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09-07-2007 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by
Bahet
Not here I can't....
Uh oh....LMAO did u change my user title again LOL
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Originally Posted by
tngirl
In my opinion, if we did away with the welfare system all together, more people would be inclined to actually get out and work. Or maybe families would get back to the way they used to be...families used to take care of their own.
As a person who deals with "assistance" folks...Ii agree with you!!! It burns me up everytime I see the crap!!! I say TOTALLY do away with it!!!!
R.I.P. Hannah Girl Girl mommy misses you already. I love you!
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The whole idea of welfare is to assist people in need with everyday expenses to exist. If a person on welfare is able to save, that would denote that they are getting too much. The money they are given is for them to spend on necessities and is not meant to give them a savings account.
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as someone who had a need for welfare years ago, and now just gets medical assistance, I can see where saving could be considered wrong. But for those of you who have never been on it, you need to realize that some people only get foodstamps, or medical (which is my case right now)
not everyone, in fact, very few here in Milwaukee get a cash subsidy in addition to food and or medical. Tommy Thompson changed the welfare system from it's former self and it forced thousands of people off the rolls. People who weren't ready or equiped to be off assistance. In turn, food pantries were wiped clean, thousands had their power shut off, people were dying trying to heat their homes any way possible. People were evicted, crime went up, bank robberies are at an all time high right now, and in my neighborhood, where crime is pretty low, there have been 2 armed bank robberies within 2 weeks, all within blocks from my apartment.
To say these people should not be able to save is utterly wrong.
You do not understand the situation, and if you have never been in the system, you only know from you are told, by the media.
Do not blame the people who are trying to put their lives together, and need assistance to do so, it is their right.
There is no need to look down on them, yes of course there are lazy people who sit and collect benefits, HOWEVER, they do not get to enjoy it for very long, because of strict rule changes there are so few actually getting all 3 benefits of the system.
A better solution to the problem would be classes to help people manage and save, classes to help people open and keep checking acounts, saving accounts. Classes to help people understand home ownership, child rearing classes, and birth control.
and most importantly, JOB SKILLS.
People, you don't realize the "skills" they try to teach those on the rolls.
In one instance, anyone who was getting cash assistance had to show up at a warehouse, and for 8 hours, sort bottle caps. Once done, the supervisor would dump them all out on your table, and you would start all over again.
Can somebody please tell me what "skill" that fell into??
There is also an "ambassador" program that recently started up here, the participants are welfare recipients, what do they do??
walk around the neighborhood, and mow lawns, or pick up garbage.
The lady who helped run the program was quoted as saying "I'm not going to teach them how to patch a roof or fix computers here"
Um, so then how does the mad cycle of welfare stop??
The skills they are trying to teach will never get any recipient ANYWHERE except back through the revolving door, just like jail.
If it really angers you that your taxes are paying for these people, then get proactive, and stop complaining, because unless you have been there, you really can't understand how bad some of these people really have it.
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Have you evre heard of a thing called financial aide? It is this great thing that helps poor people go to college.
It is the Right of the People to Alter or Abolish Government
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Financial aid the Pell grant only pays for so much then it is cut off. Then you have to apply for a grant in your field of choice if there is one. Then the choice is a loan and if you don't get a job right away or say you don't get to graduate let me tell you from experience the worse people are the ones that give out financial aide to students when you default they hound you worse then most collectors.
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