YankeeMary

I could kick my hiney, last night I watched an interview with Teri's "guardian of law", and for the life of me I can't remember his name. Anyways, he was neither on her DH side or the parents side, he was ordered by the court to decide what was best for Teri. He stated that her "moaning" was not talking and would do it through out the day, never on command, consitantly. In his opinion, Teri was/is still in a veg. state. He stated that her parents were very loving and caring over Teri and were great people. He stated that Micheal was a loving, devoted husband that took many many measures to "bring" Teri back, including taking her to California for internal electrodes, which failed. He stated that for the first 6-7 years the parents and Micheal got along great and worked together getting Teri all the medical help possible, when the doctors (numerous) stated that Teri would remain in this condition forever. Micheal finally accepted this, her parents didn't, that is when the acusations began. This guardian spent 30 days with her, some times 4 hours at a time. He tried, begged and pleaded Teri to respond to him, do anyhing to prove she was "there", in 30 days, she never did. Out of all honesty this was one of the best interviews, if not the best (IMO) I have seen over this case, he was fair and equal with all involved. IMO I feel that he was appointed by the court to be guardian at law, and he walked in there being just that and walked away being Teri's friend.

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nightrider127

Talking don't mean a thing to me. I heard my sweet Mommy talk as she lay dying. She was in a coma. The woman that I called Mommy and loved and still love, was gone, even though she was still breathing on her own and had a heart beat.

I am sad for this young ladys family, I really am. But sometimes, nothing else can be done and you have to accept that fact.

I will pray for her and all her family and friends.

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YNKYH8R

Okay, let us turn this one around. How benficial is it to let her live. She cannot recognize her surroundings, she has no self actualization. The only benefit to keeping her alive is for her parents sake.
And, like it has been said before it doesn't matter if it was written anywhere or not. He has legal rights as her gaurdian. This is what marriage is for.

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Judge denies request to reinsert feeding tube
Terri Schiavo's parents to appeal to 11th Circuit Court

The Associated Press
Updated: 7:38 a.m. ET March 22, 2005


TAMPA, Fla. - A federal judge on Tuesday refused to order the reinsertion of Terri Schiavo’s feeding tube, denying an emergency request from the brain-damaged woman’s parents.

U.S. District Judge James Whittemore said the 41-year-old woman’s parents had not established a “substantial likelihood of success” at trial on the merits of their arguments.

Whittemore wrote that Terri Schiavo’s “life and liberty interests” had been protected by Florida courts. Despite “these difficult and time strained circumstances,” he wrote, “this court is constrained to apply the law to the issues before it.”

Rex Sparklin, an attorney with the law firm representing Terri Schiavo’s parents, said lawyers were immediately appealing to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals in Atlanta to “save Terri’s life.” That court was already considering an appeal on whether Terri Schiavo’s right to due process had been violated.

Reaction from the handful of protesters outside the woman’s hospice early Tuesday came quickly. “It’s terrible. They’re going to talk and talk and she’s going to die,” said Miriam Zlotolow, 59, of Venice, Calif.


Whittemore’s decision comes after feverish action by President Bush and Congress on legislation allowing the brain-damaged woman’s contentious case to be reviewed by federal courts.

The tube was disconnected Friday on the orders of a state judge, prompting an extraordinary weekend effort by congressional Republicans to push through unprecedented emergency legislation early Monday aimed at keeping her alive.

Terri Schiavo did not have a living will. Her husband, Michael Schiavo, has fought in courts for years to have the tube removed because he said she would not want to be kept alive artificially and she has no hope for recovery. Her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, contend she responds to them and her condition could improve.

'A mortal sin'
David Gibbs III, the parents’ attorney, argued at a Monday hearing in front of Whittemore that forcing Terri Schiavo to starve would be “a mortal sin” under her Roman Catholic beliefs and urged quick action: “Terri may die as I speak.”

But George Felos, an attorney for Michael Schiavo, argued that keeping the woman alive also violated her rights and noted that the case has been aired thoroughly in state courts.


“Yes, life is sacred,” Felos said, contending that restarting artificial feedings would be against Schiavo’s wishes. “So is liberty, particularly in this country.”

Michael Schiavo said he was outraged that lawmakers and the president intervened in a private matter. “When Terri’s wishes are carried out, it will be her wish. She will be at peace. She will be with the Lord,” he said on CNN’s “Larry King Live” late Monday.

Terri Schiavo suffered brain damage in 1990 when her heart stopped briefly because of a possible potassium imbalance brought on by an eating disorder. She can breathe on her own, but has relied on the feeding tube to keep her alive.

Court-appointed doctors say she is in a persistent vegetative state with no hope of recovery, while her parents insist she could recover with treatment. Doctors have said Schiavo could survive one to two weeks without the feeding tube.

According to a CNN-USA Today-Gallup poll of 909 adults taken over the weekend, nearly six in 10 people said they think the feeding tube should be removed and felt they would want to remove it for a child or spouse in the same condition.

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YankeeMary

Ok I have to try to figure this out...first off, the constitution states, seperation of church and State. Everyone says religion has no place in the government. Teri's parents state that her religion plays a role in allowing her to "live" with the feeding tubes. Even though this is all a fact could someone please explain to me how in the world did the President, governer, etc...get involved. YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS!!! This is a double standard and is unnacceptable. If the government is going to be involved in this, then I say combine God and State, all the time not when it is just convient for power or votes. I have read many of the posts in this thread and other threads regarding this situation and its so funny to me that the posters that mention God and Teri's wishes due to her religion, are the same posters that do not want God involved in anything. It can't be that way, its wrong. It also amazes me the ones that complain that a momma spends her food stamps on things "they" don'tapprove of, supports keep Teri "alive" while tax payers foot the bill. Her brain is gone...she doesn't feel pain, therefore she couldn't feel dehyration nor starvation. Removing the tube is the only way for her to "die", if they were to give her a "lethal injection" of something, everyone would have a cow, so its the worse of 2 evils. Neither one being ideal. It is a terrible tragidy but at some point and time those involved must come to some type of acceptance and allow her to simply just go in peace. I am sure her parents and family as well as her DH are all going through pure hell today and yesterday and the day before as well as the past 16 years and tomorrow will be hell for them also up until her last breath and many many years after that. The tubes have been removed now its time to pray for those involved.

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YNKYH8R

I don't believe that the President and Congress did this because of religon. While the parents say it is a violation of their daughters religous rights the Cngressional intervention was solely on the basis of having the Federal court hear the case (it wouldn't before). And now the ruling stands. The hard part is going to be ging before the 11th District appeals court.

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Schiavo death should be peaceful, experts say
Removal of feeding tube would end her life in about three weeks

The Associated Press
Updated: 8:30 a.m. ET March 22, 2005


NEW YORK - If Terri Schiavo dies from the removal of her feeding tube, her passing should be peaceful, experts say.

After all, she is in a persistent vegetative state without conscious awareness, they noted.

But studies show that even patients who can speak and who have chosen to stop eating and drinking generally don’t complain of thirst or hunger, said Dr. Russell Portenoy, chair of palliative care at the Beth Israel Medical Center in New York.

“It’s as if the body has a protective mechanism at the end of life, such that loss of appetite and loss of thirst precede the dying process,” he said.

Death can take a widely variable amount of time but generally arrives within three weeks, Portenoy said.


Schiavo’s feeding tube was removed on Friday. It has been removed twice before and then re-inserted because of legal pressure, but Portenoy and Yale expert Dr. Sherwin Nuland said those interruptions in feeding should not have caused harm.

Generally, death from prolonged lack of food and water is due to dehydration, said Nuland, author of the book, “How We Die.”

Dehydration leads to kidney failure. When the kidneys shut down, levels of certain substances in the blood rise. The person slips into a coma. At some point the biochemical changes in the blood become severe enough to impair the electrical system that controls the functioning of the heart, and the heart stops beating.

“It’s usually quite a peaceful death,” Portenoy said. “The person generally looks as if he or she is drifting off to sleep, and then dies.”.

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excuseme

Sun Hudson is living proof that both G W Bush and Tom DeLay don't care anything about Terri. If she was a Texan she'd have been dead years ago by the very same bill that Bush signed into law and DeLay pushed for.

schsa

I think that the federal judge did what he could. Congress and the Senate don't want to get involved. Bush can sign whatever he wants but regardless of the decision it wil be wrong in someone's eyes.

So they can blame the judge for this decision rather than the politicians.

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dangerousfem

Actually it does not say that.... but that is a whole different debate...lol

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