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Old 04-01-2005, 02:16 AM   #595 (permalink)
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Re: Appeals court: Terri Schiavo parents cannot intervene

Also strange that they were so worried that she would die a peaceful death without any argueing in the room when they have insisted all along that she is really dead inside and cannot comprehend anything.

So who was in denial as to how dead she really was? Her husband said she couldn't understand anything anymore and never would again. So why would he be concerned if people argued around her bed? Maybe he knew more about her condition than he let on. Maybe she related to him more than he let on.
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Re: Appeals court: Terri Schiavo parents cannot intervene

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Michael Schiavo's brother, Scott Schiavo, said the ashes will be buried in an undisclosed location near Philadelphia so that her immediate family does not attend and turn the moment into a media spectacle. A funeral Mass, sought by the Schindlers, was tentatively scheduled for Tuesday or Wednesday.


Asked about perhaps never knowing where his sister might be buried, Bobby Schindler said, "We've already said goodbye. ... He's been doing this kind of stuff for 15 years. What would make him stop now?"

This man is a control freak ... that is just out and out mean ... Catholic Traditionalists do not 'hold' with cremation, and to deny her a funereal Mass and not even allow her parents & siblings to visit her grave ...
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Old 04-01-2005, 07:08 AM   #597 (permalink)
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Re: Appeals court: Terri Schiavo parents cannot intervene

What he did to that poor womans family at the end is just inexcusable. If that had been my child, I am afraid I would be in jail right now because I would have fought anyone who got in my way in those final moments.

For him to do that to them, not let them go to her funeral or know where she is buried colder than any dry ice ever has been.
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Old 04-01-2005, 09:57 AM   #598 (permalink)
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Also strange that they were so worried that she would die a peaceful death without any argueing in the room when they have insisted all along that she is really dead inside and cannot comprehend anything.
so what you are saying is that instead of a peaceful death she should have passed away amidst fighting and sniping? That it would have been better to have a hostile atmosphere during the end? What about all the other patients at the hospice? Don't they have the right to a peaceful death? Don't they have the right to a dignified passing? Would you want your loved one to be in that hospice during that time?
why shouldn't they be worried, who is to say what happens in the final moments? Do you know for a fact that at the very end she wasn't hovering over the scene? Amazing that even though time and time again it has been PROVEN that Michael was a kind, caring,concerned husband (and verified by Terris own parents)he is villified over and over again and judged to be a monster. The parents weren't even there, the police and the hospice itself removed her family, Michael was staying at the hospice...did the family? Why is it that he is always the bad guy? Have you ever given thought to how much of his life has been used up dealing with this? How many people would have given up on her and let the care be dictated by the state, how tedious it must have been for 15 years to have your life consumed by something that was proven time and time again would never get better? How nice it must be to be perfect and to know all the answers(and facts) and to be secure in your convictions, so that you can be able to judge someone elses motives and to pass judgement on them in such a way. I thought that was best left up to God?!
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Old 04-01-2005, 11:06 AM   #599 (permalink)
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Re: Appeals court: Terri Schiavo parents cannot intervene

WHO appointed? These were MOSTLY CONSERVATIVE judges. The best one was the judge appointed by Bush 41, who ripped his son a new one. lol

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GOP converts, OMG how can you think that? More people will be leaving the Dem party after this. They treat life and death issues with pro-death judges they appointed. This is a travisty.
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Old 04-01-2005, 11:10 AM   #600 (permalink)
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Re: Appeals court: Terri Schiavo parents cannot intervene

Please quote the entire article. I refuse to sign up to read his rediculous crud.

Bush is all gung ho on the death penalty. Allowing the hospital to pull the plug on a baby in Texas (that was HIS law)? Where you get your information tells a lot about you.

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Old 04-01-2005, 11:14 AM   #601 (permalink)
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Re: Appeals court: Terri Schiavo parents cannot intervene

This is not rocket science... The Courts are mainly concervative because of past conservative presidents. Every time Republicans disagree with something, they twist it back on liberals or Democrats, even when the people doing it are in their own party. That is our system. This is a real trait of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.

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The Supreme Court and judges did not suddenly become conservative just because a conservative President got elected. They still are liberal and vote that way. Bush does not give them orders and cannot give them orders. That is our system.

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Old 04-01-2005, 11:16 AM   #602 (permalink)
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Re: Appeals court: Terri Schiavo parents cannot intervene

A country *ruled* by one party is called a dictatorship. That's when some people will exercise their constitutional right to bear arms against their government. Have fun.

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Looks like half to me. Only one vote to change the outcome. And you know Bush is going to appoint lots of conservative judges in the next few years. Lots of the judges are old and will be retiring. That is what makes the liberal nuts with this election. It will be coming and coming with the even more majority approval now.
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Re: Appeals court: Terri Schiavo parents cannot intervene

It does if "they" *say* it does. lol

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Re: Appeals court: Terri Schiavo parents cannot intervene

1. No matter how many times you say it, it doesn't make it true. There IS no common law in Florida. It is NOT recognised. Your argument doesn't hold water.

2. He got money, yes. It was spent on Terri's care, $700,000 of which was controlled BY THE COURTS. The rest went to Michael, which he was FORCED to use on attorneys because her parents couldn't deal with the truth. There was ONLY one million. Not 1.4, not 1.6, ONE. There is NO life insurance monies to be had. This argument REALLY doesn't hold water.

3. She wasn't a drain on his *new* family. She was his WIFE. If she was, he would have simply divorced her, which WAS an option under Florida law. Your argument does not hold water.

4. He kept her alive for 15 years just to piss off her parents? How stupid does that sound now that you look at it? It would have been EASIER on him to divorce her and let her go to them. Your argument does not hold water.

5. Her parents were allowed to see her whenever they wanted to. Michael would go down the hall to a different room when they did. It was Terri's MOTHER who decided that after Easter she just couldn't take it anymore. As for at the end, it wasn't MICHAEL who made them leave. It was Hospice, who wanted to perform an evaluation who asked them to leave. The brother of Terri had a cow and was escorted from the building. The mother and father weren't even on the premises. Once again, your argument doesn't hold water.

6. She WAS allowed to receive sacrements. She was unable to take the wafer, however, she was served WHAT SHE COULD SWALLOW of the wine. Your argument doesn't hold water.

7. He has the right, as every spouse does, to bury his wife where he wants to. Don't you want to be buried with your husband? I do. Don't her parents want to be buried together? Creamation is NOT against Catholic law. This has been documented. Would you want a circus of mediaand the wacko protesters seen at the hospice at the funeral of your loved one? If so, what's wrong with you? Your argument does not hold water.

8. Yes... they did start to help take care of Terri. WAY after her heart attack. Her parents WERE hurting her, keeping her shell of a life not even viable. I wouldn't allow my children to remain in this state, just because I had a selfish need to see them. Your arguments don't hold water.

Now.... You may have answered, however, none of them address what his motive was. You haven't answered me sufficiently. I think many people on this group would love to know. The *facts* her parents are spewing, simply aren't facts. Court documents do not lie. The facts the parents have been stating lately, have contradicted what they stated to the judge in the court.

I would really like to hear back from you on this. Please address my points one by one, so that I may (or may not) be pursuaded by your rebuttle. I would like facts. Facts that support your version. Not emotional/religious diatribe, but facts.

Thank you.

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His common law wife wanted to get married, he got all the money that was coming and now it was going to be used up on her care, she was a drain on his new family, and he didn't want the parents to take care of her because of all the fighting and he hates them.

No matter what anyone says a spouse should let parents see their dying daughter, he can step out for the time they have with her. Let her receive the sacraments of her church with interfering and let her be buried in her church without interfering. The last two are freedom of religion and if he was denying her that he is the control freak.

The parents hurting her is rediculous. How could they cause her heart attack? She had her brain injury way before they took care of her.
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