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    Sorry about that Jolie. In Wisconsin, the only reason for termination of a government employee is "if they are under the influence of something" while on the job, and it interefer's with their work. I'm sure a drug test was taken. So, in other words you can murder someone, leave them in a levee, walk away, let them drown, and back to work, totally wacked out. BUT come Monday when you do go back to to work, you better be sober. NO CONSEQUENCES. P.S. if she was under the influence she would have been suspended, while being investigated, and able to return to work, (if rehab) get her old job back -- even if it takes maximum of 2 years since date of incident. Then the position becomes OPEN for employment or transfer. Government employee's do not get terminated (other then the under the influence), but are allowed to quit.

    You can thank the UNIONs for that one. NOW I'm only referring to her level of employement, HIRED, not elected. Can't get access to elected officials contracts, "if" they exist?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeBnutt View Post
    Sorry about that Jolie. In Wisconsin, the only reason for termination of a government employee is "if they are under the influence of something" while on the job, and it interefer's with their work. I'm sure a drug test was taken. So, in other words you can murder someone, leave them in a levee, walk away, let them drown, and back to work, totally wacked out. BUT come Monday when you do go back to to work, you better be sober. NO CONSEQUENCES. P.S. if she was under the influence she would have been suspended, while being investigated, and able to return to work, (if rehab) get her old job back -- even if it takes maximum of 2 years since date of incident. Then the position becomes OPEN for employment or transfer. Government employee's do not get terminated (other then the under the influence), but are allowed to quit.

    You can thank the UNIONs for that one. NOW I'm only referring to her level of employement, HIRED, not elected. Can't get access to elected officials contracts, "if" they exist?.
    WOW So gross incompetence and illegal actions are not enough to terminate ?? WOW And some wonder what is the "problem" with Unions ?
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    Top Dem: Walker 'lied' to govern Wisconsin --*

    MADISON, Wis. - Republican Scott Walker "lied" to win Wisconsin's governorship and should be ousted, the state's top Democrat said as his party prepared to force a recall vote.

    "I think that he fundamentally lied to the people of Wisconsin when he ran for governor," state Democratic Party Chairman Mike Tate told WISN-TV, Milwaukee, as the party prepared to deliver more than 720,000 signatures Tuesday calling for a recall election -- about 18,000 more than required.

    "He didn't talk to them or tell them about how he was going to govern," Tate said. "He didn't tell them he was going to give a big tax break to millionaires and billionaires and raise taxes on the working poor."

    This is in addition to Walker's curtailment of collective-bargaining rights for public workers last year, which led to weeks of mass protests, including an occupation of the state capitol building, Tate told the TV station.

    The bargaining-rights curtailment -- which Walker said was needed to close a projected $3.6 billion deficit in the coming two-year budget -- became the leading edge of a wider fight over public workers and collective bargaining in statehouses elsewhere, including Ohio, Michigan, Iowa and Indiana.

    Recall organizers need 540,208 valid signatures, or a quarter of the November 2010 votes cast that put Walker in office last January, to force a recall vote. The election would also give voters a change to remove Republican Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch and four Republican senators.

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    Dem' s motto "Never Give Up, Never Surrender"? .... "If at first you don't succeed, try try again" ??
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    Scott Walker retains governorship in Wisconsin recall race
    By Rachel Rose Hartman | The Ticket – 2 hrs 50 mins ago.


    Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker retained his governorship Tuesday night, besting Democrat Tom Barrett in a race that was a referendum on Walker's decision to take on public employee unions. Walker led Barrett, who was the governor's 2010 opponent and is the current mayor of Milwaukee, 55 to 41 percent with 76 percent of precincts reporting. Walker beat Barrett in 2010 with 52 to 46.5 percent.

    A Walker win is a huge coup for the tea party movement, which rallied tea partyers across the country, as well as for fiscal conservatives and reform-minded Republicans. Walker was targeted last year for a recall by state and national labor groups, progressives, students and others who viewed his decision to push for an end to collective bargaining by state public employee unions as an attack on middle class America. "Tonight, Wisconsin voters rewarded political courage," Republican Governors Association Chairman Bob McDonnell said in a statement. McDonnell highlighted Walker's efforts as an attack on the "status quo" and against "unsustainable entitlements and long-term fiscal liabilities" and hailed the governor's actions to close the state deficit, reduce property taxes and improve schools. "His actions have made Wisconsin stronger today, and tomorrow. And they have improved the lives of the citizens of Wisconsin."

    Walker's efforts in Wisconsin drew support from the tea party, fiscal conservatives and many prominent Republicans across the country who personally and financially supported the governor in his recall race. Walker raised more than $30 million for the recall, according to estimates, compared to $4 million raised by Barrett, and Walker had several heavy-hitting outside groups in his corner, including the billionaire Koch brothers, who head up a nonprofit called Americans for Prosperity.

    While Walker received public support from figures such as Mitt Romney, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan, Democrats did not flock to Barrett's campaign. Though Bill Clinton did campaign for Barrett, Barack Obama did not--a decision Republicans pointed to as evidence of Barrett's weak standing. The president's campaign this week offered last-minute get-out-the-vote messages for Barrett via Twitter and via a campaign video, though it did not feature the president.

    The win by Walker will be viewed as a significant blow to big labor, which has been fighting stories of the movement's demise. Polls, campaign finance figures and anecdotal evidence consistently showed Republicans winning an advantage in terms of voter enthusiasm and energy.

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    Unions had a place at one time. Now however, they generally do more harm than good, in my opinion. You have no choice, if you do not join you cannot work. I feel it is extortion. Glad he retained his post. Yes, government employees are the worst. There is very little accountability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolie Rouge View Post
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    Scott Walker retains governorship in Wisconsin recall race
    By Rachel Rose Hartman | The Ticket – 2 hrs 50 mins ago.

    Walker's efforts in Wisconsin drew support from the tea party, fiscal conservatives and many prominent Republicans across the country who personally and financially supported the governor in his recall race. Walker raised more than $30 million for the recall, according to estimates, compared to $4 million raised by Barrett, and Walker had several heavy-hitting outside groups in his corner, including the billionaire Koch brothers, who head up a nonprofit called Americans for Prosperity.http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/s...010044710.html
    See that... Don't know about the 'Tea Party' of if 'they' the media, just love putting them as Republican backup, nothing here was done by them per se.

    Barrett is calling that illegal solicitation where Walker 'toured the country campaigning' and raised millions of dollars, another reason for recall (possible suit pending). umm... did he forget that since Walker won the primary a few weeks ago, that the UNION and the DNC refused to spend another penny in Wisconsin for Barrett and is saving that money for Obama? YET, Barrett would not mention or answer any question what his plans are 'if' he became Governor, nor would any of his staff.

    Get this, Jessie Jackson was at Barretts 'celebratory' place, and stated it was 'the state's (governor's) responsibility to give Milwaukee money to pi$$ down the drain to stimulate its economy (readers digest version). (Barrett's wife was staff at a Milwaukee school, and was terminated like the rest of them last summer to re-apply for their jobs, she didn't get re-hired, she went across the county line to get work, and that says a lot about her.)

    All this because the Democrats ran and hid in Rockford for a few weeks to avoid voting. (Don't know if the state picked up their 'hiding' finances or not.)

    FYI all REPUBLICANS WON THEIR RACE, with a basic 2 to 1 (60% to 40%) with the exception in one country, complete landslide.

    AFP was wonderful, they were the reason for the 30 million, and nothing like picking up the phone and its Chris Christie from NJ making sure you will be voting for Walker. Last 5 days of living hell, every 90 to 120 minutes the phone rang.

    I already sent a complaint to Madison, because Milwaukee kept its polls open after 8pm so people can still vote. (Outcome obviously doesn't matter.)

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    The Wisconsin state election graphic that says it all (UPDATED)



    The graphic was taken from the Huffington Post Election results page, which you can view here http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/...ll-results#map

    On the more comedic end of things, watch this CNN interview from last night with a Tom Barrett supporter who was in tears, claiming, “democracy died tonight.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=vEwXa197uBU

    Comedy. Gold.

    Is it ok to gloat a little (ok – a lot) the day after a hard fought victory? For the politicos involved, not so much (btw, one Senate seat is still being determined, and the Democrat is now barely leading in that recall effort), but for pro-freedom, pro-smaller government types who have been under siege – in some cases literally – by left wing union thugs who were bound and determined to stay on that taxpayer-funded gravy train, YOU BETCHA.

    Enjoy the day, peeps. Enjoy it.

    Update – 11:00 AM: On the not-so-sunny side of things comes this: http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/loc...9bb2963f4.html

    MILWAUKEE — The Milwaukee Police Department says it’s evaluating threats made against Gov. Scott Walker through social media.

    An email from police department spokeswoman Anne Schwartz says all threats are handled seriously and can be a criminal act. It says people cannot assume anonymity via social media while issuing a threat to another’s safety or life. Schwartz declined to elaborate.

    Authorities say the Wisconsin Department of Justice’s Division of Criminal Investigation is also looking into the threats. [...]
    Surprise, surprise.

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    Tea Party 1 Union Thugs 0
    by Daniel Horowitz (Diary) Wednesday, June 6th at 9:08AM EDT


    It's often frustrating how we are forced to go to battle with the left on the bandwagon of flaccid and uninspiring Republicans that lack core principles. That was not the case last night when Scott Walker won his decisive victory against the best efforts of the union thugs in Wisconsin. Scott Walker is a man who sought power not for power’s sake, but to implement the free market reforms that he campaigned for. That sort of intrepid decisiveness is what inspired a following of savvy Tea Party activists. That is what made all the difference.

    Only a few months ago, conventional wisdom dictated that Scott Walker would be sacrificed on the altar of Big Labor as they were prepared to throw their biggest punch ever – a punch worth $21 million. At the very minimum, it was clear that Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch would be replaced by a union-friendly thug who would act as a thorn in the side of Walker for the rest of his term.

    The actual results? After voters saw that Walker delivered on his promises, they gave him more support than in 2010. He won by 7 points, carrying 60 of 72 counties. He also won 36% of union households and 54% of independents. Kleefisch won by a similar margin. And that’s with same-day registration that is able to spawn “118% turnout” in urban areas!

    People often wonder whether we can beat the juggernaut of Democrat machine politics. Based upon historic results, there seems to be conflicting data. The reality is not an enigma. It takes three elements; a committed and principled Republican, money, and ground game. We had all three in Wisconsin and we were able to crush the union machine with its full prowess.

    Remember that Walker is the first governor to survive a recall effort. The fact that the opposition is able to mount a successful petition drive usually indicates that the incumbent is unpopular enough with a lot of people. That was unfortunately the case in Wisconsin too. There are enough dependent voters who are gullible to the misinformation propagated by the media/union complex. They were enough to constitute a large minority. But the Tea Party turned out to be a stronger force.

    Yet, the Tea Party only mobilized for a man with the principled integrity of Scott Walker. Walker needed the Tea Party, but the Tea Party needed a candidate like Walker to support. If we are looking to replicate this success in other states, it is this model – the symbiotic relationship between the Tea Party and a devoted, inspiring conservative – that will win the day. The Tea Party is ready to roll. Thanks to their dedicated activists and high tech GOTV tools like American Majority Action’s Gravity, they can replicate the model is all states that are relevant to winning a majority in November. AM Action, The Wisconsin Recall Action Fund, and many other Tea Party organizations performed superbly on the ground. They did so because there the Tea Party was actually represented on the ballot.

    They are ready to take the show on the road for November. The question is do we have the candidates – from president on down to Congress – to inspire the minions of liberty-loving patriots?

    http://www.redstate.com/dhorowitz3/2...union-thugs-0/

    June 6, 2012
    A 'bad night' for whom?

    Once they actually started counting the votes, Gov. Scott Walker's victory was never in doubt. He ultimately beat opponent Tom Barrett 53 to 47%, with something in the vicinity of 125,000 more votes than he received in 2010. That's a mandate with a cherry on top. Of course, some people aren't what you'd call happy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEwXa197uBU

    Here's Walker's victory speech: http://www.therightscoop.com/awesome...ictory-speech/

    Yes, ordinary people who did extraordinary things. (Five minutes in.)

    NRO: http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...nbowed-editors
    His enemies spent a year and a half preparing to take their best shot at him. And a combined total of $100 million or so later, they missed. They missed because voters are starting to understand that governing through crisis requires someone willing to make unpopular choices, stand up to entrenched interests, and hold the line against loud and determined opposition.

    Quite simply, Wisconsin voters realized that if they no longer had Scott Walker, they would have to invent him.

    To great comic effect, David "You Can't Handle The Truth" Axelrod http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...the_truth.html tried to spin Walker's victory as good news for Obama, based on the same exit polls that had Barrett and Walker in a 50-50 dead heat. Yeah, those. Axelrod tweeted: https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/sta...w_p=tweetembed

    Bad night in Boston...WI raises big questions for Mitt.
    Why yes, it does. It means the state that went for Obama by 14 points in 2008 may now be worth fighting for. Check out #axelrodtweets for some analogous "bad nights."

    Jonah Goldberg: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...jonah-goldberg
    Even so, the idea that Obama is happy tonight because of his lead over Romney in Wisconsin is the shallowest, lamest, spin of this hugely important night which has significance far beyond just the presidential election. But even looking at presidential politics alone, this is a terrible night for Obama and the Democrats. Obama is now catawampus with organized labor generally and public sector unions specifically. Organized labor is now losing an existential struggle and not just in Wisconsin. Their resources are threatened as union dues dry up wherever they are forcibly extracted from workers. They have to choose between working for Obama’s political survival or their own. Obama, meanwhile, has to worry about how to get back in their good graces and revive their enthusiasm at precisely the moment he should be worrying about moving to the center.
    http://www.punditandpundette.com/201...-for-whom.html
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    Scott Walker's Wisconsin recall victory: 4 lessons
    By The Week's Editorial Staff | The Week – 9 hrs ago


    Wisconsin's Republican governor gets to keep his job, delivering a big blow to organized labor. Still, Democrats may have won a big consolation prize
    Wisconsin's Scott Walker (R) became the first U.S. governor to survive a recall election, beating Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett (D), 53 percent to 46 percent — about the same margin as when they faced off in 2010. Walker's victory is a big blow to organized labor and the state's Democratic Party, though they may have won a consolation prize: In one of Tuesday's four State Senate recall votes, former Sen. John Lehman (D) won back his seat from Sen. Van Wanggaard (R) by a slim 779 votes — it'll probably require a recount — giving Democrats control of the upper house. Here are four larger lessons from Tuesday's elections and the yearlong recall effort that preceded it:

    1. Unions are in big trouble : "There's no sugarcoating what this loss means for organized labor," says Greg Sargent at The Washington Post: Unions pushed this recall to make an example of Walker, and its "failure will have major repercussions for labor groups as they gear up for future fights over bargaining rights in states" around the country. The most demoralizing thing for the unions, say Jim VandeHei, Robin Bravender, and David Catanese at Politico, is that they started this effort with huge amounts of public enthusiasm, but just when it looked like unions "were roaring back to life.... they lost the political and public relations wars — and they never saw it coming." And when unions are in trouble, so are Democrats.

    2. Conservatives can win on bold ideas "Wisconsin isn't just any other battleground state, and Walker's victory wasn't just a victory for a person, but also for a GOP political philosophy of courageous conservatism," says John Dickerson at Slate. Like Wisconsin's other "bold" Republican star, Rep. Paul Ryan (R), Walker pushed big conservative reforms and stuck to his guns when the going got tough. Now, "Walker has faced the full force of organized labor and liberal outrage," and his victory ensures that you'll be hearing a lot more about him going forward.

    3. Money talks, loudly Both sides dumped more than $63 million into this recall race, but Barrett was "outspent 10 to 1 (or worse)," says Chris Cillizza at The Washington Post. It's hard to overcome those odds. Walker alone spent $30 million, a crazy amount in a state of fewer than 6 million people, say Politico. But in the world of super PACs and relaxed donor rules, "this is the new normal." Wisconsin was essentially "a test lab, an incubator for outside groups to test ads, mobilization, micro-targeting, and the dark arts of robocalls and voter suppression" — and in November, every competitive race "will look like Wisconsin — on steroids."

    4. Moderates are important In exit polls, "President Obama managed to win a seven point lead over Mitt Romney in an electorate that was voting for Scott Walker," and, in fact, 1 in 6 Walker voters preferred Obama to Romney, says E.J. Dionne at The Washington Post. "Who were the Walker-Obama voters?" Moderates and independents, mostly, many of whom opposed the idea of recalling a governor over policy disputes instead of official misconduct. Barrett actually won moderates, just not by a big enough margin. The national lesson here is that in a year where Republicans and Democrats are gearing up for a partisan brawl, "turning out your own supporters is essential. But so is fighting for the pure swing voters."


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    Lesson #5: If you pick the fight, don't whine when you get a beat down.

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    Let's examine just how dumb the recall election was. Walker was elected two years ago to fix the budget and prevent the State from going bankrupt and having to fire government employees (yes, teachers, police and firefighters). Wisconsin had an unemployment problem, just like the rest of the Country and the "only" solution to all of these problems was to raise taxes.

    So what did he do? He applied conservative principles to the problem. He jumped under the hood and determined Wisconsin had a spending problem. He made government workers pay part of the bill for their benefits, just like the private sector. They still pay less than the private sector. Knowing that the public sector unions were the source of the fiscal problems and that mandatory enrollment in the unions impinges on personal freedom, he made participation in the unions voluntary and abolished the benefit negotiations for all union members (except police and firefighters).

    The results? From billions in deficit to millions in surplus. No loss of government jobs. A gain of 30,000 private sector jobs. Lowering of property taxes. All positives, right? For the 70% of the union members that opted out of the mandatory membership and dues, they found out that the cost to them for their benefits was more than paid for by not paying union dues.

    Not according to liberals or unions. They apparently would have preferred that the State go bankrupt to protect their interests. The Democrats in the legislature fled the State thinking that would stop the process. "If we don't vote, then this can't pass".

    It passed. So, they ginned up enough petitions to get a recall. In other words, their response to the successes was to try to fire the guy that kept his promise and saved the State. Is it any wonder many people consider liberalism a disease?

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    I am sure the Union leaders are asking who was the jerk that thought this recall up. I would say a shake up of Union leaders is in the making

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    But the MOST important lesson of all: NEVER trust the Liberal Media to give correct pre-election Poll Numbers.

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    As a centrist the Wisconsin recall was not about Republicans VS Democrats, but rather organized labor keeping a foot hold on Government workers at the expense of every tax payer in America, No Government entity what so ever should be Governed by an Organized labor union, None. Unions in the private sector have driven Blue collar jobs overseas and with no return, the greed and power of the unions have effectively ruined what they stood for when labor unions were great, Now it is time to get rid of all Unions in the Government sector and refuse to elect any incumbent or candidate that does not, this is all about getting our country back, this and voting third party at every chance, Good Job Wisconsin, now make it a right to work State.

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    New Day, I agree with you to a point but at the same time I think trying to destroy the Unions is wrong. Collective bargaining over some things including pay is still necessary. When you have CEO pay skyrocketing yet the average employee pay stagnant at best and in some cases declining, it creates a situation that needs to be rememdied. The middle class is being squeezed and the sad part is that we keep voting in the people that are doing it. The gap between the Rich and the Poor is the highest that it has been in almost 100 years. Why are we telling the average employee that they should be able to make it on $35,000/year but then tell a the CEO that the $25 Million package wasn't big enough to cover his expenses? What sense does that make and why doesn't anyone seem to want to ask the question?

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    Walker stated what he was going to do when he was running for office. He followed through on what he said he was going to do, and turned a $1.6 billion deficit into a projected surplus next year. Can Obama say that??? Walker was able to run on his record and back it up with facts. Can Obama do that??? The people of Wisconsin knew what they were getting when they voted for this man, and he came through. Can the Obama voters say the same thing???
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    True lessons learned = 1. Union thuggery days are OVER ! 2. The left wing lamestream media will spin a buttspanking into a " win " for Osambo out of slavish devotion to him. 3. The people are fed up with Democraps, libbytards, unions, and Osambo is next ! 4. Libbytards will be enrolling at the Osambo Tall Buildings Base Jumping Academy in droves this November. No tuition , one class, no parachute !

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    Walker won by a far bigger margin than the first time. How bout we go again? 3 out of 5 dems?

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    Part of the spin is that all "organized labor" has been attacked and limited. That IS NOT TRUE. This was a case of the Governor trying to deal with the unfair power of the unions who represent government employees (remember Reagan dealing with the air controllers?) . The other unions are scared that their power to force members to give the union money to spend supporting Democratic Party candidates who, in return, agree to give in to the unions demands for high salaries and retirement and health care packages nobody in the private sector gets. This incestuous relationship is wrong! Individual union members should have the right to give money the candidates of their own choice, or not give anything to any candidate. Certainly, they should not have part of their paycheck automatically become a part of the Democratic Party's treasury. Can you imagine the outcry if corporations would make workers agree to donate to the Republican Party as a condition of having a job? In a sense, the present arrangement allows the Unions and the Democratic Party to force corporations to give them money. No wonder they are fighting to keep the status quo.

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    10 Signs your campaign dreams are over.......and 1 Bonus Reason

    1) You wake up on January 1, 2012 and realize that you have done NOTHING to justify the faith the American people had in you when they elected you.
    2) You threaten the Supreme Court and suddenly realize that the rest of America will not back you up. Federal judges lecture you on the relationship between the executive and judicial branch, and assign homework to make sure you get the point.
    3) You realize that you are president of a country whose deficit has increased over 53% in the 3 1/2 years you have been in office.
    4) You realize that you are president of a country that, for the first time in history, has 42 MILLION living below the poverty line, and that you have done NOTHING to help that situation.
    5) You realize that you are president of a country that has the largest number of home foreclosures in history, and that foreclosure rate is about to explode all over again.
    6) You realize that the national unemployment rate has exceeded an OFFICIAL rate of 8.2%, and is in excess of 20% when those whose benefits have expired are counted.
    7) You realize that your microphone was on when you promised the russians that you would be "more flexible" to soviet ways after you won the election. Yes, mister president, a LOT of people heard you.
    8) You realize that you are president of a country that has awakened to the fact that you are trying to exercise dictatorial powers while bypassing congress and the supreme court. Those 34 czars you appointed without congressional approval are starting to irritate the general public, and america is waking up to the fact that you trampled the bill of rights with a little piece of legislation titled NDAA 2012.
    9) You realize that you are president of a country that you have helped to turn into the largest food stamp nation in the world. Mr. President, you have helped to place 1 in 7 americans on the food stamp program, and you have made ZERO efforts to improve that situation.
    10) You realize that you are the president of a country that is trying to unionize all family farms in america, and trying to regulate and control the rights of farm children to grow up learning their family's work values. Trying to institutionalize and destroy agricultural family values is at the top of the list of marxist doctrines and will not be tolerated in america!!

    Bonus Reason; One of your attorneys has spilled the beans about your fake birth certificate, and has entered that information into the court records in New Jersey. Google "obamas-lawyer-alexandra-hill-admits-image-of-obamas-birth-certificate-was-a-forgery". Hawaii’s recent certification of the fraudulent birth certificate only proves that Hawaii is complicit in this scam.

    GOODBYE MISTER OBAMA!

    On his "4 Lessons":
    1) GOVERNMENT unions are (and should be) in trouble. Taxpayers don't pay for non-govt. unions.
    2) Conservatives can win on "average/common sense" ideas. Like NOT having to pay for everyone else.
    3) $$$ has always talked. Obama is the master "fundraiser" and was elected by Soros.
    4) Moderates were the difference in BO's last campaign, but know better this time. Obama's numbers drop DAILY.
    Obama wants to talk about Mitts high school days, create gender wars, method of dog transportation......Mitt wants to talk economy and jobs. Which do you think Americans want to talk about ??

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    BO is a used car salesman in the area and is very popular, he is always advertising in the local newspaper and boosting about how is serving the local people. There is no evidence of his claims, but the newspaper he advertises in is owned by a close friend and besides he benefits from all the advertisements. Considering that he is so popular with the local news I decided to purchase a used car from him. He bragged about how he was taking care of his customers and could save all of them money on good used cars. I bought a car from him and a few days later found out the interest on my loan was 3 points higher than what the local bank was advertising and after the 90 day warranty ran out the transmission went out and while they were overhauling it they checked the brakes and informed me they were wore out and the car was using so much oil it would never pass inspection. Then the mechanic asked me if anyone was hurt in the accident the car had been in. I had to borrow more money to pay for all the repairs. While waiting on my car I picked up the news paper and there on the front page was a big picture of Mr. BO and an article about how popular he is in the area. I need a car for my son now, should I buy another one from Mr. BO, according to the news he is well liked and very popular in the area?

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    Public Employee Unions are a joke.........as if they have a right to hold the Tax Payers hostage...........You know, willing to let the entire state go down the tubes fiscally in order preserve thier own Status Quo, thier own Political power, and thier own death grip on our educational system. It's time to add competition to the mix..... Charter Schools are a great start.......The people are tired of Failing Schools, High Taxes, and Public Debt....All of which cause Businesses, and citizens alike, to leave or look elsewhere.

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    Fiscal Sanity Is Contagious: California Cities Pass Pension Reform

    As Wisconsin voters stood by Governor Scott Walker and his collective bargaining reforms, voters in California--of all places--passed pension reforms by voter initiative in both San Diego and San Jose. It is yet another sign that Americans--even in traditionally liberal states--are rejecting the high-spending, big government, big labor policies of Barack Obama and his labor-dominated Democrats.

    In a statement, California GOP Chairman Tom Del Beccaro noted:

    The Election results tonight in both California and Wisconsin prove that voters have an appetite for government reform. In two of California’s largest cities, voters passed substantial pension reform. Perhaps most interesting is that this wasn’t a partisan cry for reform; even in a large city such as San Jose which has heavy Democrat registration, taxpayers stood up against union bosses and big government. Governor Brown and the Democrats in California would be wise to listen to the voters.

    Whether Brown--or Obama--will pay attention remains to be seen. But the rest of the country is on the same wavelength.



    Wisconsin's real lesson for Barack Obama http://news.yahoo.com/what-scott-wal...nlwYWdl;_ylv=3
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    I really hope the rest of the country starts to wake up and question the current administration as they did in Wisconsin. Time to undo all the harm and take our country back.

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    MSNBC declares Obama winner of the Wisconsin recall
    By Jeff Poor - The Daily Caller | The Daily Caller – Tue, Jun 5, 2012


    "Tonight the really big winner in the Wisconsin recall election is President Obama,” MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell said at the top of his Tuesday program after parent network NBC called the race for Gov. Scott Walker over Democrat Tom Barrett.

    Over the past several months, the left-leaning hosts at MSNBC have put a lot of emphasis on the Wisconsin recall, saying it was important for current Walker to be defeated in order to maintain the American middle class. “John Heilemann, I said at the top of the show that President Obama big winner tonight because in the exit polls we saw today that, they were asked, ‘Who would you for president today?’” O’Donnell explained. “Fifty-three percent in Wisconsin, 53 percent say President Obama. Only 42 percent say Mitt Romney. That is — if not the recall outcome — that outcome for President Obama has to be very encouraging.”

    Later in the program, O’Donnell said he was basing his declaration off the exit polling for the Wisconsin recall, which some have said leaves much to be desired.
    Heilemann took the unconfirmed exit polling data and called it “very encouraging.”

    “Very encouraging, Lawrence, and something that the campaign in Chicago sent out as a news release as soon as the earliest exit polls showing the president with the lead came through. They think that Wisconsin is a state that’s pretty solid for them. It’s been blue for a long time.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/msnbc-declares...031805354.html

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    Jon Stewart Takes a Whiff of Wisconsin and It Stinks
    By Dino Grandoni | The Atlantic Wire – 15 hrs ago.


    The Daily Show, like the cable news programming it mocks, got local last night and took a close look at the Wisconsin recall election. Reluctantly turning to cable's talking heads to learn "what's at stake," Jon Stewart finds out that had Scott Walker not been reelected he would have suffered one of "the worst indignities for an elected official" and that Wisconsin will be on a verge of becoming as freedomless as China at the hands of teachers' unions. On that first point, we think Eliot Spitzer would beg to differ, but no matter. Despite the inflated rhetoric, this recall election is democracy at its finest. Or at least it would be if either party stopped whining and blaming the other side for having to participate in it.

    http://news.yahoo.com/jon-stewart-ta...125246532.html

    THE RECALL HEARD AROUND THE WORLD

    I watched the Wisconsin returns on MSNBC Tuesday night, and it came right down to the wire between "the Democrats were outspent 7-to-1" and "Republicans are stripping union rights!" As we go to press it's still too close to call. President Obama wanted to go to Wisconsin, but he just didn't have time. He's been doing so many campaign fundraisers lately he barely has time to play golf.

    The left's "outspent" argument is ridiculous. Unions take money by force from members, hire hundreds of political operatives and give them salaries to work on campaigns, then call them "volunteers" so their work isn't reported as a campaign contribution. Luckily for them, government employees' non-punishing work schedules leave them plenty of time to be in a constant state of grievance, demanding recalls after any election they lose, and mobilizing voters.

    This election had nothing to do with people being paid a fair wage for the work they do. The question is: Do you want a society where the people whose salaries you pay make more than those who pay them? The Democrats will do anything the government unions ask, because (1) It's not their money they're spending, it's the taxpayers'; and (2) Government unions reciprocate by making sure the Democrats keep getting re-elected.

    Gov. Andrew Cuomo is about to turn New York into Pottersville from "It's a Wonderful Life" by legalizing gambling so he can keep paying the unions. All manufacturing has been driven out of the state by high taxes -- and by well-compensated government employees who make it impossible to do business in New York. The state's principal cash cow, New York City, is now entirely composed of a tiny slice of Wall Streeters and the people who serve them –- personal trainers, doormen, maids, doctors, lawyers, restaurateurs and Keith Olbermann's cat groomer.

    Outside of New York City, everyone works for the government. But there's no actual industry in the state. People are fleeing New York faster than Democrat legislators fled Wisconsin before a vote they were going to lose. Soon it will be just another mid-range, dying state. If the financial sector ever leaves, New York City will be Detroit, which itself was once the nation's crown jewel metropolis. So Cuomo's going to bring in casinos to save public sector salaries, perks and pensions. Democrats don't care that gambling destroys neighborhoods and ruins lives. They will do anything to keep government employees happy. They'll legalize drugs or sell body parts to keep paying off public sector workers.

    There's a reason both FDR and labor leader George Meany said it would be insane to ever allow government employees to unionize. People who work for the government don't have a hard-driving capitalist boss on the other side of the bargaining table demanding more work for less pay. No one is worried about the profit margin because there is no profit -- it's government! Rather, the only people on the other side of the table are the unions' co-conspirators: Democratic politicians willing to spend the public treasury on union members, who will repay the politicians by mobilizing voters.

    This is why Walker's victory Tuesday night was an amazing, miraculous, transformative event in the history of the nation. Even the Terminator couldn't beat the government unions. In the dumbest move ever made by a politician, in 2005, two years into Arnold Schwarzenegger's first term, he called an off-year special election to enact a few minuscule reductions in public-sector union perks, such as making it humanly possible to fire bad teachers. Even in a normal election year, initiatives curbing government employees' boondoggles are nearly impossible to get past the powerful unions. But worse -- as in Wisconsin -- this was an off-year election. Unlike Wisconsin, however, it was Schwarzenegger's idea to hold a special election on the advice of his political consultant, Mike Murphy, the Bob Shrum of the Republicans.

    Let's see, who would be likely to vote in an off-year election? We're going to cut your exorbitant benefits, require you to work, and make it easier to fire you, public employees. Do you have any interest in voting on that? Anyone with half a brain could see disaster coming from a mile away. Even with the language barrier, Arnold should have seen it coming. Within weeks, Tony Quinn, a California Republican consultant, stated categorically: "The governor needs to cancel this special election, regardless of the political cost, because he's headed for a huge political defeat."

    But Schwarzenegger's adviser, Murphy, was brimming with confidence, dazzled by the governor's celebrity status. He gloated, "He's still Arnold Schwarzenegger." (Murphy never saw "Twins.") Public sector unions spent a jaw-dropping $80 million to defeat Schwarzenegger's initiatives, portraying the governor as the enemy of cops, teachers, firefighters and "people like us."

    Mike Murphy: "I am confident we will win."

    In the end, union members turned out in droves on Election Day, defeating every single initiative. Everyone else in California woke up the next day and said, "Hey, did you know there was an election yesterday?" The failure of Schwarzenegger's propositions ended his governorship. From that day on, he became the Democrats' plaything.

    The 2010 census marks the first time California has lost population since it became a state. The decision to call an off-year special election to roll back public employees' perks will long be remembered as the all-time stupidest idea in political history. One hundred years from now it will still be studied at the Kennedy School of Government.

    Wisconsin made history in a different way Tuesday night. As Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch said, the recall election will go down in the record books as the night "the campaign to save America" began.

    http://news.yahoo.com/recall-heard-a...230010477.html
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