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Old 07-28-2003, 06:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Give Teachers A Hand

DO TEACHERS HAVE IT EASY

The lives of educators can be rewarding or frustrating. But are they paid what they're worth?
July 28, 2003: 9:11 AM EDT
By Gordon T. Anderson, CNN/Money Contributing Writer

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - It's summertime, and the living is easy, especially if you're a schoolteacher.

Most people will find that statement either obvious or obnoxious. Those in the "well, duh" camp might note that teachers get the longest vacations of any workers in America.

Others may be offended, or at least provoked, by the suggestion that an educator's life is carefree.

Teachers work hard, after all, and the pay ranges from skimpy to merely adequate. What about that long summer break? You take it if you're lucky – many teachers must take second jobs to fill in the financial gaps.

So the debate is joined, now pick your side: Do teachers have it easy?
Low salary, short hours, or neither?

"It's an article of faith among many supporters of public education that teachers are underpaid," Ohio University economist Richard Vedder writes in a recent issue of Education Next, a policy journal affiliated with Stanford's Hoover Institution.

Vedder has stirred controversy in educational circles because of his conclusion "that teachers are not underpaid relative to other professionals."
How teachers stack up
The average annual teacher salary is $44,367. By one controversial estimate, that's about $30 an hour. Here's how some other professions compare.
Occupation Mean hourly wage Mean annual wage
Construction managers $24.96 $51,920
Finance managers $28.56 $59,400
Chemical engineers $29.44 $61,240
Physicists $33.23 $69,120
Lawyers $36.49 $75,890
Dentists $44.40 $92,350
Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics

Unions challenge that. The American Federation of Teachers recently released a survey of teaching salaries across the nation, showing that the average teacher makes $44,367 a year. In contrast, according to the AFT, a mid-level accountant makes $54,503 and a computer systems analyst averages $74,534.

Vedder's research tells a different story. Using data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, he found that on an hourly basis, teachers actually earn more than accountants, computer programmers, and even mechanical engineers.

Moreover, teachers' contracts often contain economic incentives not measured by straightforward salary surveys.

In California, teachers can get discounted mortgages and car loans, and tuition reimbursement. In Missouri, they can retire at age 55 with a pension paying 84 percent of the last year's income, plus benefits and cost-of-living adjustments.

The average public-school teacher receives fringe benefits equaling 26 percent of his or her salary, according to Vedder, versus about 17 percent in the private sector.
Two jobs better than one

A few years ago (OK, it was 20), a student at Verona High School shirked classroom instruction by pestering his teachers about their lives out of school. What did they do with their time off?

A few, like a history teacher whose spouse was an executive at Citibank, traveled to far-off lands. Others had more pedestrian holidays – you'd see them at the town pool (a jarring display of our common humanity).

Today, the song remains the same. "You name the job, and there are teachers doing it," says Janet Bass, a spokeswoman for the AFT.
Doing the math

If teachers are working second and third jobs, is it because their primary job is badly paid or because they have enough spare time to moonlight?

It's a tough question, because neither side can quite agree on how much teachers work.

"Teachers work fewer days, and fewer hours during the day, than other professionals," says David Salisbury, who directs the education project at the Cato Institute, a free-market policy group in Washington.
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Most education contracts call for teachers to be in school about 6 1/2 hours a day. That's not enough to do a proper job, say teachers.

It takes time to draw up lesson plans, prepare materials, grade tests and fill out various forms mandated by school districts. Result: a pile of homework so high it would make a valedictorian swoon.

Indeed, teachers routinely talk of having two or three extra hours of work each day, beyond the strict terms of their employment agreements. Add in unpaid supervision of extracurricular activities, helping troubled students, and a raft of other volunteer tasks, and you get even more time working off the clock.
On the frontlines

To a teacher in the field, all this addition and subtraction is almost beside the point.

A teacher with a full classroom has no breaks. There are few other jobs -- soldiers in battle, day traders -- in which workers must be so continuously plugged in.

"People forget about all the little personal things they do on the job," notes the AFT's Bass.

There's no time to make calls to friends, send e-mail, or take a peek at the news on CNN/Money.com. "Just going to the bathroom is a rigmarole," says one grade-school teacher.

Between classes, even the best-prepared teachers are often scrambling. "Stuff doesn't go up on a chalkboard by itself," says Bass.

Of course, it's not child's play to get a roomful of kids to pay attention, let alone learn. "The little brats never keep still," said one particularly disgruntled ex-teacher. (He lasted only a year.)

http://money.cnn.com/2003/07/18/pf/e...hers/index.htm
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Old 07-28-2003, 08:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I only wished I got the extras this article mentioned!! I got a small signing bonus my very first year, and then I got a stipend for teaching ESL (high demand position) and for being lead ESL teacher. BUT I had to put in a lot of extra hours that first year for ESL training, and after that, I had extra meetings and duties as lead ESL teacher, so the stipend ending up being pay for extra responsibility.

And don't even get me started on "summer vacation"
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Old 07-29-2003, 10:01 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Why dont people stop and use their brain and understand what a teacher does. What would this world be like if there werent any teachers, it sure would be in a bigger mess than it already is. A lot of parents dont want to help/work with their child so the teachers spend many extra hours with them.Teachers do a lot more than teach they also have to do a lot of parenting because it does not happen in their homes. My husband is a teacher and is told so many horror stories of what goes on in their homes. The kids have a great respect for my husband because he will talk on their level and not way above them. So what if teachers get the summer off, how many people could work with 30 kids per hour 7 hours a day. Not many people could deal with that many teenagers at one time. Teachers need to get more respect, teachers also have to deal with parents that think their child does nothing wrong, sometimes the parents are worse than the kids.
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My daughter would love to see that kind of money, she is an art teacher and has to do a lot of extras like someone has to pull bus duty, the teachers at her school takes certain days then there are committees and all the extras for the kids, working ball games, tutoring, chaporoning dances and during the summer she has to work to survive. And let us not forget that working in some schools is a dangerous job just to be there.
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...and summer vacation is NOT really summer vacation. I have gone to seminars in other cities, workshops, classes, etc, for school purposes. I have spent a great deal of time researching and preparing lessons for the upcoming school year. I spent time getting my room ready. Looking up laws and standards. All on my own time. Not being paid for those activities especially.
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Most of the teachers I work with spend their summers taking classes. In our state, they are required to take so many college courses a year. The goal is that all teachers will have a minimum of a masters degree with a PHD being preferable. So most of them take classes year round. Add that on top of staff meetings, parent meetings, school events, tutoring, district training, and their families and that makes for one very busy life. I think they deserve way more credit than they get.
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