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Old 12-19-2004, 06:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: update on stolen baby

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The alleged kidnapper/killer is a total moron...she was SHOWING OFF the baby?? I guess they will say she was mentally ill and get off...it is terrible for people REALLY ill...this story is shocking. The husband is a jerk, too. (The phrase not too bright keeps popping up).

I hate how they keep putting the INTERNET is EVIL slant on this story. You can have nuts in the neighborhood do something to you like this...The woman did not deserve to die for her poor judgement of meeting a stranger at her home. But, you know, she bred dogs. What if someone read about her dog breeding in the paper and turned out to be a nut?

My heart goes out to the victim's family...and to the perp...life in prision with a few chicks named Big Bertha....does MO have the death penalty?
Luckily, she probably won't get away with being "mentally ill" or "insane" becasue of the fact there was too much pre-meditation that went on... remember she spent 8 - 9 months pretending she was preganet and probably had already picked her victim long before it was time to "deliver".
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Old 12-20-2004, 02:34 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: update on stolen baby

This is so so sick! Has anyone heard about the lady that did this, what she did for a living? The reason I wonder is, it seems like you would need some kind of medical knowledge to cut a baby out of it's mother without hurting the baby. Maybe I am wrong, but it seems like it to me.
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Old 01-21-2005, 01:25 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Woman Pleads Not Guilty in Woman's Death

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) - A woman accused of strangling an expectant mother and cutting the baby from her womb pleaded not guilty Thursday, and prosecutors said they are leaning toward seeking the death penalty.

Lisa Montgomery, 36, of Melvern, Kan., did not speak during the brief hearing before a federal magistrate, who appointed another lawyer to her defense team after U.S. Attorney Todd Graves indicated he plans to seek a death sentence. ``That is the direction we are going,'' Graves said.

Montgomery is charged in the December slaying of Bobbie Jo Stinnett, a 23-year-old who was eight months pregnant, at her Missouri home. Stinnett's baby girl was found alive the next day with Montgomery in Kansas.

Anita Burns, Montgomery's public defender, had no comment after the hearing.



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Old 10-22-2007, 04:16 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Closing arguments in pregnant woman case
By HEATHER HOLLINGSWORTH, Associated Press Writer
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KANSAS CITY, Mo. - A woman accused of killing a pregnant woman and cutting out her fetus was a cold, calculated plotter, prosecutors told a jury Monday during closing arguments, while defense attorneys countered that she was delusional.

Lawyers for Lisa Montgomery said she was suffering from pseudocyesis, which causes a woman to falsely believe she is pregnant and exhibit signs of pregnancy.

Montgomery, 39, is on trial for kidnapping resulting in death. Her attorneys are presenting an insanity defense. Prosecutors said they will seek the death penalty if she is convicted after the trial, now in its third week.

Prosecutor Roseann Ketchmark told jurors that Montgomery was driven by fear because she believed her ex-husband, Carl Boman, would expose that she was lying about being pregnant. Montgomery was cold and calculated and plotted up until the slaying of Bobbie Jo Stinnett on Dec. 16, 2004, in the northwest Missouri town of Skidmore, Ketchmark said.

"It's not pseudocyesis or post traumatic stress disorder," Ketchmark said. "And even if you wrap them up and put delusions around them, it's not insanity."

Prosecutors said Stinnett, 23, was conscious and trying to defend herself as a kitchen knife was used to crudely cut the baby from her womb.

Mental health experts testifying for the defense said threats to Montgomery's delusion about being pregnant caused her to enter a dreamlike, dissociative state when the slaying took place. Montgomery was arrested the day after the killing; prosecutors say she had spent the morning showing off Stinnett's baby as her own.

"Obviously she's believing she was pregnant or might be, because physical changes were manifesting," defense lawyer John O'Connor said in his closing statement. "There were physical manifestations. That's the key."

O'Connor spent much of his closing argument recounting stories about Montgomery's troubled childhood, filled with mental, physical and sexual abuse.

Montgomery had undergone a tubal ligation in 1990 after the birth of her fourth child. But soon after, she began claiming to be pregnant again, according to testimony.

Boman had become suspicious of her latest pregnancy claim and threatened to use it against her as he sought custody of two of the couple's four children. A custody hearing had been set for January 2005.

Montgomery's mother and sister also had been telling her husband, Kevin Montgomery, and his parents that it was impossible for Montgomery to carry a child.

As Montgomery's purported Dec. 13, 2004, due date approached, she began conducting searches on the Internet about Stinnett and researching different aspects of child birth. The defense views those efforts as evidence that she believed she was pregnant. The prosecution views them as proof of premeditation.

Besides convicting or acquitting her, jurors could find Montgomery not guilty by reason of insanity. If that is the verdict, she would undergo a mental evaluation and a judge would decide if she will be released or committed to a mental institution.

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Old 10-22-2007, 04:20 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I really hope they find her guilty and fry her @ss.
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Old 10-22-2007, 05:05 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Boy its scary to be pregnant these day. If it isn't some nut that kills the pregnant woman and steals the baby then its the husband or boyfriend that kills her. This is so sad for the victims family. But at least they have the baby and she's ok.
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Old 10-22-2007, 10:07 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Guilty verdict in pregnant woman's death By ANDALE GROSS, Associated Press Writer
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KANSAS CITY, Mo. - A woman whose attorneys had argued that she was delusional when she killed an expectant mother, cut the baby from her womb and took the infant home was found guilty Monday.

Jurors convicted Lisa Montgomery, 39, of kidnapping resulting in death in the 2004 attack on 23-year-old Bobbie Jo Stinnett in the northwest Missouri town of Skidmore.

The jury deliberated for about four hours before rejecting Montgomery's insanity defense. Jurors could have acquitted her outright or found her not guilty by reason of insanity. Prosecutors said they plan to seek the death penalty.

After the verdict was read, Montgomery dried her eyes and one of her attorneys patted her back. Her husband, Kevin, and Stinnett's husband, Zeb, showed no emotion.

Defense attorneys claimed Montgomery was suffering from pseudocyesis, which causes a woman to falsely believe she is pregnant and exhibit outward signs of pregnancy. They portrayed her as a victim of severe mental illness whose delusion of being pregnant was being threatened, causing her to enter a dreamlike state when the killing took place.

They also argued that she had post-traumatic stress disorder brought on by mental, physical and sexual abuse in her childhood.

Federal prosecutor Roseann Ketchmark called the pseudocyesis claim "voodoo science" during closing arguments.

"It's not pseudocyesis or post-traumatic stress disorder," Ketchmark said. "And even if you wrap them up and put delusions around them, it's not insanity."

Ketchmark said Montgomery plotted the slaying and abduction and took pains to cover up that planning after she was caught.

"She knows she's not pregnant," the prosecutor said. "It's no delusion. It's deceit and manipulation."

Montgomery had undergone a tubal ligation in 1990 after the birth of her fourth child. But soon after, she began falsely reporting a series of pregnancies. In 2004, she claimed to be due in mid-December.

Ketchmark said Montgomery believed her ex-husband, Carl Boman, would expose that she was lying about being pregnant and use it against her as he sought custody of two of the couple's four children. A custody hearing had been set for January 2005.

Montgomery's mother and sister also had been telling Montgomery's husband and his parents that it was impossible for her to carry a child.

As Montgomery's purported Dec. 13, 2004, due date approached, she began conducting Internet searches on Stinnett and researching different aspects of childbirth. The defense portrayed those efforts as evidence that she believed she was pregnant; the prosecution called them proof of premeditation.

Prosecutors said Montgomery used a rope to choke Stinnett, who was eight months pregnant. But Stinnett was conscious and trying to defend herself as Montgomery used a kitchen knife to cut the baby girl from the womb, prosecutors said.

Montgomery was arrested the day after the killing after spending the morning showing off the infant as her own in her hometown of Melvern, Kan.

Montgomery's attorneys and a spokesman for Stinnett's family declined to comment. Stinnett's baby is living with her family.

"The only good thing that comes from this tragedy is that little Victoria is a healthy baby and is reunited with her family," U.S. Attorney John F. Wood said.

After initially denying the crime, Montgomery told investigators she had taken a knife, rope and umbilical cord clamp with her to Stinnett's home. Montgomery said she had thought she was leaving the home when "something out of character" happened and "then this took place."

Attorneys are to start arguing Wednesday whether Montgomery deserves the death penalty
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Penalty phase starts in stolen-baby case
By HEATHER HOLLINGSWORTH, Associated Press Writer
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KANSAS CITY, Mo. - Jurors deciding whether to recommend the death penalty for a woman convicted of killing an expectant mother and cutting the baby from her womb listened Wednesday to a 911 call in which the victim's mother described the gruesome crime scene.

"It's like she exploded or something," a sobbing Becky Harper told the dispatcher in the recording. "There's blood everywhere."

The federal jury convicted Lisa Montgomery on Monday of killing Bobbie Jo Stinnett on Dec. 16, 2004, in the pregnant woman's home in the northwest Missouri town of Skidmore. The baby survived, and Montgomery was arrested the next day after showing the infant off as her own in her hometown of Melvern, Kan.

The penalty phase of the trial began Wednesday. Prosecutors say Montgomery, 39, deserves a death sentence for the kidnapping resulting in death conviction. Her attorneys argue that she should get life in prison without parole — the only other punishment the jury can choose — because physical and sexual abuse she suffered as a child left her mentally ill.

During opening statements for the penalty phase of the trial, one of her attorneys, Fred Duchardt, said the defense would call two mental health experts and two of Montgomery's daughters to testify.

"It's obvious that Lisa has mental illness," he said.

On the stand Wednesday, Harper described her daughter, Bobbie Jo Stinnett, as intelligent and fun-loving.

"She never knew a stranger," Harper said.

Stinnett's husband, Zeb, said her death "devastated my life."

He described his wife preparing for the baby's birth. Prosecutors showed photos of the plastic tubs she had filled with baby clothes and blankets. Prosecutors also showed a photo of a baby monitor the couple used to listen to the baby's heartbeat.

"It was very exciting," Zeb Stinnett testified.

Prosecutors say Montgomery had a history of pretending to be pregnant to get attention and avoid work. Her ex-husband, Carl Boman, had told Montgomery he would use the fake pregnancy against her to obtain custody of two of the couple's four children. A custody hearing had been set for January 2005.

The defense said Montgomery suffered from pseudocyesis, a mental condition that causes a woman to falsely believe she is pregnant and exhibit outward signs of pregnancy. They said her delusion of being pregnant was being threatened, causing her to enter a dreamlike, dissociative state when the killing happened.

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Verdict in stolen-baby case: Execution
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KANSAS CITY, Mo. - A federal jury decided Friday that a woman convicted of killing an expectant mother and cutting her baby from her womb should receive the death penalty.

Jurors deliberated more than five hours before recommending the sentence for Lisa Montgomery. Judge Gary Fenner will sentence Montgomery, but he had told jurors he was obligated to abide by their recommendation. A sentencing date has not been set.

Montgomery, 39, was convicted Monday of kidnapping and killing Bobbie Jo Stinnett on Dec. 16, 2004, in the victim's home in the northwest Missouri town of Skidmore. She was arrested the next day in Melvern, Kan., where she was showing off the newborn as her own.

Montgomery wiped her eyes with a tissue as the jury announced its sentencing decision. Her attorney, Fred Duchardt, had his hand on her shoulder.

When the jurors were asked if they agreed with the decision, each responded: "Yes, your honor." Afterward, the jury asked to speak to prosecutors and defense attorneys but did not say why.

Lisa Montgomery's husband, Kevin, and his parents were not in the courtroom when the verdict was read but came in as the jurors left. The family then went into another room without speaking to reporters.

Prosecutors argued that Stinnett's killing and mutilation is the kind of crime for which capital punishment is intended. Showing jurors photos of the bloody crime scene, the prosecution told jurors Thursday that Montgomery deserves to die because of the heinousness of her crime, and because computer evidence — including Internet searches on performing Caesareans — shows the crime was premeditated.

Federal prosecutor Roseann Ketchmark said Montgomery had violated Stinnett in the "most wicked way possible," then failed to seek medical attention for the infant, who was four weeks shy of her due date.

Defense attorney Fred Duchardt, who claims sexual abuse during Montgomery's childhood led to mental illness, asked the jury to spare his client's life. He said emotional abuse from her mother and sexual abuse from her stepfather "killed Lisa's soul."

"I'm not ashamed to ask you all for mercy," Duchardt told the jury. "I ask for it on behalf of Lisa and all the people who love her."

Prosecutors claimed Montgomery was faking mental illness to aid her defense. They also noted that few of the many people who have been sexually abused go on to kill.

Ketchmark showed jurors crime scene photos highlighting the blows to Stinnett's head, injuries to her elbows, defensive cuts to her hands and strangulation marks. "Look at the ragged abdominal cuts," she said. "This is vicious. This defendant mutilated her."

Ketchmark also described how the gruesome death had hurt Stinnett's family, particularly her husband, Zeb, who was forced to raise their daughter alone, and her mother, Becky Harper, who found her daughter's body.

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