "utter chaos."

"This is a tragic situation," Ross said, "one you never hope will hit Philadelphia."

Police received a 911 call at about 8:30 p.m. reporting a shooting in a building at the business park formerly known as the Navy Yard.

The gunman, who had a semiautomatic handgun, got into an argument about "some issue about money" with others at the board meeting, police said.

After the gunman shot the men in the conference room, he shot at police, who returned fire. The gunman then went behind a door and shot himself, police said.

The two men who were not shot had been bound with duct tape, officials said.

The Philadelphia Navy Shipyard was one of the Navy's busiest shipbuilders during World War II, but since those years, much of the commercial shipbuilding industry has moved to Japan and South Korea, where production costs are lower.

After 1970, the yard only refurbished military vessels, and it closed in 1995.

Two years later, Kvaerner resumed commercial shipbuilding in a portion of the shipyard, and other areas have been converted for business and office use.

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hdlzx2 · 02-13-2007, 09:39 AM

new stuff:
6 dead incluing the gunman, gunman...18years old....

Jolie Rouge · 02-13-2007, 09:57 AM

hdlzx2 - is this anywhere near you ?

hdlzx2 · 02-13-2007, 10:30 AM

20 minutes away via the freeway...me and my family far away from any danger...but we watched the tragedy unfold on tv all evening...sad story, I'm hoping that I don't know anybody affected...

amysusi · 02-13-2007, 11:15 AM

I'm about that far away too, though not by freeway. I am still shaken up.

hdlzx2 · 02-13-2007, 06:17 PM

the 16yr old boy that is in critical condition is from Bingham...

Jolie Rouge · 02-13-2007, 07:07 PM

Officer may have prevented more deaths
By PAUL FOY, Associated Press Writer
18 minutes ago

SALT LAKE CITY - An off-duty police officer having an early Valentine's Day dinner with his wife was credited Tuesday with helping stop a rampage in a crowded shopping mall by an 18-year-old gunman who shot five people to death before he was killed by police.

A day after the shooting, investigators struggled to figure out why a trench-coated Sulejmen Talovic opened fire on shoppers with a supremely calm look on his face.

The teenager wanted to "to kill a large number of people" and probably would have killed many more if not for the off-duty officer, Police Chief Chris Burbank said.

Ken Hammond, an off-duty officer from Ogden, north of Salt Lake City, jumped up from his seat at a restaurant after hearing gunfire and cornered the gunman, exchanging fire with him until other officers arrived, Burbank said.

"There is no question that his quick actions saved the lives of numerous other people," the police chief said.

Police said it was not immediately clear who fired the shot that killed Talovic.

Talovic had a backpack full of ammunition, a shotgun and a .38-caliber pistol, police said. Investigators knew little about Talovic, except than he lived in Salt Lake City with his mother, the police chief said. He was enrolled in numerous city schools before withdrawing in 2004, the school district said.

Talovic drove to the Trolley Square shopping center — a century-old former trolley barn with winding hallways, brick floors and wrought-iron balconies, and immediately killed two people, followed by a third victim as he came through a door, Burbank said. Five other people were then shot in a gift shop, he said.

Four people who were wounded remained hospitalized Tuesday, two in critical condition, two in serious.

Outside the mall, candles and flowers were left as memorials to the victims, who were identified as Jeffrey Walker, 52, Vanessa Quinn, 29, Kirsten Hinkley, 15, Teresa Ellis, 29, and Brad Frantz, 24.

Hammond's boss, Ogden Police Chief Jon Greiner, said the state Senate wants to honor him.

"Thank goodness he was there," said Greiner, who is also a state senator. "You don't want to ever say it's good we were there and killed somebody, but it's probably good someone was there."

Accountant Jeff Barlow was on a date at a restaurant when he looked outside and saw the gunman firing from the hip.

"I thought it was some kind of joke — some kind of movie or stunt," Barlow said. "I didn't believe it was happening. And then I saw a man go down in a courtyard. I realized this was serious. These are real bullets flying around."

His date, Stephanie Bronson, added: "Just crazy. Absolutely terrifying."

David Dean, who owns a greeting-card store at the mall, said three or four people died inside his store, which was packed with Valentine's Day shoppers.

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Associated Press writers Doug Alden, Jennifer Dobner and Debbie Hummel contributed to this story.

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hdlzx2 · 02-13-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hdlzx2

the 16yr old boy that is in critical condition is from Bingham...

...his father was killed...
He (his son)was in my daughter's math class.....

amysusi · 02-13-2007, 10:12 PM

I thought about you when they said he went to Bingham. I hope he makes a full recovery.

I have been going between fighting tears and just feeling sick all day. Then I feel bad because I don't know anyone that was involved, so what right do I have to grieve?

YankeeMary · 02-13-2007, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by amysusi

I thought about you when they said he went to Bingham. I hope he makes a full recovery.

I have been going between fighting tears and just feeling sick all day. Then I feel bad because I don't know anyone that was involved, so what right do I have to grieve?

You have compassion and respect for life that gives you the right to grieve. I wish more would grieve over the loss of human life.