Thread: Undercover at Planned Parenthood

Originally Posted by Bahet

There is no harm. Unless of course you are talking about making the woman pay for that too and I'm sure you are. I had good insurance when I was pregnant with my boys. I don't remember how much an ultrasound costs because insurance covered it. There are millions without any insurance though so I have to wonder how much it would cost them? Anyone know the going rate?

I also don't see the harm in trusting that a woman knows what she wants and is capable of making a decision all by her wee little self.

It can be several hundred to over a thousand depending upon the type you're having done. All of our patients are insured by law here in MA.
I don't see the harm in that either. I believe that the ones struggling to make a decision and are on the fence need a short bit of time.

Originally Posted by krisharry

Someone can correct me if i am wrong, but I think the early an abortion the less risk for the woman.

You are correct.

[b]Report: Unsafe abortions kill 70,000 annually
By DAVID CRARY, AP National Writer David Crary, Ap National Writer 39 mins ago
NEW YORK – Increased contraceptive use has led to fewer abortions worldwide, but deaths from unsafe abortion remain a severe problem, killing 70,000 women a year, a research institute reported Tuesday in a major global survey.

More than half the deaths, about 38,000, are in sub-Saharan Africa, which was singled out as the region with by far the lowest rates of contraceptive use and the highest rates of unintended pregnancies.

The report, three years in the making, was compiled by the New York-based Guttmacher Institute, which supports abortion rights and is a leading source of data on abortion-related trends. Researchers examined data from individual countries and multinational organizations.

The institute's president, Sharon Camp, said she was heartened by the overall trends since Guttmacher conducted a similar survey in 1999, yet expressed concern about the gap revealed in the new report.

"In almost all developed countries, abortion is safe and legal," she said. "But in much of the developing world, abortion remains highly restricted, and unsafe abortion is common and continues to damage women's health and threaten their survival."

The report calls for further easing of developing nations' abortion laws, a move criticized by Deirdre McQuade, a policy director with the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops' Secretariat for Pro-Life Activities.

"We need to be much more creative in assisting women with supportive services so they don't need to resort to the unnatural act of abortion," she said.

Guttmacher estimated previously that the number of abortions worldwide fell from 45.5 million in 1995 to 41.6 million in 2003 — the latest year for which global figures were available.

A key reason for that drop, the new report said, was that the portion of married women using contraception increased from 54 percent in 1990 to 63 percent in 2003 as availability increased and social mores changed. Guttmacher's researchers said contraceptive use had increased in every major region, but still lagged badly in Africa — used by only 28 percent of married women there, compared with at least 68 percent in other major regions.

The report notes that abortions worldwide are declining even as more countries liberalize their abortion laws. Since 1997, it said, only three countries — Poland, Nicaragua and El Salvador — substantially increased restrictions on abortion, while laws were eased significantly in 19 countries and regions, including Cambodia, Nepal and Mexico City.

Despite this trend, the report said 40 percent of the world's women live in countries with highly restrictive abortion laws, virtually all of them in the developing world. This category includes 92 percent of the women in Africa and 97 percent in Latin America, it said.

The survey concluded that abortion occurs at roughly equal rates in countries where it is legal and where it is highly restricted. The key difference, according to the report, is the high rate of deaths and medical complications from unsafe clandestine abortions in the restrictive countries.

"Legal restrictions do not stop abortion from happening. They just make the procedure dangerous," Camp said. "Too many women are maimed or killed each year because they lack legal abortion access."

In one example, the report told of a Nigerian woman named Victoria who first tried to induce an abortion by drinking an herbal concoction, then consulted a traditional healer who inserted leaves in her vagina that caused internal injuries.

The report estimated that 19.7 million of the 41.6 million abortions in 2003 were unsafe — either self-induced, performed by unskilled practitioners or carried out in unhygienic surroundings.

"Almost all of them occurred in less developed countries with restrictive abortion laws," said the report, which estimated that — beyond the tens of thousands of women killed annually from unsafe abortions — another 8 million women suffer complications because of them.

The report makes three major recommendations:

_Expand access to modern contraceptives and improve family planning services.

_Expand access to legal abortion and ensure that safe, legal abortion services are available to women in need.

_Improve the coverage and quality of post-abortion care, which would reduce maternal death and complications from unsafe abortion.

Camp, in an interview, said sub-Saharan Africa is the area of greatest concern to Guttmacher and like-minded groups. The status of women remains low in many of those countries, she said, while political and religious conservatives block efforts to liberalize abortion laws.

Although the Vatican remains officially opposed to use of contraceptives, Camp said her institute had detected a shift in approach.

"The Catholic Church has informally at least stopped fighting against contraception to the degree it once did and put more of its energies into fighting abortion," she said. "On the ground there are priests and nuns who refer people to family planning services."

McQuade, of the Catholic Bishops Conference, said any priest or nun making such referrals was veering from church policy. She contended that use of artificial contraception could increase a women's health risks and said they would fare better using natural family planning methods approved by the church.

Overall, the report is "a good news/bad news story," said Susan Cohen, the Guttmacher Institute's director of government affairs, who hailed the decline in abortions and unintended pregnancies.

"The bad news is that where most of the poor women live, throughout the developing world, unsafe abortion remains high, and women are dying as a result of it," she said. "It's so preventable, and that's the tragedy."

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Associated Press writer Meera Selva in London contributed to this report.

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On the Net:

http://www.guttmacher.org/



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_aborti...BvcnR1bnNhZmU-

The government-subsidized abortion racket is at it again — and undercover journalist Lila Rose and her Live Action team are exposing the Planned Parenthood predators in full effect.

The latest investigative video shows doctors and nurses in Appleton, WI advising a young girl that having an abortion is “much safer than having a baby.”

If Demcare passes, expect untold millions more of your tax dollars to be shoveled into this kind of abortion-first “counseling.” Take note of the thumb-fiddling by the ghoulish abortionist who’s been at it for 40 years:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIXHr...layer_embedded

In the undercover video, when the two women ask a Planned Parenthood counselor if the pregnant woman’s 10-week-old unborn child has a heartbeat, the counselor emphasizes “heart tones,” and answers, “Heart beat is when the fetus is active in the uterus–can survive–which is about seventeen or eighteen weeks.” On the contrary, embryologists agree that the heartbeat begins around 3 weeks. Wisconsin informed consent law requires that women receive medically accurate information before undergoing an abortion. http://www.liveaction.org/index.php/projects/rosaacuna

The counselor then says, “A fetus is what’s in the uterus right now. That is not a baby.” Dr. Polhaska, the abortion doctor, insists, “It’s not a baby at this stage or anything like that.” Polhaska also states that having an abortion will be “much safer than having a baby,” warning, “You know, women die having babies.”

The video comes one month after the widely reported resignation of Planned Parenthood clinic director Abby Johnson. Johnson left her leadership position at Planned Parenthood in Bryan, TX after watching a 13-week old fetus being aborted in her clinic on ultrasound. She said during a recent interview, “Planned Parenthood really tries to instill in their employees and the women that are coming in for abortions that this is not a baby.” In another interview, she noted, “They don’t want to talk about when your baby has a heartbeat,” because “they don’t want to give the woman information that could give her a connection with her baby.”

The investigation is organized by Live Action, a nonprofit student group. Lila Rose, the 21-year-old UCLA student and Live Action president, says medical lies and manipulative counseling are routine at Planned Parenthood, the nation’s largest abortion chain.

“They will do or say anything in order to sell more abortions to more women, whether it is covering up sexual abuse or lying to women about medical facts,” says Rose. “Our team has visited dozens of Planned Parenthood clinics undercover. Planned Parenthood, while claiming to support patient self-determination, operates with an ‘abortion-first mentality.’”

The video is the first in Live Action’s “Rosa Acuna Project,” a multi-state undercover audit documenting Planned Parenthood’s abortion counseling. Planned Parenthood has come under fire recently after Live Action’s investigations found them willing to conceal sexual abuse and accept donations targeted to abort African-Americans only. Videos of abuse cover-up prompted state investigations of Planned Parenthood and diversion of the abortion giant’s public subsidies.

“Planned Parenthood is a billion-dollar organization with nearly $350 million of government funding, and stands to gain hundreds of millions more from national health care,” says Rose. “Do we really want to subsidize an organization that gives women in need atrocious misinformation and predatory abortion practices?”

Steven Ertelt at LifeNews has the latest regarding Harry Reid’s Kabuki theater on abortion funding in the Demcare bill: http://www.lifenews.com/nat5751.html

Now that the Senate has defeated the Nelson amendment, an authentic attempt to prohibit taxpayer funding of abortions in the government-run health care bill, pro-life advocates are concerned that Senate leader Harry Reid could use a manager’s amendment to insert phony language.

The amendment could also see authentic language included with the intent of removing it later in the legislative process.

Reid will likely sponsor a manager’s amendment at the end of the debate on the bill that would make several changes to it — including watering down the public option so he can get 60 votes to pass the pro-abortion legislation.

Reid will likely use the amendment as a way to get the much-needed vote of Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska, the sponsor of the amendment to stop the abortion funding.

Nelson has said repeatedly he will filibuster the final bill if it keeps abortion funding, but Reid could insert phony language that placates Nelson enough without truly prohibiting the funding of hundreds of thousands of abortions.

Reid talked vaguely about that potential after the vote.

“If in fact he doesn’t succeed here, we’ll try something else,” Reid said of Nelson before the vote. “I’m happy to continue working with Sen. Nelson with the issue that is now on the floor.

Nelson said he still hopes there is a way to ban the abortion funding, but appeared to indicate he wasn’t sure what kind of language would do that short of his amendment.

“I had no Plan B,” Nelson said. “Maybe somebody else has a Plan B, but I don’t see that this is one where there’s really any room for compromise.”

Republican Senator Tom Coburn, a pr-life Oklahoma legislator, has already said he fears the manager’s amendment will be used to get the votes of Nelson and other lawmakers who may potentially vote against the bill.

He went as far as saying he thinks the Nelson amendment, (named as the Stupak amendment in the House) could appear in the bill to placate Nelson — only to see it removed during conference committee.

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/12/09...hood-pt-99997/


Yesterday, President Obama lectured the GOP to “stop trying to frighten the American people.” http://www.realclearpolitics.com/pol...ring_amer.html

Tell it to Democrat Rep. Jan Schakowsky, who’s invoking “back alleys and hangers” in her attacks on moderate, pro-life Democrats and Republicans who oppose Demcare government subsidies for abortion http://nalert.blogspot.com/2009/12/j...e-without.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpfSa...layer_embedded


http://michellemalkin.com/2009/12/10...caring-people/


Berkeley sends wire hangers to politicians
Carolyn Jones, Chronicle Staff Writer
Thursday, December 10, 2009

The city of Berkeley mailed coat hangers to 20 members of Congress on Wednesday in protest of the anti-abortion amendment in the House version of the federal health care bill.

The City Council approved the action 7-1 on Tuesday night. Councilman Gordon Wozniak dissented; Mayor Tom Bates was absent.

Metal coat hangers were mailed with a protest letter to members of the House of Representatives who voted in favor of the amendment but have a history of supporting abortion rights.

The amendment would ban coverage of abortion for those who would receive government-run health insurance. It would also forbid people from choosing a private plan that covers abortion if they receive federal subsidies to pay for the insurance.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...1ODQ.DTL&tsp=1

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Teen pregnancy rate up after 10-year decline
By Joanne Allen
Tue Jan 26, 9:05 am ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The U.S. teen pregnancy rate rose in 2006 for the first time in more than a decade, reversing a long slide, a U.S. think tank reported on Tuesday.

The overall teen pregnancy rate was up 3 percent in 2006, with a 4 percent rise in the rate of births and a 1 percent rise in the rate of abortions, according to the report by the Guttmacher Institute.

The United States has higher rates of teen pregnancy, birth and abortion than in other Western industrialized countries.

There were 71 pregnancies per 1,000 U.S. girls aged 15-19. In 2006, 7 percent of all teenage girls got pregnant, according to the report.

Fewer black teenage girls got pregnant, closing a gap with Hispanic teens. But rates among both groups were still significantly higher than for white teens, the report said, and rates went up for all ethnic groups.

"We're not quite sure yet whether this is just a blip or whether it's the beginning of a longer upward trend," Larry Finer, Guttmacher's director for domestic research, said in a telephone interview.

"It's interesting to note that this flattening out of the rate and the increase in the rate is happening at the same time that we've seen substantial increases in funding for abstinence-only programs," Finer said.

"We do know that when we saw the big decline in the '90s, that a lot of that decline was due to improved contraceptive use among teens."

The abstinence-only programs, backed by many social conservatives who oppose the teaching of contraception methods to teenagers in U.S. schools, received about $1.3 billion in federal funds since the late 1990s.

The Obama administration's 2010 budget eliminated spending for abstinence-only, shifting funds to pregnancy prevention education that include abstinence along with "medically accurate and age-appropriate" information.

New Mexico led the states with the highest teenage pregnancy rate with nine percent, followed by Nevada, Arizona, Texas and Mississippi.

New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine, Minnesota and North Dakota had the lowest rates of teen pregnancies.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100126/...ancy_teens_usa

Controversial Ga. billboards link abortion, race
By Errin Haines, Associated Press Writer
Sun Feb 14, 12:54 pm ET

In this photo made Thursday, Feb. 11, 2010, an anti-abortion billboard is shown in Atlanta. The eyebrow-raising ads featuring a young black child are an effort by the anti-abortion movement to use race to rally support within the black community. The reaction from black leaders has been mixed, but the 'Too Many Aborted' campaign, which so far is unique to only Georgia, is drawing support from other anti-abortion groups across the country.

(AP Photo/John Bazemore)

ATLANTA – The message on dozens of billboards across the city is provocative: Black children are an "endangered species."

The eyebrow-raising ads featuring a young black child are an effort by the anti-abortion movement to use race to rally support within the black community. The reaction from black leaders has been mixed, but the "Too Many Aborted" campaign, which so far is unique to only Georgia, is drawing support from other anti-abortion groups across the country.

"It's ingenious," said the Rev. Johnny Hunter, national director of the Life Education and Resource Network, a North Carolina-based anti-abortion group aimed at African-Americans that operates in 27 states. "This campaign is in your face, and nobody can ignore it."

The billboards went up last week in Atlanta and urge black women to "get outraged."

The effort is sponsored by Georgia Right to Life, which also is pushing legislation that aims to ban abortions based on race.

Black women accounted for the majority of abortions in Georgia in 2006, even though blacks make up just a third of state population, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Nationally, black women were more than three times as likely to get an abortion in 2006 compared with white women, according to the CDC.

"I think it's necessary," Cheryl Sullenger, senior policy adviser for Operation Rescue, said of the billboard campaign. "Abortion in the black community is at epidemic proportions. They're not really aware of what's actually going on. If it shocks people ... it should be shocking."

Anti-abortion advocates say the procedure has always been linked to race. They claim Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger wanted to eradicate minorities by putting birth control clinics in their neighborhoods, a charge Planned Parenthood denies.

"The language in the billboard is using messages of fear and shame to target women of color," said Leola Reis, a spokeswoman for Planned Parenthood of Georgia. "If we want to reduce the number of abortions and unintended pregnancies, we need to work as a community to make sure we get quality affordable health care services to as many women and men as possible."

In 2008, Issues4Life, a California-based group working to end abortion in the black community, lobbied Congress to stop funding Planned Parenthood, calling black abortions "the Darfur of America."

Pro-Life Action League Executive Director Eric Scheidler said a race-based strategy for anti-abortion activists has gotten a fresh zeal, especially in the wake of the historic election of the country's first black president, Barack Obama, who supports abortion rights.

"He's really out of step with the rest of black America," Scheidler said. "That might be part of what may be shifting here and why a campaign like this is appropriate, to kind of wake up that disconnect."

Abortion rights advocates are disturbed. Spelman College professor Beverly Guy-Sheftall called the strategy a gimmick. "To use racist arguments to try to bait black people to get them to be anti-abortion is just disgusting," said Guy-Sheftall, who teaches women's history and feminist thought at the historically black women's college. "These one-issue approaches that are not about saving the black family or black children, it's just a big distraction," she said. "Many black people don't know who Margaret Sanger is and could care less."


On the Net: Too Many Aborted: http://www.toomanyaborted.com

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100214/...tion_race_card

The abortion debate needs to include the forgotten fathers
Gary Bauer – Fri Jun 18, 12:13 pm ET

Washington – Anti-abortion advocates have long contended that abortion produces two victims: the unborn child, and his or her mother, who, a mounting body of research affirms, risks physical and emotional injury.

But there is evidence that abortion often involves a third victim, one who is typically dismissed when he is acknowledged at all: the child’s father.

Postabortion syndrome, a variant of post-traumatic stress disorder, is a subject of considerable controversy. Planned Parenthood and other abortion advocacy groups maintain that the emotional effects of abortion are “largely positive.” But it is now beyond dispute that after having an abortion, many women experience negative emotions, running from mild regret to deep depression.

There have been at least a dozen studies in peer-reviewed journals that point to a significant link between abortion and depression. Beyond the data, rising prominence of groups for women who have abortions like Project Rachel and Silent No More punctuate that abortion’s emotional impact can be profound and wide reaching.

Recognition of this has made its way to our highest court.

The US Supreme Court cited postabortion pain in its 2007 decision upholding a ban on certain types of late-term abortions. Writing for the majority, Justice Anthony Kennedy stated that it was “self-evident” and “unexceptional to conclude” that “some women” who have abortions suffer “regret,” “severe depression,” “loss of esteem,” and “other ills.”

If it is no longer remarkable that many women are harmed emotionally by abortion, it is worthwhile to consider whether some men areas well.

Studies have shown that some men have negative emotional experiences akin to postpartum depression after the birth of their child.

In an article in the May issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association, researchers at the Eastern Virginia Medical School examined 43 previously published studies involving 28,000 male and female adults and found that at least 1 in 10 fathers became depressed after the birth of their child.

A study in the Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology even found that half of male partners experienced varying degrees of psychological malaise following their partner’s miscarriage.

If a man can feel negative emotions after every other type of pregnancy outcome, why not after an abortion?

A 2009 study in the journal Public Health examining the associations between abortion and relationship functioning found that “for men and women, the experience of an abortion in a previous relationship was related to negative outcomes in the current relationship.â€

It also discovered that an “experience of an abortion within a current relationship was associated with 116 percent and 196 percent increased risk of arguing about children for women and men, respectively.”

Men whose current partners had an abortion were more likely to report jealousy (96 percent greater risk) and conflict about drugs (385 percent greater risk). The authors conclude, “[A]bortion may play a vital role in understanding the [causes] of relationship problems.”

It may be difficult for some to understand why men would react negatively to a partner’s abortion. After all, men are often as much a part of reproductive decisions as the women themselves. Surveys of women who had an abortion reveal that they often feel direct or indirect pressure to abort the child from their partners.

But in a culture that teaches that “it’s her body, her choice,â€

In Planned Parenthood of Missouri v. Danforth, the Supreme Court ruled that the state was not required to notify or obtain permission from the husbands of women seeking abortion.

Either way, it is something of a taboo for men to talk about feelings of loss or guilt after their partner has had an abortion. Women, after all, are the ones who carry the physical and physiological burden of pregnancy, and they are the ones who are often abandoned to address the consequences of reproductive decisions.

Many men who have watched their partners go through an abortion, some probably feeling shame over having failed in their responsibility to protect and provide, try to repress their feelings.

To many, abortion has become a normal and acceptable part of reproductive health care. One abortion takes place about every 25 seconds in America (based on the Guttmacher Institute’s estimate of 1.2 million abortions in 2005, the last year for which comprehensive data were available) making it one of the most common surgical procedures. But the effects following the abortion of one’s child should not ever be discounted when making that kind of decision. Not for the mother, and not for the father.

Gary Bauer, former US presidential candidate, is president of American Values and chairman of the Campaign for Working Families, as well as a father of three and grandfather of one.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20100618...VhYm9ydGlvbmQ-

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Abortion was never for me, I can understand why someone would think they were as a good idea however. Of all the women I know, who did go through with abortions, I only know of two that didn't seem to have horrid emotional after affects. Each of them remembers the date of their abortions, like I recite the dates of my childrens births. I guess I suggest that there be plenty of counseling before going in for the abortion. And yes, women need to remember that there is more than just them involved in a pregnancy. Fathers, sisters,brothers,grandparents, on and on.

The undermining of parental rights by Planned Parenthood continues to be exposed
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/16/us/16abortion.html
LifeSiteNews.com, Feb. 14, described the details of a recently obtained 2008 police report documenting the case of a pregnant teen who was held hostage by a staff member at a Kennewick, Washington, Planned Parenthood facility.
The unnamed 14-year-old, 22 weeks pregnant, was held by staffer Andrea Smasne at the facility against the wishes of her father and against police directives. Because the baby’s father was a 20-year-old under police investigation for sexual misconduct, the pregnancy was considered statutory rape, meaning her father was responsible for her.

But Smasne saw it differently. The staffer continued to refuse the father access to his daughter, claiming the girl was afraid of him, until Officer Wayne Meyer intervened. When he asked Smasne to release the girl, he was told she was “emancipated.”
Meyer said,

I then asked Smasne how old the patient was. She advised the female patient was 14 yoa. I then asked why they would tell the father he had to leave if his juvenile age daughter was there. At that point Smasne stated that once the juvenile is pregnant, the juvenile is emancipated, and further stated the father had no right to be present if the patient did not want him there.

He then contacted the City Attorney’s office to verify the emancipation question and was told “A Juvenile is not emancipated simply by becoming pregnant” and further, “becoming emancipated required a Court process.” The attorney also advised a criminal investigation of Planned Parenthood if such documentation couldn’t be provided.

Democrat Rep. Gwen Moore: Abortion is better for unplanned babies than having to eat Ramen noodles
By Michelle Malkin • February 17, 2011 11:41 PM

The House is currently debating the GOP proposal to de-fund Planned Parenthood.

Abortion radicals are raging mad.

Raging mad that Republicans are exposing the abortion predators with story after story of criminal negligence, death, and exploitation at America’s taxpayer-subsidized death clinics.

Raging mad that Republican women dare to talk about the psychological harm and trauma to young women lured to Planned Parenthood and kept in the dark about abortion alternatives.

And mad that Republicans are describing in graphic detail the procedures used to rid the world of The Unplanned.

Most macabre abortion defense of the night so far: Just a little while ago on the floor (at approx. 9:05pm Eastern), Wisconsin Democrat Rep. Gwen Moore argued that abortion was better for unplanned babies than a life “eating Ramen noodles” or “mayonnaise sandwiches.”

Or, as Lori Ziganto summed it up: “So according to DemRep Moore, there is NO right to life. But there is a right to NO Ramen.” http://twitter.com/#!/snarkandboobs/...53099953659904

Celebrate life: Eat your Ramen.

I still do!

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SteveEgg notes that Rep. Gwen Moore is from Wisconsin. “Not a sterling day for Wisconsin Democrats between the state Senate and Gwen Moore.”

Annoy an abortion radical: Share your mom’s favorite Ramen recipe.

Twitter lit up tonight with Ramen references after my Tweet on Moore here. http://search.twitter.com/search?max...bortion&rpp=25 Dumb House floor remarks used to just fade away. Now, they dwell forever on the InterWebs.

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Jill Stanek notes another jaw-dropper from Democrat Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee: “This is not about abortion, this is about saving lives.”

I’m sure that’s what Philadelphia Horror doc Kermit Gosnell said every time he picked up his death scissors, too.

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Update: 12:00am Eastern Debate ended. Final vote on the Pence de-funding amendment was postponed until the Hosue votes on all the continuing resolutions at the same time. Steve Ertelt has a wrap-up: http://www.lifenews.com/2011/02/18/h...ed-parenthood/

Abortion advocates said if Planned Parenthood loses its place at the government trough that women would be hurt.

“Planned Parenthood has provided health services to one in five American women,”Rep. Nita Lowey of New York said.

Rep. Barbara Lee of California called the amendment a “war on women” and Rep. Jan Schakowsky said Planned Parenthood “saves money and saves lives” by the non-abortion health care it offers and “now it not the time to restrict women’s access to health care.”

And Rep. Gwen Moore of Wisconsin went as far as implying that it is better to have an abortion than make a child be forced to live “eating Ramen noodles” and “mayonnaise sandwiches.”

But Pence talked about the myriad of ways in which Planned Parenthood has been proven to exploit women.

“The headlines and years of investigations speak for themselves," he said. “In 2002, Planned Parenthood was found civilly liable in Arizona for failure to report statutory rape. In 2008 it violated reporting laws in Indiana and California. In 2009 it instructed a girl in Tennessee to lie about her age so she could get an abortion without her parents’ knowledge. Recently in California, Washington, New Jersey, and New York, Planned Parenthood clinics have been accused of fraudulent accounting or overbilling practices. And last week, undercover videos showed Planned Parenthood employees apparently willing to aid human sex traffickers by coaching them on how to falsify documents and secure secret abortions for their underage prostitutes.”

“As the father of two teenage daughters, there are not words strong enough to portray my contempt of this pattern of apparent fraud and abuse by Planned Parenthood,” he said.

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/02/17...ramen-noodles/

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“Planned Parenthood has provided health services to one in five American women,” Rep. Nita Lowey of New York said.

So Nita wants 4 out of 5 American women to help pay for the services received by just 1 out of 5. That makes about as much sense as asking the public to fund sky diving. You could argue that it is in the public interest to fund parachutes because they are accident prevention devices similar to birth control. Sometimes they fail, so the public should also fund the hospital and burial costs that result. But what is seldom mentioned is that these activities are avoidable.

Unless you are kidnapped and forced to sky dive, it is a choice. And unless you are raped, sex is also a choice. What has always puzzled me is the number of feminists and politicians who get away with being so condescending to women. To hear them talk, you would be convinced that the majority of women are too stupid to make informed decisions about their sex life; therefore, they cannot be held responsible for their own risky behavior.

I don’t believe women are that stupid. I think there are more people jumping out of planes without parachutes because they don’t know about gravity then there are adult women getting pregnant because they don’t know where babies come from. But I do believe that there are some women (and many men) who are willing to gamble on their future in exchange for instant gratification. Many fewer would be willing to do so if they had to pay the full price when they lose that gamble.

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I suppose there may be some people who’d rather die than eat Ramen. I just think they oughta be able to make that choice for themselves

“Better dead than poor” has on it the stink of eugenics.

Not having an unwanted pregnancy (i.e. using condoms or celebacy)is far better for an unwanted child than abortion.

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Look at it this way: You can take the money you use to fund Planned Parenthood and help fund meal programs for low-income families. Sounds like a win/win situation to me.

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Jill Stanek notes another jaw-dropper from Democrat Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee: “This is not about abortion, this is about saving lives.”

Can someone save this idiot from herself? I suggest duct tape. We should all hang our heads in shame that such stupidity is on display in a leadership role in DC. She doesn’t know that we didn’t put a man on Mars. She thinks the Super Bowl commercials are racially motivated and God knows what other idiotic things have come out of her mouth.

Why is she still being voted into office? It begs the question “which is more stupid-Sheila Jackson Lee or her constituents.”

Despite a lifetime of witnessing really stupid statements there are times I am shocked by the hardened heart of some.

Democrat Rep. Gwen Moore is such an example; Shelia Jackson is another.

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See also : http://www.redstate.com/jeromehudson...ded-abortions/

We went from a few dozen back alley abortions per year to 50 million abortions since Roe v Wade. Isn’t there a moral argument to be made here? Isn’t that genocide? Shouldn’t someone be asking why 50 million fetuses were aborted to save a few hundred women of which maybe a handful would have died?

Nah, too obvious. You are either for ALL abortions or against ALL abortions. There is no middle ground.

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We could probably slash the number of abortions dramatically if we framed the argument in terms of what America wants (safe, legal but rare) instead of pegging one absolute against the other absolute.

There were abortions even when it was illegal. If we could at least get the number down closer to what it was when it was illegal, it would be great progress. How can anyone argue that 50 million abortions is anything but evil?

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1 in 5 women have been helped by planned parenthood? I have 5 sisters, a mother, a mother in law, a wife, and 4 daughters and not one of them have ever been in a planned parenthood clinic. I think their stats are a bit skewed.

When I was in college, my wife and I were newly married with 6 kids (brady bunch, 3 & 3) so things were pretty lean sometimes. 4 packages of ramen, green onion, celery, carrot, maybe some left over corn or green beans, a can of tuna or spam (if we didn’t have any leftover meat) and three eggs stirred in. 6 satisfied kids to bed with a pretty small price tag for the parents.

When Ramen went on sale at about 20 for $1, we’d stock up (actually still do). Now I just eat them because it’s a quick and easy meal when it’s my turn to cook. And I love them with lots of soy.

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Since college, newly married, a baby and bills, to now using Ramen noodles because I love them – you can take them to art form. Do a little stir-fry on the side with onion, carrots, broccoli, celery. Dump the packet into a small bowl and add 1 Tlbs. cornstarch – a drop or two of sesame seed oil with more soy sauce, water and garlic. Dump in the cooked noodles and heat. Uses up those little bitty pieces of chicken, rare steak, or pork roast you’d normally toss.

Fifty million and counting…and our genius legislatures want to fund more. Genocide!

I’ve noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born.

~Ronald Reagan, quoted in New York Times, 22 September 1980

Couldn’t have said it better myself, Ronnie.


I think Dickens addressed this best in A Christmas Carol:

“…If he be like to die, he had better do it, and decrease the surplus population,” [said the Ghost of Christmas Present]

Scrooge hung his head to hear his own words quoted by the Spirit, and was overcome with penitence and grief.

“Man,” said the Ghost, “if man you be in heart, not adamant, forbear that wicked cant until you have discovered What the surplus is, and Where it is. Will you decide what men shall live, what men shall die? It may be, that in the sight of Heaven, you are more worthless and less fit to live than millions like this poor man’s child. Oh God! to hear the Insect on the leaf pronouncing on the too much life among his hungry brothers in the dust!”