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freeby4me · 12-11-2006, 01:07 PM

I walk my son to school everyday and we have probably 10 dogs who live inside/outside in the 5 blocks from my house to the school and all of them are either tied up or fenced in MOST of the time. There are lots of other kids who walk and I am terrified of one of them being attacked. I have had dogs run at me teeth bared growling and try to bite me and they only back off when I try and kick them and run after them (They still follow me but at a small distance) Some of these kids are in first grade and they cannot fight off an animal that equals their weight. When dogs get loose they act differently than when they're at home. So many of these people think their dogs are just fine and they could be but why take that chance?? Its stories like this that make people not like pit bulls and boxer dogs ect. You cant argue that they are safe when stuff like this happens. Yes, Small dogs can bite you and they can injure you but they wont literally rip your arm off or kill you.

Njean31 · 12-11-2006, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by freeby4me

Yes, Small dogs can bite you and they can injure you but they wont literally rip your arm off or kill you.

you got that right

i hear that dumb old arugement all the time too! a poodle or a yorkie, heck...even a pack of them can not rip your arm off or knock you down and go for your neck.

Njean31 · 12-11-2006, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by freeby4me

I walk my son to school everyday and we have probably 10 dogs who live inside/outside in the 5 blocks from my house to the school and all of them are either tied up or fenced in MOST of the time. There are lots of other kids who walk and I am terrified of one of them being attacked. I have had dogs run at me teeth bared growling and try to bite me and they only back off when I try and kick them and run after them (They still follow me but at a small distance) Some of these kids are in first grade and they cannot fight off an animal that equals their weight. When dogs get loose they act differently than when they're at home. So many of these people think their dogs are just fine and they could be but why take that chance?? Its stories like this that make people not like pit bulls and boxer dogs ect. You cant argue that they are safe when stuff like this happens. Yes, Small dogs can bite you and they can injure you but they wont literally rip your arm off or kill you.

if you can't get nothing done here with the officials, how about some antifreeze hamburger meat, that might do it. kids should not worry every day wether or not today is the day there going to get them.

freeby4me · 12-11-2006, 02:13 PM

No I could never do that

Its one thing to hurt the animal if its in attack mode and you have no choice but most of these dogs are nice enough, I could never intentionally hurt them

evrita · 12-11-2006, 02:13 PM

AWww my baby is a boxer and she is so gentle.. Would I tell you that she wouldnt rip you a new one if you came onto my property and she was guarding it no.. Have i been bitten by an ankle biter and needed stitches yES and my brothers boxer was just sent to the vets this weekend by an ankle biter who almost ripper his boxer ear off this weekend

BeanieLuvR · 12-11-2006, 02:28 PM

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if your dog wasn't threatening me, my children, or animals then the only thing i'd do in this situation is to ask you nicely to come clean the trash up and keep your dog in your yard or house. if you refused then you'd have a yard full of trash but that's a whole nother post, but seriously...i ain't cleaning up after someone else's dog. the only way i'd kill any dog is if me, my kids, or my animals were threatened or attacked.

edited to add. i'd also kill a dog if not just me or my family or animals were being attacked. if i saw any person or other animal being attacked and i could get a shot in, then i would. i've seen kitties torn apart by pitt's, it aint fun.

I feel the exact same way. I could not stand by and watch a dog hurt anyone. If I did not have a gun I'd use whatever I could grab. A woman here had to use a baseball bat to beat a pit bull off of a kid to keep it from killing the kid. I would do whatever it took to save the person. To me human life is more valuable than an animal.

msginna · 12-11-2006, 04:02 PM

"If you know who they belong to, why not talk to them about taking better care of their animals?"

because it isn't my responsibility to make sure their dogs stay on their property. But it doesn't matter where the dogs are from, if they act out I can do what I can to protect my property, my kid's lives, and my life. It is within the law. And ya know what else. I am allowed to shoot if they come on to the property PERIOD. But I wouldn't do that and do it if what I stated above happens. So point being if you love yur pooches, take care of them, just because you live out in the woods it doesn't give you the right to have your dogs and cats run wild. (we live in the middle of nowhere) No I wouldn't poison them eiter (why on earth was that brought up?). Oh and if the said dog hurt my family or property yes we would hold the owner resonsible and do whatever legaly we could. People who don't care about their animals shouldn't have them!

I am super glad I have never had to do anything though cause I know it would haunt me forever, even if I had to do it. My kids play outside and thank goodness no animal has gone after them.

meep_meep · 12-11-2006, 04:25 PM

Punish the deed, not the breed.

I've always believed in that, long before I got my dog last year by accident. I was not looking for a dog, and didn't particularly want one, but he happened to come a long at the right time.

Dalmations can be just as deadly as pitbulls, and often times other short stocky breeds are often misidentified or lumped into the class of "pit bull". The instant *ANY DOG* turns on people it needs to be put down.

you never hear about the nice pit bulls. in the '70s -90's it was the "dangerous german shepards".... any dog can be trained to be mean. Does that mean that we lump them all together in the same class?

People cross the street when they see my dog. they don't understand. If you're willing to stop and listen and TALK/educate most people will at least walk away with a better understanding.

Our neighbors LOVE my dog. They didn't at first, and it took some coaxing, but Ralph is a lover of people and other dogs.

He's also an escape artist, like most of them are. Thats no excuse to have a dog running wild, if you know about it, you NEVER let him out without being there with him.

I've had kids that were as young as 2 years old come up and pet him, and they look in his ears, pull on his paws, and tug the tail (all with in reason and being gentle) the most he's ever done is glanced back and flopped over for a belly rub.

Before you say something hateful about *all* pitbulls, please do educate yourself. They aren't all vicious child killers. Those owers, and those dogs don't deserve to have each other, and its a shame, because in the begining I bet those were two great dogs, ruined by the owners lack of knowledge/care for them.

He has a collar with bells on as we've had skunk/possum/coon problems lately, and while he gets along with them and wants to play... (he loves cats) our neighbors two beagles have been SPRAYED twice this year. The bells alert the other animals and give them time to run off before Ralph gets near them.

evrita · 12-11-2006, 06:18 PM

Awww what a cute doggie my dog gets mistaken for a pitbull once and a while because she is docked and floppy and she loves my daughter to pieces and everyone she comes near. Will she protect me and my family Yes but so wont a small dog

moogle · 12-11-2006, 06:23 PM

[quote=msginna]"If you know who they belong to, why not talk to them about taking better care of their animals?"

because it isn't my responsibility to make sure their dogs stay on their property. But it doesn't matter where the dogs are from, if they act out I can do what I can to protect my property, my kid's lives, and my life. It is within the law. And ya know what else. I am allowed to shoot if they come on to the property PERIOD. "
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Umm - that depends on where you live. I have heard of people shooting in
self defense in their own homes, then getting charged with discharging a
firearm within the city/town limits. The self defense wasn't a problem.
(That wasn't directed at you msginna - you may live where it's fine to shoot a gun.
I just wanted to point out that isn't the case in all places.)

Sigh - I'm not saying it's your responsibility to make sure that other people
take care of their animals. But if it saved one person from a bite or attack,
wouldn't that be worth the effort? Or if it saved one animal from being killed?
Personally, I think it's worth it.

Every chance I get, I talk to people about spaying/neutering and taking care
of their animals. Why? Because I love animals! Not just the ones that I own.
Some people just don't think until you point things out to them. Even if it is
not my animal, I want it to be well taken care of and have a good life.

meep_meep - your dog is beautiful, and looks like a big baby!

msginna · 12-11-2006, 07:07 PM

yeh I didn't think of that. It is ok to shoot here or even hunt on your property as long as it isn't by your house or something like that. But you have to have a license too. Plenty of people target practice and such. It would be ok to shoot an animal on our property but we have not done so. And if you went down the road a few miles it wouldn't be ok to shoot. So I don't know what would happen if a person shot in self defense persay in town...Something to think about