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    CA special election May 19, 2009

    Six statewide ballot propositions will be on a special May 19, 2009 election ballot in California. The ballot measures were voted onto the ballot in a special legislative session in Sacramento the week of February 16th as a negotiated effort between Arnold Schwarzenegger, the Democratic majority in the California State Legislature and a handful of Republican legislators.[1],[2]

    Although the six ballot propositions (1A through 1F) are intended to close an approximately $42 billion budget gap, the California Legislative Analyst's Office, an agency of the state government, said in early March that tax revenues flowing into the state treasury are "well below" the projections it used earlier in the year, and that California's government now faces an additional $8 billion gap in addition to the earlier $42 billion gap.[3]

    Several statewide ballot propositions that were discussed as possible contenders for a 2009 statewide ballot will instead be on the 2010 California ballot.
    On May 19 ballot

    See also: May 19, 2009 ballot measures in California

    Proposition Description
    Proposition 1A Prop 1A combines a 4-year tax hike of about $16 billion with a state spending cap
    Proposition 1B Modification of California Proposition 98 (1998) to free up money for state's budget overruns.
    Proposition 1C Sell rights to future lottery proceeds as a way of raising some cash now for state budget.
    Proposition 1D Asks voters to approve taking money from Prop 10 in 1998 for purposes not allowed in that 1998 vote.
    Proposition 1E Asks voters to take money from Prop 63 for purposes not allowed in that 2004 vote.
    Proposition 1F No pay raises for state legislators in years when there is a state budget deficit
    Okay CA, here's the deal. The other states have bailed you out this time via the stimulus bill. Much like tough love with our children, we can't afford to enable youall on this continual spending spree. It's time to cut up the credit cards and I say that in a most loving way.

    We're gonna give you one more shot to correct the budget. If youall vote these down, and are unable to support spending cuts that are MEANINGFUL, I think every US taxpayer should request absentee ballots for the next vote whether you live in CA or not.

    If I'm going to be paying for it, I want a say in it.

    Good luck today!!

    PS, if all these taxes pass (I doubt they will), that still leaves youall with a 15B shortfall. This isn't over yet.
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    selling rights to future lottery proceeds?, that is treading in dangerous waters. Illinois has been borrowing from the pensio for years and is much worse financial straits then it ever was so how can the $$$ be paid back.

    Stupid

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    Beck Slams California Tax Hike Proposition, Calls for Real Budget Cuts
    By Jeff Poor
    May 19, 2009 - 10:56 ET


    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff-po...al-budget-cuts

    As Californians go to the ballot box to vote whether or not to increase their taxes, government leaders in Sacramento are trotting out "the usual human shields" - kindergarteners, firefighters, policemen and nurses to frighten people into voting.

    The ballot initiative, promoted by California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, has little to no chance of passing according to the Los Angeles Times. But that did stop the governor from using fear tactics, as Fox News Channel's Glenn Beck pointed out on his May 19 program.

    "What's their plan to turn the state around? They have one?" Beck said. "Yes - the Governator, he proposed $15 billion in cuts. Wow. And he warned that if his, if his propositions failed, California will need to release 40,000 prisoners out on the streets."

    The Fox News Channel host mocked this notion, as if the worst case of all scenarios would be wrapped up into one.

    "California, they're just going to do, they'll have no choice - we got to let the rapists go!" Beck said. "They're also gonna lay off more than 50,000 teachers so your children will be stupid forever. And they're going to close down the fire stations."

    Beck called the argument "fraud" despite the vivid imagery it creates.

    "How many times do we have to hear the fraudulent argument, ‘You know what - if we don't, we run out of money, you know what we're gonna have to do - we're going to have to close all the prisons down, let the rapists and murderers go out, and they're gonna be in the classrooms with your children who won't have a teacher there while the building is on fire! That's what's gonna happen!'" he said.

    "No, it's not," Beck continued. "When you literally have no government structure whatsoever, then I'll believe you got nothing less important to cut than firefighters and opening up the prisons. You can make the argument when that happens."

    Instead - Beck named a few other cuts that could be made to the California government to bridge the budget gap.

    "But when you're still spending $1.5 million for, I'm not kidding you - non-toxic dry cleaning or $40.5 million for migrant day care, or the estimated $13 billion for education, health service and other services for the state's 3.2 million illegal immigrants - and yes, I understand that they cut their budget for the sea otter program by close to half," Beck said. "They did, but before you let the murderers out on the streets, may I suggest you make the otter budget, California, look like the first letter of otter - zero."

    Hot Air's Ed Morrissey also attacked the idea that California only pays for essentials on May 8.

    "Ah, yes, because California doesn't spend money on anything but police and fire departments," Morrissey wrote. "The Governator didn't pledge six billion dollars for stem-cell research, for instance, or other non-essential nonsense. This is a typical, extortive, dog-in-the-manger ploy by Schwarzenegger and the Sacramento elite. Either give us your money, they warn, or we'll sic the criminals on you."
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    Arnold Schwarzenegger was so preoccupied with lecturing the national GOP about the need to “rebrand” itself and move left that he forgot to mind California’s own business.

    Today, his desperate tax-and-spend ballot measures are expected to all go down in flames at the polls. Tea Party activists of all political stripes have lambasted the deceptive initiatives. The intellectually and financially bankrupt state GOP is in full meltdown, having poured $650,000 into Schwarzenegger’s coffers to promote the phony spending cap measure before the state party waffled, then turned around and voted to oppose it and the other tax hikes.

    So, where in the world is the Taxinator now? After making a last-ditch pitch for his $16 billion in tax increases at black churches in L.A. (hello, church/state separation activists?) and attempting to fear-monger voters into approving the measures, Arnie has fled to Washington, D.C. today for a pow-wow with Barack Obama to celebrate — what else? — new eco-regulations on cars that will result in massive new costs imposed on drivers:

    Battling anger and indifference on the part of California voters, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger implored them Sunday not to make the state “the poster child for dysfunction” by defeating a host of measures on Tuesday’s ballot that seek to restructure the state’s bleak finances.
    After years of binge spending, open-borders welfare expansionism, environmental extremism, unchecked unionism (read: SEIU) and hostility to businesses, it’s a little late to try to prevent California from becoming “the poster child for dysfunction,” isn’t it?

    You can run, but you can’t hide:

    When the going gets tough, the tough get going and that’s what Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is doing tonight: going out of town.

    Although the governor has been arguing for months that Tuesday’s election features a package of ballot measures that are absolutely essential to California’s financial future, Schwarzenegger is leaving on a jet plane for Washington, where he’ll spend election day. And he’s not coming home in any hurry, either.

    The governor will be in DC for what his staff is billing as a major announcement: California is expected to get its long-sought waiver from the Environmental Protection Agency, which will allow the state to set higher standards for car and truck exhaust emissions.

    And Schwarzenegger plans to stay in Washington Wednesday to lobby the California congressional delegation for more budget help for the state.

    Important stuff. The tougher emissions standards are something Schwarzenegger has been working on for years and is an important past of his plan for the greening of California. And since California is looking at a $15.4 billion budget deficit under the best — and currently unlikely — circumstances, a chance to smooze the DC-based pols isn’t a bad thing.

    Still, would Schwarzenegger be making this trip if every poll wasn’t predicting an election night disaster for the governor’s budget reform package? Things are so ugly that Budget Reform Now, Schwarzenegger’s umbrella group for support of the ballot measures, hadn’t decided by this afternoon when, where or even if they were going to have an election night party.
    It will be thanks in large part to both the old guard taxpayers’ rights groups (Howard Jarvis) and the new generation of anti-Evil&Stupid Party activists from the Tea Party movement that Schwarzenegger’s ill-conceived measures go down. But the fight is far from over.

    The Taxinator is in D.C. with his hands out — and his figurative gun to the head of the rest of the country’s taxpayers. As noted last week, California wants TARP money. http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,7700998.story They’ll argue, as every other successful bailout recipient has, that the state is Too Big Too Fail.

    California did itself in. It deserves to suffer the consequences.

    Tell your congressional representatives to tell the muscle man looking to pump up his puny state coffers with everyone else’s money:

    Not one dime.

    Karl at Hot Air: http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/1...olt-what-next/

    “[M]any Americans will chafe just as much at the prospect of paying to bail out California’s decades of inept govenment as they do at paying to bail out GM’s decades of inept management. Obama would bail out California to hold onto those electoral votes, but he will have to worry about how many he loses in the process.”
    CK MacLeod: http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives...-voting-guide/

    [quote]Your official Cali budget initiatives guide. [/b]

    Har.
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    All ballots failed (no surprise), except for one. The one that said "No more raises for the politicians as long as the state carries a deficit.

    Very good! I think this means they will never get a raise, but maybe if they deserve one, youall can vote again.

    Now, you need to bombard your legislature with suggestions for cuts, because if I have to request an absentee ballot for your next vote, I fear I will be on another federal watch list.

    Good luck!!
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    California Rejects Schwarzenegger’s Budget Measures
    Michael B. Marois And William Selway
    Wed May 20, 2:36 am ET


    May 20 (Bloomberg) -- California voters rejected a package of budget-balancing measures that Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger said were needed to keep a $15 billion deficit from widening to $21 billion. A proposal to limit lawmaker pay passed.

    “I respect the will of the people who are frustrated with the dysfunction in our budget system,” Schwarzenegger said in a statement from Washington conceding defeat. “In order to prevent a fiscal disaster, Democrats and Republicans must collaborate and work together to address this shortfall.”

    Five of the propositions were failing with 64 percent of the votes counted, according to California’s elections office. The losing proposals would have capped spending and extended temporary tax increases, directed future surplus money to schools, authorized bonds backed by lottery profits and diverted already dedicated revenue to the budget.

    Lawmakers put the measures on the ballot in February as part of a compromise to close what was then a record $42 billion budget gap. Since then, the deficit re-emerged as California’s economy, which on its own would be the world’s eighth-largest, worsened amid the national recession.

    "The longer we wait, the worse the problem becomes and the more limited our choices will be," Schwarzenegger said.

    Rainy Day Fund

    Proposition 1A, which was failing 36 percent to 64 percent, would have limited state spending to inflation plus 3 percent above a 10-year average. Revenue exceeding that cap would have been deposited in a rainy day fund that could only be spent during deficit years. Any surplus amounting to more than 12.5 percent of the general fund would have been available for one- time needs or to pay down debt. The measure also would have extended three temporary tax raises approved in February.

    Proposition 1B would have required the state to pay $1.5 billion from the rainy day fund to schools for six years starting in 2011. It was failing 39 percent to 61 percent.

    Proposition 1C, which would have allowed the state to sell $5 billion of bonds backed by future lottery proceeds and use the money for the budget, was losing 37 percent to 63 percent.

    Proposition 1D would have allowed the state to strip $600 million over five years from a program that spends tobacco tax revenue on children’s health. It was failing by a 36 percent to 64 percent margin.

    Proposition 1E would have allowed lawmakers to siphon $250 million a year from a mental health services program financed by an income-tax increase approved by voters in 2004. It was losing 35 percent to 65 percent.

    Meg Whitman

    Proposition 1F, which prohibits state lawmakers and elected officers from salary raises in years when the state is running a deficit, was winning 75 percent to 25 percent.

    “The fact is, right now, Californians do not trust Sacramento or the political process by which the budget is crafted, and they cannot afford higher taxes,” Meg Whitman, the former EBay Inc. chief executive officer who plans to run for California governor, said in a statement.

    The budget approved in February raised $12 billion in taxes, cut $16 billion in spending and spent $8 billion of federal stimulus money. It also relied on $6 billion that would have been raised had the ballot measures won.

    Credit Ratings

    The three major credit rating companies, citing the magnitude of California’s deficits, reduced the grades on more than $46 billion of bonds in February and March. Now, California’s full faith and credit pledge is rated A by Standard & Poor’s and an equivalent A2 by Moody’s Investors Service, five grades below the top investment ranking. California is the lowest-rated U.S. state.

    A California general obligation bond maturing in 2038, which traded for as little as 81.5 cents on the dollar on Dec. 4, went for 96.4 cents to yield 5.5 percent on May 19, according to Municipal Securities Rulemaking Board data. That compares with 5 percent for top-rated municipal general obligation bonds, as measured by a Municipal Market Advisors index.

    Schwarzenegger proposed on May 14 cutting another $6 billion in spending, half from schools and colleges, to close the new gap. He said more cuts, such as releasing 19,000 illegal immigrants now held in state prisons, would be necessary with voter rejection of the ballots measures.

    Schwarzenegger has also proposed that the state borrow $6 billion of two-year cash flow warrants. He said more short-term borrowing would be needed later in the year, especially if the measures were rejected.

    California Treasurer Bill Lockyer petitioned U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner to arrange for the federal government to become a standby purchaser of the short-term loans in the event of default.

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    The turnout was pathetic about 20%, but the voters have spoken.
    I think the tea party idea is starting to work. We are all saying loud and clear "no more taxes" we need to make them balance the state budget like we all need to balance our own budgets. As it is they have driven out so many taxpayers and that will leave us will a large percentage of those that live off the hard work of others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SurferGirl View Post
    The turnout was pathetic about 20%, but the voters have spoken.
    I think the tea party idea is starting to work. We are all saying loud and clear "no more taxes" we need to make them balance the state budget like we all need to balance our own budgets. As it is they have driven out so many taxpayers and that will leave us will a large percentage of those that live off the hard work of others.
    I saw that, I hope you voted

    I think they will get another bailout, then I think it's time for citizens from every other state write and ask how we get registered to vote in CA.

    Our state just went through a big budget wrangling. They lost electricity and STAYED to get the budget finished. We had to make some really tough choices and cut spending. They got it done.

    The Feds should DEMAND that CA do the same thing, make some choices and STOP picking into MY pockets. CA citizens should lock them all into the building. NO ONE comes out without a balanced budget.

    Remember when Gingrich and Clinton shut down the government. I loved that!
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    California Treasurer Bill Lockyer petitioned U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner to arrange for the federal government to become a standby purchaser of the short-term loans in the event of default.
    Well that's just great, let's buy junk bonds. Maybe Congress will authorize printing another trillion dollars and cause another 10% inflation. Hey! That's a great idea, let's continue to devalue the dollar.

    Dimwit politicians.....
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    The vote went exactly the way I voted.
    The problem with California is we have too many tax and spend Democrats.
    Our state needs to learn the hard way that it has to live within it's means.
    If the government would cut out waste that alone would be a huge savings.

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    What the Sacramento Bee really thinks of voters

    “As expected, the liberal establishment will characterize voters as tantrum-throwers. When initiatives go their way, voters are wise, smart, discerning citizens. When initiatives fail miserably, the electorate is a moronic mob.”
    Case in point: The Sacramento Bee’s sneering editorial flipping the bird to Californians who overwhelmingly rejected the tax-and-spend ballot measures (title: “You did it! Uh, so now what?”). After getting called out not only by hometown readers, but also nationally by Rush Limbaugh, the Bee yanked the editorial and replaced it with a kinder, gentler piece that did a complete 180 — from denigrating voters to counseling politicians that “You can blame the voters for reacting with uninformed and misplaced anger. Or you can look in the mirror and admit you had it coming. And you know you did.”

    Blaming the voters? Reacting with misplaced anger? I smell projection. Guess the Sacto Bee editorial board had a look in the mirror.

    The newspaper says it neeeever intended to publish the original editorial. Andrea Shea King http://radiopatriot.blogspot.com/200...des-after.html and Dave Logan have the scoop http://thirdwavedave.blogspot.com/20...editorial.html

    An editor told Logan the original rantings were just random notes. Just “thoughts.”

    Yes, just “thoughts.” Thanks to copy-and-paste and caching, California voters will always know what the Sacramento Bee really thought of the election results and how they really think of the peons who buy their newspaper. Or used to buy it.

    We don’t call them the media elite for nothing.

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    Aside: I survived a few years on a predominantly liberal editorial board in Washington state, which also has the initiative/referenda process — and I can tell you from firsthand experience that the contempt the Sacto Bee showed in its original “draft” editorial towards voters who didn’t vote their way is the same contempt I saw at the Seattle Times.
    http://michellemalkin.com/2009/05/21...nks-of-voters/


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    More from: Doug Ross http://directorblue.blogspot.com/200...us-attack.html Mark Steyn http://corner.nationalreview.com/pos...E3NTgzMjdmMTU=
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