Thread: Enough Of The Mob

Originally Posted by mikej

Maybe Obama should run his town halls the same way Bush did. He can get the head of the local Democratic party to send out invitations to the party faithful and set up a "free speech" zone 4 blocks away for protesters! Now that was democratic!

: Truth to Power ! That is exactly how the DNC ran the Denver Democratic National Convention in 2008. Politicians are all the same type of animal whatever the color they call their stripes; if you think eigther "Party" is concerned for their "constituants" you are kidding yourself. The only "Two Party" system anymore is "THEM" versus "US".

Originally Posted by mikej

That Michelle Malkin. She sure knows how to malign those kiddies!

P.S. I should think that supporters would be far more likely to attend a town hall than those who oppose an elected official. That's just me, though.

And just what that really accomplish? The idea behind Town Hall meetings is to give the people (both sides of the fence) to speak their minds. It isn't suppose to be just one sided.

Originally Posted by speedygirl

Mob is just a word. People need to rise above that. Who cares if someone calls then mobs. Mobs can mean anything from a large group of unruly people, a large gathering to organized crime. It the scheme of healthcare reform being called a mob is insignificant. And people that keep crowing about the word mob could be using that energy to get their opinions out there about what needs to be done. I wouldn't take offense to name calling by people who don't give a sh!t about me personally.


I personally thing the author of the above article got it right....

I have to disagree with you here speedy. The use of the word "mob" in reference to those that are willing to stand up and be heard on this subject is being used to damage the credibility of their concerns and opinions. It would be one thing if it was just the media using the term, but when you have our elected officials using the term to describe their constituents, then I really think that is a problem.

An elected official should not stand up and use derogatory terms in reference to those they are elected to serve. They are there to deal with these problems, whether they agree with them or not. If the majority of their constituents are disagreeing with a bill that is up for consideration then they should take the time to find out why and maybe for once, listen to the people.

Originally Posted by tngirl

I have to disagree with you here speedy. The use of the word "mob" in reference to those that are willing to stand up and be heard on this subject is being used to damage the credibility of their concerns and opinions. It would be one thing if it was just the media using the term, but when you have our elected officials using the term to describe their constituents, then I really think that is a problem.

An elected official should not stand up and use derogatory terms in reference to those they are elected to serve. They are there to deal with these problems, whether they agree with them or not. If the majority of their constituents are disagreeing with a bill that is up for consideration then they should take the time to find out why and maybe for once, listen to the people.

The point I was making that the word mob shouldn't be the thing that motivates and riles people up. It detracts from the real issue at hand. People need to rise above name calling b/c all it does is deflect away from the real issue.
Seriously, who cares what names you're called when you have something bigger to accomplish. I agree that no elected officials should do any name calling, it shows a lack of self control.

ETA; Basically don't let the word mob detract from a goal. It's taking the bait. People get called something for so long that they become that thing.

Originally Posted by speedygirl

The point I was making that the word mob shouldn't be the thing that motivates and riles people up. It detracts from the real issue at hand. People need to rise above name calling b/c all it does is deflect away from the real issue.
Seriously, who cares what names your called when you have something bigger to accomplish. I agree that no elected officials should do any name calling, it shows a lack of self control.

ETA; Basically don't let the word mob detract from a goal. It's taking the bait. People get called something for so long that they become that thing.

Exactly, I think they (the 'powers') are trying to deflect what the people are actually trying to say/ask/etc. by name calling, sending in thugs, etc. and generally doing whatever they can to distract from their purpose. Creating ruckuses where there wouldn't be any only to publicize the ruckus to make them look bad burying the real purpose for their being there in the media created frenzy.

And the word 'mob' is definitely being used on purpose to give those people a derogatory spin.

Profile in congressional cowardice
By Michelle Malkin • August 18, 2009 11:24 AM

Yesterday afternoon, I noted that Florida Democrat Rep. Alan Grayson was taking sanctuary in a union hall for his hastily scheduled town hall meeting.

How did it go?

The Orlando Sentinel was there and profiled the craven and cowardly performance : http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-a...,4616127.story

Grayson’s hastily called meeting took place in the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers union hall, which limited attendance to about 120 members of the public. It also was scheduled just after a regular meeting of local Democrats, some of whom stayed behind for the town hall in the scarce seats.

Outside the building, hundreds of frustrated people who could not get inside waved signs and chanted for and against the proposals. Police cars blocked off the streets in an attempt to calm protesters. Overall, the event was peaceful, but police said one man was arrested. Witnesses said he pushed another person trying to record the event on a camcorder. By the time it was over about 10 p.m., police nearly outnumbered those outside.

So many people were chanting early on that what they said was often unintelligible. At one point, Andy Showen, 49, of Orlando, angry he couldn’t get in, pulled on a side door until police officers stopped him. “You’re a real hero,” he told an officer. “You just stopped me from talking to my congressman.”

He put up his wrists, asking officers to arrest him. They walked him away instead.

Despite the shouting, some voters actually talked to one another. Earlier, Showen, who described himself as a “libertarian capitalist,” talked with a woman who said capitalism was immoral, he said. They never agreed on health care but shared similar views on executive pay.

Others were annoyed and unmoved.

“I’ve given up,” said Carmen Simeone, who opted to protest outside. “I understand what’s going on. He’s stacked the deck.”

PJ Gladnick has more at Newsbusters. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gla...n-hall-meeting

Rachel Pereira was there. http://pereiraville.com/scribble/?p=8193

Reader Lawrence e-mails:

“Alan Grayson (D-FL) falsely claimed the Town Hall at Union Hall was announced 72 hours in advance and promoted by multiple media outlets. We contacted FOX 35 News in Orlando who stated they were notified “last night” and said they have been contacting Grayson’s office as well as Suzanne Kosmas’ daily. Grayson only announced this last night after having arranged it with OFA and HCAN and the IBEW with their publicity march on Friday.”

You won’t be surprised to learn that Grayson employed the human kiddie shield strategy by bringing his own three children to the meeting and repeatedly invoking them when things got heated. : :

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/18...nal-cowardice/





Last week, I noted that constituents in Democrat Rep. Betsy Markey’s district were so frustrated they announced plans to hold a town hall meeting with her in abstentia.

She then released a list of extremely limited-access meetings with voters — with a ceiling of 20 constituents at a time.

Denver-based blog PPC reports that Rep. Markey will be playing etiquette czarina by handing out “an abridged version of’ ‘Rules of Civility & Decent Behavior in Company and Conversation’ — attributed to George Washington but likely a simplified version of rules written by French Jesuits dating to 1595.”

El Presidente at PPC writes: http://www.peoplespresscollective.or...-for-civility/

We have no problem with calls for civility.

Of course, this would be a lot less risible if her call also applied to union thugs and ACORN operatives.

The limited access (aside from being AWOL for nearly half of August), however, is shameful–this in stark contrast to Rep. Mike Coffman (R-CO), who held four consecutive town halls last Thursday to accommodate hundreds of constituents who showed up in Arapahoe County.

No word on whether Markey will bring kiddie human shields to protect her, too.

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/18...uette-czarina/

Comments :

Democrats who think they can communicate with their district 20 constituents at a time are the same politicians who think they can pay off Obama’s multi-trillion dollar debt $20 at a time. I think there’s a word for this type of thinking: “small-minded”.




On August 18th, 2009 at 4:37 pm, tiredofit08 said:
I’d support this guy…

American liberals, leftists, social progressives,socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters, et al:

We have stuck together since the late 1950’s, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly,this relationship has run its course.Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right so let’s just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.

Here is a model separation agreement:

Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that,it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.

We don’t like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we’ll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military.

You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O’Donnell (You are,however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them)…

We’ll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies and illegal aliens. We’ll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO’s and rednecks. We’ll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood ..

You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we’ll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us.. You can have the
peaceniks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we’ll help provide them security.

We’ll keep our Judeo-Christian values.. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism and Shirley McClain. You can also have the U.N.. but we will no longer be paying the bill.

We’ll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.

You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors.We’ll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right. We’ll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I’m sure you’ll be happy to substitute Imagine, I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya or We Are the World.

We’ll practice trickle down economics and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you, we’ll keep our history, our name and our flag.

Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I’ll bet you Answer which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

Sincerely,
John J. Wall
Law Student and an American

P.S. Also, please take Ted Turner, Sean Penn, Martin Sheehan, Barbara Streisand, & Jane Fonda with you.

P. S. S. And we won’t have to press 1 for English.

I hope that everyone that attends gives her a copy of the US Constitution!

On August 18th, 2009 at 4:26 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

Does that mean they should extend the pinky when they give her the middle finger?

NOW THAT’S FUNNY


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