nanajoanie

Thanks T for clearing that up for me. I misunderstood and thought he had already been captured. Regardless what us mere mortals think, feel, wish, God will get him for that. That's and old "Maude" TV show quote

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BTK Killer's Writing Style Has Changed
By ROXANA HEGEMAN

WICHITA, Kan. (AP) - The letters and poems began arriving in 1974. Shot through with spelling and grammatical errors, they alternated between tortured rambling and cold-blooded, gleeful detail. Then, the BTK killer - since linked to eight unsolved killings between 1974 and 1986 - vanished. But he resurfaced last March with new letters to police and media and, although still enigmatic, they have taken a new tone.

The frequency of the new communications and the accompanying attention concern at least one researcher. ``For some of these killers, there is kind of a cycle that once the spiral begins to accelerate the next step is to kill and get a whole new generation of people scared,'' said Dirk Gibson, author of "Clues from Killers: Serial Murder and Crime Scene Messages.''

The killer once raved about his inability to control a ``monster'' living inside him and gave graphic descriptions of his crimes. The few details released about the new messages indicate a businesslike, almost cordial approach.


Officials said last week the killer had recently sent at least three packages containing jewelry, and investigators were trying to determine whether any of it was taken from BTK's victims. Along with a padded manila envelope sent to KSAS-TV in Wichita, the communications included a cereal box found in a rural area northwest of Wichita in late January and a package found a few days later that police identified only as Communication No. 7.


Gibson, who has studied more than 500 serial killers, said BTK loves the attention. That was already apparent in the 1970s, when the self-named BTK - the initials stand for ``Bind, Torture, Kill - terrorized Wichita. When one of his messages, a poem sent to the Wichita Eagle-Beacon on Jan. 31, 1978, was mistakenly routed to the classified ads department, BTK sent a letter to KAKE-TV days later complaining: ``How many do I have to kill before I get my name in the paper or some national attention?''


Another letter to the newspaper also underscored BTK's need for recognition. ``P.S. How about some name for me, its time: 7 down and many more to go,'' it read in part. ``I like the following. How about you? 'THE B.T.K STRANGLER, 'WICHITA STRANGLER', 'POETIC STRANGLER', 'THE BONDAGE STRANGER' OR 'PSYCHO', 'THE WICHITA HANGMAN', 'THE WICHITA EXECUTIONER,' 'THE GAROTE PHATHOM', 'THE ASPHYXIATER'.''


KAKE-TV has also received communiques from BTK since his re-emergence, some of which contain messages for police. But the tenor has changed: In a postcard sent earlier this month, BTK thanked the station for its quick response to two other messages and expressed concern for two news anchors after a passing comment one made on the air about having the flu.

Randy Brown, a senior fellow at Wichita State University's Elliott School of Journalism, was a reporter at the now-defunct Wichita Sun when the weekly paper first broke the story about BTK in the 1970s. ``This is a very different BTK than the original,'' Brown said. ``The first letters were full of horrifying details of these crimes, ravings and very graphic information about the victims and the monster in his brain - ugly, nasty, scary, terrible kinds of things that people who saw them still have bad dreams about.''


Although no recent deaths have been officially linked to BTK since he resurfaced last year, the case has received worldwide attention. ``It is hard to believe this is really the same twisted killer that was scaring the heck out of everybody - had a town completely on edge - in the late 1970s and 1980s,'' Brown said.


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02/21/05 05:12

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BIG UPDATE

They have a new "Person of interest" in custody. News conference in the AM with police, FBI, District Attorney, State Rep. Tiahrt, and there is a meeting with victims family members at 9 in the morning.

Its a whole new kind of news conference than they have had before, so I guess its wait and see for now

sharinbo

They got him! DNA is apparently a match. See other thread for more info.

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nanajoanie

Just happened to walk thru the room and saw where they got the guy. His daughter went into the police station and said she thought her dad was the BTK. Seems him name was Rader or something like that. It will be on all the news channels tomorrow I'm sure.

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june72

apparently i live under a rock to. thanks for asking, was goin to

Jolie Rouge

Source: 'BTK' suspect confesses to at least 6 killings
Rader could make court appearance Monday
MSNBC News Services
Updated: 8:53 a.m. ET Feb. 28, 2005

WICHITA, Kan. - The man arrested on suspicion of being the BTK serial killer confessed on the day of his arrest to six slayings, a source close to the investigation said Sunday.

Investigators, who allege Dennis L. Rader committed a decades-old string of 10 slayings, also are looking into whether he was responsible for another three killings— including at least one that occurred after the restoration of the Kansas’ death penalty in 1994, the source told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

Rader made the confession Friday, the day of his arrest, according to the source. “The guy is telling us about the murders,” the source said.

When asked for comment, District Attorney Nola Foulston said, “Your information is patently false,” but she refused to say whether Rader had made any confessions or whether investigators are looking into Rader’s possible involvement in more unsolved killings. Police spokeswoman Janet Johnson also declined to comment specifically on the accuracy of the source’s statements.


Now, the source said, police are looking whether Rader was responsible for the deaths of two Wichita State University students, as well as a woman who lived down the street from another known victim of BTK, the killer’s self-coined nickname that stands for “Bind, Torture, Kill.” It was unclear when the three slayings occurred, but the source said one of them took place while Kansas’ death penalty was in effect.

Prosecutors had said initially they could not pursue the death penalty against Rader because the 10 murders linked to BTK occurred when Kansas did not have the death penalty.

Rader, 59, could appear in court as early as Monday, when he would stand in front of a judge on video while prosecutors recite yet-to-be-filed criminal charges against him. The judge would also review Rader’s bond and set a permanent amount.

The hearing could happen Monday but was more likely to be postponed until Tuesday, the district attorney’s office said Sunday. It was unclear whether Rader had a lawyer.

30-year manhunt

Police were confident Rader’s arrest last week would bring to an end 30 years of fear about the BTK strangler. But as they pored over news of a suspect’s capture, many residents here were left with an unsettling feeling — that he had been hidden among them all along.

Charlie Otero, whose parents and two siblings were BTK’s first victims in 1974, said Sunday that he was “waiting with anticipation” to learn more about the DNA evidence that has been credited with helping crack the case.

Otero believes his family was targeted, although the rest of BTK’s victims were likely chosen at random. He isn’t sure why the family was targeted but said it’s interesting that Rader and his father served in the Air Force at the same time in the 1960s. “I’m sure this will all come out during the trial,” he said.

Rader, a married father of two, a Cub Scout leader and an active member of a Lutheran church, was anything but a recluse.

His job as a city code enforcement supervisor required daily contact with the public, and he even appeared on television in 2001 in his tan city uniform for a story on vicious dogs running loose in Park City.


'By-the-books' employee

Before becoming a municipal employee, Rader worked for a home-security company, where he held several positions that allowed him access to customers’ homes, including a role as installation manager. He worked for ADT Security Systems from 1974 to 1989 — the same time as a majority of the BTK killings.

Mike Tavares, who worked with Rader at ADT, described him as a “by-the-books” employee who would often draw diagrams of houses and personally make sure technicians installed systems correctly.

While Rader was known as a blunt person and rubbed some people the wrong way, it never struck co-workers as anything other than businesslike.

“I’ve spoken to some co-workers who were around then, and everybody is very numb,” said Tavares, who left the company in 2001.


'Disbelief, absolute disbelief'

At his church and around town, many expressed shock that Rader was accused of being the BTK killer.

“Disbelief, absolute disbelief,” said a tearful Carole Nelson, a member of Christ Lutheran Church, where Rader was an usher and the president of the church council. “I never would have guessed in a million years.”

The church’s pastor, Michael Clark, said Rader’s wife, Paula, was in a state of shock when he visited the family, who remained in seclusion Sunday. “Her demeanor and voice indicated she was suffering,” Clark said.

Just days before his arrest, Rader brought spaghetti sauce and salad to a church supper, even though he was unable to attend himself, church member Paul Carlstedt said. “The guy that walked in here was not the face of evil,” said Bob Smyser, an usher at the church.

Still, a sense of relief was palpable around Wichita after the apparent capture of the killer who had sent taunting letters to the media since the 1970s. “Hallelujah, praise the Lord,” Gaylene Brown said over breakfast Sunday at Don’s Restaurant, where Rader’s face was a common sight.

Police disclosed little about how they identified Rader as a suspect and have said they will not comment further on the case, but bits and pieces of the investigation have filtered out.

DNA credited in breaking case

Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius told The Associated Press that DNA evidence was the key to cracking the case. It was unclear whether BTK’s letters helped lead to the arrest. Police have said they obtained semen from the crime scenes even though the killer did not sexually assault his victims.

Wichita television station KAKE, citing sources it did not name, reported that DNA from Rader’s daughter, Kerri, was instrumental in his capture, though KAKE anchor Larry Hatteberg said it did not appear the daughter turned in her father.

Parts of the profile released earlier by police seemed to match up. Investigators said they believed the killer was familiar with a professor at Wichita State University. Rader graduated from the university in 1979.

In the 1970s, Rader worked at a nearby Coleman camping gear plant where two of his alleged victims were employed.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6988048/

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Updated 3/1/2005 3:45 PM

BTK suspect charged in 10 murders

WICHITA (AP) — Dennis Rader, the churchgoing family man and Cub Scout leader accused of leading a double life as the BTK serial killer, was charged Tuesday with 10 counts of first-degree murder. Rader made his first court appearance since his Friday arrest by videoconference from his cell at the Sedgwick County detention center. During the brief hearing, Rader sat with his hands folded behind a small desk.

The BTK killer, whose nickname stands for "Bind, Torture, Kill," was suspected of eight deaths beginning in 1974, but authorities said Saturday they had linked two additional victims to the serial killer.

Rader's arrest has also prompted nearby law enforcement agencies to reinvestigate cold cases that bear similarities to the string of slayings.

Sedgwick County District Judge Greg Waller read the charges during Tuesday's hearing, which lasted about five minutes. A preliminary hearing was set for March 15, when Rader is likely to be arraigned.

Rader's only comments during the hearing were short "yes" and "no" answers to questions. He was accompanied by a temporary attorney. Waller appointed the state's public defender office to represent Rader.

About a dozen family members of victims were in the courtroom. They did not speak to reporters.

Rader, 59, was arrested Friday. Authorities have declined to say what led them to concentrate on the married father of two, a scout leader and an active member of a Lutheran church.

New details of the investigation emerged from Michigan. The Wichita Eagle and The Daily Oakland Press of Pontiac, Mich., reported Tuesday that FBI agents had visited the Farmington, Mich., home of Rader's 26-year-old daughter, Kerri, on Friday to get a DNA sample.

The timing indicated she was not visited until after her father had been arrested that same day in Kansas, the Eagle said, suggesting her DNA helped confirm his identity but was not the original break in the case as some initial reports had suggested.

Charles Nebus, public safety director and police chief in Farmington, Mich., said Tuesday that the FBI told him Friday they were conducting an interview in the city in connection with the BTK case.

He said the family that was interviewed had since contacted police repeatedly complaining of being bothered by reporters. He would not confirm that the person interviewed was Rader's daughter, though public records indicated she had lived in Farmington.

One of the two deaths newly attributed to Rader was that of Delores Davis, who was abducted from her home near Park City and whose body was found 13 days later near a river in northern Sedgwick County.

Reno County Sheriff Randy Henderson said that was similar to the 1977 death of Gail Sorensen, who was also kidnapped and whose body was found two days later near the Arkansas River near Hutchinson. "We're looking at one," Henderson told The Associated Press. "We've got five cold cases. But the other four didn't have the same details, the same modus operandi."

Harvey County Sheriff Byron Motter said Tuesday he is reopening a cold case from 2001 in which a 46-year-old Wichita woman was strangled and dumped in a creek. "With this information that BTK has been caught, we are opening up cases to see if we have anything," Motter said.

In addition to the 10 deaths attributed to BTK, a source close to the investigation said on condition of anonymity that authorities were looking into whether the serial killer was responsible for the deaths of two Wichita State University students as well as a woman who lived down the street from a BTK victim.

Rader's younger brother, Jeff Rader, told The Wichita Eagle that no one in the family believes his brother is the BTK serial killer. "I don't think my brother is BTK," he said. "But if he is — if that's the truth — then let the truth be the truth. And may God have mercy on his soul."

Jeff Rader, 50, said the family never saw any sign that his brother could be a killer. "My mother still can't believe it," he said. "She's still very much in denial. And so am I. But maybe, with me, acceptance is starting to creep in."


http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...tm?POE=NEWISVA

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A timeline from 1974 to present surrounding the BTK case
The Associated Press

• Jan. 15, 1974: Joseph Otero, 38, and his wife, Julie, 34, are strangled in their home along with two of their children, Josephine, 11, and Joseph II, 9.

• April 4, 1974: Kathryn Bright, 21, is stabbed to death in her home. Police later conclude she was a BTK victim.

• October 1974: The Wichita Eagle-Beacon gets a letter from someone taking responsibility for the Otero family killing and including crime scene details.

• March 17, 1977: Shirley Vian, 24, is found tied up and strangled at her home.

• Dec. 8, 1977: Nancy Fox, 25, is found tied up and strangled in her home. The killer's voice is captured on tape when he calls a dispatcher to report the crime.

• Jan. 31, 1978: A poem referring to the Vian killing is sent to The Wichita Eagle-Beacon.

• Feb. 10, 1978: A letter from BTK is sent to KAKE-TV claiming responsibility for the deaths of Vian and Fox, as well as another unnamed victim. Police Chief Richard LaMunyon announces a serial killer is at large and has threatened to strike again.

• April 28, 1979: BTK waits inside a home, but leaves before the 63-year-old woman who lives there returns. He later sends her a letter letting her know he was there.

• Aug. 15, 1979: Police get more than 100 tips in the first day of radio and TV broadcasts that repeat the voice of the BTK strangler from the 1977 recording.

• Sept. 16, 1986: Vicki Wegerle, 28, is strangled in her home.

• March 19, 2004: A letter arrives at The Wichita Eagle containing a photocopy of Wegerle's driver's license and photos of her body. Police link it to BTK.

• Feb. 26, 2005: After receiving several more letters, authorities announce the arrest of BTK.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...timeline_x.htm

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janelle

A CD Rom floppy disk tripped him up and led to his arrest. He likes to send things to TV stations and the police so they will report about him. The last package he sent contained a floppy disk that had been erased and he had put other things on it but computer experts could retreave what was on the whole disk and his name appeared on it.

Technology caught him. The computer and the DNA the police kept from way back in the 70s when DNA wasn't so prevalently used to solve cases but the police thought ahead to save it.

Jolie Rouge

BTK Killer's Prosecutor Vows No Plea Deal
By ROXANA HEGEMAN, Associated Press Writer
Wed May 4, 2005



WICHITA, Kan. - Prosecutors vowed there will be no plea bargain in the case against a former church leader and city employee charged with 10 counts of murder in the BTK serial killings that terrorized Wichita since the 1970s.


"I look forward to a trial of this case because it is important after 30 years for people to know and for people to understand and appreciate, not only the work of law enforcement, but to be able to say, 'It's over, it's over,'" District Attorney Nola Foulston said Tuesday after the arraignment of suspect Dennis Rader.

Rader, 60, stood mute during the brief hearing, leaving it to District Court Judge Gregory Waller to enter a not guilty plea for him. Waller set trial for June 27 — a date likely to be postponed.

Rader, a former city compliance officer from suburban Park City, was arrested Feb. 25 and charged in 10 deaths linked to the serial killer known as BTK, which stands for "Bind, Torture, Kill." The killings began in the 1970s and made headlines again last year when the killer started sending cryptic messages and packages to media and police.

Authorities have declined to say what led them to Rader.

Prosecutors cannot seek the death penalty because all the crimes were committed before 1994, when Kansas passed its capital punishment law.

But in a dramatic moment at the arraignment, Foulston stood across the table from Rader and looked him in the eye as she handed him a court document seeking a harsher sentence for the most recent of the 10 killings.

Foulston told Rader she would seek a so-called hard-40 sentence for the death of Dolores Davis, 62, who was abducted from her Park City home Jan. 19, 1991, and found strangled two weeks later.

The sentence means Rader, if convicted, would have to serve at least 40 years without a chance of parole.

As Rader was being taken out of the courtroom, one of victims' family members yelled out to him: "Don't worry, you won't last that long."

In the other nine killings, Rader would have a chance of parole after 15 years even if sentenced to life in prison under law on the books at the time of those crimes.

Foulston told reporters she wanted the case to go to a jury trial to determine Rader's guilt or innocence.

"Without that we still will wonder and live with the question for the rest of our lives in this community — and there isn't a book, there isn't anything that can make sense of this case — without a jury making a determination," she said.

Rader's defense team is considering seeking a change of venue but had not made a final decision, Osburn said, adding attorneys do not anticipate making Rader's competency a part of the defense.

Defense attorney Steve Osburn said Rader, despite his lack of cooperation in the courtroom, "cooperates with us. We are able to work with him and he is able to help with his defense."

Prosecutors have listed 247 potential witnesses, and the public defender's office has said a trial is likely more than a year away. Rader last month waived his right to a preliminary hearing, meaning prosecutors will not have to reveal details of their case until trial.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...NlYwNsbjcxOA--

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